wish they returned to it in a later series

Chronicles of the book re-read: Voyager

Voyager was one of my favourite books in the series the first time I read them, but I found myself oddly apprehensive to re-read it. I’m not quite sure on the impetus for this fear. Perhaps that re-experiencing it with an awareness of the imminent adaptation of the material for season 3 of the show would paint it a different way in my brain? Perhaps just that I had remembered it wrong? This turned out to be partially true: I had forgotten quite how crazy the final third is. But I am delighted to report that overall I still loved Voyager the second time around. I also re-read certain sections multiple times immediately after reading them, which is why this book took me longer than Outlander or Dragonfly In Amber. Yes, I am a ridiculous person.

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ultrasanaposts  asked:

Hi, big fan of your posts. I just saw a documentary or video of the English Royal family and Princess Diana and when it was remarked that Diana was like a brood mare and married more for the fact her blood was more royal than the Windsors I thought of Princess Ursa and then I felt down because"The Search" Ursa was not what I imagined. It made me think it would have been better to have Ursa be discovered dead and have everything read like a mystery of what happened that night, and the conspiracy-

of how Ozai stole the throne from Iroh, the true heir to the throne, and why nobody did anything about it. I mean Diana and Ursa’s situations are so similar, aside from the two-timing husband. Both lived in fear of their spouse and didn’t love him, or their spouse’s family, they were also loving mothers who tried to shelter their children from court politics. I personally do think Ozai loved Ursa in a way, but he loved power more. Would he set up his wife’s death? Idk. I wish for a stronger Ursa, a “People’s Princess”… Sorry for ranting in your ask. Watching the documentary about Princess Diana brought bitter feelings about the Ursa arc due to the similar circumstances…   

What is your opinion about how Ursa was portrayed in ‘The Search’? I find it hard to believe that the woman who said ‘you mess with their babies and they’ll bite you back’ would do something as stupid as claim Zuko’s father wasn’t Ozai just so she could find out if he was reading her letters.

Thank you! <3

These are very good questions, and I have wanted to talk about Ursa’s portrayal in The Search for a while. I have never thought about it, but she is indeed very similar to Princess Diana. My mom used to LOVE Diana, and I have read her biography which was very fascinating. The Search retconned a lot of Ursa’s history and sensationalized everything. I didn’t really like her portrayal in the comics because of this.

This was Ursa’s description from the old Nick website back when Avatar was still airing. I used to love reading all of the descriptions. She was born to the Fire Nation Royal Family as part of her original backstory. She was not a peasant, nor was she related to Avatar Roku.

Here is Ursa’s description from the archived avatar-info from zephyrita’s blog:

Ursa was originally written as a Fire Nation noblewoman who got along very well with Ozai when they were younger. She loved him dearly and her proper lady upbringing made her an ideal future princess. Fire Lord Azulon and the Fire Sages arranged a marriage between Ozai and Ursa due to their strong compatibility. Zuko recalls times his family was “actually happy” before Ozai became mad and abusive.

She seemed to be proper and elegant, but also has obviously been subjected to the same type of brainwashing that all the Fire Nation Royal Family members have been through. She laughed about burning Ba Sing Se to the ground. I cannot imagine a woman who was once a street urchin laughing like that about a war. Clearly she has been sheltered from many of the harsh realities of commoner life.

Zuko said that there was a time when his family was genuinely happy. That may have just been his perspective as a child, but I see no reason to doubt this. There does indeed appear to be a time when Ozai was less cold. Zuko seems to constantly long for the days when his father was more mild and even-tempered. Also from the avatar-info:

Ozai’s thirst for power and control itself probably stemmed from his feelings of inadequacy when compared to his prodigious elder brother and favored son of Azulon, Iroh.

Bryke themselves said that Ursa and Ozai had an arranged marriage and that it wasn’t so bad at first:

RM: Did Ursa and Ozai choose each other or were they an arranged marriage?

MDD: I imagine they are arranged, but we have not talked about it. We have talked in general about the Fire Nation and that arranged marriages would be more common, especially in the royalty.

BK: Also, there was a time when it probably wasn’t such a bad marriage. I think they probably started okay. Certainly better than it ended up.

She may not have been genuinely in love with him, but they were a “good match” and probably got along well in the beginning. After things got more complicated with the court politics and Ozai started getting more overbearing towards the kids, I imagine then Ursa would have started getting more unhappy. She would have tried to shelter her kids from it though, and I certainly found it crazy how she was portrayed in the comics. There is no way that she’d put Zuko in jeopardy like that by playing mind games with Ozai. She said herself that no one messes with her babies.

