Who do you think is THE main character of Baccano?
Ooh, I love this question! And I love thinking about it.
The thing about main characters is that they depend on the central issue of the story. In a story with multiple plot threads, which one ties it all together? And which character is central to that? Which character most contributes to the expression of the central theme? And sometimes the answer to those questions is not always clear. Sometimes there is no answer at all.
fight me the only character development that chicken shit has had is wOW I SHOULDNT DO SHIT THAT FUCKS UP WITH TIME
THESE ARE FIGHTING WORDS ANON
Okay but in all seriousness, get ready for me to explain why Marty IS in fact a flawed and developed character, because I will defend his character to the grave son.
Marty has a very complex sense of pride. He lets people provoke him into fighting easily, but has little confidence to go through with it when it comes time to actually fight. Most people just shrug this off seeing that’s played for laughs because of how short mjf is, but it could be that he’s actually a pretty insecure person. He even talks in the beginning of the first film about how afraid he is of being rejected. This fear of rejection or appearing weak controls many parts of his life (obviously) when he’s called “chicken”, or when people make a statement about him being afraid of things, etc. it is shown to affect his future very negatively. He gets into the car crash, gets fired, and ends up in an unhappy marriage because of this fear. We see this in Part II as Jennifer doesn’t come home for “hours” (possibly implying that she’s having an affair??) and when Lorraine claims “I think the only reason your mother married Marty was because she felt sorry for him.” when talking to Marlene (assuming she’s referring to the accident).
Another interesting thing about this is that Marty was actually bullied when he was younger (as is stated in the official comics), so this actually adds more to why Marty would feel the need to fight everyone to “prove he isn’t chicken”. I know a lot of people are very annoyed by the whole “chicken” thing, and like to ignore it for the most part, but honestly it says a lot about Marty.
BONUS POINT: When Marty’s great-great (?) grandfather is talking about who Marty was named after (the original Martin Mcfly) he states that the original Martin McFly met a deadly fate for the same fear. There’s also a LOT of other factors (the blank tombstone, the coffin-fitting, etc) in Part III which implies that Marty could have met a similar fate had he not been careful or taken Doc’s advice into consideration. Hell, it even did end up with him getting into a car accident, he just got lucky and suffered minor injuries.
Another notable flaw is his uh..greediness (??) okay, I admit that’s not the best word for it, but he is a bit obsessed with money. Some prime examples include him wanting to use the sports almanac to make money placing bets for personal gain, and him saying to Doc in Part II, “I know I make it big, but what do I become like a rich rock star?” (that’s not to say he’s not still passionate about his music, but yes the whole ‘rich rock star’ thing implies he’s pretty concerned with being wealthy as well). This included with well..the entire ENDING of Part I contribute to how highly he places money and material possessions. He even thinks higher of his parents/family members for being more rich and successful then their original 1985 timeline counterparts. A part of the happy ending in Part I even consists of him getting the expensive truck he wanted at the beginning of the film. There are other little things in the trilogy that contribute to this (finding out he lives in Hilldale, all the fancy shit in his future house, etc.) He clearly does not take it as far as Biff does in the 1985A timeline, and he’s definitely not going to let anyone else suffer for his own desire to be rich (hence him burning the sports almanac at the end of Part II, which could also be considered part of his character development).
And as for your point about his character development only consisting of understanding the consequences of time travel, I think this general “don’t mess with the space time continuum” moral has less to do with Marty and more to do with an overall theme of the movie. If anything, Doc is much more concerned about the consequences of time travel. BUT WE’RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT MARTY.
Marty, by the end of the third movie, actually refuses to fight Biff’s great great grandfather (??) and claims “I don’t care what Tannen thinks, and I don’t care what anybody else thinks either!”, maybe you didn’t see this as that big of a statement, but this was probably a big breakthrough for him, as he has not said no to a fight any other time in the entire trilogy (and possibly not for years before the events of the trilogy).
I see all of this as GREAT, but still subtle character development. Maybe it isn’t as huge as some other larger character-developments, but I do think Marty’s character is really-well written. Just because his flaws aren’t huge and dramatic, and don’t take up a huge portion of the story, doesn’t mean they’re not there.
Anyways sorry for rambling, I do see your point and I get why at first glance it seems like Marty doesn’t learn anything, but he in fact DOES, it’s just pushed to the side in order to compensate for the story.
I also tend to relate to his character flaws so maybe it’s just easier for me to see them personally, whereas many people probably don’t see it because they think he has unrealistic tendencies, and don’t personally relate to him. But I rest my case, Marty is a developed character who learns lessons, and has flaws. You just need to look a little closer.
Bellamy and Clarke fall through a sheet of ice into a cave, where they have to find a way out since where they were drowned out their distress signals for help. Without the right equipment, little food, and temperatures below freezing it was inevitable they would die fairly quick. They need to work together to survive before the mountain takes them like it has the others before them.
So maybe Uthvir gets a real kick out of baiting Thenuvin? It’s like the UST version of chicken, especially when Thenuvin calls them out on it, and Uthvir would be all, hunters never back down COME AT ME BRO. And then disappointing sex would be had.