tumblr catholic community

The Tumblr Holy League (informal)

Commitments
-Pray a daily Rosary for World Peace, End of Terrorism, Fight Satanism and Witchcraft
-Pray intercessory prayers to St. Michael the Archangel or a Saint of your choice when a fellow Christian is in trouble or under attack by people
-Defend other Christians from written assaults from the enemy
-Spread the Gospel
-Use your Tumblr primarily as a means for the world to know Jesus
-Defend the Mass! Novus Ordo and TLM
-Reblog and support other Christians
-Gently correct other Christians who are in error
-Promote Pro-Life Causes and Posts
-Serve others in our daily lives
-Attend Mass every Sunday and Holy Day of Obligation
-Frequent Confessions
-Prayer for vocations into Holy Orders
-Educate others about the True Catholic and Apostolic Faith
-Defend the Family, Chastity, and Holy Sexuality
-Block Porn Blogs
-Challenge all evil!
-Engage in public Discourse about the matters of the Catholic Faith

-Respect and Love Pope Francis
-Defend Pope Francis, Allegiance to The Bishops, Cardinals, and Holy Father is Key
-Defend Mary our Mother, The Immaculate Conception, Marian Doctrines and Dogmas
-LOVE JESUS (duh)
-PROMOTE THE ROSARY
-PROMOTE DEVOTIONS
-PRAYER PRAYER PRAYER

if you have other editions, inbox me.

Hey, fam!

So recently a few friends and I came up with the idea of developing an online Catholic ministry/community. We came up with this while using rabb.it to watch superhero shows together. The purpose of this ministry/community would be to help us better know, love, and serve God. Many of us do not have Catholic communities and/or campus ministries for whatever reason, so this would be a great way to connect with other Catholics and make some awesome friends!

Because there’s been so much feedback about the online Catholic ministry/community, I wanted to get an idea of who is interested and what people are interested in, so I put together this form for people to fill out!

Your feedback is so critical to the development of this ministry/community - thank you so much! :)

In Christ,
Brandon (@captainvatican)

Traditional Catholic Mass..

There are so many urban legends that circulate in the Catholic blogosphere, and I don’t have the time to write the book it would take to rebut them. But concerning Vatican Council II and the “New Mass” (Ordinary Form), let me just make a few historical notes for the benefit of the Catholic Tumblr community. These are taken from conversations I had with my seminary liturgy professor. 

My professor was actually at Vatican II. These are some things he pointed out.

–The Catholic bishops met between 1962 and 1965.

–They did not meet every day for the whole year. Each session of Vatican II took place at St. Peter’s in Rome, in the months of October, November, and the beginning of December.

–Before flying to Rome, and after leaving Rome in December, each bishop received packages in the mail with huge stacks of documents to be studied and discussed later at the council.

–The bishops gathered in St. Peter’s basilica, which had an excellent sound system set up with microphones so that bishops could make interventions and comments during the council presentations and talks.

–The seating was like a stadium, with sections. There was a section for Protestant observers. They had no microphones and were not allowed to speak, at all, to the gathered bishops–only listen.

–Bishops could visit with, an interact with, the Protestants, before or after the working day of speeches and presentations. But during Vatican II, no Protestant ever spoke, even once, to the Catholic bishops, or voted, even once, on anything published at Vatican II.

–Besides the Protestant “auditores” (observers) there was another section for the Catholic nuns who were invited to be “auditrices” (female observers). These were women from the major religious orders.

–It never occurred to the Catholic bishops to ever allow the Sisters to speak or give input. Like the Protestants, they had no microphones.

–We find it bizarre, but in those days people took it for granted that a Church Council was for Catholic bishops to give input at, and everyone else was to be quiet, to be seen and not heard, even Catholic Sisters who did at least 50% or more of all the Catholic apostleship.

–My professor knew impeccable Latin and French. So, as the council bishops spoke in Latin, he would be facing the Protestant observers, who had earphones on their heads and would have everything translated to them in French. He had help from other translators who worked during Vatican II.

–A few Catholic bishops were stubborn and refused to speak in Latin, but spoke in French instead, which was considered something of an international language at the time.

