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Isaac would be so mad if he learns this.

He would be like :

Oh really!? You wouldn't have let me face off against the alpha jerks, but then you go and fight alone against something that is called "The Beast"!?"

Come to think of it, he would be mad about quite a lot of things. Like the fact that Scott died for 15 minutes and nobody seemed to care. Including Scott himself. Or the fact that Scott's murderer was allowed to lurk around...

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On Wasted Potential

(The return of the early morning meta post before work.)

It’s been hard to put into words what is so odd about fandom’s reaction to Stiles and Scott and the concept of being a werewolf in Teen Wolf, but a recent comment I saw mentioned something that maybe puts things into better perspective.

The comment boiled down to the idea that being a werewolf and having powers was wasted on Scott. I don’t recall having seen comments like that before, but it makes sense if people are looking at it in that way. He’s wasting his powers, he’s not using them to their full potential and therefore he’s not a good werewolf.

The thing that clicked for me with that comment is that people are treating Scott’s werewolf powers the same way Stiles did in early Season 1: with excitement, like it’s something cool that should be used always to solve every problem, including using it to murder people (but only the Right people, of course).

That in itself isn’t too weird to me: we see the same kind of suspension of disbelief in all sorts of media, especially those involving kids or teenagers. If you give a kid a sword in order to go on a question (Percy Jackson, for example), it’s not a bad thing, it’s part of the story. You obviously wouldn’t give an actual 11-year old a weapon, because they could hurt themselves or someone else, but for the sake of the story? Hell yeah, go around waving that thing, no problem.

Teenager has superpowers that could very easily be used to do bad things if so inclined? Yeah, that sounds about right, as long as an adult figure reminds them that they need to be responsible with their newfound abilities. (Uncle Ben’s only line in any Spiderman project comes to mind, obviously.) There is a lack of weight behind the statement, though, until something bad happens and our teenage hero realizes they have a real responsibility to be good or save lives or whatever, but the real consequences of those powers are never really touched on unless it’s a specific plot beat.

Teen Wolf doesn’t do that. 

From the very beginning, the bite is framed like a horror movie. A kid is attacked in the woods in the middle of the night by a monster and he’s left to walk home alone in the dark. He tells his best friend about it the next day and the very real, very terrifying attack is treated like a joke. (And in his defense, Stiles didn’t know, so I don’t actually hold it against him too much at this point.)

He starts experiencing weird changes in his body, hearing and seeing things he’s not used to, and while some are benefits – no asthma is a plus – he’s clearly shown to be unnerved by it. He snaps at Jackson and spills almost everything because he’s scared, and that’s completely reasonable. Scott doesn’t get a cool little montage set to catchy music where he gets to practice his Cool New Abilities in his room while his mom calls out from another room asking if he’s okay. He’s immediately thrust into a situation where he is being manipulated by the Alpha, thrust into a world he doesn’t fully understand, and is intimidated and threatened by the only other werewolf around.

Derek calls the bite a gift, and I partially blame that scene for fandom’s idea of it, but you wouldn’t have to change much to make Scott’s werewolf origins into a full-blown horror series. He’s been given a weapon he can’t control, that he knows he needs to control, while there’s an active threat of death and violence hanging over his head. The Sheriff gets injured peripherally to what’s happening to him, and Stiles loses it and hurts him because in his teenage brain that’s all he can do, and fandom thinks Scott’s in the wrong? He’s living a nightmare and all people can focus on is the fact that he’s not following the trope, so obviously having these powers is wasted on him.

Even in later seasons, fandom holds Scott’s reluctance to embrace his powers to the fullest against him. He doesn’t want to be a killing machine, he never wanted the powers in the first place, and even if he had been asked I don’t think Scott would have agreed. He was fine being normal, and all he’s gotten since the bite is death and violence and threats against the people he loves. Peter gave a teenager a gun and set people after him, and fandom is angry that the teenager isn’t going full John Wick on his enemies so it’s a waste.

Teen Wolf’s writing isn’t always the best, but it does a good job of flipping tropes around and exploring interesting concepts. Scott’s story isn’t a hero origin story: it’s a horror story where the victim becomes a hero in the end without losing his humanity. And fandom hates the idea of it, because fandom has been conditioned to believe a hero is only ever good if they embrace violence to the fullest.

Scott’s pov of the world reminds me so much of Smallville’s Clark Kent, they don’t want to kill, they refuse to do it. 

Scott is good, is truly good, but in that path, there are people who are not. 

To me, keeping your hands clean by refusing to kill someone who’s hurting innocents just doesn’t worth it, in the great scale of things, to me it doesn’t worth it. Your personal morals doesn’t matter when people is getting hurt by the innaction of the one with enough power to stop it. 

