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Otto Skorzeny and The Paladin Group

If any real life historical figure could be a Bond villain, Otto Skorzeny would definitely be a leading candidate. A former Nazi SS commando, stalwart fascist, and Cold War soldier of fortune, Skorzeny was the stereotypical cloak and dagger “bad guy” from any dime store spy novel, complete with a gnarly facial scar. Seriously, he could be a villain straight off of “The Blacklist”. During World War II he was an SS colonel, commando leader, and Hitler’s favorite soldier. He was best known for the daring rescue mission of Italian dictator Benito Mussolini, who was captured by Allied forces after the surrender of Italy.  He also commanded a special infiltration unit composed of English speaking German soldiers who wore American uniforms and infiltrated American units behind enemy lines. Throughout the war Skorzeny would become one of Germany’s most highly decorated soldiers, participating in and commanding several commando missions.

After World War II Skorzeny was prosecuted for war crimes, but was released when British MI6 decided not to use their evidence against him as it would expose their intelligence networks.  A man without official citizenship with any country, he first lived in Ireland, then Spain after gaining the support of Spanish dictator Francisco Franco. He was eventually granted a passport by his home country, Austria, and Spain, but Skorzeny wasn’t the sort of man who needed a passport to travel across the world. In the late 1940’s and early 1950’s he was a member of ODESSA, a clandestine group which smuggled ex-Nazi’s out of Europe to avoid war crime tribunals.  He founded a large fascist political network in Spain, which printed and destributed fascist propaganda and created branch organizations throughout Europe and Latin America.  He also served as advisor to Argentinian President Juan Peron and bodyguard to his wife Eva.

In the early 1950’s Skorzeny began to organize a mercenary group mostly composed of German SS, Gestapo, and Wehrmacht veterans.  The goal of the group was to support fascist regimes and right wing extremist movements across the globe. This was mostly in the form of training, especially guerilla groups, but also by providing crack commando troops and boots on the ground. In 1960 his mercenary group was officially incorporated as “The Paladin Group”, co-founded by a rogue American CIA Special Operations officer and ODESSA member named Col. James Sanders. If there was a conflict that occured in Europe, Africa, Latin America, or Asia during the 1950’s to mid 1970’s, you can bet your bottom dollar The Paladin Group (or it’s nameless predecessor organization) had some role in it. The roots of The Paladin Group can be traced back to 1952 when Skorzeny was recruited by CIA man and former WWII German General Reinhard Gehlen for operations in Egypt. At the time Egypt’s monarch, King Farouk (CIA codename “Fat Fucker”) had been overthrown in a military coup, and Egypt was led by President Gen. Muhammed Naguib.  Naguib used Skorzeny and his men to train the newly modernized Egyptian Army and various commando units in preparation for a possible plan to oust British forces from the Suez Canal. Skorzeny would later become advisor to Naguib’s successor, President Gamal Abdel Nasser.

For the most part, The Paladin Group supported fascist/dictatorial regimes or right wing extremist guerilla/partisan movements and vehemently opposed left wing or communist movements.  However, Skorzeny often took jobs that either suited his needs or put a lot of cash in his wallet. A perfect example would be in the mid 1950’s when he was contracted by both the Israeli’s and Palestinians.  Among his most famous (or infamous) clients was PLO leader Yassir Arafat, and Skorzeny planned Palestinian raids into the Gaza Strip in 1953 and 1954.

Throughout the 60’s The Paladin Group served a wide variety of clients. The Spanish Government hired them to fight a clandestine war against the Basque Nationalist Group ETA, they were hired by the South African Bureau of State Security, there were even rumors in the Soviet KGB that Skorzeny was training Green Berets for secret operations in Cambodia and Thailand. One of Skorzeny’s biggest clients was the Libyan dictator Muammar Gaddaffi, who hired The Paladin Group to help plan and execute the coup which put Gaddaffi in power, then to train the Libyan Army.

Between 1967 and 1974 The Paladin Group also took part in the organizing and execution of a series of military coups in Greece, leading to a civil war in which the Greek monarch, King Constantine II, was ousted from power and replaced with a military dictatorship.