–There were lots of nice dinners and parties throughout Rome during the Council. The bishops liked to have nice social dinners LOL. Many of the bishops interacted with the Protestant observers, who were all scholars and very educated theologians in their own churches.

–Fr. Hans Kung was making a lot of money from his liberal books and articles. He bought an expensive sports car and drove around Rome showing it off, along with his flashy new suits. So much for liberal priests always being into poverty and social justice.

–Concerning the Mass, my professor said it was only the Tridentine Mass recently edited by St. John XXIII in 1962.

–My professor would laugh when people would speak of the “liberal Mass of Vatican II” since they did not realize that the only Mass at Vatican II was the Latin, Tridentine Mass. 

–Everything at Vatican II, prayers, ceremonies, speeches, were conducted in Latin, except for the few times a bishop would insist on speaking in French. One bishop who spoke only in French was Armenian Cardinal, Greg Agagianian.

–After the 1962 session, the bishops called for a “thorough reform” of the rites. All of these bishops had grown up only with Latin and the rituals from the Council of Trent. But they believed that the Mass and sacraments needed an updating by 1962.

–A “Consilium” was set up during Vatican II. It was a liturgical commission for studying the Mass and Sacraments with a view to reforming them.

Now, this is where it gets tricky. In the traditionalist Catholic blogosphere, people speak of Protestants observing, and then giving input. That’s where you get that famous black and white photo of Pope Paul VI allegedly meeting with Protestants who “helped put together the Novus Ordo.”

What is lost is this. First of all, the “Novus Ordo” is not from Vatican II. The Novus Ordo did not go into effect until November of 1969, four years after Vatican II had already disbanded.

We must make a distinction between the COUNCIL, and the CONSILIUM. Yes, there were Protestants at the Vatican Council. NO, there were no Protestants on the Consilium.

The Consilium, or commission for drafting new liturgical texts, was composed of bishops and priest scholars who had been writing about the liturgy for decades. It only met a few times a year in Rome. 

The members all had full time jobs and did not have time to be in Rome having meetings all the time. Mostly, each guy worked from his home location. They were all priests. No lay people. No nuns. And absolutely NO PROTESTANTS.

Again, Vatican II had Protestant “observers.” The Consilium’s members were only Catholic bishops and priests. Clear? Capisce?

The rest of the year, documents circulated among members and were then sent with revisions to Rome, where priests working in the Vatican began writing or putting together new rituals based on the Consilium suggestions and the suggestions of bishops/Cardinals who were not on the Consilium, but were still consultors.

The Consilium members had all studied the Missals and Sacramentaries of the Ancient Church and early Medieval Catholicism. While keeping many of the Tridentine prayers from the Traditional Latin Mass, they also incorporated texts from the Ambrosian, Gelasian, Leonine, and other ancient texts of the liturgy.

So, it is not historically true that the Novus Ordo was made up, on the spot, and out of thin air. Even the rumors that some prayers were made up in the cafes of Rome would not be accurate, because the Consilium carefully documented the sources for the prayers of the Missal. 

For instance, Eucharistic Prayer III which was supposedly invented out of thin air was composed by Fr. Cipriano Vagaggini in the 1940′s, and was circulated and discussed by bishops even before Vatican II. Eucharistic Prayer II which was supposedly composed at a cafe in Rome can easily be seen as originating from the prayers of St. Hippolytus in the 2nd and 3rd century of Rome. Let us repeat again that in the Ordinary Form, there are still many, many prayers lifted out of the Missal of Pius V.

Besides the debates between scholars regarding the Ordinary Form, we have a record of numerous cardinals and bishops who wrote in after they received the huge draft copies in the mail. The bishop of my diocese, Aloysius Willinger, used to speak of comments and input he gave back in the mid-60′s when he would get draft copies from the Consilium.

The canard about the Roman Missal of Paul VI being used by Protestants is simply laughable and preposterous. There was not one, single Protestant denomination that adopted the New Mass. The language of “offertory” and the Latin “offerimus” found throughout the Novus Ordo in Latin was found to be extremely objectionable. 

