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Stellan Skarsgård får hederspris - Värnamo filmhistoriska festival

Aaaah Stellan is getting another honory award. This time from the Värnamo Filmhistoriska Festival. Article says he isn't attending as filming abroad and will be presented at a later date. They are honouring him with a screening of Good Evening Mr. Wallenberg which he says he is happy about as was one of his favourite projects, which makes me happy as its one of my favourite Stellan films.

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In reply to @fuerst-von-argot 's question.

There's a deleted scene in the Chernobyl script where Valery meets Boris in his apartment after talking to Charkov in his car.

As a matter of fact, it is Charkov himself who prompts Valery to pay Boris a visit.

I'm not so sure why Charkov had to say "Talk to Shcherbina" instead of... simply telling Valery himself why the trial had to be delayed. 🤷‍♀️

Was it just the transition Mazin needed from one scene to the next, was it to show how Charkov is sadistically enjoying showing off how he knows everyone's whereabouts? Orrrrr does he ship Valoris and wants to see them reunited?? "You idiot, don't you know Shcherbina is not in Kiev anymore, that he's in MOSCOW?? Run to him, you dumb motherfucker, ruuuuuunnnn." *kicks him out of the limousine*

Anyways, here is the Boris' grandson scene that comes next.

It is a sad sad scene really, it was probably put there to foreshadow Valery's ending. When Boris' describes how Fomin tried to kill himself "to make a statement", and when we see Valery removing his own glasses, we can tell that he's contemplating suicide. ☹

We got one glimpse of that scene when Johan Renck posted a pic he took of Stellan during filming. The wallpaper, the painting, the sofa and Boris' cardigan are not shown in any other scene so we presume this still is from the "grandson deleted scene" - and the only visual we have of it so far.

@elenatria .....I hate to think it could have been Boris to plant the idea of suicide making a statement into Valerys head. But I adore this pic so much of him in his fluffy cardigan. And imagining Boris and Valery cuddled up on that sofa!

I really don't think Luthen is a Jedi. He may have some connection to one. He may have been some part of order 66. I think there is so much more to know about him "I've been hiding for too long" I love how we don't know who or what he is. But either way and in both guises......he's sexy as fuck!

Man, that scene between Luthen and Saw was SO INTERESTING.

Because we don't know a lot about Luthen, much like Saw, but we DO know more about Saw, just like Luthen seems to. The audience isn't aligned with one character or the other necessarily, we can go back and forth a little.

Luthen's lack of explained backstory, the fact that he's always putting up some kind of act, some kind of front, means that we as the audience don't really know him either. It's hard to know exactly what he stands for and what his plans are with Cassian. He's not affiliated with Saw, he isn't explicitly affiliated with Bail Organa yet, and he's not affiliated with any of the other known organizations we've been given in mainstream Star Wars before (the Separatist/Republic divide from TCW). All we know is that he SEEMS to be anti-Imperial. But one of the last people we were told was pretty firmly anti-Imperial turned out to just be out for himself.

And on the other hand, we DO know Saw. We know his origins on Onderon and the death of his sister. We know just how long he's been fighting oppression of his people. We know what he does and what he becomes in the future. We know that he's willing to do some pretty heinous things in the name of his cause, but also that he's one of the only people aware that the Death Star is something that needs to be figured out and is trying to track it down to keep it from becoming the problem it has the capacity to become. We know Saw. The good, the sympathetic, and the ugly.

So it's interesting to see this conversation with Luthen, Luthen who says "we need a little extra oppression in order to actually spark a real rebellion," which seems ruthless enough to fall in line with Saw's own tactics, except that Saw's not willing to risk his own people, his own cause, for someone else's mission. He's unwilling to help someone else if there isn't something about it that helps his personal agenda.

And we also see Luthen refuse to pick a side beyond bringing down the Empire, arguing that they can do more together than they can separately, and that their infighting can wait until the Empire's been taken down. Saw's choices to protect his own people for his own agenda go against all of his big talk about how everyone chooses a side but he's the only one really fighting for the galaxy. Saw's more inclined to let petty infighting keep him from helping other people in favor of just trying to do everything himself and assuming he can do it all himself. Which isn't unsympathetic when absolutely no one listens to him later about the Death Star, so in some ways he's not WRONG that if he wants something done he just needs to do it himself.

We don't know who Luthen is really, we don't know why he does what he does and makes the choices we see him make, which makes him inherently untrustworthy but also leaves the option open for him to surprise us with his alliances. We do know who Saw is and why he does what he does, which means even if we don't LIKE him, we can trust that we know what choices he'll make. We can trust that we know where he stands.

Saw stands at the front with his people, he's hiding out in cold caves with his people and making absolutely no bones about who he is and what he believes. He's got nothing to hide from anyone.

Luthen stands behind all of his recruits, letting them do the work while he stays on Coruscant in relative safety drumming up support from senators to fund his efforts and just passing information where it needs to go. He's hiding from everyone.