Thats why I find Clark’s attitude infuriating, and sometimes that happens to me with Scott, and with all the Truly Good Characters out there, I like antiheroes, vigilantes, more. Like Moon Knight for example, someone who’s willing to kill those who deserve it -at the same time, in the TW universe, those who deserve it at one point can change and redeem, wich makes killing them even more problematic (is it ok to kill Aiden and Ethan to save Boyd? now that we know they were going to change and help, that they would sacrifice themselves while trying to save Stiles?), but that’s another topic, there are so many shades in this-.

This view is very personal, I hold it in real life too, but is said by someone who would gladly go in a killing spree towards rapist and abusers despite my own mental healt or legal consequences, that’s my kinda thing. 

That being said, I DO NOT expect kids to go with it, or anyone, I recognize that is pretty harsh to ask anyone -regarding of age- to kill, killing is not fun, it leaves scars, it can break you and leave you empty, like it happened to Stiles with Donovan, and it was an accident, I can’t imagine how it would be to do it with full intention, even if is necessary.

What im trying to say, is that might be difficult for people to separate these things, the idea of someone who goes around using their power to punish the truly bad guys, but when you take the concept and force it into someone it becomes real, it becomes wrong to ask people to take a life, like their own mental health, the perception of themselves and their conscience doesn’t matter. 

People ask Scott to sacrifice himself even more by killing, and is not fair. 

He already had to sacrifice a lot, a normal life, his peace, his girlfriend, his friends. He had to get used to being chased, to fear for his life and the lives of his loved ones, and then he became a leader out of nowhere, forced by the situation and his own sense of responsability to guide others in the same rushed situation he was.

When people don’t think about it too much, is easy to get lost in the “he’s not doing enough” feeling I described in the first part of this.  And really? I can’t blame them too much, cause not everyone is going to get this involved in a series, I can’t blame them too much when they just watch and use it as the entertainment it is and they end up disliking Scott. 

What I can do is blame them when they hate him with an intensity that suggets that they are involved but refuse to see the more deep implications.

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The problem is that people make the false assumption that Scott would not kill under any circumstance. When this is quite simply not the case.

Scott has shown he is willing to kill when it is absolutely needed. (he did kill the Beast after all) And as he told Stiles in 5b, he always expected to be the one who ended up with blood on his hands.

Scott never one said he would never kill, no matter what, just that killing should not be the first option. That it should not be the first solution to any and all problems. In part because people did try to force him to kill, but also because he knows what it’s like to be turned into a ‘monster’ against your will, and he wants to give others the chance and protection he wasn’t given.

Scott is good, but he’s not judgmental. He’s never held it against Derek or Chris or anyone, if they saw the need to kill in self defense. What he always had an issue with, is when people make the black and white decision to kill others, without considering other options first. Scott unlike Peter, is very much a shades of grey kind of character, and people often forget that.

I’d like to add that Scott hasn’t only been in danger—he has actually, literally, died. He was murdered ny Theo right after being brutally beat by Liam—his own Beta. It’s so interesting to me how people gloss over this in fics or fandom discussions; this was a key part of his arc. (And despite this, he forgives Liam, and lets Theo redeem himself in season 6.)

He’s a good person to such a fault that it caused all of this—his and Stiles’ fallout, the pack breaking up, his death—but he still remains that good person.

Even though there were times where he could have (and maybe should have) killed, he never wanted to choose that option. There are times where it must be necessary, but Scott will always want to find a better alternative, hence why he let Kira send Theo to the Skinwalker prison instead of killing him right then and there.

I just don’t think it’s fair to dismiss Scott’s entire character just because Stiles was the fandom favorite.

(And a quick addition to that first post: I think a lot of people do frequently forget that Teen Wolf is a horror show in the horror genre, or, at the very least, has elements of it. People tend to dismiss Teen Wolf as a tropey, cringey, typical 2010s teen drama, and that kind of makes them blind to all its good points, imo!)

(I also think that Teen Wolf does a really good job of portraying teenagers :))

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But how are we supposed to feel bad about baby meow meow Theo if we don’t ignore his horrendous actions?

oh i’m not ignoring all he did wrong he’s just a sidenote here; i’m just using him as an example

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Yeah, I've guessed. I was just trying to be funny.

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On Wasted Potential

(The return of the early morning meta post before work.)

It’s been hard to put into words what is so odd about fandom’s reaction to Stiles and Scott and the concept of being a werewolf in Teen Wolf, but a recent comment I saw mentioned something that maybe puts things into better perspective.

The comment boiled down to the idea that being a werewolf and having powers was wasted on Scott. I don’t recall having seen comments like that before, but it makes sense if people are looking at it in that way. He’s wasting his powers, he’s not using them to their full potential and therefore he’s not a good werewolf.