For all the talk that the Novus Ordo has “no sense of sacrifice” the Protestant theologian Max Thurian made very clear that in Protestantism, nothing is “offered” to God. That, he said, is Catholic theology of the Mass as propitiatory sacrificed “offered to God.”

Protestant theology insists that the only offering given to God was given by Jesus at the Cross. Therefore, even the supposedly watered down language of the Novus Ordo presupposes with “offering” that we are making a sacrifice to God.

Such language contradicts clearly the teaching of the Protestant Reformers, who said that at worship we can praise God, thank Him through Jesus, and repent of sin. But in no way can Protestant liturgy accept the idea that at worship, we “offer” anything for we are nothing and Christ is alone the One who offers sacrifice to His Father.

Hopefully, this gives the Tumblr Catholic community a sense of how to see the traditionalist accusations of Paul VI. I hate to say it, but it is now a given that anything quoted from Paul VI or Consilium head, Annibale Bugnini, has to be taken with a grain of salt and vetted to see if there is any accuracy to the quote. Quite a few juicy traditionalists quotes are practically made up out of thin air, if not a complete distortion of the words of Paul VI and Bugnini.

*exhales* okay here we go

So yesterday I decided to talk to my dad, one on one, about my vocation. For those that don’t know, I’ve been discerning the Discalced Carmelites for nearly two years and my parents don’t like it. At all.

He said a lot of things that break my heart, but I’m not gonna put them all here. Basically he’s not letting me visit (I’m still a minor) the monastery because it’ll be more “brain-washing”. He doesn’t want me to enter. He thinks I’m throwing my life away, wasting everything I’ve worked for, will be turning my back on the world, not doing any good or helping people, etc. He even called it “nun prison”.

He and my mother can’t reconcile it in their hearts and beg me to rethink it. Doesn’t matter if I never get married or never have kids. Anything but become a Carmlelite, where I won’t have any “freedom” to go anywhere, do anything, see anybody.

I know very well the power of the prayers of the Catholic Tumblr community. So I’m here before you once more, as your sister, begging you to pray that their hearts are softened, that they can come to understand what I’m called to, and that they see the joy it will bring me and them.

Announcement:

Just so y’all know, I’m entering the convent with the Franciscan Sisters T.O.R. of Penance of the Sorrowful Mother in 18 days! (May 31) So this blog is going to go dormant, but I just wanted to let you all know that I’ll be praying for you! 

If you have any specific intentions you want me to take with me send me a message and I’ll jot them down! 

Much love to all of you and many thanks for knowingly or unknowingly getting me to this point in my discernment. It was the tumblr catholic community which really jumpstarted my discernment 5 years ago and without it I might not be entering the community that I love. So thank you all so much for all of your support! May God bless you abundantly!

When gay men doubt their Roman Catholicism...

Some are disappointed that two respected bloggers among the Tumblr Catholic community have come out as gay men and have questioned and basically rejected the Catholic teaching about homosexuality.

From a post on February 2nd at returning-theticket’s blog:

If in good conscience I can’t give assent to this teaching am I now required to leave the Church? Some people would say yes. Some people would also say no. The Church’s approach to contracepting and remarried couples seems to suggest that it’s not so black and white. To be honest I think that because these are all quite contemporary issues the Church hasn’t really fully developed its teachings on how conscience, authority, and participation in the life of the Church all work together.

And here is a post from February 19th from adaltaredei’s blog:

All of this was working perfectly well, until I met someone about a year ago. Things just clicked with this person and I couldn’t suppress these emotions anymore. I finally began to accept who I was, and for the first time I actually felt free from all the hatred I had for myself. We began dating in November of 2013, and I came out to my family and friends in January mainly because I couldn’t help but share him with everyone. I guess all it took was God giving me an incredible gift, to teach me how to love others, and myself. 

First of all, I invite Tumblr Catholics to pray for these bloggers and to encourage them with Christ-like patience. Love them.

My first experience with this shock and disappointment was back in 1983, when a very dear friend of mine in the seminary came out to me.

Although he had been super traditional, a lover of Gregorian chant and Latin, attached to many saints and Marian piety, and well read on the doctrines of the Catholic Church, he confessed that he could no longer accept the Church’s teaching on homosexuality.

