Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken Episode Commentary in Text (wayyy summarized in a lot parts)

A few people asked someone to summarize what was said in the episode commentary regarding Sansa’s wedding night with Ramsay after I posted that I thought it was really interesting how they explained their reasons for including the scene and my only conclusion for that commentary is they put it in to show how strong Sansa is and how her goodness surviving Ramsay is central to her role in the game.

Here’s the text (not at all word for word but close):

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AU - Rhaegar and Aerys die during Robert’s Rebellion, but the loyalist forces win. Elia Martell is crowned Queen Of The Seven Kingdoms and her reign becomes the golden age of Westeros.

So why is Dorne really important? Here’s the thing: Dorne is the only Kingdom in Seven Kingdoms who never bowed to a Targaryen. Aegon the Conqueror could never conquer Dorne. Daeron the Young Dragon tried to take Dorne once, and he became the youngest King ever died. Dorne retain their sovereignty through-out the history. Elia was a Princess not because she married into the Targaryen family, no. She’s a Princess in her own right. Oberyn and Doran were Princes in their own right. Not even the Starks were able to maintain their independence. The only way that the Targaryens succeeded in bringing Dorne to their fold is through marriage. That’s right. You read that right. Dorne is Unbent, Unbowed, Unbroken. 

Dorne is not just a bunch of scantily clad sexy brown people that can be used as a plot device. Dorne is an independent Kingdom. Dorne deserves better. 

Can I just say what a slap in the face it is to find out that Rheagar ANNULLED his marriage to Elia Martell. He divorced his sickly wife, the mother of his two children, and made those children bastards. Like wow I thought the show was finally done butchering the the Dornish storyline two episodes ago, this was just kicking a dead horse. Anyways, Elia deserved better, the Martells deserved better, Dorne deserved better.

asoiaf housesHOUSE NYMEROS MARTELL, usually simply called HOUSE 
MARTELL, is one of the Great Houses of the Seven Kingdoms and the ruling 
house of Dorne. "Nymeros" indicates "of the line of Nymeria,"referring 
to the union of the Martells with the Rhoynish warrior queen Nymeria 
around 700 BC. Prince of Dorne rules Dorne from Sunspear in southeastern 
Dorne. The Martells of old used a spear as their emblem, while Nymeria 
and her Rhoynar used the sun as theirs. When Nymeria wed Lord Mors 
Martell, the symbols were combined into a gold spear piercing a red sun 
on an orange field. Their words are Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken.
ACoTaR characters & GoT quotes
  • Rhysand: Thousands of men don't need to die. Only one of us.
  • Azriel: Power resides where men believe it resides. It’s a trick, a shadow on the wall. And a very small man can cast a very large shadow.
  • Cassian: What do we say to the Lord of Death? ...Not today.
  • Morrigan: All men must die but we are not men.
  • Amren: If you ever call me sister again, I'll have you strangled in your sleep.
  • Feyre Archeron: Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken.
  • Nesta Archeron: Fire cannot kill a Dragon.
  • Elain Archeron: From ivory to porcelain to steel.
  • Lucien Vanserra: If I look back I am lost.
  • Tamlin: The things I do for love.
  • Alis: Why is it always the innocents who suffer most, when you High Lords play your game of thrones?
very late S5 Ep6 discourse

Really? People got upset over that?

What’s the big deal. Sansa got raped by Ramsay Bolton. Ramsay Bolton is a monster. That’s his character. Next.

I read some complaints saying “Oh it completely backtracks all of Sansa’s character development” and I’m just…fuck, what character development? 

She went from being a naive silly little girl who seemed to care only about herself to a sad yet still naive girl that lost her family. The only things she possesses are her ability to say “yes” to the wrong people, her wariness of everyone (including the people who want to help her), her beauty, her resentment, and her family name. What major changes has she gone through, pray tell, because honestly I sense really nothing changed about her character and nothing really seemed to be simmering “in the making” of change. She does not assert herself in the face of adversity or act proactive like Catelyn or Arya, she does not have wits like Cersei, she does not possess charm or even that much likability like Margaery, she doesn’t even really hold true to any moral code like Brienne. Fuck, she doesn’t even fight viciously to protect what little she has like Lysa did. With the exception of the time she rescued that knight from Joffrey’s sadism, she’s been a doll shuffled and rattled from one place to another. Losing all hope and sense of personal agency is not “character development”, and being raped on your wedding night isn’t undoing anything. 

