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today i woke up and said to myself "let's typeset and bind @verycharismaticdragon's fic A Transmigrator and a Time Traveler" because i reread it yesterday and overnight i was consumed by a Vision where the chapters would start on recto pages and then on the verso there'd be a fullpage tarot illustration of the corresponding major arcana card. (dont ask me what will happen with ch21 because i Don't know.)

"this will be easy," i said. "i've seen like three different people doing mxtx major arcana illustrations. i bet if i combine all of those and use only the scum villain ones i can cover all the chapters."

nope, i've found *checks notes* FOUR usable scum villain tarot illustrations. and also they aren't really related to the chapters which anyone could have predicted but which i feel weird about. (although if you haven't checked out @sumeriasmith's mxtx tarot project yet YOU HAVE TO. i am primarily an oil painter so watercolor is like black magic to me i dont understand how they do any of this but im soooo fucking hype for them to finish binghe as the emperor)

"ugh," i said. "fine. i will find a generic tarot major arcana svg set in a nice style, because i hate the og rider-waite illustrations. there has to be a ton of them" and unfortunately yes there ARE but ALL OF THEM ARE MADE BY DESIGNERS WITH BAD TASTE. why is the tower just a pile of crystals or a hand or some shit. why did you spell chariot as "charriot" (and this was the least objectionable one i found!)

i also discovered:

  • the unicode codepoints for the tarot major arcana (h/t @twocubes) except theyre from tarot noveau and thus useless to me
  • hanafuda cards (also irrelevant, but very pretty) (inb4 "you're such a weeb" ...there is a half-finished painting of itachi from naruto in my garage right now. of COURSE i'm a weeb.)
  • unicode codepoint tarot deck (i wont lie to you, i'm tempted, but it seems thematically inappropriate for scum villain unless i incorporate it into my own tarot card illustrations which i am trying to NOT do here)

and finally ordered the ikea tarot deck off etsy (after years of vacillation) (this is the first tarot deck i have ever purchased because i don't "believe in" tarot or w/e but the concept of ikea tarot is very VERY funny to me). all in all, not a hugely productive afternoon :/ perhaps i will return to the tarot issue later and start doing some actual typesetting now?

OH ALSO does anyone have Body Text Font Opinions or should i just flip a coin to decide between alegreya and baskerville again. (one benefit of alegreya is that i already edited the font files to add ǎǐǒǔ characters...)

okay . okay okay okay i found some minimalist tarot decks i don't COMPLETELY hate and im gonna take them as inspiration, because as an exercise in suffering (?) i am going to try to do all of my tarot illustrations in tikz. im not very good at tikz but fuck it we ball

on the plus side the pgfornament package is saving my ass here and it even includes a library of traditional han chinese motifs!!! shoutout to alain matthes, liantze lim, and chennan zhang for saving my ass

updates to follow as i face the consequences of my hubris

I'm watching the saga unfold with both fascination and fear 👀 (i know nothing about typesetting)

I dont like how close this looks so time for some Binghe-ganda! Thankfully what I've been doing for ages anyway ^^

Now, where to start... oh, right, some of you may be wondering: what the hell is a Heavenly Demon? And, well! That's only the most special type of demon there is, in Luo Binghe's world! Unlike normal demons, heavenly demons trace their origins to fallen and corrupted gods. This gives them a bunch of unique abilities, including can-fix-a-broken-bone-in-seconds healing and using their blood as a GPS tracker and/or torture device if they make someone ingest it. Among just general natural talent. Because of how damn OP they are, they became a de-facto imperial bloodline of the Demon Realm... though by the time Luo Binghe's story takes place, no one had been on that throne for a while, as his Heavenly Demon dad happened to get himself into a Situation (imprisoned under a mountain by human cultivators).

Speaking of human cultivators! For those not in c-fandoms, cultivators are ppl cultivating their internal energy/qi/chi to have magic-like abilities. How magic-like those are depends on the genre and particular work; the important thing is, internal energy powers both spell-like stuff (like summoning fire or turning tree leaves into weapons) and general martial arts stuff (moving fast punching hard cleaving mountains with your sword etc). And Luo Binghe's mom happened to be a very gifted cultivator! Meaning that in addition to OP demonic abilities he inherited from his dad, he can also cultivate like a human, and has a great natural talent for it as well! Making him the best of both worlds in terms of power.

Does he sound like a Mary Sue yet?.. Well, he should!

