What I find the most interesting about berena is how Bernie is the one with experience out of the two of them, no matter how short-lived or long-lived (we have no idea) her relationship with Alex was. And so Bernie left her husband knowing that women were in her future. Like we as the audience were supposed to go “she’s the one that likes women”.
Meanwhile Serena Wendy Campbell who has never even been to Stepney is asking Bernie to call her as soon as she’s met her practically, asking her out for drinks, asking to buy her another shot when she sees her drinking, wondering if she minds if she joins in on Bernie’s drinks all around, arm wrestling with her… like Serena is so SO fucking gay for Bernie that she doesn’t even stop and question it ahead of time. That the second Bernie kisses her, she’s like “holy shit I’m so here for this” and kisses back like… Jesus. That didn’t take much wooing.
Basically Serena was just waiting for her soulmate to pop up and the second she saw Bernie she was like “I choose you.”
however dramatic you think you are, you’ll never be as dramatic as serena wendy campbell, who carried two deckchairs, a table and a bottle of shiraz up to the roof of a hospital just so she could share an angsty gay moment with her girlfriend
Holby city got 99 problems but “shippers boycotting” ain’t one of them.....
high tea/high shade ahead>
Okay so the news that Holby city has currently lost roughly 2 million viewers is hardly surprising. The lack of coherency in the story lines, attention to detail, characterisation, story line progression and follow up is a huge problem for the show right now. Across the board, for every single characterEVERY SINGLE CHARACTER AND SHIP!! THE SHOW HAS PROBLEMS AND IT ISN’T BERENA FANS TUNING OFF PUTTING IT IN JEOPARDY M’KAY…
I don’t have twitter but I have just read the most ridiculous and wildly misinformed comments and I wanted to address them a little. For anyone who thinks that the loss in viewership is down to Berena fans suddenly switching off, then I’m sorry but I fail to see the logic in that. The influx of berena fans will in no way match the deficit..BECAUSE 2 MILLION SHIPPERS DIDN’T JUST DECIDE TO SWITCH OFF IN SALTY BITTERNESS, it’s a general loss of interest because the show has lot the plot. Literally. Plot lines being picked up and dropped at will. No nuance or attention to detail, just a heavy handed mess of contrived “shock” moments that do not lend themselves to further character development. Things happen, then they’re dropped and all but forgotten. This is the shows biggest problem, and “loyal, long time” viewer or not surely that’s plain to see. Blaming “short stay” fans who are purely in it for any one ship/character in easy, and deluded.
I’m a hardcore Jemma Redgrave fan (who knew??) and I’ve tuned in for fucking months of literally nothing but filler scenes. Remember when Bernie Wolfe was a fully-realised character with her own story lines? me neither. But I’ve stuck in there, losing my shit over two minutes of screen time and practically having a hernia over things like The Redgrave speaking french and straddling a bar stool. I watched Serena’s character descend into a shell of herself, through a conceited and extremely heavy handed story line. I watched Catherine Russell do masterful work with pitiful material. So don’t come at any of us for being the problem. Because I think we should get a fucking award for hanging in there at all..the minute our ship became canon it all fell to hell. We stuck with it and rejoiced over things like hand holds and hugs which is pretty fucking sad when you think about all the kissing and validation of affection we see the hetero ships share. So no, not for a minute will I listen to any fucking argument that points the finger at berena fans being a problem in the ratings drop. I’ve seen the argument “no one character or ship is bigger than the show” well yes that works both ways and you can’t suddenly attribute the failures of something on any one character/ship, when you attribute none of the successes to it either.
Holby’s fuck ups/plot drops in a brief summary..
Fletch almost died. Then nothing until he almost died again and miraculously recovered.
Sacha was so depressed/ kleptomania. Nothing since? how the fuck is he?
Jasmine introduced only to have literally nothing to do with her sister. Such an opportunity to explore both characters and their relationship wasted. Until the end ofc when they killed Jasmine off after pummelling her with crap after crap for a year. Nice one.
