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Research:Large to Small Scale, Avoiding Homogenizing East Asian Cultures, & Paralleling Regions Appropriately

I’m currently working on a project set in a secondary world, but with nations that roughly correspond to major cultures in our world. 

By that I mean I’m trying to create amalgamations of cultural groups. For example, one country corresponds to Germanic cultures, one to Celtic, one to Mediterranean. There are, so far, also countries that correspond to Eastern Asia - a mixture of Japanese, Chinese and Korean, mainly - South America, “Arab countries” and so on. My first question, in that regard, would be whether or not this concept - creating a “vibe” that reads Eastern Asian, for example, but is not one specific culture - is offensive and if it is, what I can do to solve it. 

The project I’m working on makes use of so called FaceClaims, which means that, for example, actors are used to represent fictional characters. If I based the country on China alone, then I could only use Chinese FCs and would thus greatly limit the representation. A solution I thought of was to have each country be inofficially split up in itself, so the “East Asian” country would have a “Chinese” region, a “Korean” region and so on.
Secondly, I have a desert region that I thought would be nice for an “African” (I am very much aware that there is no such thing as an “African culture”, so bear with me) cultural group. For this “country”, I thought of a loose union between different nations of people. There, I’m stuck - should I choose one region in Africa, let’s say West Africa, and base each nation on one specific peoples there? Or should I create my own “African-inspired” cultures? Or should I choose cultures from all around Africa and base a nation on each?

My third question goes along a similar line: The “cultures” I have chosen for the countries are by far not all there are in the world. There is no country for Native Americans, for example, none for South-Eastern Asians (unless I integrate them with my “India”), no Central Asian, etc. I know it is impossible to include all cultures there are in the world, but how do I choose which ones to represent in a concept like mine? I don’t want to exclude them, but I simply cannot create as many countries as there are cultural groups.

One possible solution I thought of specifically refers to Jewish people, since I feel it is important to represent them more in fantasy writing. My current idea was to have their story go similar to that of our world: Exile, long travels, and a split into groups, one of which would be the Ashkenazim, living somewhere near the Germanic country, and the other would be the Sephardim, which I imagined to live in between the “Arab” and “African” country, in a semi-autonomous city-state. But is it offensive to adapt what happened to the Jewish people in a secondary world or should I make it so that they have a more positive past and life, no exile like there was in our world? As far as I know, the exile is an important part of Jewish identity and cultural understanding, but I thought I’d ask anyway.

I’m going to preface this that some of this wording might sound very harsh, but I recognize you are genuinely asking out of a place of respect but you just aren’t sure what the best way to respect the world’s diversity is. The problem is it’s still not quite respectful enough, and shows sometimes glaring ignorance of nuances in the region.

I would also like to remind people that just because your exact question hasn’t been answered to the full scope you’re looking at, doesn’t mean you can’t get an answer as a whole. For example, we’ve discussed the concept of how and when to mix different cultures in the East Asian tag. Shira will cover your questions regarding Jewish representation below. 

However, I’m going to specifically tackle this from a research and worldbuilding perspective, primarily talking about a history of forced homogenization and how to avoid recreating colonialism/imperialism.

Notes on Language and False Equivalences

For starters, basically all of these groups are too broad. By a long shot. Either they flatten sometimes dozens to thousands of cultures (“Native American country” is in the thousands, “West Africa” is in the hundreds, “China, Japan, Korea” is in the dozens, if not hundreds, same deal with India). This language use makes people pretty uncomfortable, because it implies that the basis is stereotypes. It implies you haven’t done research, or, at least, haven’t done enough. When discussing nuance, it’s best to imply you understand there is nuance— like you did with Africa and Jewish culture, but neglected to do everywhere else.

You also go very broad with all non-European cultures, but narrow down a general homogeneous part for your European analogues, by picking Germanic and Celtic.

This double standard is something that is exactly what we try to draw attention to at WWC: to our ears, it sounds like “I’m taking Germanic peoples for Europe, but I’m going to mix three East Asian countries because those two regions have the equivalent amount of sameness that I can pass it off.”

While that sounds specific to just you, it’s not. We’ve received this type of question dozens of times in the past and it’s a general cultural attitude we’ve faced lots and lots and lots of times. Western society makes you think the equivalence is equal, because they’ve flattened all non-European countries with the single broadest brush, but it’s not.