You see, Scum Villain's Self-Saving System, the webnovel Luo Binghe comes from, is a transmigration-into-a-book story. Meaning, the main character of SVSSS is a guy from the modern world who woke up in the world of the book he read. The book in question? A male power fantasy about a downtrodden orphan who discovered his secret powers, took bloody revenge on everyone who wronged him, and got allllllll the girls.

Yep, Luo Binghe is the protagonist of that book. That's why he has the most special boy heritage ever... and a tragic backstory. You see, not only was his dad imprisoned (without ever knowing of Luo Binghe's existence and also led to believe it was Luo Binghe's mom who betrayed him...), Binghe's biological mom also died in childbirth while fleeing the person who set his dad up. And then his adoptive mom died too. And then he managed to get accepted into a cultivation sect (like a school for cultivators) only to be apprenticed under a child abuser who developed an especial grudge against him. So basically, tragic as hell childhood, then a metamorphosis/power up arc, then revenge (and wife collecting).

Of course... this is only a story of Luo Binghe from the original book. In SVSSS, one day, his cruel shifu inexplicably changed his mind about him. (Yep, the MC of SVSSS had woken up in the body of the protagonist's evil shifu. Hence the 'scum villain' in the novel's title.) And started helping him. And protected him at a great cost to himself...................

Long story short, SVSSS Luo Binghe's greatest life ambition is becoming a househusband (he cooks! he cleans! he needs kissies to live!). Unfortunately, the narrative has other plans for him. (Luo Binghe, sitting on his throne in the Demon Realm, aura of darkness around him: "How do you make your intentions clear to a ~special someone~?.." His court of demons: 👹?👹??👹?👹?? ?) (dont worry though, he gets his guy. this is a BL webnovel they get married and all.)

Now, the last bit of propaganda: a picture of a half-demon in his natural habitat (his husband's lap)

Look at he. Could u vote against him be honest

So, tl;dr: 🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈 a vote for Luo Binghe is a vote for half-demon malewives everywhere!!! 🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈

(and also for chronically online fans who end up marrying blorbo from their books. Luo Binghe's husband would vote for him in an internet poll and he would not be normal about it.)

no that I want to rain on anyone's parade but if we're compiling facts and putting them in the wiki, we should at least keep it faithful to what the book actually says

Chapter 1, first paragraph

It's not like the 600+ thing came out of nowhere though. It's in the succubus extra, and the exact number is 613.

Ofc, it could be an exaggeration on SQQ's part, but the number feels a bit too specific. Like, if Bing-ge had like 90+ wives, why would SQQ jump all the way to 613 for his exaggeration?..

Though I do have an idea for a watsonian explanation here: I think we have to ask ourselves what does 'wife' even mean in each context. Is it wife, as in a woman LBG officially married, or is it waifu, as in any pretty woman in his orbit? Like, is the word harem used to describe a structure similar to actual historical harem, or is it used in the same way as it would be when talking about 'harem anime' - where it would signify all characters attracted to the protagonist regardless of marital status? Now, I unfortunately don't know enough Chinese (esp modern internet slang chinese) to check the original text for this, but it could explain the fluctuating number without going for some boring explanation like 'mxtx deadass forgot'.

@cum-villain your series on my dash (and not from you)

I'm looking over my 7s translation, and I'll look over my unofficial translation in a second, but I can't find the "613 wives" mentioned anywhere here. Shen Qingqiu certainly mentions many wives, but he never says a specific number.

He does mention the difference between women Luo Bingge fucks, and the wives in the harem. Wives, specifically, are a part of the harem. Those like Madam Meiyin explicitly don't count as his wives. From my 7s translation, pages 65-66.

It's a little after the bit you mention:

"I have no other skills, but at the very least my meager divinations and fortune-telling on the matter of love have always been accurate," she said. "Which of these immortal masters is willing to let me read him?" Shen Qingqiu asked to his side, "Shidi, are you interested?" "I am not!" Liu Qingge said stiffly. Shen Qingqiu shrugged. "Since he's not interested, it will have to be me." Indeed, in accordance with the canon of the original work, Madam Meiyin's fortunes and divinations regarding predestined love and foretellings pertaining to marriage were one hundred-percent accurate. If she said Luo Binghe would have six-hundred and thirteen wives, there was no question that he would have more than six-hundred and twelve. If she said that one of his wives liked the cow- [beep-] girl position, then the wife in question definitely wouldn't enjoy doggy- [beep-] style!

