valeen-schnurr

Happy birthday Kelly🙇‍♀️
Born January 6, 1983
16 years old in 1999.

Kelly Fleming and her family moved to Littleton from Phoenix, Arizona 18 months before the shooting.

Kelly was a shy and creative girl who loved Halloween and was an aspiring songwriter and author who wrote many poems and short stories based on her life experiences.
Her mother, Dee, remembered Kelly coming home from school two months before the shooting, saying: “I’m not shy anymore.”

When the shooters entered the library, Kelly was hiding beside a table with other girls who she had been sitting with: Lisa Kreutz, Jeanna Park, Diwata Perez, Valeen Schnurr, and Lauren Townsend. At one point Dylan Klebold fired under the table, injuring Val and Lisa. He fired his gun again, killing Lauren. Both gunmen reloaded their weapons and taunted Val, asking her if she believed in God. The shooters then moved away from Kelly’s table, moving to another table where they shot Nicole Nowlen and killed John Tomlin before coming back to the girls’s table. Coming up from behind, he shot Kelly in the back with his sawed-off shotgun.

Kelly’s funeral was held at the same time as Daniel Mauser’s at the St. Frances Cabrini Catholic Church. She was buried with two teddy bears in her arms. Her grave is located at Mount Olivet Cemetery in Wheat Ridge, Colorado.

It still amazes me how some of the Columbine victims survived their wounds. Just to name a few: Patrick Ireland was shot twice in the head and still has a bullet lodged in his brain. Nicole Nowlen was under the table with John Tomlin and was hit with nine pieces of buckshot in her abdomen with five pieces still lodged in her stomach. Mark Kintgen was hit in the left side of the neck and head. Mark Taylor was shot five times in the back and two in the chest by Eric, and two bullets just barely missed his aorta. Valeen Schnurr suffered nine gunshot wounds to her arm, chest and abdomen. Lance Kirklin was shot point blank in the face by Dylan among other wounds to the foot, leg, and chest.

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“Across the room, Valeen Schnurr, who had turned 18 six days before, was cowering beneath another table with her best friend Lauren. They had just been preparing an English presentation on the American Civil War novel Cold Mountain and their pencil cases were still on the desk above their heads. Valeen remembers Lauren holding her hand tightly. Then, without understanding why, Valeen felt her body jerk forcefully. She noticed she was bleeding and would find out subsequently that she had been shot nine times at close range. "The force of the bullets pushed me out from under the table,” says Valeen, now 27. “I was in excruciating pain. It feels like fire running through your body. I was saying ‘Oh my God, oh my God’ and one of them [Klebold] asked me if I believed in God. I said yes. He asked why. I said 'My parents brought me up that way’.”

Then she held her breath and closed her eyes, hoping he would leave her to die. The gunman walked away. “I didn’t see his face,” Valeen says. “But their voices… it was like they were happy. To them it was like playing a game.” It was only afterwards, when she nudged her friend so they could make their escape, that she realised Lauren was dead. The ninth bullet had sliced through Valeen’s shoulder and killed her.“

- The Guardian, Ten years on and Columbine still feels the pain. 

Valeen Schnurr was the one who was asked if she believed in God, although the rumor has been circulating around Cassie Bernall, who was not asked anything before she was shot.

Happy birthday Lauren💕
Born January 17, 1981
18 years old in 1999.
Lauren Townsend was a senior and captain of the girls’ varsity volleyball team, which her mother, Dawn Anna, coached. She was a member of the National Honor Society and was a candidate for valedictorian of her graduating class. Lauren was a talented sketch artist as well. Nicknamed “Lulu,” she was a straight ‘A’ student and was set to graduate in about a month.
She volunteered at a local animal shelter and had planned to major in biology at Colorado State University when she graduated from Columbine.

Lauren was in the library with her friends Lisa Kreutz, Diwata Perez, Valeen Schnurr, and Jeanna Park when the shooting began. She hid beneath the table with them when the teacher told everyone to get down. Finding herself beside a frightened Val Schnurr, Lauren put her arm around her, drew her closer and told her everything would be okay. After several minutes of hearing the gunmen taunt and shoot other people hiding in the library, Dylan Klebold came to Lauren’s table. He opened fire, injuring Lisa and Val. He fired again, as fast as his weapon would shoot, hitting Lauren several times. A few minutes later Eric Harris came back around the table and shot beneath it again, hitting Lauren again but she didn’t feel it, she was already dead.

She died on the floor of the library from multiple bullet and shotgun wounds to the head, chest and lower body. Her funeral was held at Foothills Bible Church where her brother Josh played a tribute video filled with moments from her life. Many of her teachers spoke at her funeral, commending her gentle nature and loving spirit as well as her academic excellence. Her coffin was a white one that people attending her funeral could write on, much like one would sign a yearbook. Her father wrote: “Lulu, you’ll always be my baby.”
At the Columbine Graduating Ceremony on May 23, her family accepted her valedictorian honors and her diploma.
She was buried in Littleton Cemetery in Littleton, Colorado.
Rip beautiful😔👼🏻

Does anyone else get annoyed by the song 'Cassie' by Flyleaf?

I mean, with the historical inaccuracies based on the day of the massacre and the blatant exploitation of people killed in Columbine for a religious agenda. It bothers me a hell of a lot. So much that when I think about it, my whole body tenses up with anger. Shame on people who placed the blame on music, movies, and other things of the sort. Shame on people who exploited these innocent people, their families, and a horrible situation to gain publicity for their television show. Or their new upcoming album. Or whatever other dumb fucking reason. 

Why else does this bother me?