The Paladin Group came to an end in 1975 with two major events.  First, Otto Skorzeny died of lung cancer.  Second, Francisco Franco likewise passed away.  With Franco gone a new democratic government came to power, one which had little tolerance for fascist organizations.  The Paladin Group was expelled from Spain.  Without a home and the leadership of Skorzeny, The Paladin Group was disbanded.  Peashooter hopes that producers make a retro James Bond movie with Otto Skorzeny as the bad guy. That would be so awesome!

anonymous asked:

What is your honest proposal for peace in the Middle East and Palestine?

Democratic One State Solution.

Every other problem will sort itself out after that.

Zionists should consider themselves lucky that nobody is talking about war crimes tribunals, but we need to be honest about what is reasonable.

anonymous asked:

You mentioned the Cold War in relation to the origins of the damaging myth of "reprogramming torture." Is that where the trope of sleeper agents and stuff comes from? The aspect of a sleeper agent (ESP one created from "reprogramming") isn't realistic then, right? Are other kinds of things, like the hijacking from the hunger games (where Peeta is tortured and "programmed" via fear to attack Katniss on sight) realistic?

I’ve never read or watched The Hunger Games so I’m not sure I understand this cultural reference. And I’m honestly not entirely sure where the idea of ‘sleeper agents’ comes from although I know a lot of people seemed to think they were real during the Cold War.

I think the best way for me to tackle this might be to step back from all the specific incidents and terms in your ask, because it seems like you’re driving at a more general question about what’s possible and what isn’t. So I’ll start simple and then talk a little bit more about the tropes connected with these sorts of ideas about torture.

1)      People can’t be forced to change their ideals.

2)      Torture can’t remove or change specific/known memories.

3)      Victims can not be put under any long term compulsion to act in particular ways.

4)      The effects of torture can not be accurately predicted.

5)      The effects of torture can not be controlled by the torturer.

What all of this means is that anything which relies on the idea that a torturer ultimately controls how a victims acts, thinks, feels or remembers is wrong. The variation between individuals is so great that you really just can’t predict anything useful.

Let’s go with a quick example here, using two of the cases from A Darkling Plain which is interviews with people who survived traumatic events varying from the Armenian genocide (the woman interviewed was possibly the last living survivor) to Idi Amin. Now the focus of this book is how people respond to trauma and how they ‘kept their humanity’.

Two women, ‘Sara’ and ‘Kimberley’ talk about growing up under the Khmer Rogue. They must have been about the same age and of similar social standing.

Sara describes feelings of frustration, anger and hatred. She talks about feeling that the War Crime Tribunals were a farce and that the perpetrators, the communists, who caused her and her family so much suffering, should be starved and tortured and killed. ‘Even Stevens’, she says.

Kimberley in contrast barely talks about the perpetrators. She talks about family and the importance of a loving supportive family. She describes how the people she loved kept her alive and helped each other recover. She talks about trauma and sadness and the brutality of the time but gives no indication of anger or hate.

These are responses to broadly speaking the same trauma.

And the people behind that trauma were aiming to create a generation of young people that believed in the ideals of the Khmer Rogue, that would act in ways the party saw as ‘good’ and would preferably forget all about family and religion and capitalism. Sara and Kimberley showcase two completely different forms of failure for them.

Part of my point here is that torturers can do exactly the same thing to different victims and get polar opposite responses. Even when the victims are (on paper at least) very similar.

And since they can’t really predict or control the way victims respond in the short term there’s no way for them to be able to predict or control how victims respond in the long term.

They could (if they bothered to read the literature) broadly predict that their victims might develop PTSD or depression or anxiety. But there’s no guarantee any one victim would get those three possible symptoms rather than say hypervigilance and pronounced learning difficulties. If you can’t predict how someone will respond then, well the idea of controlling them is a little ludicrous isn’t it?

In the same vein we know torture usually causes problems with recent memory, but there’s no way to predict which memories would be affected. There’s also no way to predict how those memories would be affected. We know what the common problems are (essentially losing small chunks of recent memory surrounding trauma and inaccuracies in memories of trauma) but there’s no way to say which problems will be most prominent.

And well then we come back to the central point that torture can not forcibly change someone’s mind. Ever.

The character you mention Peeta? If they were tortured by this Katniss then fear is a possible response as is attacking them. But it’s only one of about a dozen possible responses which also include, running away, having a panic attack (this was a torturers response to unexpectedly seeing a former victim as reported by Fanon), attempting suicide (the response of the victim in the previously mentioned case), or simply not recognising him at all.