I don't see how that says the amount of wives he had, though? I mean, a case can be made for it, but given the context I believe it's more an example of how specific Madam Meiyin's predictions are. Not a factoid, hyperbole.

As I said

Ofc, it could be an exaggeration on SQQ's part, but the number feels a bit too specific. Like, if Bing-ge had like 90+ wives, why would SQQ jump all the way to 613 for his exaggeration?..

To explain more wordily, if Bing-ge's harem actually numbered anywhere in triple digits, then 613 would feel like a plausible joking hyperbole. If it was in double digits though, it feels like an unnatural increase in magnitude.

Plus, spoken as a person who carefully counted the number or men plausibly in love with SQQ several times for a freaking false option in a tumblr poll, I kinda think SY is just the type of fan to have an exact number of Bing-ge's wives (or 'wives') memorized so he could meme on it correctly.

But, tbh, the only thing I said in the first reblog was that the 600+ thing didn't come completely out of nowhere. The rest was a speculation on how the conflicting info could fit together without throwing out either bit. It's kinda like the situation with "20-days binge read start to finish" vs "has been following the story for years" for SY reading PIDW. Though for that one I was able to dig into the original text and find that it was never said that the 20-days binge was of the whole complete novel, so those two aren't actually conflicting at all. I mean, if the only number we had for Bing-ge's harem was from this bit in the succubus extra, it would be simply taken as canon, don't you think? And the only reason we are debating it is because there's a conflicting number elsewhere. Ultimately, in cases like this, you can either decide to pick an option (ie "613 is canon because it was written later" or "double digits is canon because 613 sounds like a joking hyperbole"), or try to find a way they could both be true. I was suggesting the possibility for the second type of solution.

no that I want to rain on anyone's parade but if we're compiling facts and putting them in the wiki, we should at least keep it faithful to what the book actually says

Chapter 1, first paragraph

It's not like the 600+ thing came out of nowhere though. It's in the succubus extra, and the exact number is 613.

Ofc, it could be an exaggeration on SQQ's part, but the number feels a bit too specific. Like, if Bing-ge had like 90+ wives, why would SQQ jump all the way to 613 for his exaggeration?..

Though I do have an idea for a watsonian explanation here: I think we have to ask ourselves what does 'wife' even mean in each context. Is it wife, as in a woman LBG officially married, or is it waifu, as in any pretty woman in his orbit? Like, is the word harem used to describe a structure similar to actual historical harem, or is it used in the same way as it would be when talking about 'harem anime' - where it would signify all characters attracted to the protagonist regardless of marital status? Now, I unfortunately don't know enough Chinese (esp modern internet slang chinese) to check the original text for this, but it could explain the fluctuating number without going for some boring explanation like 'mxtx deadass forgot'.

@cum-villain your series on my dash (and not from you)

I'm looking over my 7s translation, and I'll look over my unofficial translation in a second, but I can't find the "613 wives" mentioned anywhere here. Shen Qingqiu certainly mentions many wives, but he never says a specific number.

He does mention the difference between women Luo Bingge fucks, and the wives in the harem. Wives, specifically, are a part of the harem. Those like Madam Meiyin explicitly don't count as his wives. From my 7s translation, pages 65-66.

It's a little after the bit you mention:

"I have no other skills, but at the very least my meager divinations and fortune-telling on the matter of love have always been accurate," she said. "Which of these immortal masters is willing to let me read him?" Shen Qingqiu asked to his side, "Shidi, are you interested?" "I am not!" Liu Qingge said stiffly. Shen Qingqiu shrugged. "Since he's not interested, it will have to be me." Indeed, in accordance with the canon of the original work, Madam Meiyin's fortunes and divinations regarding predestined love and foretellings pertaining to marriage were one hundred-percent accurate. If she said Luo Binghe would have six-hundred and thirteen wives, there was no question that he would have more than six-hundred and twelve. If she said that one of his wives liked the cow- [beep-] girl position, then the wife in question definitely wouldn't enjoy doggy- [beep-] style!

no that I want to rain on anyone's parade but if we're compiling facts and putting them in the wiki, we should at least keep it faithful to what the book actually says

Chapter 1, first paragraph

It's not like the 600+ thing came out of nowhere though. It's in the succubus extra, and the exact number is 613.

Ofc, it could be an exaggeration on SQQ's part, but the number feels a bit too specific. Like, if Bing-ge had like 90+ wives, why would SQQ jump all the way to 613 for his exaggeration?..