I would also caution you on relying on media images for face claims, because media images only represent the idealized version of beauty. We’ve written multiple description guides that point out how much variety exists within all ethnic groups and how people seeing us as all the same is a microaggression.

You are right that you can’t tackle all of the world’s diversity into your worldbuilding, because, well, there is so much. The core of your question is basically how to narrow it down, which is what I’m going to tackle.

My suggestion is twofold: 

  1. Research big, top level things, over a few centuries— namely, keep track of empires that have tried to take over places and look at what groups Western society lumps together when it spreads multiple regions.
  2. Build small with a focus on a very specific place and group— namely, pick the smallest possible region you can and see what you have to build from there.

Researching Big

Researching big helps you catch what not to flatten, or at least, where flattening might be reinforcing situations that a government perpetuated. I’m going to focus on East Asia since that’s the bulk of your question, and it’s also where I’ve spent some time worldbuilding. The principles apply to all groups you’re trying to research.

East Asia— namely Japan, Korea, and China, although that is an oversimplification itself— is composed of two empires: China and Japan. This makes homogenization extremely risky because you’re touching two nerves of countries trying to take over in very recent history.

China has taken over a very large swath of land over centuries, and still has independence fights to this day from their recent history. As a result, they have both a roughly overreaching culture because the empire is so old, and a very fractured culture with over 50 recognized ethnic groups. When you think of “Chinese” you usually think of the dominant Han Chinese, but because of its old empire roots you can get a giant variety. In modern day, some provinces have kept their individual culture, while others have been part of China for so long there is a general “sameness” to them that can capture the flare you want.

Japan’s imperialism is similarly recent, only ending in 1947, and it left wounds across the Pacific (including Korea, China, Taiwan, the Philippines, and Malaysia). Many of their actions are classified as war crimes. They’ve also erased their own Indigenous population by insisting only one ethnicity lived in the country. Both of these factors make mixing Japan into an “East Asian” mix tricky. Japan’s culture, while heavily impacted by China and Korea, is pretty distinct because of its island status.

Big research also lets you see the neighbouring areas at a time borders might not have been the same. For example, in the 1600s, China was much smaller because the Manchu External Expansion hadn’t happened yet. As a result, places we now think of as “Chinese” actually weren’t, and you’ll have to account for these differences in your worldbuilding. You can determine this by looking up historical maps/empires, which might require book research (libraries are wonderful).

This does not mean you can ignore recent history, however. Because the story is set in modern day, people will be viewing it through a modern lens. You need to research both the modern and the historical context in order to understand how to go about crafting a respectful world.

So that’s stuff you would’ve discovered by big research. By tracking empire movements, you can see where old wounds are and what historical contexts exist within whatever region you’re pulling from. If you take North America, you can see how each individual tribe is cast aside in favour of settler stories; in Africa, you can see how multiple empires wanted to plunder the land and didn’t care who it was; in the Middle East, you can see both the recent military involvement, the historical Ottomans, and the historical Persians.

Build Small

You can also see what empires influenced their regions for long enough to create a similar-ish culture throughout multiple regions, which can help you extract the essence you’re looking for. I would add a very large caution to only do this for historical empires where those who suffered under the regime are not fighting in present day/ have living memory of it (such as incorporating too much of England, France, or Spain in the Americas, along with the two examples above).

Now you can build small. If you wanted to give a sense of, say, coastal China with a heavy amount of trade, you can pick a major port city in China and figure out the pluralism in relation to that city. What parts identify it as Chinese (architecture, governance, food, general religious practices— folklore changes by region, but the general gist of practices can remain similar enough to get a vibe), and what parts are borrowed from a distinct enough culture they’re noticeably different?

By going from a city level, you can imply pluralism by throwing in asides of differences “out there” that shows you’ve thought about it, without cramming your world full of cultures you can’t fit in the plot. You can then also narrow down what to include based on map proximity: if there’s an easy sea or land path to an Egyptian analogue, you’re probably going to at least hint at it. This is a known historical trade, btw. Egyptian blue and Han purple are made of similar substances, pointing to an ancient cultural link.