Firstly because Cassie Bernall (the ‘Cassie’ that the song is mentioning) was never asked “Do you believe in God?” before she was shot and killed. If I recall correctly, Eric said “Peek-a-boo” before he killed Cassie. Now, according to police reports/witness accounts, Valeen Schnurr was asked “Do you believe in God?”, her response was initially “No” and then changed to “Yes”, and then her life was spared.

As for the speculation that her life was spared because of either response she gave, I’m going to have to take a highly educated guess and say no. Given the motives behind their actions that day and the apparent lack of regard for religion they both had, it’s incredibly unlikely that the aforementioned question/response had anything to do with the outcome of that situation.

I’m basically explaining this situation because the end result of Flyleaf writing a song about one of the Columbine victims without doing proper research is this: a historically inaccurate and generally ridiculous song about religion that gained interest by exploiting a horrible situation and all of the people involved. 

Fucking stupid.

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“A born-again Christian as of 1997, Cassie Bernall was active in church youth programs and Bible study groups. Her parents called her “Bunny Rabbit” and said she loved to go rock climbing in Breckinridge. She had recently visited Great Britain and her favorite movie was ‘Braveheart’.

For a long time after the shootings, it was believed that she was the girl in the library who was asked by one of the shooters: “Do you believe in God?” and was subsequently shot because she said “Yes”. There is still controversy surrounding this – according to the Columbine Report, several witnesses claim that the conversation occurred between gunman Eric Harris and surviving victim Valeen Schnurr. Valeen herself has verified this fact. However Joshua Lapp, a witness to the library shootings, said in his interview with investigators that the shooters asked several people if they believed in God and the answers given didn’t seem to dictate who was shot or not.”

"Do you believe in God"

Jesus Christ people. It was not Rachel Scott that was asked. It was not Cassie Bernall. She was shot by Eric and he said “peekaboo”
It was Valeen Schnurr. Please know before you go posting stuff saying that Bernall was killed beacuse she was religious.

Lisa Kreutz was in the library when Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold entered Columbine on April 20, 1999. She hid under a table next to Lauren Townsend and Valeen Schnurr after being instructed to do so by Patti Nielson. She sustained multiple gunshot wounds, immobilizing her, and was the last person to be rescued from the library.

Kreutz reported to authorities when the gunmen entered the library before the bloodshed, she remembers one of them saying to the other:

“Are you still with me?  We’re still gonna do this, right?”

why are they still lying??? we know by witness statements from april 20th ‘99 that rachel never spoke to eric or dylan when she was shot, and the “do you believe in god?” was said to valeen schnurr i believe?? in the library. my god why are they straight up fucking lying about this

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May 22, 1999

 Columbine High School Graduation day: Eric Harris, Dylan Klebold, Lauren Townsend and Isaiah Shoels would have graduated. Survivors (left to right) Jeanna Park, Lisa Kreutz, and Valeen Schnurr received their diplomas.

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A huge part of the evidence punctures the myth that Cassie Bernall was asked if she believed in God, to which her answer would have been “yes”. As seen in the event recap from the evidence, multiple witnesses place the taunts regarding God as having happened to Val Schnurr. In the days that followed the tragedy, however, it was Cassie’s story that made it out there thanks to Rachel Scott’s brother Craig, who’d been in the library that day and witnessed the events. Investigators later concluded that Craig had seen Val being questioned instead of Cassie, given the table he assigned to the “girl who said yes”, but the damage was already done by then. Val Schnurr’s real story would only sparingly make it ‘out there’.

Valeen Schnurr doesn’t want her fellow freshmen to know her as Val, the girl from Columbine. Nor does she want to be known as the Girl Who Really Said Yes, or the Living Saint, or the Almost Martyr, even though she is all of those things. And she definitely doesn’t want to be known as the girl who punctured the myth of Cassie Bernall.

Schnurr knows what Cassie’s story means to the people around her, knows that many who lived through the Columbine High School shootings in April cling to it as the tragedy’s only redemption. They’ve all heard the same version over and over: In the school’s library, one of the teenage killers held a gun to Cassie’s head and asked if she believed in God. Cassie said “yes” and he “blew her away,” as a friend later reported.

[…]

Schnurr’s story is the same one she’s been telling since she came out of anesthesia after her first surgery to remove the 34 pellets that pierced her arms and torso. Her parents, Mark and Shari Schnurr, remember it perfectly, as they’d been anxiously pacing her hospital room waiting for her to speak. As she told them in bits and pieces, and later repeated to the investigators, she and some friends were studying in the library, along with a few dozen more kids. They heard shotguns and screams, and everyone crouched under the  tables.

At some point, Schnurr looked up and saw boots first and then a shotgun. She was whispering prayers when the first blast hit her and knocked her to the floor, bleeding. She whispered more loudly, “Oh my God, oh my God, don’t let me die.”

Do you believe in God, one of the shooters asked.

“Yes.”

“Why?”

“Because I believe, and my parents brought me up that way,” she answered, and crawled away while he reloaded. He didn’t shoot at her again. “It didn’t really cross my mind that something bad would come from my answer,” she says now. “He asked and I couldn’t say no. I don’t think of it as bravery. I think of it as what I said because it’s true, because it’s just me. What else was I going to say?”

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Cassie // Flyleaf

This song is based off of the Columbine school massacre. Thirteen were killed and several more were injured. Cassie Bernall, who was 17 and in the library when the shooting took place, was asked by one of the two gunmen if she believed in God. When she answered yes, she was shot in the face and killed immediately. This originates from claims by the students/teachers who were also in the library. Yet some believe this exchange did not happen between Cassie and the gunman, as another student, Valeen Schnurr (who survived), was also asked the same question and was sitting next to Cassie. The students/teachers admitted they could have misheard and thought the gunman asked Cassie not Valeen. 

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