He (my seminarian friend) had found a lover at a local parish and they dated, fell in love, and began having passionate sex, to put it mildly. The seminarian was caught in this affair, dismissed from the seminary, and died of AIDS about three years later.

After being kicked out, he later broke off friendships with those of us still connected to the Church as he journeyed through various gay partnerships, cohabitation, deeper immersion into gay culture, and basically rejecting his former life as a traditional Catholic.

In his last days, he reconciled with the Church, confessed his sins with tears, and died a very holy death, with his scapular on and the rosary of Our Lady clutched in his hands.

Dear friends: it is naive–in fact, it is a fantasy–to think that because a man is intellectually well-read about Catholicism or that he is “traditional” that he therefore has some immunity to doubts or even defection from the Catholic Church. I have personally known many close friends who are gay–some stay in the Catholic Church, and some leave the Church, both ultra-liberals and those who are “tradcats.”

And for those who know, I have offered Tridentine Mass in various parishes. In one parish, I offered both Novus Ordo and Tridentine Mass, every Sunday. And yes, I met traditional gay men along the way, although I did not know they were gay at the time and they had not yet come to terms with that. Some of them were very obsessed about the Pope’s “errors” in the liturgy, or bad music, or that the bishop wrote a message that was “orthodox but not sensitive” or whatever in the Catholic Church just gave them reason to be snarky.

One of them, many years ago, yelled at me for not being “caring” enough in a homily. My question to them was based on suspicions I had that our fights were not just about the externals of Catholicism.

My question was, “What’s really going on?” “Why the drama about stuff that is not as essential to our faith?” “Why do you flip between traditional liturgy on one hand and want more sensitive and liberal morals on the other?” One gay priest I knew, who left the priesthood, joked that this was part of an inner fight between order and legalism and what makes you happy and free.

He called it his “lace by day, leather by night” syndrome.

Two things I often repeat to people. 1) You must be honest and know yourself, including your tendency to be blinded and carried away by your own illusions of love and happiness. Don’t think for a moment that being a traditional Catholic, social justice Catholic, or sensitive Catholic, or whatever your agenda is at the moment, will ever substitute for real spirituality, conversion, and holiness. It doesn’t work.

2) The thought that you can rationalize and theologize away your sinful tendencies is also an illusion. I have heard these beautiful soliloquies on “conscience” and “self-love.” I also know how overpowering and innocuous it is to be a young man, with raging hormones, madly in love, to feel accepted, to have someone want you and desire to be with you and you with them.

I begged you not to repress and be in denial about your sexual struggles by hiding behind a preachy Catholicism. Now I beg you not to cover up the dung heap of being someone’s whore with pithy talk of modern day bishops and theologians who are great Christians and great whores at the same time.

But like all things which are amorous and flighty, you must realize that this is a poor reason and sorry excuse for rejecting the 2,000 year moral heritage of great saints and doctors. In the end, when you are someone’s ex-piece of meat, you will find that the Catholic community’s confession of Jesus, as she has always confessed, is the one stability which is always stable, as a Rock.

And someday, you will be middle aged like me, or in Tumblr talk, a “creepy old man.” LOL. Your perspective on God and the Catholic Church will no longer be permeated with heady college theories or the passionate affairs of youth. And you will realize that someday, eventually, you will have to do what is the sane and healthy thing to do. 

You will have to balance the mystery of sin and reconcile the mystery of flesh and concupiscence with the mystery of metanoia, the dark night of the soul, and impending death and judgement. And your years of youth, and the things you rattled off to “free yourselves” from the shackles of Catholicism, won’t seem so pithy and wise as once thought.

Why am I being singled out?

I had an exchange with a blogger yesterday, in which this blogger asked why I “seem to enjoy attacking certain blogs.” The answer is that I honestly do not believe I “enjoy attacking” certain blogs.

And I am sorry if anyone feels as if that is my work on Tumblr.  Yet if you check my archive, you might be surprised to see that the perception of me going on the attack against people who are “singled out” is not accurate of me or my ministry.

