lol @ the insinuation that men “turn to” the patriarchy as if it’s a weed strain rather than a violent system of oppression created to make women second-class citizens
men created it, it benefits them, they don’t commit unspeakable acts every second of every day because they’re “lonely and alienated” they do it because they want to and the systems they created allow them to with no consequences
legitimately i think men underestimate how boring misogyny is in media. like yes it can be gross or uncomfortable or upsetting or whatever else but for the most part it’s just boring. like we know this stuff. it’s not sooo controversial and revolutionary and new to the scene and edgy. it’s violent sex and women not being treated as people. like we know. we’re already living in it babes. the fastest way to make a piece of media boring is to make it misogynistic. and this especially applies to fantasy for me, because you’re over here getting immersed in a different world with different types of people and places and societies and then it’s just oh, the author didn’t actually make anything new. they took what they know about the real world some hundred years ago and added magic powers. or this was all just a really long intro to a dnd themed porno. the male characters sacrifice complexity because their motivations are just.. misogyny. which is at its core very simple and unimaginative. rape or violence or degradation or abuse aren’t really all that shocking or complex to see on screen. they’re in loads of movies with varying levels of quality in handling and i’m not particularly upset by them. they’re in some of my favorite movies. this isn’t an issue of sensibilities or fear. it’s just so boring.
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i absolutely agree!!! i’m not against these sorts of things ever occurring in fiction. they’re things that happen in real life — why shouldn’t they be permitted in fiction? but i’m not talking about media that tackles misogyny as a theme or a threat, i’m more talking about misogyny in media (both the writers’ misogyny and misogyny within the media between characters) being posed as something that inherently adds complexity, shock value, or "realism", as a poorly veiled excuse for men to insert their own violent and misogynistic fantasies into their writing.
several people mentioned Game of Thrones in their tags, and similar discussion has surrounded the new show The Idol. when you criticize gratuitous rape scenes or romanticized abuse or sexual humiliation of women on screen — or just the absence of women entirely! — the argument is often that we must criticize these things because they upset our delicate sensibilities, or because they’re elements of realism (which, sure, a lot of men are misogynistic, but then why are we still expected to empathize with these characters?), or don’t we know that they were meant to upset us to.. uhh… make us think! men think that they’re pushing the boundaries of media by showing the revolutionary occurrence of… a woman being strangled? a grown man marrying a little girl? like okay. lol. you’re not really tackling this in a meaningful way so what is this adding
women dating fat ugly men is not revolutionary and a “fuck you” to beauty standards, it’s frankly one of the most gender conforming things a woman can do and has been doing collectively as a sex for decades. be the change you want to see in the world, next time you see a man with a dad bod spit in his face.
I get men being sad because they don't get complimented, but I wish they understood that most of the time there's nothing to compliment them about because they put zero effort on their appereance. What do you want me to say? Your t-shirt is very red and your hair is definitely there! Ugly fuck
me: the alt right pipeline does not exist in a vacuum and some 'victims' were not such great people to begin with and just found comfort in justifications for their already existing hatred
comments: what if a 6 year old boy with depression watched ben shapiro and became a fascist and he was dying of cancer and his ONLY WISH was to kill a woman. would you truly not empathize?
Some women will say hairy armpits are unsanitary but have acrylic nail plague fingers…wake up
right wingers explaining how a priest molesting a 13 year old altar boy means all homosexuals need to be killed but 13 year old girls are at peak fertility years and ready to be married
re: ken, i just think it’s fun and also more than fair to hold male actors like ryan gosling to the same (honestly they could never be nearly damaging enough but i digress) standards women who aren’t even actors are held to in their everyday average lives. like i don’t even care that much, but i think we should go out of our way to complain abt male actors not being hot enough. i think it’s good that we aren’t trying to see ryan gosling for his good inner talents and qualities but instead just being upset that he looks old and not like he did in the notebook. men do this all the time to women both famous and not famous. so honestly it’s balancing to me to see women vocally annoyed that ryan gosling just isn’t hot and young looking enough to be ken. i’m sure the movie will be fine lol it’s just a great opportunity for women to point out this double standard
I'm not saying that 42 year old men shouldn't be in movies. but aren't Ken and Barbie supposed to be young? why did they pick a young actress and then an actor who is in his 40s and has always looked older than his age
aspiring tradwives when they realize that men in high earning occupations normally marry women in high earning occupations and the only guy in their age range that would seek out a trad wife is Gregor the Keyboard Warrior who boorishly demands but deeply looks down on their femininity and will strip them of all their little decorative homemaker hobbies by forcing them to live in gamer cave squalor
people will see a horrifically inbred pitbull foaming at the mouth trying to get to a toddler and be like aww what a cutie look at his smiiiiiiile then see a tiny white dog who gives companionship and friendship every day and be like idk what it is but that dog is a bitch that dog is disgusting like a bitch karen dog i want to punt it across the room
One of my BIGGEST pet peeves is when people default to male when talking about an animal like it’s a symptom of a much bigger issue about people seeing scrotes as defaults and people always judge the women who point this out acting like they’re overreacting when you know damn well if they did the opposite those fucks would be asking “hOw DId yOu KnOw iT wAs FeMaLE” She’s female because I said she was now shut the fuck up
like this perpetual american defensiveness online whenever someone is mildly critical to be like well things are terrible here and our government is violent and oppressive like yes thats true. most governments are though. the us is very evil, but it does not have a monopoly on evil and it installs evil in other countries routinely. why act like NOBODY can ever be critical of us or our methods of resistance and then act like this is the only country in the world where dissidents are jailed or killed…..it’s tone deaf on top of being annoying
not to mention french protestors are literally being beaten and arrested like it is on video. the french police look indistinguishable from american police. you sound so ignorant and self centered it is actually embarrassing and you didn’t even bother to have the bare minimum interest in what is actually going on in france…….you’re calling protestors putting their lives on the line privileged while sitting in your house doing fuck all lol
I'm just gonna say it!!! If you're going to come out and claim that all criticisms of men-as-a-class are faulty because men also have intersectional oppression while not acknowledging that they are oppressed because of those identities and not because of maleness... you're an MRA! go listen to andrew tate and buy your johnny depp tshirt and leave us alone.
Hold on people are only realising the weeknd is a bad person because of this gross show he's helping create, have you people actually listened to his music.