Though I do have an idea for a watsonian explanation here: I think we have to ask ourselves what does 'wife' even mean in each context. Is it wife, as in a woman LBG officially married, or is it waifu, as in any pretty woman in his orbit? Like, is the word harem used to describe a structure similar to actual historical harem, or is it used in the same way as it would be when talking about 'harem anime' - where it would signify all characters attracted to the protagonist regardless of marital status? Now, I unfortunately don't know enough Chinese (esp modern internet slang chinese) to check the original text for this, but it could explain the fluctuating number without going for some boring explanation like 'mxtx deadass forgot'.

Alcatraz:

  • Alcatraz is talented at breaking things. Whether this be the sidewalk, chickens, or the fourth wall, Alcatraz breaks them all. He frequently begins chapters with non-sequiters such as tricking the reader into mailing him all the mac and cheese in their house, or breaks the tension of a scene to explain that writers are terrible people for delaying the plot.

Astrid:

  • Astrid does a few 4th wall breaks over the course of the game, but the most memorable (and honestly super touching) one was when the player character dies for the first time - and she breaks the fourth wall to console you, the player, and tell you that it's not the end.

She is sooooooo special to me for real!!!

yk what i hate though. is when i find a meme and im like THIS IS SO [cool intimidating mutual i never talk to] I SHOULD SEND IT TO THEM but then i remember ive never talked to them ever and so i cant just like give them a meme out of the blue and so the meme just withers and rots in my camera roll 😔

Reblog if a mutual who's never spoken to you can randomly send you memes that made them think of you.

Ever went through all the trouble of getting your blorbo from danmei into a tournament, only to have them eliminated in the first round because the poll didn't reach enough danmei fans? Well, this blog aims to help with that!

If you have a poll where at least one of the options is: a character from a danmei novel; a CP or any other relationship from a danmei novel; a danmei novel or an adaptation of one - drop the link in my askbox or in this post's replies, and I'll reblog it.

Similarly, if you find a tournament which would be just perfect for one of the things mentioned above, and its submissions are still open, send it my way, and don't forget to mention the candidate you are suggesting! And if submissions are closed, but you personally submitted a danmei something, you can also let me know & I'll keep an eye on that tournament.

Then, happy voting 🫶

Tag list under keep reading here!

I did the thing!

And part 2 of propaganda: theme!

First of all, the whole reason Rika (the one w red hair) started a unit was because she saw an ad from a tropical island resort looking to hire an in-house DJ unit. So she was like, I wanna go to a tropical island, let's get this job! despite not having any experience with DJing 😂

So yeah the whole reason Merm4id got started was for a hot girl summer. And that's why they are so summer themed. Soooo many of their stage costumes are based on swimsuits like this is their initial set:

and this is the first D4fes (a story spanning multiple in-game events that serves as a sort of milestone for the plot) set:

and there are many others but im hitting the image limit. so here's a hot girl summer looking Dalia to tell u to vote Merm4id

You know what, ganda for Merm4id on main, let's go!

Part 1: music!

These are just some of my fav originals of theirs! They also have lots of covers but this is already pretty long 😅

And this ⬇️ is their collab with the j-rock unit from the same franchise, Rondo (my beloveds 🥰). Yes their VAs do lives in character!

Soooooo please vote my gorls pretty please 🥺👉👈

Okay damn this is a tough opponent but I'll ganda anyway.

The thing about Shen Jiu's spitefulness is that it has no bottom line. He would - and did - have beef with a literal pre-teen child, to the point of trying to murder said child.

And for such petty reasons... Like, okay, so Shen Jiu's childhood was really shitty. A slave bought by a sadist kind of shitty. And the injuries he received during that time impaired his cultivation (for ppl not in chinese fandoms, kinda like magical abilities, but tied to martial arts abilities too). And a person he trusted most abandoned him there (not really, but SJ doesn't know that, and the person doesn't explain himself because of guilt, it's all wonderfully disfunctional). Now, if that made SJ kill all rich ppl forever, I would not consider him a spiteful person in the slightest. But.

The kid he's beefing with? Literally an orphan (kinda twice over as his adoptive mom also died) with nothing to his name. Pretty similar to SJ himself... except that he happened to join the Sect (martial arts school) at perfect age to foster his innate talent, unlike SJ whose talents were ruined, and he had an adoptive mom who loved him, unlike SJ who never had family and was abandoned by the person he considered one.

