Lastnight was very interesting for me.. It was the first time ever to have a full on debate with a nonvegan. We went back and forth and when he started to get very defensive i just reminded him “it’s not about who is right and who is wrong or being disrespectful and getting defensive. I mean, I understand it. You’ve been raised this way your entire life. All i’m doing is simply sharing this information with you, but what you do with the information is entirely up to you.”
Unfortunately the conversation just didn’t get anywhere. As expected, he said every typical nonvegan defensive things he possibly could. Jokes, disrespectful stuff, you need meat for protein, it’s normal to put oil/seasonings all over meat and cook it rather than how an actual carnivore would hunt it’s prey then proceed to tear into it with it’s real canines and swallow it whole. Also that my boyfriend and i are nutjobs going against the government, we’re the cause of pollution and destruction on the planet, people in other countries are hungry because they send the rice and beans to us, we’ve always done it this way/our ancestors ate meat, it’s normal to artificially inseminate cows to take away their baby for the milk, we’re superior, if animals aren’t here for us then why do they exist, animals don’t have conciousness, and so on….
Although this was a very difficult and very intense discussion that went on for a little over an hour, i found myself never becoming angry. As i normally would. As most people normally would. I really just tried to take my time and state as many facts as I possibly could on the spot. Facts over just about every topic. Of course it is disappointing to know that he is probably just too stuck in his ways and not going to take anything from the discussion, but i think this is something we all need to think over and try to understand. We all need to realize that anger and hate does not get us anywhere. We all need to realize that staying calm, giving information, and simply trying our best to help nonvegans is the most important way of going about it. They. Are. Going. To. Get. Defensive. It’s cognitive dissonance. We, as vegans, need to understand that no matter what rude, awful things some nonvegans may say to us, we still know the facts! We know the truth, we have educated ourselves and broke free from the brainwashing of the government, meat and dairy industry, and pharmaceutical industry.
We all have to work together and stay relaxed to share this information with everybody, so that one day.. one day we will see a vegan world!
A world full of love, compassion, and joy. A world full of life and abundance. A world full of enlightened beings.
So with that being said.. Stay educated, show love, show compassion, be understanding, and share the vegan message to everyone you can! 🌱❤
Excuse me but being vegan is fuckin expensive and not everyone can afford it
i understand that when you’re a minor that’s not hand selecting your meal plan, adding vegan food to a family carnist diet is expensive. but if you’re living on your own and buying your own food, veganism can be cheap and price is an invalid excuse
First rule of vegan club: never talk about vegan club because a non vegan will over hear and make twelve bad jokes about spotting the vegan, inform your currently living body that you will die without animal protein, question you about the sentience of lettuce and place you on an imaginary island that apparently has no edible vegetation whatsoever despite the animals roaming around.
How do you handle patients or people in general who have zero medical education, medical training or hell maybe haven't taken a science class since high school, but they know everything about the health and care of the human body? They hate "Big Pharma". They despise western medicine. They watched documentaries and read books. They're a vegan. How do you inform or possibly educate this massively growing group of people? As a health care provider this annoys me and scares me at the same time.
Basically… if I can see that the person is not open to any discussion about their opinion, I just half smile and nod.
Sometimes I take the approach of “if you can’t trust me to take good care of you and to recommend what I have learned is best, then maybe I shouldn’t be your doctor.” That statement alone will make some folks at least listen to science. I will keep things lighthearted and not be super pushy, but I am firm and very clear about the risks associated with a patient’s choice so I know they’ve heard all sides of the story.
I have plenty of folks who refuse things I recommend (hello flu shots) and I get really serious with them and talk about worst case scenario stuff – ICU rooms and ventilators and death – and then if they still refuse then I move on. I’ve had more than a few who finally broke down after I bugged them about a colonoscopy or mammogram or flu shot enough times, though. You do have to be persistent. I don’t ever want to hear a patient say “you didn’t tell me I needed this!”
Honestly, I don’t have but a handful of patients who refuse basically everything I recommend. Those are the folks that I ask bluntly why they waste their money to pay to come see me if they don’t trust my advice and then I offer to refer them to another doctor.
To some extent, anon, you have to inform your patient of what you know to be right, but then also allow them to make their own decisions, even if you think the decisions are stupid ;).
Caged hens are crammed into tiny, filthy metal cages where they have as much room as an A4 sized piece of paper. They basically go insane with stress, and although their beaks are usually seared off when they are born, they often pull out each others feathers or go bald from being so sick. They are slaughtered after their egg production drops, which is around 9 months to one year.
