I think you are bit biased if you think Ishida wants to show humans are the evil ones. Why did you not say the same thing when ghouls treated humans like nothing more than food and did not care they were selling innocent people? so why should humans care about them if ghouls see them as nothing more than food? that is the same like expecting a cow to feel bad for humans even though we eat them
or when big mum abused Juzou and they made him a killer for fun?
I’ve kind of repeatedly started to answer this one, and then erased my response and circled back around a few times. Ultimately, it seems like you missed didn’t understand my point or even what was being discussed at the time.
Which, please remember, was theorizing on Furuta’s actions and Ishida’s intentions in repeatedly showing humans as fickle and casually cruel while DENYING these traits. Humanity in the universe of Tokyo Ghoul, as in the real world, is often uncomfortable with our own capacity for evil.
This has nothing to do with ghouls, and their cruelty in the series. That is a separate issue, in particular as it relates to Perceived/Claimed Morality vs Reality. Humans in the series claim themselves to be good and moral, to be acting on the side of right……while being just as capable of cruelty as the “monsters” of the series.
Beyond that, Humanity in the series has been portrayed as very casual in its cruelty and fickle as hell. Over the course of :Re, we have seen how easily swayed and ever-changing public opinion about ghouls can be. This hypocrisy is probably best summarized in Koori Ui, someone who frames himself as a “Hero of Justice” and worried about that perception of righteousness. He berates Kijima for posting the torture video online, where the public could view it and react to it in horror…….all while knowing deep down that Investigators, Interrogators, and Researchers do that and worse on a daily basis.
Ultimately, people were upset not because of what was done to a ghoul….but because they had to see it. It didn’t suit the pretty narrative of Investigators as heroes, seeing their true brutality.
Remember, this public latched onto the frenzy of Sen Takatsuki’s press release and novel. They were fascinated by the chance to read something written by a ghoul, from the point of view of a ghoul. And for a time, there were protests and demonstrations and interest in Ghoul Rights.
But besides a few devoted groups…….it fizzled out because it was simply a fad. Most of humanity moved on, and went from beginning to realize ghouls were PEOPLE……to cheering for Furuta as he stands on a pile of mangled corpses.
We also have numerous stories and examples within the series of casual human cruelty.
Chie Hori is utterly detached from the suffering she witnesses, capable of watching Tsukiyama kill without being disturbed.
The nurse abused her elderly patients, when no one was looking. When her secret was at risk of being exposed, she resorted to murder and thanked Tsukiyama for helping her get ahead in life.
Kaneki’s mother physically abused him.
Kaneki’s aunt took advantage of her own sister, selfishly using her for financial gain until it KILLED HER. She and her family then subjected Kaneki to years of emotional abuse for the crime of existing.
In every single novel story that involves a human group, there is cruelty and bullying. Yoriko is bullied at school by the other girls, for being praised by a popular boy. Kimi’s “friends” mocked her behind her back, and abandoned her. Kaneki’s peers bullied him, with only Hide caring about him. In Hinami’s first story, she gets dragged off by a group of teen boys that are hinted to have been intending to MOLEST HER.
Tokage went from torturing ghoul prisoners, to killing animals and abusing his students.
Mutsuki’s father was horrifyingly abusive.
While Tokyo Ghoul typically portrays ghouls as being cruel in these wildly over-the-top ways……humanity is instead generally portrayed as cruel through more common, casual actions. Through ignoring or bullying others, through abusing relatives, for betraying each other, and alternately wanting the CCG to take care of ghouls while not forcing them to confront what this ACTUALLY involves.
Many creators throughout history of struggled with the issue of Human Cruelty, and the horrors of the Mob.
It isn’t that ghouls are innocent, and humans are evil. It’s just interesting to me how Ishida chooses to portray their differences in terms of relating to their own morality. Most ghouls don’t make excuses for themselves, they recognize how fucked up the world is and many have deep-buried feelings of unease about themselves. They have no illusions about being good and moral and righteous. And many of their great cruelties (the Restaurant, the Auction) are imitations of things humans have done to each other.
In contrast, humanity as a whole tends to believe itself without fault. They don’t acknowledge how they contribute to the cycle, and they justify even the most extreme actions.
In this arc, we are seeing this brought to its most extreme, with Furuta pushing the CCG further and further. But we know that what he is REALLY doing is simply bringing out what was already there. He’s tearing away the pretty cover, and revealing the ugliness underneath.