And SJ was like: I want that innocent child obliterated.

So he took the kid on as a disciple and then did his level best to get him killed. Including giving him incorrect cultivation manual that would make any normal person die horribly, sending him to fight a hundred-years-old demon one on one without a sword, and throwing him into an interdimensional rift filled with monsters when given half an excuse.

Unfortunately for SJ, the kid in question was a literal protagonist of their world. And came back alive and more powerful and aiming for revenge.

But did that make SJ realize he'd done fucked up? Oh, no. When he - already imprisoned after the thorough destruction of his entire life and career - was asked if he saw that what happened was a result of his actions, he was like: actually, given the second chance, I would do it again. Not only that, but I would try to murder the kid harder.

Spiteful til the end.

And this is only his most extreme case of his spitefulness! But it's late so just: Shen Jiu. He deserves the W so much--

Haunting the Narrative Round 1

Haunting the narrative means that the character’s absence heavily impacts the plot. They’re not present when their influence is most strongly felt, whether they’re alive or dead!

Shen Jiu / Original Shen Qingqiu has won!

🥳🥳🥳 For once, SJ threw hands with a literal child and won

Haunting the Narrative Round 1

Haunting the narrative means that the character’s absence heavily impacts the plot. They’re not present when their influence is most strongly felt, whether they’re alive or dead!

Once again begging on my knees vote Shen Jiu...

Also you know what! The "Scum Villain" in the title literally refers to SJ. Yes despite him being Mr.Not Appearing In This Book. His influence! His reach!

(Yes, technically it refers to the role Shen Yuan is taking, but we all know Shen Yuan was never really the scum villain. He himself was literally the only person who ever thought that. "Scum Villain" is really SJ's thing first and most!)

Haunting the Narrative Round 1

Haunting the narrative means that the character’s absence heavily impacts the plot. They’re not present when their influence is most strongly felt, whether they’re alive or dead!

Let's goooooo!

Since I did a write up on all the ways SJ haunts the narrative in my submission, I'll just be lightly editing that.

So! SVSSS is a transmigration/isekai story, about a guy who dies and wakes up in the novel he read - in the body of a villain. The villain in question is exactly Shen Jiu I'm submitting! (His honorary/style name is Shen Qingqiu, but since our transmigrator is using it for himself during the entire novel, we usually refer to the original villain by his old name, Shen Jiu.)

Now, as the story follows the transmigrator, Shen Jiu never actually appears as a character in the main text. But his actions - and his ending - haunt the transmigrator all throughout the story. 

To start with, the reason Shen Jiu is a villain in the "original novel" is that he was the novel's protagonist's shifu (teacher/master in martial arts) when the latter was a teen, and abused him during that time. Culminating in throwing him off a cliff into a dimensional rift when given the opportunity. The protagonist, being the protagonist, survived that, and returned to take revenge - destroying his old teacher's reputation, imprisoning him, and then horrifically torturing him.

So the first way Shen Jiu haunts the narrative is that the spectre of his ending is something our transmigrator lives in fear of for 2/3rds of the novel (until he realizes that his presence ultimately changed the protagonist). And the consequences of that fear - of everything the transmigrator did under the assumption that a single mistake would get him tortured - persist even longer. (example: at one point, the transmigrator made a spare body his soul would go to if he died - and promptly severely traumatized the protagonist by dying in his arms, all while assured that his death was what the protagonist wanted.)

The second way Shen Jiu haunts the narrative is that the transmigrator wakes up several years AFTER the protagonist became Shen Qingqiu's disciple - meaning that there are already several years of abuse just. sitting there between them. And while the transmigrator course-corrects as fast as he can (like curbing the bullying, and giving the kid a place to stay that isn't the woodshed), he is still very aware that from the protagonist's perspective, their relationship started with the teacher pouring a cup of tea onto the child's head. And he can't even explain that it wasn't really him who did it - not just because outing himself as an impostor is a risk, but also because...

(and this is the third way Shen Jiu haunts the narrative)...the transmigrator is actively forced into repeating Shen Jiu's actions by The System - the entity that brought him into the world of the novel to begin with. Which continuously threatens him with death if he fails to comply and act out his role. So if Shen Jiu would 'not help the protagonist, but just stand there and laugh, or otherwise join in on beating him', then stopping other disciples from bullying the protagonist puts the transmigrator halfway into the grave. If Shen Jiu was introverted and didn't like crowded places, then the transmigrator can't go out into town to have fun. If Shen Jiu sent a 15-year-old protagonist to fight a hundred-years-old demon one-on-one, then the transmigrator has to do the same. And if Shen Jiu pushed the protagonist into a dimensional rift filled with monsters......

