Lmao I have to ask if you've heard JonTron's interview with Destiny on YouTube holy shit this guy
ive had a number of asks like this on top of a posting backlog i want to get to.. i mean
OK so i went to check it out and:
this horsehit is 2 hours long…
i was gluing manga to a wall and cutting out lil jebs and gabs to hide on it while i listened to it because fuck (below is the cut out sheet i made lol)
so i had my email open to write notes for later and this is what i wrote, no fixes or anything:
destiny is wrong -> 14 mins -14:30
both dumb at 16
mins for the commies and nazis statement. destiny is compared to
commies for noooo reason?? I dont think destiny is backed up by communists???? as a bizarre kneejerk TU QUO QUe when jon
tron is thrown a guilt by association argument from destiny because of
the neo nazi followers of his. destiny says nazism is a race ideology while communism is an economic thing, i cant wrap my miand around thisis. he has no idea what hes talking about. jon tron dumb cant adequently adders it either
none of them are using gaslighting right
jon tron loves saying tribalism
at 18:40 desitiny
is ignorant as fuck with regards to riots. because he hasnt heard about
it, therefore it doesnt exist, which is is about one of the most
frustrating fucking things about this shitty clusterfuck of a debate
besides jon tron asserting random made up facts and imploring destiny to
look it up. Jon tron laughs and references the boiling frog analogy fittingly.
Jon tron continues to bring in
international examples while dentiny tries to reel it back to the USA
and the USA alone. This is annoying on two fronts:
1. Jontron is merely
refering to situations rather than go in depth, such as compare tibet to
“displacing white perople” when what ttibet is experiencing is hardly
comparable to american white flight since the chinese are engaging in
conquest/imperialism/ethnic cleansing and the west just simply isnt replacing their own
population enough on their own for their corporate overlords tastes, so immigration fills the economic growth hole for better or for worse in their super simplified concept of economy (see: economies stop growing when ethnic civil strife brings it to ruin). but
destiny doesnt have a clue what happens outside of his boiases. ;et alone
the country, to even call him out, howeever when destiny has the proper
misinformation, he will assert things like how japan is dying off or
worse off for its homogenity without backing up his argument as well.
which is a sign of liberals generally being ignorant to world issues
unless their favoured media makes it a big deal ie with japan needing immigration. It’s clear both jon tron and destiny are parroting shit in hilariously broken, scatter shot fasihion
thinks america is the most diverse country in the world, which is
fucking wrong. Both of these asshoelss are throwing out garbage
statements that are flat wrong that benefit their respective close
minded, unresearched biases. Niether of them know any better so they
cant even properly dismantle eachother’s argument. Clearly jon tron, nor
destiny showed up to the debate with notes or preparation, which is a
given considering they are both hot headed gamer shithead youtuber Know-It-Alls becuase they heard something in passing before and just throw out
the garbled memory of that soething in debate.
tron thinks white people are more libertarian?? for some reason?
destiny throws out a garbled statement akin to that MY THING WAS MADE IN
THIS COUNTRY WHICH HAD PARTS IN THAT COUNTRY DESIGNED BY THAT COUNTRY
YADDA YADDA DIVERSITY IS AMAZING when all these components werent built
by americans but by different nation states engaging with others/.
37 minutes jontron says rich blacks commit more crime than whites, with
no source but smugly tells destiny to look it up, confounding the shit
out of destiny and the chatroom becuase hes put the burden of
researching a fact that doesnt exist on his opponent.
42, destiny is called a virtue signaller by jon tron, who is running
through a list of things he learned a week ago on a mr metokur video to
call destiny, which is every bit as cringe and awful to watch as the
australian mp who called another sitting member of government out for
desinty throws back a solid
rebuttal that jontron side steps going “what im saying is…” and
totally fuckign forgets what destiny even said 10 seconds later because
jon tron is running through his recently learned, stupid diluted
“”facts”” rather than listen and speak to any argument of destiny’s,
especially in cases like this when destiny lands a solid question
45, destiny gussies globalization with how its great and necessary it
is and how cutting off bringing in workers to make stuff in the usa (spoilers: jobs leave the USA, not come in) and trade would lower american
standard of living since iiphones will be worth $3000 which is the most
liberal, whitest fucking statement of argument because, while yes,
iphones would get more expensive, but at least they arent being made in
slave labour assembly plants where workers commit mass suicide in
protest to their working conditions and that the west isnt pilfering the
future leaders and skilled workers from these societies that need them
destiny, true to his ignorance, thinks cheap shit is awesome because its made elsewhere, unaware that it’s only so cheap because people die and get crippled in hot, unregulated slave labour factorys making his shitty overpriced electronics
desinty is right though that the american
identity goes beyond just being white, because american culture is
informed by its various ethnic gorups and peoples, for example it’s
black community that does a disproportionately great job of
establishing culure, music, activism and art for america as a whole
tron again doubles back, shifts the subject to other shit and starts
talking about balkanization upon facing a solid argument
48 i start to lose my fucking mind because they are talking at
eachother and jontron accuses destiny of deflecting when it is jon tron doing
all the deflecting. jon trons smug laughter is grating
tron has to rely on telephone game “MUH EUROPE” over and over because
he cant acknowledge that america is exceptional in how it assimilates
and functionas as a melting pot in a way that europe fucking cant, which is creating the situations jon tron fumbless at with greasy game controller fingers to conflate with the USA in the first place.