Barn hens are crammed in their thousands into filthy windowless sheds. There are so many birds they can have very little room to move. Like battery hens, these birds feathers fall out or are plucked out by others from stress. These sheds are often so dirty the birds can have severely painful infected feet and underbellies. Like battery hens, they are slaughtered when they around a year old, after egg production drops.
Free range hens, like barn hens, are crammed in their thousands into dirty windowless sheds. They are allowed access outside, however, there are usually so many of them, the majority of hens aren’t able to get outside regularly and are confined to their filthy ‘barn’. Like other laying hens, free range hens are often debeaked shortly after birth.
Other things to consider
Millions of male chicks are ground up alive or suffocated after birth as they are a by-product of the egg industry.
Worldwide, there are currently 6.6 Billion egg-laying hens suffering right now in these awful conditions.
Chickens are more affectionate, intelligent and interesting than most people think. Just watch the video below.
I just had an amazing, humbling experience with this chunky little fuzzy bumble bee. I went to let my dog out and when I opened the back door, this cutie was crawling very slowly across the patio. After recognizing that she was not a wasp (thank goodness, I didn’t want to have to kill anything today… wasps are jerks and we all know it.) I decided to help her out and get her up off the ground and back to her bumblebee business. (The Beefcake and I later named her Queen of the Bee-zantine Empire.)
I know, I know… “Aurora, why wouldn’t you just leave it alone? It’s not even a honey bee!” Prepare to do some learning. Here’s what I’m going to talk about in this post:
1. Some facts about bumblebees! (Because who doesn’t like facts?) 2. Why bumbles are important. (And plants they help us pollinate.) 3. How to help a grounded bumblebee. (And what I did to help my bumble friend.) 4. How to help non-grounded bumblebees (and honeybees) in your neighborhood! 5. How to tell if it’s really a bumble/honeybee.
Let’s get to it!
1. Facts About Bumbles: To avoid boring everyone (myself included) to death by making this part of the post sound like a long, drawn-out speech full of science mumbo jumbo, I’m going to list some really basic facts and some that I thought were kinda interesting. Bee facts! Yeah!!! - There’s a type of bumblebee called a “Cuckoo Bumblebee” that are brood parasitic. This means they don’t make their own nests, they just go invade another bee’s nest. The queen of the Cuckoos will murder the other queen and lay eggs in that nest and the workers that live and were ruled by the first queen then take care of the invading Cuckoo queen’s babies. I think there’s a Showtime drama television show about this. (I don’t really think there is one, but there should be.) - Female bumbles can sting repeatedly because their stingers don’t have barbs like honeybees do. This means they don’t leave their stinger (or guts) when they sting something! Bumbles usually are defensive and will only sting if they’re in danger or are defending their nest. (The multiple stabs could also be in the show.) - They can fly at lower temperatures than honeybees can, and can forage for their food from flowers that are long and tube-like because they have longer tongues. - Bumblebees produce honey just like honeybees do! That being said, they do not stockpile it so we humans don’t harvest it. - Franklin’s Bumblebee (native to Oregon and California) has been listed as critically endangered by the IUCN (International Union for Conservation of Nature.) These bees like lupine and california poppies so if you have a garden and you live on the west coast, do them a favor and plant some of these things.
2. Why Bumbles Are Important: To make this easy on everyone, I’ll just make a simple list of things bumblebees pollinate for us humans. (PS - Honeybees pollinated 1/3 of the UK’s animal-pollinated crops while the other 2/3 was done by… you guessed it… bumbles.) Here’s a list of fruits and veggies we can thank bumbles for: - Kiwis - Cranberries - Blueberries - Cherries - Pears - Plums - Apples - Blackberries - Oranges - Lemons - Melons (including watermelons, honeydew) - Raspberries - Peaches - Strawberries - Sunflowers - Tomatoes - Peppers - Cucumbers - Squashes and pumpkins
Get the idea?
3. Help Grounded Bumbles: Generally if a bee is grounded it is either hurt, sick, or it doesn’t have enough energy to get up and go. Here’s how you can help!