I have responded to questions, or reblogged, or written commentaries, in over 5,000 posts over a span of two years. There are not even 50 bloggers you can count where I have been critical of them. And these criticisms are against ideas.

Most of the time, I am fielding questions about people’s doubts and problems, or questions about faith. I have no desire to be on the attack against persons, or to “exploit” my collar for “undue legitimacy” but I do attack certain ideas, regardless of who pushes them.

What ideas? Those ideas I find to be of concern, held by certain feminists, pro-choice people, non-Catholic Christians, advocates of different thoughts of human sexuality, atheists, varying political platforms, as well as Catholics who range from very liberal to very traditional in outlook. 

While most people just keep scrolling and are afraid to get into a debate, I admit that I feel the need to speak up and confront an idea that is unhealthy or simply unjust in our Catholic community.

Yesterday, the debate may be about the way we post about others who are accused and should be portrayed as innocent till proven guilty. Tomorrow it might be a debate about Vatican II, women’s ordination, or Pope Francis.

But as tempting as it is for certain bloggers to think so, they are not singled out for attack, I don’t think that this is what I am doing. so much as the ideas of certain bloggers are a form of “distorted truth” which actually ends up not being the truth, which is what Catholics should stand for.

Even in the fights about the sexual abuse of children, the truth that children should be safe and protected is often couched in the idea that entire groups in the Church do not care for children, do not love them, or could not care less about their safety.

Based on the truth of safe environment being important, there is couched a great untruth, and injustice, that anyone in the name of safe environment can be submitted to suspicion, to innuendo, to witch hunts, and to vilification. 

Yes, I attacked that idea. No, it was not personally directed at a certain blogger. I have enough trouble keeping up with the many, many messages and questions that come into my inbox. I have enough trouble keeping up with a parish to run, to have some need to single out certain people.

 God bless and take care, Fr. Angel

Father Angel Sotelo appreciation post.

Hi all.
I was just thinking. We in the Catholic Tumblr community are always asking questions to Fr. Angel Sotelo, and he doesn’t ask for anything in return. So I’d just like to say a massive thank you to Fr. Angel, for all the work he does for us here on Tumblr, he is our online Chaplin, always there for us and willing to answer our questions and to help defend the faith. So thank you Father for all the work you do. If you are reading this please say a Hail Mary, Our Father and a Glory be for Fr. Angel. God bless

So I was thinking of all the friends I’ve made on Tumblr through the Catholic community while I was at Mass today.

I know I’ll probably never meet any of you guys face to face (and if I do, prolly won’t recognize you), but HOW COOL IS IT that every Sunday we are all joined closer than any group of friends, co-workers, or family. We get to share in the Divine life of Christ with every other receiving Tumblr Catholic.

I’m so grateful for you all. *High five* from your sister still basking in the light of the Eucharist.

Prayer Request for my Priest!

My former associate pastor, who’s now a pastor at another parish, is having a minor surgery tomorrow(8/23/16). He has a deviated septum and an underdeveloped sinus cavity. Basically a lot of sinus problems.

If you could please please please say a prayer for him. He’s quite nervous even though it’s just a minor operation. The recovery could be painful. He’s like a brother to me, and a very dear friend. I trust in the power of the Catholic Tumblr community. You guys rock.

@catholic-christian

Anon asked:

Back to the question of moderating posts in the Catholic community, do you have suggestions?

Hello anon: Yes, I do. I’ve been giving this thought. There is a group called the “Confraternity of Catholic Clergy” which I belong to, having groups in Australia, the United States, and England. It is not enough to be a Catholic priest to join. We all sign a common Mission Statement, or a statement of our values which are non-negotiable.

I believe that bloggers who wish to be listed as Catholic blogs in the Tumblr Catholic community should agree to a common Mission Statement of shared values also, from which you do not deviate if you wish to be considered listed in the Tumblr Catholic community.

“This is a Mission Statement I would propose:

1) I accept and promote the doctrine of faith and morals proposed by the Pope and the bishops in communion with him, even if these have not been taught as dogma but are part of the ordinary Magisterium of the Catholic Church.