Zuko seemed to remember his mother as nothing but loving. He was deeply affected by her loss. Zuko obviously had a great deal of admiration for his mother’s courage and bravery. He seemed to be in denial in Zuko Alone, but he did seem to suspect that his grandfather did in fact want him to be sacrificed, causing his mother to step in. I think deep down in his heart he knew, but he didn’t want to believe it. Because of her inner strength, I think her changing her face and losing her memories was so lame. She was entirely devoted to her kids, especially Zuko. I do not believe she would ever want to forget him, no matter how much pain it caused. She may have had hope that one day she might see him again. After all, one day Ozai may be gone and Zuko would be the new Firelord, had he not gotten banished. And Zuko breaks down in tears when he hears she might be alive. I do not believe Ehasz would have wanted their reunion to involve her having a new face.

I do agree that Ozai did have actual feelings for Ursa. I do agree that he loved power more. If he truly loved her he would not have abused her or their kids, but there was something there. This is much different than in the comics. Ozai lingered at the turtleduck pond. He also said to Zuko when he confronted him during the eclipse that:

Ozai: Now I realize that banishment is far too merciful a penalty for treason.

In his own twisted way he thought he was being kind. I think that he probably would have killed her if he thought that he absolutely had to. I think he was losing himself to the power and corruption and would have rationalized his decision to himself.

I think the there were two reasons that nobody did anything after Ozai stole the throne. One is fear. After Azulon died, people had to be suspicious of Ozai, but because Azulon was poisoned with Ursa’s undetectable substance, it looked like he died naturally. No one knew what actually happened and the same might happen to them if they asked too many questions. The second has to do with Iroh. I don’ t think he wanted anything to do with the throne after everything he went through with Lu Ten. He was more concerned with becoming a better person, which is why he went with Zuko after he was banished. He just wanted to help Zuko, which he was unable to do for his own son.

Zuko had many visions during his fever experience, but the vision of his mother did have a particularly strong effect on him. He witnessed the most love and compassion from her while he was in the palace, and he was able to go to her for comfort more than anyone else during his childhood. He may resemble Ozai, but he also retained some of the more “feminine” traits from his mother. He is naturally more soft-hearted as well and this probably gotten him labelled “weak” growing up. Zhao seemed to have contempt for Zuko even before he was banished. He was smiling while Zuko was getting scarred, after all.

One more thing from the avatar-info:

Ursa was supposed to appear in Book Four but the entire season ended up being scrapped after Paramount bought the rights to create a three-season trilogy. They later decided to have her return in the Avatar finale but she was cut out at the request of Bryan Konietzko.

I wish we could have seen what Ehasz had planned for Ursa, since Zuko was supposed to look for her while Katara acted as his confidante. I think they would have been able to reunite and I think the scenario would have played out far differently under Ehasz. It is a shame that we only got Bryke’s vision for the series after the cartoon.

Interview with Mads published on DigitalSpy.com 13th June 2016

Mads Mikkelsen wants Hannibal back - and as a full TV series: “It’s not a film thing”
​"It’s not something you can do in an hour-and-a-half,“ he says of a possible continuation.

BY ROSIE FLETCHER AND MORGAN JEFFERY

Hannibal fans are still hoping and wishing for a revival - but if the series returns, Mads Mikkelsen won’t settle for any half-measures.

Speaking to Digital Spy to promote his new movie - the Danish black comedy Men & Chicken - Mikkelsen said that a one-off movie would not be satisfying… for him or the fans.

“I won’t say no to anything but I think the TV medium for the story of Hannibal works so well,” he said. “It’s not a film thing - it’s not something you can do in an hour-and-a-half. Because of the time we had, we could go slowly, reveal our ghosts in the closets later on… and I prefer that, I thinks that’s very interesting and dramatic to watch. Sure, it would be easy enough to make an interesting film but I think the medium we have chosen was perfect for what we wanted to do.”

Mikkelsen - who won legions of fans for his portrayal of the suave, psychotic Hannibal Lecter - insisted he would “do everything in [his] power” to be part of any revival.

“This is a show we cannot do without [showrunner] Bryan Fuller - he’s the mastermind behind the whole thing, he’s a genius. If he one day says, ‘Hey guys, I’ve found a TV channel that wants to pick it up and I’m ready to go’, I’m sure that we would do everything in our power to be part of the show as well, we all enjoyed it tremendously. We’ll see.”

Hannibal was axed by NBC after three seasons, with series finale ‘The Wrath of the Lamb’, leaving the fate of both Hannibal and Will Graham (Hugh Dancy) up in the air.

But Mikkelsen insisted that, if there is no revival, then he is satisfied with how the show ended.

“You can always argue that we had in the back of our minds a full fourth season that goes really ballistic, but Bryan has always been smart enough to end his seasons where it might be the last, so I would be satisfied, yes.”

The final episode aired in August 2015, but fan passion for Hannibal hasn’t cooled in the interim - last month, the series was voted the best TV drama of the 21st century by Digital Spy readers.

“That makes me very happy!” Mikkelsen beamed. “We were all very pleased with what we did, we are all very proud of it, we thought it was something that was radical and interesting. Unfortunately we didn’t have the fourth season so I’m very pleased to hear it’s been voted up there!”