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Back at Winterfell, they had eaten in the Great Hall almost half the time. Her father used to say that a lord needed to eat with his men, if he hoped to keep them. “Know the men who follow you,” she heard him tell Robb once, “and let them know you. Don’t ask your men to die for a stranger.” At Winterfell, he always had an extra seat set at his own table, and every day a different man would be asked to join him. One night it would be Vayon Poole, and the talk would be coppers and bread stores and servants. The next time it would be Mikken, and her father would listen to him go on about armor and swords and how hot a forge should be and the best way to temper steel. Another day it might be Hullen with his endless horse talk, or Septon Chayle from the library, or Jory, or Ser Rodrik, or even Old Nan with her stories.

Arya had loved nothing better than to sit at her father’s table and listen to them talk. She had loved listening to the men on the benches too; to freeriders tough as leather, courtly knights and bold young squires, grizzled old men-at-arms. She used to throw snowballs at them and help them steal pies from the kitchen. Their wives gave her scones and she invented names for their babies and played monsters-and-maidens and hide-the-treasure and come-into-my-castle with their children. Fat Tom used to call her “Arya Underfoot,” because he said that was where she always was. She’d liked that a lot better than “Arya Horseface.” (AGOT)

arya underfoot is one of the most important names for arya. she goes through numerous personas and identities but this is one of the first. and unlike most of the others it doesn’t chip away at arya’s sense of self. arya underfoot embraces arya’s true identity. it was given to arya by the smallfolk of winterfell, specifically her father’s men, but even jon and theon think of her as such. they gave her this nickname because she was always so close to them, literally underfoot. she would play, befriend, and socialize with all of her people. regardless of birth or rank or job. arya valued their existence which is more than most highborns who see them as disposable things.  

and while arya hasn’t been in the north for years her connection to it’s people has never diminished. arya often remembers the ones she loved from winterfell and even crosses paths with some northern characters both new and old

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anonymous asked:

oh hey another off-handed queen reference in Arya's narrative: "I’ll dress you all in yellow silk, and on your head a crown." interesting. this song is clearly in reference to Arya x Gendry, as you so explained. And, the 'yellow silk', is yellow not a color of house baratheon? aka the house of the current royal family aka the house of which Gendry is technically a part of? haha I know its a long shot, I don't think/want Arya to be a queen, but its fun to speculate.

I love speculating about this stuff- the kind that no one talks about. It’s fun like you say!

I’m actually very surprised that there are as many queen references in Arya’s narrative considering that she’s that she’s pretty removed from Westerosi nobility’s politics. I say “pretty” because she does spend much of the first book living in KL’s court and meets some nobles in her journeys (Lady Smallwood, Roose Bolton, Lord Beric, Ned Dayne, ect.) In fact, she spends a fair amount of time witnessing political interactions and battle plans when she serves as Lord Bolton’s cupbearer. 

She brought Lord Bolton a damp washcloth to wipe down his soft hairless body. “I will send a letter of my own,” he told the onetime maester.

“To the Lady Walda?”
“To Ser Helman Tallhart.”
A rider from Ser Helman had come two days past. Tallhart men had taken the castle of the 
Darrys, accepting the surrender of its Lannister garrison after a brief siege.

“Tell him to put the captives to the sword and the castle to the torch, by command of the king.

Then he is to join forces with Robett Glover and strike east toward Duskendale. Those are rich lands, and hardly touched by the fighting. It is time they had a taste. Glover has lost a castle, and Tallhart a son. Let them take their vengeance on Duskendale.” Arya, ACoK

Arya ends up being aware of Robb’s forces (and the Red Wedding, though she doesn’t recognize that.) She even thinks to herself about the Lannister surrender. She does get insight into what’s going on there at least. 

She also interestingly enough learns a little of Braavosi politics, which could be useful considering Braavos and Westeros have a shown, interwoven relationship (Iron Bank of Braavos):

The Sealord is still sick.”

“This is no new thing. The Sealord was sick yesterday, and he will still be sick upon the morrow.”

“Or dead.”

“When he is dead, that will be a new thing.”

When he is dead, there will be a choosing, and the knives will come out. That was the way of it in Braavos. In Westeros, a dead king was followed by his eldest son, but the Braavosi had no kings. “Tormo Fregar will be the new sealord.”

“Is that what they are saying at the Inn of the Green Eel?”