There’s no way to predict which of these responses is more likely. At all. Torture is ridiculously imprecise, which (again) makes the idea of using it as a tool to control people preposterous.

And if it can’t be used to predict or control someone in the very short term (such as Peeta’s trauma-response to Katniss) then the idea of it controlling a victim years or decades later to trigger some kind of surprise attack is even more bizarre and even more out of touch with reality.

These tropes are wrong and I believe they are ultimately harmful to victims because they essentially say that victims are dangerous, that being tortured makes them violent and that being tortured makes them disloyal to their ideals. They say that torture victims can’t be trusted, that their loyalties should be questioned and that they can be expected to attack their friends.

That is a pretty shitty thing to suggest about people who are generally already: less likely to get any form of justice, more likely to be isolated by their community, less likely to receive medical treatment and more likely to be disabled. It is an attack on a group of people who are already profoundly marginalised.

I hope the answers your question. :)


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Yeah. That Obikin timetravel AU. Not edited.

Suffer, Obi, suffer. And you too, @albaparthenicevelut @tomatosoupful @writegowrite and whoever wanted this to exist.

No, this isn’t the porn part yet.

The ship entered the night cycle. Obi-Wan excused himself to his cabin. It was the first time he had spoken up ever since Qui-Gon brought him – perhaps dragged was a better term – to the ship. Anakin had to force himself to focus on the steering rather than run after Obi-Wan.

The countless blue and purple bruises, the half-healed burns, the awful blaster wound on Obi-Wan’S left hand, the scars crossing his back and front. They were burned into Anakin’s memory like a brand ever since he met him in the hospital.

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Paul Rusesabagina sheltered 1268 Tutsi and Hutu refugees at the Milles Collines Hotel in Kigali. Paul and Tatiana now live in Belgium with their children, Roger, Diane, Lys, Tresor and their adopted nieces Anais and Carine.Tatiana’s brother Thomas and his wife Fedens were never found. In 2002, General Augustin Bizimungu was captured in Angola and transported to the U.N. War Crimes Tribunal in Tanzania. At the same tribunal the Interhamwe leader George Rutuganda was sentenced to life in prison.The genocide ended in July 1994, when the Tutsi rebels drove the Hutu army and the Interhamwe militia across the border into the Congo. Title card: They left behind almost a million corpses.

A Chinese American’s Thoughts on Mulan Casting and Dreamcasts

TFW people “don’t care about Mulan’s actress as long as she’s Asian” and cast George Takei as the Emperor of China in their dreamcasts for Disney’s live-action Mulan…-___- I’ve seen plenty of declarations that there should be no white people in a film adaptation of a Chinese tale. However, in our casting discussions, we need to go beyond the basics into cultural, political, and interethnic understandings against white feminism, nativism, and ethnocentrism. So in the light of these comments, two notes in Asian/Chinese intercultural competency:

1. It’s Disney, so non-Sino, and mono- and multi-ethnic casting is expected. Of course, there is further dialogue on the merits of mono- and multi-ethnic casting and what constitutes “Sino”but overall—why not? In the spirit of interethnic solidarity, I support more opportunities for Asian actors in the U.S. and worldwide.

But FYI: Casting someone who isn’t Chinese in the role of the Chinese heroine Mulan in a Chinese story is completely illogical and disrespectful.

George Takei and other Japanese actors are cool and all, but casting them as the Emperor of China, Mulan’s father, and possibly Shang is completely and utterly unacceptable and reflects a lack of basic understanding of East Asian relations and power dynamics through history. It’s not anti-Japanese sentiment so much as cultural respect given the history, especially after WW2 and the Japanese administration’s historical revisionist actions under Prime Minister Shinzo Abe.

This is the flipside to the justified Japanese uproar over Memoirs of a Geisha casting a Chinese actress in a role that should have gone to a Japanese woman. Now imagine the Chinese uproar if a Japanese actor was cast as the Chinese Emperor of all characters. Also note that the Chinese is quickly becoming the biggest source of Disney’s profit in international film markets, and how that would impact reviews.

Suggested further reading: Rape of Nanking/Nanjing, Japanese war crimes, Nanjing War Crimes Tribunal, Second Sino-Japanese War, Manchukuo, Yasukuni Shrine, Senkaku/Diaoyu Islands, Taiwan

2. Claiming that Mulan is “trans” is not ~open-minded, diverse cultural exchange~ but downright appropriation and disrespect to the Chinese story and trans people IRL. Support trans representation, but not at the expense of using Western standards to judge and appropriate a different culture’s legend.