Zosia killed that ceo dude who was so loathsome I can’t even remember his name..how was she after that?
Zosia had literally nothing to do with the engagement story line
WHY THE FUCK IS RAFF IN KELLER AND WHY IS HE STILL THERE?!
Cameron and Morven are they even a thing?
Why does Cameron hardly share a scene with his mum?
Does Bernie remember she’s madly in love with Serena?
DOES ANYONE REMEMBER THEY USED TO WORK WITH SERENA WENDY CAMPBELL?
Bernie being ignored through practically all of Serena’s grief storyline even though she’s her “partner”
OLLIE ON AUU/ WHERE IS HE?
Essie and Raf, what’s happening? I mean what.is.happening.
Influx of new characters when they’re barely providing material for the ones they have.
Serena’s daughter died off screen and the official twitter account had to literally tweet to confirm her death.
No crossover or carry over of characters. The wards could basically be kindgoms in westoros for how apart we’re expected to believe they are. Mo’s leaving do is like one of the only exceptions of them having cross-ward socialising.
THEY RELY ON THE “BIG MOMENTS/SHOCK SHOCK VALUE” THEN DROP IT. But they need to create story lines that’ll run for long enough for the viewers to be invested and actually care.
The list in endless and I’ll hold my hands up and say there’s so much i don’t know/remember long-term wise, so I’m sure people could add to this list but let’s just accept THAT THE SHOW GOT PROBLEMS ACROSS THE FUCKING BOARD and to suggest it’s down to one group of fans/shippers isn’t only misinformed, it’s pretty fucking hurtful.
HOLD THE PRODUCERS ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR FUCK UPS AND DON’T PLACE BLAME ON THE FANS BECAUSE WE ALL DESERVE BETTER. LONG TERM FANS/NEW FANS, ZOLLIE/BERENA/OTHER SHIPPERS. NO FINGERS SHOULD BE POINTED AT FANS BUT AT THE SHOW RUNNERS CAUSE IF YOU DON’T CREATE A SHOW WHICH PAYS SERVICE TO THE CORE CHARACTERS THEN YOU’RE FUCKED BECAUSE PEOPLE STOP CARING.
* these are all my opinions and I’m not claiming to be the voice for anyone but honestly as a berena fan I just wanted to put my thoughts out there and comment on something I wildly disagree with. Now I’m off for a cornetto in the sun, I’ve earned the calories. Happy Saturday. *
Headcanon that over the Campwolfe family Christmas when everyone was slightly tipsy (and getting on with one another) they somehow got to talking about celebs or whatever and that is how Serena Wendy Campbell realised that she’s actually pretty Gay™ for Kate Moss. (Bernie feels smug that she’s beat Kate Moss to Serena Campbell. And buys Serena the Kate Moss/Hot Women 2017 calendar in the January sales)
general opinion: fall in a hole and die | don’t like them | eh | they’re fine I guess | like them! | love them | actual love of my life hotness level: get away from me | meh | neutral | theoretically hot but not my type | pretty hot | gorgeous! | 10/10 would bang hogwarts house: gryffindor | slytherin | ravenclaw | hufflepuff best quality: Bernie is the ultimate protector. She wants so badly to take care of those she loves, to keep them safe, even if it’s to her own detriment. worst quality: The huge quantity of guilt she takes onto herself for literally every bad that’s ever happened. Also her tendency to flee like a scared bunny from the tough emotional stuff. ship them with: Serena Wendy Campbell for ever and ever, amen! brotp them with: Dom and Fletch for sure. Frenemies with Ric. needs to stay away from: Sadness and death, my poor baby :( misc. thoughts: Bernie is such an interesting character and the development she’s shown over her time at Holby has been incredible to watch. i tend to identify with her pretty strongly, because I too am a hot mess who’s completely in love with Serena Campbell. ;)