The kindly man took a bite of his egg. The girl heard him chewing. He never spoke with his mouth full. He swallowed, and said, “Some men say there is wisdom in wine. Such men are fools. At other inns other names are being bruited about, never doubt.” He took another bite of egg, chewed, swallowed. “What three new things do you know, that you did not know before?”

“I know that some men are saying that Tormo Fregar will surely be the new sealord,” she answered. “Some drunken men." Arya, ADWD

She even manages to hear about Dany when she listens to tales from sailors. 

Anyway, the point is that Arya is not that closely connected to politics and yet there are some queen references specific to her narrative. Let’s see, I’m trying to remember the ones I found (this is an old ask.)

Well, first there’s Nymeria.

The direwolves are heavily established as being a representative of the Stark.

“He is part of you, Robb. To fear him is to fear you.”Catelyn to Robb about Grey Wind, ASoS

Ghost did not count. Ghost was closer than a friend. Ghost was part of him.Jon, ADWD

And Arya named her direwolf after a famous woman queen:

Arya had named her after the warrior queen of the Rhoyne, who had led her people across the narrow sea. That had been a great scandal too. Arya, AGoT

Interestingly enough, it’s important to note what Nymeria was famous for here. Queen Nymeria saved her people, brought ten thousand ships. and conquered Dorne to be a home for her people. 

Why does that matter? Well, she saved her people and gave them a home, but really it’s because she led them. And Nymeria the direwolf is racking up quite an impressive following right now:

They say the pack is led by a monstrous she-wolf, a stalking shadow grim and grey and huge. They will tell you that she has been known to bring aurochs down all by herself, that no trap nor snare can hold her, that she fears neither steel nor fire, slays any wolf that tries to mount her, and devours no other flesh but man.”  Brienne, AFFC

"Wolves. Hundreds of the bloody beggars.” He’d lost two sentries to them. The wolves had come out of the dark to savage them. “Armed men in mail and boiled leather, and yet the beasts had no fear of them. Before he died, Jate said the pack was led by a she-wolf of monstrous size. A direwolf, to hear him tell it.”Jaime, AFFC

Nymeria is leading a pack of hundreds of wolves. Hundreds. Nymeria and Arya are interconnected, it’s heavily established that the direwolves are a part of their specific Stark, and Nymeria is named after a famous, conquering queen while the wolf more or less takes over the Riverlands. Also, Nymeria the direwolf is a leader. Our insight through Arya’s dreams tell us that Nymeria controls and commands her pack:

As she dragged it up the muddy bank, one of her little brothers came prowling, his tongue lolling from his mouth. She had to snarl to drive him off, or else he would have fed….

Men on horses, with flapping black and yellow and pink wings and long shiny claws in hand. Some of her younger brothers bared their teeth to defend the food they’d found, but she snapped at them until they scattered. Arya, ASoS

So Nymeria’s often mentioned pack of hundreds of wolves in the Riverlands that she controls could be an instance of foreshadowing of a future role of Arya’s. Symbolically a part of Arya is leading hundreds of wolves could actually equate to Arya leading a large number of “wolves” (Northmen or Stark men.) After all, Arya even calls Northmen and her father/Robb’s forces her “pack”. On seeing the Northmen in cages with the Brotherhood Without Banners:

Wolves, she thought again. Like me. Was this her pack?  

Then there’s the seemingly illogical conversation Arya had with her father about her future marriage, especially when you juxtapose it with Sansa’s similar talk.

“You,” Ned said, kissing her lightly on the brow, “will marry a king and rule his castle, and your sons will be knights and princes and lords and, yes, perhaps even a High Septon.” Arya, AGoT

Ned, for no fathomable reason, tells Arya that she will marry a king, only a king, no other candidates. And that’s especially weird because he gives four potential professions for her future sons (knights, princes, lords, maybe a High Septon,) but only one for her future husband: a king. Compare it with Sansa’s same talk:

“Sweet one,” her father said gently, “listen to me. When you’re old enough, I will make you a match with a high lord who’s worthy of you, someone brave and gentle and strong. This match with Joffrey was a terrible mistake.” Sansa, AGoT

So Arya is told she’ll marry a king with no other options while Sansa is still engaged to the future king, the assumably only king of the next generation in Westeros- making this comment even stranger. But Sansa, as soon as her betrothal is called off by Ned, is told that he will make her a match with a “high lord”, not a king or any other option.  