Mulan is not trans and does not identify as a trans man, even in the appropriative Disney adaptation. Aside from women dressing up as men being a common trope in Chinese literature, the entire point of Mulan’s storyline was to save her father and bring honor to her family, not to exercise her non-existent trans identity or to even subvert gender roles (which just came by way of her mission). So how about we not disrespect trans rights by engaging in white feminism, nativism, and ethnocentrism in disrespecting another culture and simply doing some easy reading?

anonymous asked:

Wait so because DNC made a bad choice, you were ok with letting Trump win (and allowing Republicans to take over the other two branches)? Because that’s why people are about to lose their healthcare (flawed as it is) for something a lot worse...

No, I want to get rid of the leadership of both parties and have them be put on trial in front of a people’s court (or an international war crimes tribunal, where applicable) for their crimes.

I don’t think that, in the words of Marx a system where “The oppressed are allowed once every few years to decide which particular representatives of the oppressing class are to represent and repress them.” is either real democracy or anything likely to result in the end of any oppression.

Only in very, very rare moments can electoral politics ever be anything other than a bandaid, and those require a radical push anyways.

But insisting that leftists who saw themselves and their families were directly hurt by domestic polices of a Democratic candidate (though often not as much as those hurt by the foreign policies, including but not limited to war crimes, imperialism, coups, racial cleansing) are who are really to blame for the rise of a racist fascist candidate and not the Clintons who were the backers of both racist prison policies and welfare reform and who were good friends with Trump until very recently is fucking clueless, regressive, and some scapegoating bullshit.  

The fact is without the things set up by or openly supported by the Democrats, the Republicans wouldn’t be able to do the vast majority of this shit.  Because when push comes to shove the white supremacist ruling class of an imperialist capitalist power is just going to keep doing this shit because it benefits them, until they are actually stopped in a real concrete way.  And that doesn’t involve demanding support for war criminal racists who hate the poor.

Bosnia: thousands mark 22 years since Srebrenica massacre

SREBRENICA, Bosnia — Tens of thousands of people converged on Srebrenica Tuesday for a funeral for dozens of newly identified victims of the 1995 massacre in the Bosnian town.

Remains of 71 Muslim Bosniak victims, including seven juvenile boys and a woman, were buried at the memorial cemetery on the 22nd anniversary of the crime. They were laid to rest next to over 6,000 other Srebrenica victims found previously in mass graves. The youngest victim buried this year was 15, the oldest was 72.

Adela Efendic came to Srebrenica to bury the remains of her father, Senaid.

“I was 20-day-old baby when he was killed. I have no words to explain how it feels to bury the father you have never met,” Efendic said. “You imagine what kind of a person he might have been, but that is all you have.”

More than 8,000 Bosniak men and boys perished in 10 days of slaughter after Srebrenica was overrun by Bosnian Serb forces on July 11, 1995. It is the only episode of Bosnia’s fratricidal 1992-95 war to be defined as genocide by two U.N. courts.

Serbs hastily disposed of the victims’ bodies in several large pits, then dug them up again and scattered the remains over the nearly 100 smaller mass graves and hidden burial sites around the town.

Every year forensic experts identify newly found remains through DNA analysis before reburial.

Most coffins are lowered into their graves by strangers, because all male members of the victims’ families had often been killed.

“I was looking for him for 20 years…they found him in a garbage dump last December,” Emina Salkic said through tears, hugging the coffin of her brother Munib. He was 16 when he was killed.

Srebrenica was besieged by Serb forces for years before it fell. It was declared a U.N. “safe haven” for civilians in 1993, but a Security Council mission that visited shortly afterward described the town as “an open jail” where a “slow-motion process of genocide” was in effect.

When Serb forces led by Gen. Ratko Mladic broke through two years later, Srebrenica’s terrified Muslim Bosniak population rushed to the U.N. compound hoping that Dutch U.N. peacekeepers would protect them. But the outgunned peacekeepers watched helplessly as Mladic’s troops separated out men and boys for execution and sent the women and girls to Bosnian government-held territory.

An appeals court in The Hague ruled this month that the Dutch government was partially liable in the deaths of more than 300 people who were turned away from the compound.