So you can see how this is not helping our transmigrator feel like he can avoid torture dismemberment and death. He is carrying the original villain's baggage of early-years abuse despite having fuck-nothing to do with it, AND he is forced into repeating the worst of the original villain's offenses - so how could he be different from that villain in the protagonist's eyes?.. 

In other words, the transmigrator's knowledge of Shen Jiu's fate influences his actions (and just... understanding of the situation) almost all throughout the story. And by the time he accepts that the protagonist doesn't see him as a scum villain, the choices he made under that assumption have already traumatized the protagonist in new fun&interesting ways.

So Shen Jiu feels like a character who is very much present in the story - despite the story's premise hanging on him being replaced by someone else in the very beginning.

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@kn-rainbowblood: #tell me what your favorite insane sqq moment is please!!!!!

I have received my one(1) enabling question therefore I'm inflicting this on everyone: my absolute favorite 'good lord this man is wild' SQQ moment.

Context: SQQ, while running about in the plant body, learns that rumor has it Luo Binghe attempted to sexually assault him at the Immortal Alliance Conference, and allegedly that's why they had a falling out.

He's understandably shocked by this assumption, but among his other thoughts is... this... (replaced og text's [beep] censoring with * censoring for conciseness; italics original, emphasis mine)

The key point was that the r*pe actually wasn't a successful r*pe. This is way too fucking off. How could that be Luo Binghe? If he wanted to r*pe someone, they would obediently spread their legs themselves, okay?!

Like, reminding you that the context is that he's talking about (a rumor of) LBH making an attempt on him.

Actually think I gotta mention that I remember this one from the old TL - word for word because it sacked me in the face - and it was even more. uh. adjective. there the line went:

If Luo Binghe wanted to r*pe someone, who wouldn't obediently spread their legs?

And like. Good lord. This thought was not examined whatsoever. SQQ claimed to be straight after this---

......

Anyway I couldn't stick this into the poll, right.

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Sexual themes

okay so since nobody else jumped to make this, here we go

(there's a 'see results' option for those who did read svsss at the end of the poll btw!)

(also i ask humbly to reblog if this poll caught your fancy. because most of my followers are from danmei fandoms and likely have read svsss)

So, the poll is finally over — and it is time to reveal The Truth! (Well, eight truths and one lie, to be more precise.) Let’s get to it!

9th place: “having extremely bad sex was instrumental for saving the world” TRUE

We are starting with the least voted for option, that nevertheless bamboozled 208 people (3.3% of voters). Yup, sorry to everyone who thought a gay romance novel couldn’t possibly have bad sex. We console ourselves with the fact that it was bad for thematic, plot, and character reasons.

8th place: “straight harem novel protagonist experienced a gay awakening” TRUE

First, let me apologize to everyone for my apparently ambiguous grammar. It was meant as “the protagonist of a straight harem novel”, not “a straight protagonist of a harem novel”.

Anyway, this happened! In fact, you could say this happened twice!

You see, Scum Villain is a story of a transmigrator — a guy who died and woke up in another world. More specifically, in the world of a straight harem novel he read, in the body of a villain, Shen Qingqiu. At the time our transmigrator MC entered the world, though, the protagonist of said straight harem novel was still in his teens. So not yet a murderous antihero, and not yet a harem master, but an orphaned child who up to then had a very difficult life. And encountering a man who was kind to him, believed in him, and even protected him at the cost to himself… the protagonist of a straight harem novel fell hard.

Yup, “straight harem novel protagonist” actually refers to the male lead of Scum Villain, Luo Binghe. And, despite what 239 of our voters (3.8%) thought, he did have a gay awakening — this is basically the premise of the novel!

But wait, there’s more. In one of the extra chapters, the original version of Luo Binghe ends up in the world where our transmigrator has changed things, and accidentally swaps places with our Binghe. To the OG’s shock, the villain he tortured and killed over a hundred years ago is not only alive and kicking in this world, but is… nice to him? ?? ????? ??

…So, after a couple of days it takes Shen Qingqiu to figure out that it’s not his Binghe being moody because he got injured but a whole wrong guy, the OG straight harem novel protagonist is also not what he used to be. And beseeching this kind version of his villain to come with him.

So yeah. This happened twice.

