You won’t see me argue with a lot of what you said, but if you came out of the theater with that opinion I have only one thought. God, I wish that was me.
I saw cap 3 when I was only a casual fan, almost a Cap stan, and I came out of that theater with my mom (shut up she’s my best friend) and we both got the impression that “Tony fucked shit up. And in the end cap was the bigger man for apologizing.”
Yup. That was really my impression.
It was a captain america movie and I knew that Cap was going to be the hero. The entire time I knew. And so I went and saw the movie and I heard the lines “plant yourself like a tree” “You move” “I could do this all day” and I completely bought in to Steve’s side. He was righteous. He was good. And if he didn’t support the accords they must be bad. Just like anyone on team cap, every time steve makes a decision i agree because “Captain’s orders.”
Rhodey’s line at the end where he “doesn’t regret supporting the accords because they were the right thing to do” for me, was a relief. It shows me that this character that was only trying to do the right thing, still has spirit. It shows me that even though he’s wrong, he still has conviction and he’ll make it through his injury. To me, at that time, it was a way to display that there wouldn’t be any serious consequences for Rhodey’s actions. That yes, he’s paralyzed but Tony can build him something to walk and more importantly his psyche is intact! Someone losing the ability to walk could severely impact their mental state but Rhodey’s okay! Plus he spoke in the past tense. “I supported the accords” meaning the accords don’t really matter anymore because they don’t exist! (I stand by this, I will eat my hat if the accords still exist/aren’t thrown out in the upcoming marvel movies)
Steve’s letter was much the same. Relief. Now I can’t listen to it without being enraged but when I first heard it all I heard was “No hard feelings. I’ll still come when the world needs saving.” and felt relief. Look at cap! Putting aside their differences over the accords to assure tony that he will be there in the future! What a mature adult! (literally kill me)
Rhodey speech didn’t leave an impression on me. Hell, more people can quote “Tony Stank” than they can a word of what Rhodey said. The last thing we see is steve looking fly as hell as he rescues the rest of the avengers. That is what I remember. Steve Rogers being a hero and rescuing his friends.
It took me thinking “hey, I really liked that movie. Lets see what other people think!” that introduced me to other opinions. And let me tell you, most of the mainstream opinions were all “Yes the accords were awful whatever thats just fact LOOK AT HOW SIMILAR IT IS TO BATMAN V SUPERMAN.” When I finally came across an opinion that was about the accords in universe that summarized was basically “Um, actually cap is a complete jackass” it gave me complete whiplash. It also kinda pissed me off because I was basically a casual cap stan. So I read what they had to say and it blew my mind. They obviously put a lot of thought into it but it didn’t really change what I thought. It was common sense to me that cap was right and tony was wrong, because that’s how it was presented to me in the movie. Steve finds bucky-tony locks up bucky. Tony creates the accords(yes i honestly thought that)-team cap becomes fugitives. Tony locks up the avengers-steve breaks them out.
It was only because I was starting to really get into marvel that I was exposed to the idea that, um, maybe steve is just an irrational immature fella who didn’t care about the accords- and only wanted to save his friend. And then post after post of people defending tony. Like “No he didn’t make the accords” “yes he constantly admits his faults and takes responsibility” “Um, was he responsible for ultron?” and on and on and then oh my god. They had such good ideas it made me rewatch the entire MCU with a new perspective and for me to get INCREDIBLY frustrated. They just, they just shit on Tony so much. The more i watched the more i couldn’t ignore it. He fucking didn’t do half the shit they blame him for. They shit on him for having money. They shit on him for having been a weapons distributor, something that he OBVIOUSLY feels guilty about god. They shit on him for basically anything he does as an individual and the more I watched the more infuriating it became. He tries so goddamn hard and yet it always turns to shit and wow #relatable but also he needs rest.
So anyways, that is how I went from a cap fan to a tony fan and sorry for the rant but every casual fan I’ve met accepts that the accords are bad as fact, because that was how it was presented to them and forming a different opinion would require effort that the casual watcher will not do.