2) If I am struggling with certain Catholic teachings, on my blog, I do so with deference to the Holy Father and the bishops in communion with him, and with respect to them as the final and sole authoritative voice for what is and is not Catholic teaching. Saying "the Church is wrong” is not deferential respect.

3) While respecting that Catholic doctrine unites us, I will also respect that applying the doctrine can take different forms pastorally. I will respectfully discuss these differences. While sarcasm or anger might enter a discussion, I will focus on the ideas and not the person. At no time will I address fellow Catholics bloggers with expletives, blasphemous, or vulgar expressions.

4) My mission is to love my fellow Tumblr Catholics, to build them up as a Communion of Saints, to form friendships and help to heal their wounds, to pray for them, to forgive them when they offend me, but to call them to accountability when they depart from our common mission.

5) With my fellow Catholics, I will encourage frequent confession, reception of Communion every Sunday, Eucharistic adoration, recitation of the rosary and all Marian devotions, the purity of body and soul, and will venerate and hold sacrosanct the memory of the saints and all their holy counsels. I will shun and keep from my blog whatever is blasphemous, sacrilegious, and pornographic.“

I think these five points are what you find in most respectable Catholic forums on the internet and would be a good vision for us to embrace for the purpose of sowing unity in a divided Tumblr Catholic community. Those bloggers who accept this Mission Statement can reblog and state their personal acceptance of it. God bless, Fr. Angel

Updates of the Tumblr Catholic Community

Hello Everyone:

I’ve been doing some blog maintenance and so turned off the ask box for a few hours.

In my ask box, I sometimes get blog recommendations for blogs of the Tumblr Catholic community. The reason I am very hesitant to give those out is because the Tumblr Catholic list has changed dramatically according to who was on that list and whether they are even around Tumblr anymore.

The joyful news is that in the two years I have been on Tumblr, having started the Fatherangel blog in June of 2012, there has been considerable growth. By growth, I mean not only that more Catholics have manifested themselves as Catholic on Tumblr, but many converts have happily been received into the bosom of Holy Mother Church.

As well, a number of our formerly active Catholics have entered the seminary, the convent, or religious life. Others have begun to actively date and pursue jobs and careers after college. Understandably, they don’t have as much time anymore.

The sad news is that many excellent bloggers who were very active in the Tumblr Catholic community are no longer around.

A few have left the Catholic Church to pursue sexual curiosities, new lifestyles, or have converted away from the Catholic Church to various interesting philosophies or political movements. This is almost always the case with the younger Catholics. The older adult Catholics, as few of us as there are, stay with the Church because as you get into your 30’s and 40’s, you become pretty settled in your choices about God and religion, or lack thereof.

Other Tumblr Catholics are around, but they don’t feel comfortable with the more “conservative” or “papacy-focused” Catholicism in much of the TC community, so they prefer to run around in a more mixed circle that varies from liberal Protestants to Episcopalian to LGBT advocacy churches of various stripes. That is fine. To each, his or her own.

There are hundreds of Catholics blogs that keep in constant communication with me. Amongst ourselves, we have formed some pretty tight friendships, for which I am profoundly grateful. As best as we can, we try to welcome the newcomers and make them feel included.

And there are active Catholic blogs that have come to the conclusion that I am too controversial or intense of a Catholic figure to deal with LOL. They have either blocked me or avoid me like the plague. That is fair, because as a priest, I am certainly not, nor ever have been, conventional or in accord with the stereotypical priest.

Although I have no right nor do I claim to be anyone’s leader, I simply want to encourage all the Tumblr Catholics to press forward in the holy spiritual battles for our immortal souls. Keep up the blogging and keep up the loving and caring for each other. 

Together, let us strive to get to know each other in such a way that we support each other, under our wonderful Pope Francis, to carry on the Catholic Mission of Tumblr. I pray for you and enjoin you to pray for each other at all times, especially offering Holy Communions and rosaries for your Tumblr brethren. 

Most of all, let us strive to work for the goal that each and every Catholic who reaches out to us in the ancient Faith of our ancestors, and loyal to the Magisterium, will find fraternity and also not be afraid to fraternally correct each other until we attain the image of Christ on earth, and the Beatific Vision in heaven.