7th place: “character who thinks ‘beat them up 3 times a day’ is flirting got his man” TRUE

Honestly, this was one of the most entertaining options to watch — both in how its placement in the poll changed, and the chaos it somehow wrought among actual Scum Villain fans in the notes.

Besties… I can’t believe you forgot Mobei-jun’s iconic “love advice”. I can’t believe you thought this was about Liu Qingge. (Also I’m pretty sure someone thought this was about Binghe and said they’ll fight me if I claim this option is true. They get a free pass however because I think being ready to rip throats for Binghe is about the sexiest quality a Scum Villain fan can have.)

Anyway — yeah, this happened. Mobei-jun and Shang Qinghua, a.k.a. MoShang, are a canon side couple. 

Sorry to the 287 of our voters (4.6%) who were like ‘i hope the fuck not?!’. In Mobei-jun’s defense, he is a demon born and raised, and that’s a ~Demon Culture Thing~. Also, more than a few things happened between him saying that with his full chest and riding into the sunset with his love interest. (Well, the love interest was riding; Mobei was pulling the cart.) And he had an unfair advantage of being his love interest’s literal ideal man… but more on this later.

6th place: “character played hot potato with his own half-naked corpse” TRUE

This option has suddenly pulled ahead of its closest competitor at around 4500 votes, but for what? Despite what 295 of voters (4.7%) thought, this also happened in Scum Villain. Sometimes you (a transmigrator) set up a spare body for yourself because you think the protagonist is going to kill you. And then you die (not via getting murdered). And then you come back to life in a new body. And find out that the protagonist has apparently been keeping your old — dead — body in perfect condition for 5 years in hopes of reviving you. And then during a comedy-of-errors-esque sequence of events you end up catching your own dead body, the clothes on which have come undone. And you understandably freak out and toss it to someone else. as if it was a hot potato.

5th place: “3 different demons made one character drink their blood on 5 separate occasions” TRUE

So first, I guess, I need to explain what’s the deal with the demon blood. A particular subset of demons, called heavenly demons, have a unique ability to manipulate their blood, even when it’s outside their bodies. And, importantly, inside someone else’s. This can be used to track the person down, to hurt them, to heal them… (And for sex, actually, but somebody has neglected to mention this to our half-demon ML.)

Anyway, there are three heavenly demons around, and all had made Shen Qingqiu drink their blood once or twice. No, the blood doesn’t have an expiration date — but since he happened to change bodies a couple of times… 

So, to the 319 people (5.1%) who thought the blood drinking was either too weird or too normal to be true: nope, our MC is the world champion in demon blood chugging.

4th place: “character's dad is a fan of a famous porn ballad starring his son and son-in-law” TRUE

Despite the fervent hopes of 5.6% of voters (351 of them!), this one is also true.

You see, the main couple’s unhinged behaviors have captivated certain creative minds, and so there’s a ballad about them. That is very popular. And very horny. In fact it’s deadass explicit RPF.

And it just so happens that Luo Binghe’s absentee demon father (in his defense, he was imprisoned under the mountain) (not to defend him too much though, once he comes back he’s a total jerk to his son), Tianlang-jun, is a huge aficionado of human culture. Books, plays, songs, you name it. And he has an especial fondness for raunchy romances. You know, exactly like a porny ballad that just so happens to be about his son and his son’s crush.

Which is how our MC ends up in a situation where his uh-it’s-complicated’s dad asks him “have you slept with my son?” and he’s like “what? no” and the dad just starts humming a song that’s about them fucking. His life is so difficult (schadenfreude). 

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Whew, so far so good, right? We only have the top 3 left, and the false option hasn't come up yet! And yeah, I gotta say, for a book as wild as SVSSS, the fact that six options were correctly identified as more likely to have happened than the fake one is already big. Good job!

Though, I regret to tell you, that’s where our lucky streak ends. So, allow me to present…

3rd place: “a succubus fortune teller told MC at least 5 men are in love with him” FALSE

Wait, you might say, but haven’t you defended this option before? I have, but only from the accusation that the number in it is somehow false. Excuse you, I have counted the men several times to be sure!.. that the number adhered to the popular fanon.

The story behind this option is that I thought long and hard to come up with something wild enough to match the energy of the book. In the end, I used something that happened in canon as base, spiced it up with something from fanon readings, and mashed it together in a way that (I thought) would be obvious to any reader as blatantly false — but could still snag a few unsuspecting dash osmosis in-laws. What I learned was that the SVSSS fandom didn’t read the extras enough times.