The thing that clicked for me with that comment is that people are treating Scott’s werewolf powers the same way Stiles did in early Season 1: with excitement, like it’s something cool that should be used always to solve every problem, including using it to murder people (but only the Right people, of course).

That in itself isn’t too weird to me: we see the same kind of suspension of disbelief in all sorts of media, especially those involving kids or teenagers. If you give a kid a sword in order to go on a question (Percy Jackson, for example), it’s not a bad thing, it’s part of the story. You obviously wouldn’t give an actual 11-year old a weapon, because they could hurt themselves or someone else, but for the sake of the story? Hell yeah, go around waving that thing, no problem.

Teenager has superpowers that could very easily be used to do bad things if so inclined? Yeah, that sounds about right, as long as an adult figure reminds them that they need to be responsible with their newfound abilities. (Uncle Ben’s only line in any Spiderman project comes to mind, obviously.) There is a lack of weight behind the statement, though, until something bad happens and our teenage hero realizes they have a real responsibility to be good or save lives or whatever, but the real consequences of those powers are never really touched on unless it’s a specific plot beat.

Teen Wolf doesn’t do that. 

From the very beginning, the bite is framed like a horror movie. A kid is attacked in the woods in the middle of the night by a monster and he’s left to walk home alone in the dark. He tells his best friend about it the next day and the very real, very terrifying attack is treated like a joke. (And in his defense, Stiles didn’t know, so I don’t actually hold it against him too much at this point.)

He starts experiencing weird changes in his body, hearing and seeing things he’s not used to, and while some are benefits – no asthma is a plus – he’s clearly shown to be unnerved by it. He snaps at Jackson and spills almost everything because he’s scared, and that’s completely reasonable. Scott doesn’t get a cool little montage set to catchy music where he gets to practice his Cool New Abilities in his room while his mom calls out from another room asking if he’s okay. He’s immediately thrust into a situation where he is being manipulated by the Alpha, thrust into a world he doesn’t fully understand, and is intimidated and threatened by the only other werewolf around.

Derek calls the bite a gift, and I partially blame that scene for fandom’s idea of it, but you wouldn’t have to change much to make Scott’s werewolf origins into a full-blown horror series. He’s been given a weapon he can’t control, that he knows he needs to control, while there’s an active threat of death and violence hanging over his head. The Sheriff gets injured peripherally to what’s happening to him, and Stiles loses it and hurts him because in his teenage brain that’s all he can do, and fandom thinks Scott’s in the wrong? He’s living a nightmare and all people can focus on is the fact that he’s not following the trope, so obviously having these powers is wasted on him.

Even in later seasons, fandom holds Scott’s reluctance to embrace his powers to the fullest against him. He doesn’t want to be a killing machine, he never wanted the powers in the first place, and even if he had been asked I don’t think Scott would have agreed. He was fine being normal, and all he’s gotten since the bite is death and violence and threats against the people he loves. Peter gave a teenager a gun and set people after him, and fandom is angry that the teenager isn’t going full John Wick on his enemies so it’s a waste.

Teen Wolf’s writing isn’t always the best, but it does a good job of flipping tropes around and exploring interesting concepts. Scott’s story isn’t a hero origin story: it’s a horror story where the victim becomes a hero in the end without losing his humanity. And fandom hates the idea of it, because fandom has been conditioned to believe a hero is only ever good if they embrace violence to the fullest.

Scott’s pov of the world reminds me so much of Smallville’s Clark Kent, they don’t want to kill, they refuse to do it. 

Scott is good, is truly good, but in that path, there are people who are not. 

To me, keeping your hands clean by refusing to kill someone who’s hurting innocents just doesn’t worth it, in the great scale of things, to me it doesn’t worth it. Your personal morals doesn’t matter when people is getting hurt by the innaction of the one with enough power to stop it. 

Thats why I find Clark’s attitude infuriating, and sometimes that happens to me with Scott, and with all the Truly Good Characters out there, I like antiheroes, vigilantes, more. Like Moon Knight for example, someone who’s willing to kill those who deserve it -at the same time, in the TW universe, those who deserve it at one point can change and redeem, wich makes killing them even more problematic (is it ok to kill Aiden and Ethan to save Boyd? now that we know they were going to change and help, that they would sacrifice themselves while trying to save Stiles?), but that’s another topic, there are so many shades in this-.

This view is very personal, I hold it in real life too, but is said by someone who would gladly go in a killing spree towards rapist and abusers despite my own mental healt or legal consequences, that’s my kinda thing. 

That being said, I DO NOT expect kids to go with it, or anyone, I recognize that is pretty harsh to ask anyone -regarding of age- to kill, killing is not fun, it leaves scars, it can break you and leave you empty, like it happened to Stiles with Donovan, and it was an accident, I can’t imagine how it would be to do it with full intention, even if is necessary.