Mladic is now on trial before a U.N. war crimes tribunal, but many Bosnian Serbs, including political leaders, continue to deny that the slaughter constituted genocide.

“We are again calling on Serbs and their political and intellectual elites to find courage to face the truth and stop denying genocide,” Bakir Izetbegovic, Bosniak member of Bosnia’s tripartite presidency, said in his address to the mourners.

Lars-Gunnar Wigemark, the head of the EU delegation to Bosnia, said that remembering what happened in Srebrenica was “the common duty of us as Europeans,” especially as we live “in a world where facts and truth are being manipulated.”


Amel Emric in Srebrenica contributed

Sabina Niksic, The Associated Press

Who to iron kills iron to die

General Hisao Tani, the man who oversaw the Nanking Massacre, was executed on 26 April 1947 after being found guilty of war crimes by the war tribunal set up by Chiang Kai-shek. Poetically, at least in the eyes of the tribunal, Hisao Tani’s executioner was a Chinese veteran who survived the Battle of Nanking.

mayisgrey  asked:

Earnest question--What do you think an appropriate response would have been for Israel to the Hamas rocketfire before last summer's war?

To immediately surrender unconditionally, complete with disarmament and the turnover of their leaders for a war crime tribunal at the ICC. Because Israel is in the moral wrong.

That’s like asking me what the appropriate response is for a burglar after they get blasted at with a shotgun but some of the pellets hit civilians.

“But that’s ridiculous and would never happen.”

Right but you asked me what Israel SHOULD have done.

Scientists store digital images in DNA, and retrieves them perfectly

Technology companies routinely build sprawling data centers to store all the baby pictures, financial transactions, funny cat videos and email messages its users hoard.

But a new technique developed by University of Washington and Microsoft researchers could shrink the space needed to store digital data that today would fill a Walmart supercenter down to the size of a sugar cube.

The team of computer scientists and electrical engineers has detailed one of the first complete systems to encode, store and retrieve digital data using DNA molecules, which can store information millions of times more compactly than current archival technologies.

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International War Crimes Tribunal investigators clear away soil and debris from dozens of Srebrenica victims buried in a mass grave near the village of Pilica, 55 kilometers northeast of Tuzla, on September 18, 1996.

On July 11, 1995, towards the end of the war, Bosnian Serb soldiers swept into a U.N.-designated “safe haven,” taking military-age men, boys, and some elderly men. Over the days that followed, they executed them and dumped their bodies into pits in the surrounding forests. (x)

U.N.-backed tribunal sentences Khmer Rouge leaders to life in prison

AP: Two top Khmer Rouge leaders were sentenced to life in prison on Thursday for their role in the 1970s “killing fields” of Cambodia. 

A U.N.-backed war crimes tribunal sentenced the former 83-year-old head of state and its 88-year-old chief ideologue on war crime charges three and a half decades after the country’s terror period.

Photo: In this July 10, 2014 photo, a tourist looks at human skulls of genocide victims at the Tuol Sleng Genocide Museum, formerly the most notorious Khmer Rouge prison, in Phnom Penh, Cambodia. (AP Photo/Heng Sinith)

Rwanda genocide: Ex-army chief given 30-year sentence (BBC)

“Former Rwandan army chief Augustin Bizimungu has been sentenced to 30 years in prison for his role in the 1994 genocide.

The UN war crimes tribunal for Rwanda also convicted ex-paramilitary police chief Augustin Ndindiliyimana but released him for time already served.

Two other senior generals were each sentenced to 20 years in prison.

The court ruled that Bizimungu, who was arrested in Angola in 2002, had complete control over the men he commanded in 1994, AFP news agency said.”

anonymous asked:

Why do you believe Gale has remorse for what happened? There's nothing in the text that showed him having any remorse. Even in his last scene w/Katniss, the only thing he mentions is how he's no longer a romantic prospect. I don't think he's a bad guy. I just can't love a character that's so blinded by hate he disregards his humanity. If he were a real person, which unfortunately there are people like him in this world, he's one of those soldiers who kills civilians in their homes & villages.

I will preface this by clarifying something. I love Gale’s character. Not like I would love a person. I love what Collins with his characterization. I also do not excuse one iota of what he’s done.  

I also wish I saved my metas from the past because in one, I do make the argument that Gale is a stand in for all the angry, disenfranchised, oppressed men who are recruited into terrorist organizations and in the name of a greater power or cause, commit atrocities against innocents.  

