“there’s no need for an lotr remake” almost correct! there’s no need for an lotr remake UNLESS everything is the same except there are extended scenes of gollum chasing after and attempting to get back the ring in increasingly ridiculous and high-stakes scenarios while his minor actions majorly affect key elements of the plot, like scrat in the ice age films with the nut
I wonder if people will ever say, “Let’s hear about Frodo and the Ring.” And they’ll say “Yes, that’s one of my favorite stories. Frodo was really courageous, wasn’t he, Dad?”, “Yes, my boy, the most famousest of hobbits. And that’s saying a lot.”
TheLordoftheRings:TheTwoTowers (2002) — dir. Peter Jackson
You know how All Fantasy Movies™ need to create their own Fantasy Languages for the Fantasy Worlds……? why don’t movies just…. use extant languages????
Here’s the deal. We have hella fake languages, like, say Na'vi from Avatar which was inspired a lot by the sounds in Maori. why don’t they just use Maori?? few enough people speak it so it would still sound completely foreign to like… everyone except like 50k individuals in the entire world. And it would help encourage people to learn and otherwise dying language.
Like imagine if they hired some Maori teachers to teach the actors a little-spoken extant language instead of paying some white guy from California to invent a language inspired by real dying languages to make up some words, a grammatical structure, and an alphabet for this fictional universe.
Or what about Game of Thrones, with High Valarian, which was inspired by Estonian and Swahili.
CAN YOU IMAGINE if a wildly popular show like GoT hired Estonian or Swahili linguists and interpreters to teach actors a few phrases? It doesn’t matter if they don’t have perfect pronunciation. That’s fine???? Most people won’t know and tbh even for those who do understand Estonian or Swahili, the increase in interest in people learning their language is??? not a bad thing???
AND THEN I REALISED THERE IS AN ACTUAL GOOD EXAMPLE OF WHAT I WAS THINKING OF.
BLACK FUCKING PANTHER, OF COURSE.
Wakanda uses isiXhosa as their fantasy language. The amount of cultural RICHNESS that comes from using an existing language is honestly unparalleled. And the coolest thing is, there are things in real language that you just can’t make up when a white man engineers a mde up language in his office. The amount of interest in Xhosa SPIKED after Black Panther’s release and SO MANY MORE people became aware of its existence. Do more people speak it? Who knows? Probably not rly? But at least now there is awareness of this language that only has some 8 mil speakers (that’s a little less than the population of NYC).
And the thing is, even if there are not more speakers of it in the world in response to a movie, at least there is greater awareness of different parts of the world? Imagine using the power of popular media for good like this. People becoming aware of South African tribes, Maori tribes, small Baltic countries, Bantu languages, etc.
Like ??? few enough people are actually aware of the sounds that these languages make that would you actually know if Dothraki was actually a real language spoken by some people in the world?? It would be cool to actually help the cultures that you’re “drawing inspiration” from.
The wild popularity of Tolkien’s Elvish gets me GOING. Every now and then I’ll see that post going around showing how to form words from Elvish letters. You know what written Elvish looks like to me? It looks like Hindi. It looks like the Devanagari script (other people say it also looks like Tibetan, which I cannot attest to, but I can say for sure it DEFINITELY looks like Hindi’s Devanagari script). How consonants and vowels come together is IDENTICAL to the structure in Hindi and there are even a solid number of overlapping characters. Spoken Elvish sounds nothing like Hindi ofc but the written language sure resembles the structure with a fuckton of the same letters. Written Elvish is ostensibly stolen from Indian or Tibetan or other ‘Eastern’ written languages. Imagine if all the people who think Elvish is super sexy and cool and want to learn it actually commited themselves to learning Hindi, a language written and spoken by almost 20% of the world population? How fucking rad would that be?
(look at this elvish Tengwar that is like… literally just Hindi vowels)
I just feel like ???????? movie producers could do a lot of good??? in this very small simple way?? but instead they pay one single person to invent a language and then teach people how to speak their made up language and they have to develop 1000-3000 invented words… when they could just …. use an extant little known language and bring some indigineous languages back from the brink of extinction !!!!!!!
also thinking about how tolkien’s women (at least in lord of the rings) are some of the mostimportant characters (outside of like, sam) -
galadriel - the most powerful elf in middle earth and one of the last remaining elves that remembers the light of the Two Trees (and all the slaughter that followed), understands how terrible she could be with the one ring in her grasp and is all the more accomplished for having refused it
arwen - gave up everything for true love, is one of the only elves with complete control over her destiny due to being the line of the half-elven, and eventually decides to follow aragorn into death and the unknown (a choice not many would make)
eowyn - the epitome of what tolkien is trying to teach us throughout the books: that in the end not fighting is not cowardly or weak, that healing and protection and laughter are the things to be valued over war and destruction
“I’m old, Gandalf. I know I don’t look it but I’m beginning to feel it in my heart. I feel thin… sort of stretched, like butter scraped over too much bread. I need a holiday. A very long holiday. And I don’t expect I shall return. In fact I mean not to”