You can research this by simply googling the country and looking under its history in Wikipedia. If you look up “China”, you can see “Imperial Unification” as one of its history points. “Japan” similarly gets you the Meiji period. Turkey shows the Ottoman empire. You can also look up “empires in [region]” that will give you a similar overview. This even works for places you don’t think have historical empires, such as North America (the pre-colonization section notes several).

This also is a starting place for what the borders would’ve been during any given time period, and gives you places to potentially factor in military involvement and recent strife. This is where modern research comes in handy, because you can get an idea of what that strife looked like.

Hope this gives you an idea how to go about worldbuilding a diverse population, and how to avoid paralleling recent wounds. 

~ Mod Lesya

Regarding Your Jewish Characters

I think it’s valid to reflect our real history in fantasy although if you dwell too much on the suffering aspects and not the “richly varied cultural traditions” aspects you’ll probably lose some of us because suffering-porn written from the outside gets old fast (if you’re Jewish yourself you 200% have the right to write this, of course.) Human Jewish characters living in pockets in fake-northern-Europe and fake-Mediterranea and fake-North-Africa (or even Fake China and Fake India; we’re there, too) is actually injecting some well-needed historical accuracy back into a genre that’s been badly whitewashed, gentilewashed, etc by imagining a Europe where nobody but white gentiles existed until they conveniently popped into existence during whatever era the writer thinks is appropriate.

In other words, if your fake Germany has a Jewish neighborhood in its largest city, that’s a way of making pseudo-European fantasy more realistic and less -washy, and is overall a good move, despite the fact that the destruction of the temple is the reason we were in Germany in the first place. (I mean… it’s not like you’re planning on sitting there writing about Tisha b'Av itself, right? You don’t have to say “And the reason there are Jews here is because a bazillion years ago, we wound up getting scattered” just to have Jews.)

By the way, having myself written secondary-world fantasy where entire countries, plural, get to be majority-Jewish, and 100% free of on-screen antisemitism, I think both ways are valid.



(taps mic gently) uh hi yeah i swear i didnt forget about @lucretiaweek i just got super super busy with work and sketches r all i have time for i’m so sorry i swear i’ll finish these laterz Thank You For Your Patience 

anonymous asked:

Who would you cast as Katara in a live action movie?? I always imagined a native American girl playing her, what do you think?

I found this woman today, and I’ve been obsessing over her. 

Pooja Mor, an Indian supermodel. She actually left her studies in India, told her parents she was going on vacation, and when to Delhi to try fashion modeling. That seems like a very Katara thing to do— take a daring risk and work hard until it pays off.

anonymous asked:

aaHHHHH IT'S OPEN!!! HELLO!!! THANK YOU!!! Do you have any fics where either kai or ksoo is kinda neglected or under appreciated by other people?

So this request was super fun, hopefully these work for you! Thanks to wtfuckaisoo for helping with this list! enjoy!

Artificial Lover: Ongoing. Jongin’s twin dies and his parents get him an exact copy of him as an android, only Jongin hates him. 

But I Can’t Tell You If You Run Away: Ongoing kidau, Jongin is an orphan runaway and Kyunsgoo rescues him and hides him in his bedroom 

Primitive: Ongoing. Kyungsoo’s tribe casts him out for being gay and he gets found and helped by Jongin’s tribe

We Pick Ourselves Undone: One shot Kyungsoo is a zombie who is looking for love, but no one wants to date a zombie

A Piece of Me for You to Keep: one shot. I can’t tell you how Jongin is underappreciated or it will spoil, also kind of Kyungsoo here too for what he is really like. Kyungsoo is an idol who unknowingly goes and meets his old best friend at a hospital <3

Mannequin: One shot. Jongin has aspergers and people are assholes to him and he is obsessed with the mannequin in the store he works at who he calls Kyungsoo

Not Just in Fairytales: Ont shot. Kind of hurt comfort. Jongin has been in a bad relationship and Kyungsoo takes care of him

Save Me: One shot. Jongin is homeless and gets rescued by Kyungsoo’s family

A Beautiful Burden: One shot. Jongin has PTSD and Kyungsoo stays and takes care of him and no one understands why 

Help Me Live: One shot. Kyungsoo is disabled and Jongin becomes his tutor, but Kyungsoo’s sister makes things hard

The man whose hair didn’t change colors: Complete 3 chapters. Everyone has hair that changes colors to reflect their moods except Jongin.