This scene was incredible because so much went unsaid and lives in just... the audience understanding who Saw is as a character and how that juxtaposes with the relative little of what we known of Luthen.

Which seems like such a wonderful way to use a legacy character, to take the fact that this character has been around for a while and that most audience members will know him and his story, to compare against a character who is completely new and unexplored. That dynamic that the audience has with the characters has been transposed into the dynamic the characters have with EACH OTHER and defines the place they currently hold in the narrative and its themes. It's masterful.

@kanansdume perfectly put. The more Luthen reveals.....the less we seem to know about him. It has been suggested to me that he could be Palpatine or working for Palpatine. I really hope that is not the case and his alliance is solely with the rebellion. In whatever capacity and for whatever reason. He is very morally grey. But the Palpatine theory doesn't make any sense to me. Why was he so eager to get the heist done? Why recruit Andor? Why was he so nervous? Why seek Saw's help in whatever help he is asking for? Why wouldn't he expose Mon now. I think there is more to Kleya too. I'm looking forward to how the next 4 episodes unfold. How Cassian is getting out that dystopian place.

I love Stellan in sinister roles. But pleassssse no! Not the empire! That would destroy my childhood! But fuckkkkkk he's so sexy as Luthen too as a bonus to this fantastic show!

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Luthen laughing for @the-ravening | Andor s01e06: The Eye

+ bonus: relief or sudden concern or both?

OMG @ex0rin Thank you so much for these wonderful wonderful gifs! And yes.....that relief means it's just the beginning of the battle! Stellan is smashing it out park with Luthen.

I just watched Andor Episode 6 and... I'm speechless. This is some of the best television I have watched in years. I am not even talking about realms of Star Wars anymore; this blows so many things straight out of the water in terms of speaking out & showing the truth regarding imperialism, colonialism, capitalism, opression, what it does to the world and how it affects minorities and people of colour especially - and still letting the viewer do their own thinking - in a mainstream media of an extremely popular franchise. It's not easily digestible, but so important on so many levels. I wish I could put my thoughts together more eloquently on all of this, but I am short for time. So let me just say this: Watch this show. And do the effort to engage with its themes, its thoughts. It is so vital to show that we support and love and appreciate Andor. I don't know what Tony Gilroy and co did to convince Disney, of all companies, to produce and put this out on their streaming platform - it's a small revolution in and on its own. The series is inspiring, upsetting, it makes you angry on behalf of what is happening not just in this galaxy far, far away; it is an echo of the real world, because the parallels to what is happening could not be more clear. Even if you have never watched a Star Wars before (you barely have to know any Star Wars background knowledge to enjoy it fully), do it. Every line is written perfect and tightly, every sentence uttered, every scene and dialogue is a small television rebellion in itself. Every character is so complex and compelling, so incredibly human (both good human and evil human) in their own way, and by episode six, your heart aches for so many of them (ugly crying here, you know why). And on top, it's so suspenseful - you cannot predict what is going to happen - it is so beautifully and poetically shot, and the music is thrilling. (Also, as aside, they are giving us a heavily implied queer relationship of two women who take up important supporting roles.)

Look, all I'm saying, (trying not to spoil) but when Vel handed Cassian the manifesto, it was as if handing the manifesto to us, the viewer. Watch Andor. And remember what is said in there, and shown, and hold it tight.

For the rebellion.

Perfectly put!

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My comrade @widthofmytongue tagged me to post five songs I never skip, so I decided to list an entire playlist.  Thank you comrade for thinking of me!

(also, if anyone can help me learn how to embed spotify links in a text post so I can list songs that would be super helpful!)

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@legasovas thanks for the tag, comrade. 😘

1. More than a feeling - Boston

2. To France - Maggie Reilly

3. Suburbia - Pet Shop Boys

4. Come together - The Beatles

5. Lullaby - The Cure

Thanks for the tag @elenatria . Mighty fine choices!

1. The Dance - Garth Brooks

2. The Living Years - Mike and the Mechanics

3. Paradise by the Dashboard Light - Meatloaf

4. All of My Heart - ABC

5. Mr. Brightside - The Killers

Source: Spotify
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Andor s01e05: The Axe Forgets

AKA: Luthen realizing he's made a mistake with Cassian

Loved how they showed a vulnerability in Luthen in ep.5. So unexpected as he seemed so in control in the the last 3 episodes. Be interesting now to see more from him. More character detail and his back story.

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NEW promo image of Stellan Skarsgård as Luthen Rael in the film ANDOR via new issue of EMPIRE (UK, dated September 2022)

NEW Stellan’s character Luthen Rael is in a LEGO set called ‘Star Wars Ambush on Ferrix’ 75338 Toy Building Set

It’s not every day we see a Skarsgård in LEGO!

Images from my digital scans from EMPIRE and TOTAL FILM (LEGO set), gif by hegodamask, and Luthen Rael LEGO from the LEGO website.