But in terms of Gale’s remorse or lack of it, I have as much textual support that he is remorseful as you have that he is not. I am doing what you are doing and extrapolating based on my understanding of his character and his meaning in the book to determine what I think will be his motivation and future actions. I would argue that I have a hair more than you do because the tone of his exchange with Katniss is one of a person who acknowledges that he has failed at something. 

“That was the one thing I had going for me. Taking care of your family,” he says. “Shoot straight, okay?” He touches my cheek and leaves.”

He knows he fucked up, though he does not clarify.  But he doesn’t blubber on and on about apologies and remorse. What would be the point?  (He is just like Katniss - would she have gone on and on if she realized what she did was too big for forgiveness?). He’s lost Katniss - he admitted to Peeta as much in Tigriss’ basement when he admits that she loves Peeta, that she never kissed Gale the way they kissed - so that’s not the point. He lost his only redeeming quality when he built the bombs that lead to Prim’s and the  Capitol children’s death.  His weapon would have violated every Human Right’s Accord and the Geneva Conventions because they targeted the wounded and aid workers (though I still believe children were not his intended target). His words became actions he could not take back.  You don’t get his remorse because his story ends there.  SC sends him off like a lone cow boy riding into the sunset.

I’m so glad papofglencoe brought up Oppenheimer and Einstein.  We don’t revile them because they were publicly remorseful for their participation in the building of the bomb and, let’s not be naive, because we are part of the winning side of the war - otherwise, they might have rightfully stood for prosecution in a war crimes tribunal for the massacre of innocents in Hiroshima and Nagasaki).  Gale goes off to a glamorous job in D2 because he won the war for the rebels.  We don’t get the privilege of seeing Gale’s remorse because the ambiguity is what Collins wants to leave us with, to stimulate the kind of discussion we are having now.

What I find remarkable, though, is that Gale gets this grotesque amount of hatred but Beetee, who actually brought the bombs to life, is either treated benignly in fics or is ignored altogether.  Johanna, who voted to send Capitol children back into the games, is depicted (and I am guilty too so don’t worry) in fics as the sassy best friend.  Haymitch essentially lied to Katniss and Peeta and never really planned on saving Peeta from the Quarter Quell arena, leading to his hijacking, and he’s kind of a dick to Katniss throughout the book, even abandoning her when they returned to 12. Why does Gale get the brunt of all this hatred when every single major character in this trilogy (with a few notable exceptions) behaved reprehensibly in consequence to war? 

I’ll just leave the question there.

Thanks for the ask!

Morning in the Burned House

My exchange fic for @englishable, based on their prompt: “Leia’s not really surprised at all, to be honest, but, for the sake of his pride, she should probably pretend to be.” Happy Valentine’s Day! <3

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Morning In The Burned House


This is the story, as best as Leia can piece together from witnesses:

When they find him at the end of the war, he is unmasked and standing guard in front of his master’s throne, red lightsaber already ablaze and waiting for Rey to fly right at its jagged edge— which she does the moment the stone doors of the great chamber crack in half before the wave of her hand.

Finn and his troops make to follow her inside, but she halts them in their tracks. Screams, “No! Mine!”

She charges with teeth bared. It is a duel for the ages, or so they say, crimson crossguard shrieking against sapphire saberstaff, a burst of lunges and parries too fast for the untrained eye to track, the pillars of Snoke’s fortress trembling as the Force lashes out from both sides, shattering the windows, gouging deep into the walls. Rey and Kylo Ren are at their best, their most desperate, slicing and spinning, bodies slamming into each other, deflecting each other’s telekinetic pulls, feet waltzing in rhythm and counter-rhythm as ground is lost and regained and lost again all across the length of the room.

Finally, he staggers, his extinguished lightsaber sliding to the floor in a sharp clang of metal. Her blade hums a hair’s breadth away from his neck and he sinks to his knees, a slow and awful fall.

They stare at each other, chests heaving. The bond that they so reluctantly share shivers with unspoken words. There are tears in both their eyes.


This is the story, as Rey herself tells Leia in debriefing:

Snoke is a crumpled heap of skeletal limbs and black robes on a marble throne. Strange that entire worlds have been destroyed by something so human-sized. There is an angry scorchmark running diagonal across his chest. He was already dead when Rey tore down the doors.

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