My Alpha: Complete 3 chapters. Kyungsoo in an omega who is in a pack who sort of abuses him

Sanctuary: Ongoing. Jongin is a cat hybrid that no one wanted and is aloof and Kyungsoo brings him home and helps him

Without Wings: Complete 5 (short) chapters. Kyungsoo is bullied in school and suddenly starts getting rescued by a mysterious new student

Hybrid Love: One shot. Kyungsoo isn’t wanted because he is a wolf hybrid (not wolf)

friCK!!!!! y’all, i just had a Thought and if someone else has already done this, pls point me in their direction, cause i suddenly have a very serious need for a sheith avatar au. and yes, i do mean the blue people avatar (i actually liked that movie ok let me live). just, like, roll with me for a sec ok:

  • Shiro as the injured vet getting a second chance when his twin brother (rip ryou, i know nothing about you, but unfortunately you have to die for this au to work) dies and he has to take his place on the mission to Pandora (or whatever the Galra home planet would be called….)
  • Just imagine for a second with me. Galra Shiro. Huge, purple, furry Galra Shiro. Blessed.
  • Keith would obviously be the prince of the local tribe in this au.
  • I’d cast Kolivan as Keith’s dad, personally, simply because he’s the leader of the BoM and very chief-like, though I guess you could make it Thace
  • Since we haven’t met Keith’s mom yet, she’d be an OC, mostly based off of Neytiri’s mom in the movie
  • NOW LISTEN Allura would make a KICKASS Dr. Grace Augustine. No nonsense, so excited over discovering new science stuff, just wants to learn from the Galra and their way of life, but only what the Galra are willing to give, ok Allura would ROCK this role
  • Lance as Norm is the BEST. Like, all I can think of is that part during the big battle where Norm’s avatar dies and he gets out there and starts fighting as a tiny lil human against these giant fucking robots, tell me that’s not a total Lance tm move
  • Hunk as Dr. Patel. Close friends with Lance and Allura, and right in the thick of the rebellion (not a lot of info on Dr. Patel, but you could fill in with Hunk’s character and give him a bigger role)
  • For the sake of the au, I’m making Haggar and Zarkon human. Zarkon would probably be Parker Selfridge, willing to kill the Galra, but really his main focus is profit and public image. Haggar, though, would be Colonel Quaritch, the main baddie who ends up co-opting all the power from Zarkon and taking things over, escalating the war
  • Replace the pterodactyl-type guys with flying cat creatures. SHIRO IS CHOSEN BY THE BIGGEST AND BADDEST OF THEM ALL
  • Keith actually having that connection with his past and his people that he wants in the show, but instead of him never having had it, in this au he LOSES that connection (or part of it, when the trees that hold his people’s memories are destroyed) ;A;
  • also, just like, if anyone made art for this, ALL THE GLOWING FLORA AND FAUNA. BIO LUMINESCENCE FOR THE FUCKING WIN
  • bonus: galra wear practically no clothing 👀👀👀

An injury sustained during a ceremonial hunt reveals that the new chieftain has an inexplicable, horribly unnatural anatomy. There is no one to demand answers of, with Spock’s father recently deceased and mother unknown. The tribe casts him out fearfully, condemning Spock to the desert. 

An uncountable number of days later he wakes from a fever dream to see a strange new moon in the sky. The moon is studded by smaller, brighter lights, and most surreal of all, appears to be moving ever closer. Perhaps I am finally dying, Spock thinks before the blazing light whites out his vision…


The Revenant Film And The Native American Subtext

The Alejandro González Iñárritu film The Revenant film brings that visceral vibe he’s known for to the forefront not seen since his Amorres Perros where each character not only wants revenge but his own form of redemption.

Upon viewing The Revenant I realized it is not as much a film about vengeance, “vengeance is in the hands of the creator”, as much as it is
about the raw selfish human forces that drive people to kill to succeed committing, creating and justifying crimes that eventually force acts of vengeance. In tribal societies vengeance is sometimes a traditional social more. In tribal societies we don’t have much but what we do have is land and family so we fight for those the hallmarks of our amazing existence. What is noticeable Immediately is the somewhat openly hidden subtext of this Alejandro’s film. It explains the historical theft of everything that Native people held lovely and sacred. Our land, our people, our women, our sons, our daughters and our leaders are openly lied to and abused to the point of starvation and domination as alluded to in the “pyramid of buffalo skulls ” scene. We are misled, stolen, raped, tracked, fought, clowned, dehumanized, shamed and finally murdered in the name of commerce, business and intercontinental progress.