- GENTLY scoot the bee onto a piece of paper and transfer it to some type of container that air can get into but the bee can’t fly away immediately. I used a little tupperware container, but I left the lid off completely because I like bees and I’m not afraid of or allergic to them. - Find some flowers and put those in there! The only flowers I could find in close proximity to my house were hyacinth flowers, but the bee seemed to like them well enough. - Give your bee friend some sort of sugary solution. Dissolve a little bit of sugar in water, or if you have honey just mix it into some water and give your little bee a drop or two. Do not use artificial sweeteners, natural sweeteners are best. - Give your bee friend some water in a dish that has a lip for her to sit on so she doesn’t fall in. This is more of an issue during the summer months when there are droughts and bees can’t always find good water, but I figured I’d list it just for future reference. - Let your bee get better and fly off on their own! Chances are if they were just running on low energy, your diluted sugar solution will give them that little boost they need to fly off.
NOTE: If your bee has a damaged wing it will be very hard to help them. A bee without wings is pretty much useless and it will likely die. It’s sad, but that’s nature and nature isn’t always nice.
If your bee friend has a broken leg it can recover, but just be careful when moving it so you don’t damage any of its other legs.
4. Help ALL Bees: - In the warmer months (spring, summer, autumn) put a little dish of water in your garden so bees can drink it! Make sure the dish has a little lip or edge for them to sit on so they can still access the water but are not in danger of falling into it. - Don’t kill honeybees or bumbles that get into your house! They’re probably just as confused and scared as you are. Put them in a tupperware and transport them outside. (Wasps are a different story…) - If you have a garden/patio that supports plant life, consider planting some flowers or fruits and veggies that bees like to forage from! In return you’ll get healthy little crops and you’ll also feel better because you get to help out our buzzy little friends! Here’s a little chart to help you out with that.
5. How to Identify Bees: I’ll let this picture do most of the explaining.
Bumbles: Fuzzy, fluffy fat babies. Honeybees: Fuzzy bodies, thick legs. Wasps: Don’t get close enough to identify these. If you are unsure from a distance, just assume it’s a wasp and leave it alone completely.
Hi! I love animals, so I've gone vegan and started studying biology/animal psych in my free time. I wanna go to museums and other places that have educational stuff like skeletons, but my politics make me wonder if the stuff if ethical (1/2)
Was the animal killed or kept in confinement/an unnatural environment? Etc. Do you ever have this problem? And even if you don’t, do you have any ideas on how to get around it? Thank you very much!
There is literally no way to get around the fact that most animals in museum collections were either captive specimens while they were alive or collected through hunting. It’s simply not practical to pick up things that are already dead and attempt to turn them into museum quality specimens - roadkill or things that are already rotting have damage, and you can’t accurately study them.
Here’s how I would encourage thinking about it: you’re not perpetuating any further death through your patronage of facilities with animal-based collections. With the advancement of technology, the scientific world has almost entirely moved on from needing to kill things in order to study them.*
The animals in the collection are already dead, but they’re effectively ambassadors for the protection of their brethren because they’re part of the collection. Their death has allowed scientists to study them in order to protect and conserve the ones still living, has let them touch the minds of of visitors and spark their passion, has given us a way to still value and remember the species we’ve driven into extinction. There’s a very solid truth to the educational mantra that people will often only care about the things they have personal experience with. The animals in these collections are vital for that, and I think it’s much more important to honor them by supporting the good they can still do for every other living member of their species than to boycott educational facilities due to choices that were made decades, if not centuries before now. Even if those specimens were held captive for pride or killed for a trophy, they are valuable and vital for scientific advancement and education.
You can’t change how they died - but you can choose, with your actions, to support what that sacrifice means now.
*Some facilities will still do collection trips, and no institution will turn down access to the body of a rare animal in order to study it in ways that are impossible while they were alive. However, these projects are often grant- or school-funded, and it is highly unlikely that your presence and admission fee or lack therof will effect the continuation of these practices in any significant way.
hi! i was wondering if you have any information of veganism directly related to epilepsy? i want to go vegan and i know it's better for the brain, but my mom will only let me if there's some directly benefit towrads epilepsy
Unfortunately I don’t know anything about this so anything I could tell you would just be what I’d find by googling - so just google “vegan epilepsy” and browse through the results. Also see if there’s anything on nutritionfacts.org, they cover many topics and I trust them as a source of health related information. Hope you find useful stuff! Oh and watch this talk with your mom, maybe it’ll convince her anyway since it talks about so many health benefits in general!
I just read an article in the McDougall Newsletter called " When Friends Ask: Where Do You Get Your Calcium?" Have you read the article? And if so, do you agree with what he says. Sorry if this question gets asked a lot. I'm new to this vegan thing and your information really helps, thank you.