( Is it her fault what happened to her? Not exactly. Was the threat of torture and death under Joffrey there? Yeah, I guess, but honestly, the fact that she herself said to her father “I don’t want someone who’s nice, and gentle, I want Joffrey” is as retarded as anything I’ve ever heard. You have to be a special kind of stupid to want someone who beat up your sister’s friend, threatened to torture him, and caused the death of your innocent direwolf, your FUCKING ANIMAL COMPANION, love or not. If you ignore clear warning signs, then how is it anyone else’s fault but your own that you ended up marrying him after he killed your father, even after you saw him for the monster that he was? Arya saw Joffrey for what he was immediately.)

She is an average girl born in a good house and happened to be the eldest daughter. People only care because she’s one of the main characters. Tons of girls like her have been taken advantage of in the same way in GoT universe, tons of untold stories of girls that were of high status who were shipped off to their enemies and mistreated. This is literally nothing new, nor particularly outlandish. I don’t even find it exploitative, it seems par for the course that a character would be raped (off-screen, mind you) because that’s who Ramsay is in this version of the series.

This is Game of Thrones, people are raped and slaughtered and yes, main characters aren’t immune to this. Did people think Ramsay wouldn’t rape Sansa? We should be lucky we didn’t see it in all its horridness on the same level as the orgy scenes in the brothels.

(Tumblr is acting weird so I’ll just copy + paste a reply here because why the f is xkit reblogging shit to my main?)


Not blaming her, just saying that people who were outraged by Ramsay raping her are kind of.. why are you outraged again? Did y'all think Ramsay would be kind to her?

My criticism of peoples’ criticism is specifically that some people say “oh it completely retconned character development” and it’s like … what could she do in that situation? Kill Ramsay? She didn’t have it in her to kill him, I don’t think. It was after she was raped that she got a weapon, that …I don’t know, barrel borer or whatever in Episode 7. But she didn’t use it on him.

Up until the episode of her rape, she had been slowly, slowly SO SLOWLY maybe trying to find a backbone and stand up to her abusers, to at least give herself the comfort that she didn’t passively take anything. The thing about the rape scene is that it wouldn’t have mattered if she had, because Ramsay would have hurt her even more, possibly, so it’s a damned if you do, damned if you don’t, and that’s the sad truth of it.

The only thing I’m blaming her for is for being blind and stubborn to not seeing Joffrey for the monster he was, and Joffrey didn’t rape her. Harassed and threatened to kill her, but didn’t rape her. She could have totally avoided that anguish if she hadn’t deluded herself into thinking that termite wasn’t an utter sociopath even when she saw right in fucking front of her that he was a spineless worm.

I mean, if y'all are thinking I’m blaming Sansa for her rape, I’m not. I’m just confused why everyone was so upset that it happened when it has been made abundantly and expressly clear that Ramsay is a cruel man. We saw Craster’s girls raped by the Night Watch, we saw Daenarys unwillingly having sex with Khal Drogo at first, why is Sansa any different. Because we know her better? Because it’s gratuitous? I thought that was kind of the theme of Game of Thrones. People having their entrails spill out is fine, but an off-screen rape isn’t?

I can post whatever I want in the Sansa Stark tag. I like Sansa but she’s a bit slow and dim when it comes to maneuvering the game of courts and kings and houses. She’s not like her mother, certainly not like her sister. Because yes, what you do to your wedded rapist is make him even more pissed off by reminding him he’s a bastard (S5 Ep7), that’s smart. That little jab must have felt so good before he likely spent the rest of the day conceiving of ways to make her hurt even more. Smart girl, she is.

 Ramsay thrives off of breaking obstinate people, that’s how Theon turned into Reek. Sansa doesn’t know that, but she doesn’t seem to know a lot of things despite having experienced so much. I’m waiting for her to get those balls that Ramsay commended Yara of having, and since I’ve read a bit of the spoilers I know that she does escape Ramsay’s clutches and eventually gets Petyr dead to death, so thankfully she does get shit done, but as she is now, the awkward transition from victim that makes all the wrong choices to victim who makes the strategic choices is kind of abysmal. Still rooting for her.