I actually failed to connect the yellow to House Baratheon, but you’re definitely right. That could also be another nod to Gendry’s parentage- as if we don’t have them everywhere. And another queen reference since as you point out, it says the Maiden in the Tree (who represents Arya) is given a crown for her head and Baratheon, current rulers on the Iron Throne, colored silk.

I’ll dress you all in yellow silk, and on your head a crown 
Arya, ASoS

And some people speculate that the reason why we keep being reminded of the connection between Arya and Lyanna (in AGoT with Ned, then in ASoS with Harwin, and then again in ADWD with Bran) may be because of the whole Robert/Lyanna/Rhaegar thing be referenced in Arya’s plot with Gendry/Aegon. I don’t believe that, but it is worth mentioning because the Lyanna comparison is definitely going to mean something later if you ask me- I mean all the connections between Sansa and Catelyn ended up being hugely important for Sansa’s storyline and flee from KL. Rhaegar was the heir to the Iron Throne and Robert eventually became the King. If Aegon is truly who he says, it’s definitely not outside the realm of possibility that he will end up as some sort of king (I believe the Seven Kingdoms will become seven kingdoms with their own rulers at the end.) But, like I said, I don’t really believe that speculation.

So there are quite a bit of Arya/queen references.

Note: these don’t include all the actual queen references in Arya’s narrative. Arya thinks of Queen Cersei a lot, met someone named after a pirate queen and learned of that queen (the Black Pearl,) talks of the “Merling Queen” a fair amount, ect. These are just references that directly tie Arya to being a queen of some sort. And I think there are others, I didn’t really look too deeply for them.

But I would like to say that this is why I don’t really go on all the instances of “foreshadowing” picked up by the fans. The books are so long and complex that I think you can find fake instances of “foreshadowing” for a lot of what you look for. Like here, Ned’s lines alone do seem to indicate foreshadowing, especially considering Sansa does end up marrying a high lord (Tyrion,) but that isn’t necessarily true. And I still really doubt that Arya will become a queen for a variety of reasons and also because her endgame will almost certainly be in Winterfell where Bran or Jon will undoubtably rule. 

anonymous asked:

who do you think the war of the three queens is going to be with?

I honestly have no idea, no one’s in a position to fight and minus Cersei and Margaery there are no queens. 

The possible candidates:

  • Cersei Lannister
  • Margaery Tyrell
  • Daenerys Targaryen
  • Sansa Stark

I know fans have speculated other women but I don’t think anyone else is possible, not from Littlefinger’s persepctive anyway. 

Cersei Lannister 

Cersei’s already a queen with a powerful family, so at first glance it would make sense for her to be one of Littelfinger’s queens. However the Lannisters are in no position to wage another war; Tywin and Kevan are both dead, Cersei’s awaiting her trial, Jaime’s disappeared, and Tyrion’s on the run for regicide. 

The Lannisters have lost their leaders, and I doubt their bannerman would be any help because Tywin crushed overmighty subjects making the Westerlands is completely dependent on the power of House Lannister. So if it’s another war Littlefinger wants then Cersei’s no good to him, because neither her or her family are in a position to wage one.

Margaery Tyrell 

Again same problem as Cersei; Margaery’s awaiting her trial plus the Tyrells are busy fighting the Ironborn, however unlike the Westerlands they still have their battle commanders, thus giving them a strong military command. If a war was waged the Tyrells are most likely going to be on the defensive, but it won’t change the fact that they’re in a better position to fight than the Lannisters are.  

Perhaps Littlefinger’s hoping for a standoff between Cersei and Margaery; whoever wins gets Tommen, the crown, and will fight in the next war? There’s already a serious schism in the Lannister/Tyrell alliance and now that Kevan’s dead the Tyrells have more or less taken over the Small Council, so if they’re going to fight for a queen it will be most likely Margaery than Cersei. It can’t be both of them because despite the problems the Lannsiters and Tyrells are too interlinked for them to be split in deciding which queen they’re fighting for.

Daenerys Targaryen 

I can see Littlefinger’s reasoning behind having her as one of the queens, but that’s really dependent on when this war is going to be and how much Littlefinger knows about Dany’s position. 