We Natives are merely “in the way” to be
removed and exploited in the (name of) progress.
Ironically it took a multi-million dollar budget Hollywood film shot across the world to say and address this in an American film made by a minority (Mexican) director. His vision is not atypical in that vanquished westernized version of Native plight but is one of raw observational truth meeting filmic prowess in a literal battle to be made and seen. Alejandro’s story told through Hugh Glass does use some cliche’ but not enough to make it one. More importantly The Revenant has an expediency and photographic rendering which adds to the bold great mystery that nature produces alone.
The forest becomes a dark beast and of course we Indians become “En Dios ” ( In God ) during the closing scene as living saints but purely justified in our bold but still often misread reasonings.

This film is as beautiful as it’s telling and as raw as the historical Native subtext it unfolds.
The performers ( Native and non/Native ) were believable and both hauntingly familiar. Of course Tom Hardy is the metaphor for the worst America has to offer and Leonardo’s Glass becomes the country looking for not only revenge and redirection but redemption for the sins of his own countrymen in the America WE NATIVES know. This very real subtext we tribal people have lived in now for centuries amidst cultural vultures and users.
Nevertheless for all this I give Leonardo DiCaprio our own #WhatTribeAward for being
a truly stand up guy by repping
and pointing out and respecting the struggle of everyday Native People during his acceptance speech at the Golden Globes. Not since Marlon Brando spoke on behalf of Native American mistreatment at the Academy Awards (turning down his Oscar for The Godfather) has this occurred. Though not the same in historic precedent but the both actors were high profile enough to create a possible new Native point of view ironically in a country that loves
to forget who we are, where we’re from
and just how we all violently got here.


If there was a Tribe movie, would you play your role as Trudy […]?

I think, although I might like to play Trudy because it would always be kind of cool to revisit old characters, I think I’d be too old, because the whole concept of The Tribe is that everyone over the age of eighteen was wiped out as a result of this mysterious virus. So unless I could sort of come back as a ghost, I don’t think I could play her. (x)

pathofsteel  asked:

Ok, so one word that caught my attention from your last response was "warriors". You're saying that Christians in the past were warriors, right? As far as I know, ancient Europeans put a lot of emphasis on war, strength and bravery. I've also seen some information online claiming that Christianity is basically a Middle Eastern religion which retains a lot of pagan rituals and concepts. Do you believe ancient European beliefs shaped Christianity in any way or do they have nothing in common?


Yes, the Christians of the past were more in touch with a warrior spirit; the zenith of this being the Crusades. Though it wasn’t purely attached to physical combat. The ideal also existed in spiritual warfare, especially in the monastic orders. In fact, during the Crusades, these two planes - physical and spiritual - were combined to create military orders like the Knights Templar and the Teutonic Order, which melded the values of knighthood with monasticism. This represents the ideal form of higher man; using the material realm to reach a transcendent ideal. In this case, physical combat in defence of Christians and Christian lands as a path to God.

This spirit originates in the ancient European, yes. To be more exact, the Germanic/Nordic European. It’s commonly referred to as the Faustian or Solar race. It made its way into Christianity via the conversion of the Germanic pagans in Late Antiquity and the Early Middle Ages. Christianity has a history of openness towards pagan ideals and folklore so long as it didn’t contradict the dogma of the Church; so this is nothing strange or unique.

The Germanic pagans of that time had a culture based around social hierarchy, tribal loyalty, military sacrifice, and heroism. This manifested in Christianity in the ideas of Christendom as tribe, the caste system of Medieval Europe, Just War and the Crusades. The peak of this ideal being Charlemagne, the Carolingian Empire, and the Carolingian Renaissance.