then claims that germany’s economy is doing great because of taking in
refugees, here again he is talking out of his rose tinted ass because not only is it too early to tell if they are mkaing germany money or not, but that the reality is that they are likely a net drain on the germany given other countries and historic precedent
at 50 mins destiny thinks anti-abortion is a white christian thing, further enshrinign his white, middle class, youtuber ignorance. i guess catholic latinx or muslims are pro-choice
at 1 hour desinty says “its ok to keep a country frfom progressing as much as it can in order to maintain a rcaial identity"destiny
clarifies it as “stifling growth” which is exactly what jon tron was
asserting, to which he goes yeah dude, japan etc and this fucking knob
destiny asks jon tron why he came to america instead of japan then,
thinking his strawman homerun is about to take off - until jon tron says
he was born in amerca.. destiny goes “oh… well… y-your parents///
ijjuhhhUHH FUCK IM NOT TALKING ABOUT JAPAN IM TALKING ABOUT TEH UNITED
STATES!!! which is about the best backfire ive seen all debate long considering the smug setup for it destiny had. furhtemore, what the fuck does “progressing” entail?? Neve raxplained
is funny because when it isnt a country desinty can use as an argument
against jon tron, destiny shrieks IM TALKING ABOUT AMERICA to disguise
his ignorance unless it befits him (japan)
soon after though, destiny catches jontron on his shit about slowing immigration down so they can “enter the gene pool”
jontron couldve articulated around this but jontron is a moron, so, he just stutters and gets walked all over
i want to stab jon tron. laughing nervously is anot a good cubstitute for a credible argument
destiny stinks, though he fucking is destroying jon tron because jon
tron is regurgitating even more regurgitated shit arguments gleaned
from someone else than destiny, who at points is arguing from his own values.
i have stopped paying attention rea
“that is what im talkibg about” -jon tron, who cant articulate what the fuck hes trying to verbal diarrhea for himself
“my oral ulterior motive is to maximize economic growth, and to maximize the slice of the pie for everybody in the united states” -destiny
disposition is clearly and decisively about maximizing economic growth,
but it rests upon ignorant hopefulness that these immigrants will
arrive and abandon their cultures and become “american"this simultaneously exposes destinys humanitarianism as self serving (so long
as it leads to economic growht:) ) which is partly why the immigration
model in countries like sweden have completely collapsed (jontron
touches on sweden but clearly has no fucking clue besides MUH RIIOTS)
beause they took on an ABSURD amount of migrants and immigrants thinking
it will pay for itself and transform sweden into a post-ethnic nascent
economic power like a jr. america, except what the swedes have done is
import a shit ton of people to be a “humanitarian superpower” and threw the lot of them into commie block ghettos and stopped
caring about them, assuming they would naturally become swedes, permitting the transformation of these immigrant
slums and neighbourhoods into economic and cultural parallel societies that frequently are
violent toward swedish authorities and outsiders visiting their area, hence the
term “no go zones” where police are instantly attacked and services
like ambulances require escort.
“how do you grow an economy if the populatio n is dying off” says destiny, unaware that people can reproduce and will do so the moment people die off enough for real estate prices to collapse from housing supply outpacing demand and wages to skyrocket and make living costs manageable to have enough children to make replacement rate. You know. Naturally rise and fall and rise again. as humanity has done naturally for fucking ever and has fared PRETTY WELL without having to drive the environment and civil stability into the shitter for the ponzi scheme INFINITE GROWTH meme. Destiny argues this yet has no fucking clue what he’s arguing for. fuck destiny, fuck this argument, fuck “economic growth” that means demand from immigration and globalization that makes 600 square foot apartments cost $750,000 and ramshackle crackhouses cost $2million in vancouver. wow, im really feeling the economic growth, fucker.