Okay, so What Is The Truth!

The truth is: a succubus fortune teller made a divination about MC’s destined partner (not who was in love with him, but rather who he had a red string of fate with), and accurately described the ML to him… without once mentioning that he was a man. (Making her prediction virtually useless to Shen Qingqiu, who at the time ID'd firmly as a straight guy and didn’t even consider this possibility... and also thought that Luo Binghe was the most heterosexual man ever, in view of the oversized harem from the original work.)

So, as you can see, the entire second half of this option was just me bullshitting. If you are one of the 387 voters (6.2%) who caught this — kudos to you!

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This out of the way… time to crown the victors of our ‘he couldn’t Possibly have said that’ tournament.

Without further ado, I present to you: Shang Qinghua and Shen Qingqiu, our unparalleled transmigrator duo!

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2nd place goes to Shen Qingqiu, our beloved main character, with the option “MC told ML that if he was his mom, he would never abort him” (TRUE)

I would love to say it makes sense in context. And, well, it makes some sense in context. But also there are reasons Shen Qingqiu won a “character we most want to study like a bug” tournament against everyone else from all three of the author’s novels a while back, and this line was one of them. (Not even the wildest thing on his resume, tbt, but my favorite weirdo moment of his wasn’t a good fit for the poll.) 

Okay, so the context for this one. At a certain point in the story, the male lead, Luo Binghe, learned that his birth mother had apparently taken the poison that would kill her unborn child (him) — in exchange for her own freedom. He already had abandonment issues up to his ears, and this was yet another thing to chip at his already shaky mental state. Eventually, after A Few More Things piled up, he had a mental breakdown of, ah, potentially world-ending proportions — and that was what it took for Shen Qingqiu to realize how miserable Luo Binghe had been the whole time, and how deeply he was hurt by Shen Qingqiu’s own actions over the course of the novel. So Shen Qingqiu resolved to (finally) take steps to show Luo Binghe that he is loved and wanted. Among other things (yes this is where our least voted option happened too), he did his best to convince Luo Binghe that his birth mother actually wanted him — that she wasn’t trying to abort him, but only took that poison to escape, and must’ve drawn all of its effects into her own body to prevent it from harming her child.

It’s only that… our most special guy decided to start that statement with: “If *I* were her…”

Anyway, as many as 478 of our voters (7.6%) unfortunately didn't believe he could have possibly said that.

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And finally, the 1st place — continuously since as early as 900 votes! — goes to Shang Qinghua with, “character told his love interest to call him ‘daddy’. not for kinky reasons” (TRUE)

All hail the author-god!

Oh, yeah, to explain: Shang Qinghua, a.k.a. Airplane Shooting Towards the Sky, is the second transmigrator — that our MC susses out at about 1/3rd of the story. When confronted, it turns out that he is not just another reader, but in fact the author, stuck in the world of his own novel.

For this reason, he sometimes refers to other characters as his ‘children’ — usually in his head or when talking to his fellow transmigrator.

But then at one point, when he is venting his frustration with a certain demon’s behavior (see 7th place option) to said demon… who also happens to be his most beloved ‘ideal man’ OC… he, among other things, snaps: “I’m your dad! Call me daddy!”

…Meaning, ofc, something like ‘I created you!’ So, yeah — not for kinky reasons. just for totally normal author-god reasons. 

With this, Airplane-bro has swayed 543 voters (8.7%) from the right path! Put it on his list of crimes next to child endangerment.

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Soooo… this is it! This has been a blast. I loved seeing everyone’s responses! Especially non-readers trying to logic out the unlogicable. I love you guys. Read Scum Villain 🫶

okay so since nobody else jumped to make this, here we go

(there's a 'see results' option for those who did read svsss at the end of the poll btw!)

(also i ask humbly to reblog if this poll caught your fancy. because most of my followers are from danmei fandoms and likely have read svsss)

We are alllllmost there!

Yeah, I'll be making ~a dramatic reveal~ of what's true and what's false once the poll concludes. I already drafted most of it & will just need to put the final numbers in. Since the poll ends at... 14:something utc+0 time zone, I'll aim at having that reveal post up at 15:00 (same one). So I find that now that tumblr is showing hours and minutes it seems the poll ends at smth like 15:17 utc+0 (unless its hiding more minutes somewhere???), so the reveal is going to be at ~15:30 instead.

Soon!