Even before the catastrophe in ADWD, Dany had made it clear that she wasn’t planning on making a move to Westeros just yet. She’s essentially a non-issue whose half a world away and not likely to leave anytime soon; so even if he had heard the rumours about her dragons it’s unlikely that Littlefinger saw her as a viable contender. 

Then again George was planning a 5 year gap so maybe the War of the 3 Queens was supposed to be after it? Who knows, but at the moment I can’t take Dany as serious or current threat Westeros and I doubt Littlefinger would put so much dependency on woman he barley knows. 

Sansa Stark

This does make sense, she is Littlefinger’s pawn after all but the issue of timing still comes up. Right now Sansa’s simply Alayne Stone, she has no allies and is virtually powerless and now that winter has come it’s going to be even harder for her to march onto Winterfell. 

Not to mention that his plan to make Sansa queen is dependent on Harry marrying her as well as insuring that the Vale lords will actually support her, and even they do it’s unlikely that they’ll march in winter. The North may be exhausted and considerable weaker than the beginning of the series, but its harsh weather can still be a natural defence against marching armies. 

So Sansa’s on the same boat as Dany; neither of them are in a position to wage war at the moment. 

So all in all the only possible queen is Margaery but even that theory has holes, not to mention that there’s no one for her to fight against. 

anonymous asked:

Hey! Can you talk a little but about how bran might be The Lord of darkness? Or link me to some writing about it? Thanks!

Yeah, for sure. I’m not sure if lord of darkness is the proper term for it, but I can’t remember exactly what the term is. Basically, there’s this idea that “the prince that was promised” will come to Westeros, as a prophesied leader to deliver the kingdoms from darkness. There are some people who believe that the prince is also Azor Ahai reborn (Melisandre believes that Stannis is Azor Ahai, with the sword Lightbringer, and that he will save Westeros). There are even more people who believe that Azor Ahai/the prince who was promised is ALSO one of the three heads of the dragons, which is another theory that Aemon brings up in his delirium right before his death, but basically it means that Dany’s dragons will need three riders (like the original three dragons which took Westeros for the Targaryens). These are all a lot of theories, which basically suggest that there will raise a leader (or a few leaders) which will represent “the good.” They will have to fight someone - and while they will most likely be fighting the others/white walkers, it is also likely that a lord of darkness will rise. Melisandre is always talking about how there is the lord of light and an opposing god of darkness - and people believe that he will take a physical shape in one of the characters. 

Most people believe that Azor Ahai is Jon Snow (due to overwhelming evidence in ADWD) or at least that he will be one of the heads of the dragons. The other possible heads of the dragons that could work with him are Dany, Tyrion, Jorah Mormont and Aegon Targaryen - although you can honestly argue almost anyone into these positions. Which leaves us with the question of who will be the lord of darkness. 

Ideas about Bran are very split, but everyone seems to agree that he will be extremely important in this fight against the dark and the light. Some people believe that he will be “the messiah of Westeros” - that he will come in at the end (no one expects him, after all, most people believe that he is dead) and save the kingdoms from the various things that will bring devastation, such as the Others and the dragons. Although characters like Jon and Dany have good intentions regarding Westeros, it is more than possible that they would do more harm than good (especially after Jon is brought back, at god knows what price) and Bran, who has supernatural powers and the ability to see into the future, is the only one who can save them.

But there’s also the chance that he is the enemy - slowly being turned into the darkness, without his consent. There’s a good deal of evidence of this. Bran has good intentions and I don’t think would ever want to become the lord of darkness but at this point, he might not have a choice. “Darkness will be your cloak, your shield, your mother’s milk” - that’s fairly obvious right there. It is possible that the three eyed crow is the source of evil, or that the children of the forest are reincarnations of the old gods, sent to bring vengeance on those who preach the seven or the lord of light. That’s entirely possible, especially considering how the story has become increasingly a battle of supernatural religious ideologies, as the red god has become more and more prevalent. There’s a chance that Bran is being swayed by the forces of the old gods, or some other kind of darkness possibly involved with Melisandre’s ideology, in to losing his identity as himself. There is the Jojen paste theory, which would definitely lend credence to this idea - once he has forgone his friends, his name, and his home, it would be easy to use his powers for darkness. In this scenario, it is presumably Jon or some other Azor Ahai that stops him from taking control of Westeros. Personally, I like the messiah theory better, especially because I don’t think that the current people vying for the throne would do the kingdoms much good - but we’ll see.