jon tron brings up the disproportionate violence of black youths, but when asked to explain that, jon tron backs out and laughs about how destiny asking jontron to clarify that point is just like those shows on CNN where people are trying to “TRAP YAH”
Yah, jon tron, it’s called backing up your argument
jon tron jesterly mentions crime rates being consistent across africa when destiny addresses the court systems in america, as if jon tron’s hints toward his earnest views on race were subtle enough
destiny asks jon tron to name 5 african countries
i am finding myself wishing i were arguing in place of eachotehr, because i see where they are both coming from but are too busy screwin g up their delivery to actually win a point over eachother
they are literally just talking at eachother and calling it a debate
Jon tron accuses destiny of bringing up irish and italians when its convenient
…as if jon tron doesnt bring up MUH YUROP and other whatevers when it’s convenient.
i hate this
they both suck t this. Jon tron has dug a hole through the earth and is now reaching escape velocity with his shovel and is soon to break earths orbit
jon tron brings up turks and iranians being able to assimilate into a culture than a romanian and hungarian would. If jon tron were knowledgeable to pursue this point, he couldve described how Kurds (an iranian people) and turks often fight and engage in conflict with each other in say, Germany to the dismay of germans who expected these groups to assimilate, forget their animosities from their homeland and become good forklift simulator playing germans.
i ahve wasted my hour
i like how i stopped keeping track of time on the video and just started ranting, rambling at the halfway point
I loved it for moments like this tho:
i feel jon tron is going through a PHILOSOPHICAL AND INFORMATIONAL BLOSSOMING which i guess is taking the red pill for some people. So he is on the same tier as a 16 year old who just discovered holohoax and bell curve graphs for the first time on a 4chan thread loaded with A. Wyatt Man drawings.
He will eventually (hopefully) research for himself these positions if only because he’s constantly being stomped and fighting people over these regurgitated opinions. Which means he is going to try and read up on them to better argue them. Which means he is going to have a hangover of sorts when he realizes what he’s done lol
Do Daft Punk fans intentionally forget that the boys where in Tron: Legacy? That the Legacy costume designers created intricate costumes and a booth for them with amazing digital graphics?
That Disney Orchestra teamed up with them to create the whole soundtrack for the movie? That the soundtrack was SO good that other artists did covers of them and that Disney authorized a CD of all the covers for sale? And that Disney created special edition vinyl releases of the Legacy soundtrack?
That Disney then included the original soundtrack in the Legacy video game and TV show?
That they were also in a music video with Olivia Wilde that paid homage to the original Tron?
Why do the fans forget that Daft Punk was in the movie not as a two second cameo, like Skrillix was in Wreck-It Ralph, but as real life characters that are part of the storyline?
Why does everybody forget this era of Daft Punk’s discography?
I imagine they’ll turn the villain into a protagonist, just like they did with Maleficent. We’re getting all of these live-action adaptations on Disney properties, yet they still won’t make Tron 3. In my opinion, Tron 3 seems like it would be a much better project than Cruella.
Geektyrant’s Joey Paur on Disney’s upcoming project “Cruella”, spitting truth once again.
I'm actually one of those people who does the "I don't ship X, but I dig this art" thing, mostly because I don't want whoever followed me with the express purpose of seeing shieth content to think I'm going to start reblogging klance on the regular. I don't do it very often, but I will say that I don't think people tagging like that mean to offend. I certainly don't. In fact, I always viewed it as higher praise in a way - "your art's so good I don't even care what the subject is". Still bad? :(
its not bad–maybe it’s just me…bc lately it’s been annoying to see??? like i dunno i just get so tired of those comments bc this isnt the first time this has happened even with vol//tron. i understand why you do it and if that’s comfortable with you then keep doing it, i’m not trying to force you to stop doing it–i was just salty.
Again I like Shark but I feel like they made his character and had no idea what to do with and just wanted to sell his cards. He’s first shown as the school bully but in Zexal ll they make him out to be a secret softy who would do anything for his sister. Like I get character development and Shark DOES have some arguably more than a good chuck of the cast. But his character is so floppy. Like did they even know at the beginning that he was going to be a Barian?? Cause if so then why didn’t they use that in Zexal l as the reason as to why Tron was fucking with him. And they could have given more indication of it like resistance to numbers or smh. Like Rio I believe with being a Barian cause she had all that weird shit and number vibes and visions but nothing for Shark even tho you gave him more screentime and development
Maybe the whole he can do a chaos rank up xyz change though the fact that Yuma can do that and we just thought he was a regular person till the end of the series does make that iffy. But like @reijiakabutt said Yoshida’s characters don’t really think, they just do what is the more angsty. Is Yoshida a fanfic writer or something?
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