Since the Reformation and the Enlightenment, there has been a concerted effort to undo the “Germanization” of Christianity i.e. remove it’s heroic ideals, and bring it’s humanitarian ideals to the forefront instead. So instead of slaying our enemies, we’re kissing their feet. And while Christianity obviously empathizes vales like humility and love, it doesn’t mean we’re supposed to give in to domination and subjugation.


i have a lot of feelings about star trek: voyager

anonymous asked:

Hallo! Regarding the gorgeous picture of Spock in torn robes, facing right with green blood down his arm, I was wondering what crazy anatomical difference cause Spock's tribe to cast him out.

Hi Anon!  Sorry, that was kinda cryptic.  Spock is still half-human in my little head story, so I meant whatever crazy hybrid internal anatomy he has— that’s what freaks out all his tribespeople when they patch him up.

(I was envisioning an AU where Earth attains warp centuries ahead of Vulcan but somehow, against all odds, Amanda and Sarek still find their way together and Spock happens.  (Maybe Amanda’s ship is stationed near Vulcan for a purely observational mission, but she totally cocks up the Prime Directive. heh)  Sarek raises Spock on Vulcan and takes the secret of his origin to his grave.  Poor Spock.) 

i really really wish indian culture (and a lot of desi bloggers on here) didn’t glorify gold jewelry so much ://. it’s incredibly classist and, in several ways, deeply entrenched in india’s historically notorious casteism. why else are hindu gods and goddesses so closely related to gold, implying gold is closer to godliness when the truth is it’s actually been associated with evil and kali yug? 

since india banned the dowry system, gold has become the de facto replacement for cash in weddings. “no gold, no wedding” is an actual literal slogan i heard in india when i went a few months ago. any event, from the birth of a baby to the death of an elder involves some exchange of gold. not to mention the mining of gold itself has a horrible history, including child labor, enslavement of lower classes and minority castes, and the exploitation of our subcontinent by british raj. currently, millions of people are exploited for gold, including south asians in west asia/middle east, black people throughout the african continent, and minority castes/scheduled tribes in india itself (there’s a lot of imported gold from china too, but between the media blackout in china and their dictatorship, it is a problem that really needs it’s own post tbh).

this entire “diaspora’s gold is passed down from our ancestors” mentality is pretty damaging considering that if your gold is inherited, you’re probably coming from a pretty privileged family in the first place. millions of indians have had to sell their family’s gold heirlooms just to feed their children or save up to get them an education. continuing to uphold gold jewelry as the ultimate accessory for a bride is only contributing to the mentality that richer = better, that social status is determined by your possession of jewelry.

like, i hear shit all the time about how it’s a practical investment, but why isn’t there more discussion on how toxic gold culture has become?? on how it contributes to wealth inequality? on how many people (usually lower class) are swindled out of their money by purchasing fake or adulterated gold from unreliable sellers? on the fact that a woman not wearing gold at a formal event is mocked and considered too lower class to be seen with her more upper class relatives and friends? on the pressure for girls to be given gold when they reach milestones in their life, or for parents to save up for the gold dowry they’ll inevitably need to exchange for their daughter’s life? gold companies and big corporations are milking the gold mania for all it is worth and i can’t believe how blatantly desi folks keep falling for it, including the newer generations. when is this tradition going to die?

Okay guys but don’t forget
  • There is supposed to be 13 more episodes in this season and then 26 episodes for the next season. So, there is supposed to be 39 episodes in total
  • If I remember correctly, there’s supposed to be 8 Astrid-centric, 8 Fishlegs-centric, 8 Snotlout-centric, and 8 Twins-centric episodes, so if a character didn’t get a lot of screentime (*cough cough* Astrid *cough couch*), they will have screen time eventually. 
  • They have to develop Hiccstrid no matter what, because there is no way they go from where they are in episode one of RTTE to the beginning of HTTYD 2. So I would expect the first few developments to occur at the end of season 3 (which is sometime in December/6 months from now). 
  • We still haven’t seen the villain, Vigo, or the chief of the tribe that was cast. We can only guess they are gong to be in the second half of season one because they were cast so early
  • Every 13 episode drop is probably going to reveal the dragons we can expect before hand, much like they did with the Death Song, the Snow Wraith, and so on. 
  • They still have to continue working on the flight suit and Inferno.
  • They have to eventually develop the love triangle with Ruffnut, Snotlout, and Fishlegs.
  • The story has to be wrapped up in a way that Heather is not on Berk or anywhere of easy access, Dagur is somewhere that he is not a threat, and Dragon’s Edge is left behind.