What im trying to say, is that might be difficult for people to separate these things, the idea of someone who goes around using their power to punish the truly bad guys, but when you take the concept and force it into someone it becomes real, it becomes wrong to ask people to take a life, like their own mental health, the perception of themselves and their conscience doesn’t matter. 

People ask Scott to sacrifice himself even more by killing, and is not fair. 

He already had to sacrifice a lot, a normal life, his peace, his girlfriend, his friends. He had to get used to being chased, to fear for his life and the lives of his loved ones, and then he became a leader out of nowhere, forced by the situation and his own sense of responsability to guide others in the same rushed situation he was.

When people don’t think about it too much, is easy to get lost in the “he’s not doing enough” feeling I described in the first part of this.  And really? I can’t blame them too much, cause not everyone is going to get this involved in a series, I can’t blame them too much when they just watch and use it as the entertainment it is and they end up disliking Scott. 

What I can do is blame them when they hate him with an intensity that suggets that they are involved but refuse to see the more deep implications.

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The problem is that people make the false assumption that Scott would not kill under any circumstance. When this is quite simply not the case.

Scott has shown he is willing to kill when it is absolutely needed. (he did kill the Beast after all) And as he told Stiles in 5b, he always expected to be the one who ended up with blood on his hands.

Scott never one said he would never kill, no matter what, just that killing should not be the first option. That it should not be the first solution to any and all problems. In part because people did try to force him to kill, but also because he knows what it’s like to be turned into a ‘monster’ against your will, and he wants to give others the chance and protection he wasn’t given.

Scott is good, but he’s not judgmental. He’s never held it against Derek or Chris or anyone, if they saw the need to kill in self defense. What he always had an issue with, is when people make the black and white decision to kill others, without considering other options first. Scott unlike Peter, is very much a shades of grey kind of character, and people often forget that.

I’d like to add that Scott hasn’t only been in danger—he has actually, literally, died. He was murdered ny Theo right after being brutally beat by Liam—his own Beta. It’s so interesting to me how people gloss over this in fics or fandom discussions; this was a key part of his arc. (And despite this, he forgives Liam, and lets Theo redeem himself in season 6.)

He’s a good person to such a fault that it caused all of this—his and Stiles’ fallout, the pack breaking up, his death—but he still remains that good person.

Even though there were times where he could have (and maybe should have) killed, he never wanted to choose that option. There are times where it must be necessary, but Scott will always want to find a better alternative, hence why he let Kira send Theo to the Skinwalker prison instead of killing him right then and there.

I just don’t think it’s fair to dismiss Scott’s entire character just because Stiles was the fandom favorite.

(And a quick addition to that first post: I think a lot of people do frequently forget that Teen Wolf is a horror show in the horror genre, or, at the very least, has elements of it. People tend to dismiss Teen Wolf as a tropey, cringey, typical 2010s teen drama, and that kind of makes them blind to all its good points, imo!)

(I also think that Teen Wolf does a really good job of portraying teenagers :))

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But how are we supposed to feel bad about baby meow meow Theo if we don't ignore his horrendous actions?

Scott should have been the one to sacrifice himself!

God... Reddit is the gift that keeps on giving.

I cropped it because this person rambled.

So, right from the word go, this person admits that they both never watched the movie AND that they dislike Scott. Why would anyone think they have ulterior motives for saying that Derek should have lived instead of Scott? They're totally not racist, just ask them.

In all honesty, this isn't even remotely surprising at this point. We all know that there is a significant portion of the fandom dedicated to hating Scott McCall for just existing, but in the same breath, it is a little tiresome. This person is upset that Derek died (fair) and that Eli went to Scott "like a prize" despite them barely knowing each other. But by that same logic, why would Scott give up his life for someone he barely knows instead of the boy's actual father?

The elephant in the room obviously being that Scott did try to sacrifice himself until Derek moved him out of the way. But, of course, that was in the movie, and this person admits from the very first sentence that they didn't watch the movie.

What I find the most amusing about this whole experience (the aftermath of the movie) is that Derek's death was probably Tyler Hoechlin's idea, so he wouldn't have to reprise the character anymore.

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"As a person who hasn't watched this piece of media, let me give you a 10 page essay on why this film sucks ass."

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100 followers fun!

Scott never knew he really liked bowling until his and Isaac’s third date was at the bowling alley. The pizza was greasy and it was a cheesy date spot; but Isaac always smelled like sunshine when Scott was being a cheesy romantic. Without using powers, both boys needed to have the ramps up and never figured out how to do anything fancy. But noticing Isaac’s brow scrunch in determination before swinging and barely hitting six pins down, made Scott heart leap as Isaac started cheering, jumping around their lane, before beaming a big beautiful smile towards him. Scott loved bowling.

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