Do you think the real reason why Yuan Shao lost against Cao Cao was because he was not wearing his hat at the time of battle ?
It had to have been. He was probably so obsessed with how ‘great’ Yuan Shang was, because he put the hat on him so Yuan Shao was entirely vulnerable.
As we all know, Zhang He’s KOEI counterpart is entirely 100% truthful to the real guy and he appreciates beauty. He was only serving Yuan Shao because of said hat, so when he saw him without it he left.
I really /really/ am fond of Yuan Shao. Maybe it's because of my love of Shakespeare, but he really is a perfect example of a good person corrupted by power. I've heard the arguments made that Yuan Shao might have been far more successful in his war with Cao Cao were it not for all the internal strife and bickering between his advisors. Was there ever a chance where Yuan could have beaten Cao Cao?
Oh definitely. He had a large, experienced army and extensive resources. At the time of Guandu, he held the advantage over Cao Cao in terms of territory and resources. While their armies weren’t as horribly mismatched as is often depicted, Yuan Shao certainly had the upper hand.
His failure at Guandu was due to internal strife (killing Qu Yi, imprisoning Tian Feng, his advisers working against each other, etc.) tactical errors (mistiming his advance, being drawn in to conflict on a single front), and the extraordinary skill of Cao Cao and his officers. While nothing could be done about that last point, Yuan Shao could have still prevailed had he managed his people better and made better tactical choices.
Of all the “other” warlords, Yuan Shao had the most realistic chance of conquering the land.
Yuan Shao is a really fascinating figure. His arc - from a brave and heroic youth to…well, Yuan Shu 2.0 - makes for an amazing story.
Eve: Eh? O..oniichan? I’ve never heard of such a thing — unless it’s from another language? Ordination? Urchin?
Isaac: Well both yes and no Itseve! You see the Japanese have a funny way of calling each other — once they’ve established a bond that surpasses death itself, just like Cao Cao and Yuan Shao. Sort of like a camaraderie! Oniichan! It means “inseparable comrades.” It looks like this person wants to be the best of friends with you!
Miria: Isn’t that wonderful Itseve? Friendship! Buddies! Gosh, they might even rival us Isaac!
Isaac: Come now Miria my dear — it’s clear as day that…
Eve: Well, I’m not very sure, but I would love to be friends, haha!
Isaac and Miria hijacking an ask, aha. I should call it askeveandfriends really. If the “Itseve” part is confusing, you might find an answer in the Baccano! dub, which is a gem of its own.
I went back to play DW8 and as someone who played 2-5, I realized the stages that have been a staple to the franchise really really seemed underwhelming. YT rebellion from only Shu, Hu Lao gate seems lacking suspense, yuan vs cao at guandu didn't have the tide turning. Even Shu's final battle which used to be the main ending was anti climatic. Looking back on the DW8 I realized- the levels felt more like a chore. There is seriously maybe 1 or 2 stages I actually enjoyed playing through.
I agree. A lot of that game feels like it was done by rote. There was no passion or energy in it. Especially compared to DW7.
7 knew it was up against a lot of expectations. 6 was garbage and if 7 wasn’t fresh and fun, it might have been the end of the series. There was a lot of effort put into that game, and it paid off. 8 just sort of…happened.