trauma hunter

  • <p> <b>What she says:</b> I'm fine.<p/><b>What she really means:</b> What the hell happened to The Chimera Ant Arc? I thought Hunter x Hunter was supposed to be 'fun'? Why the hell did Ging make Gon and Kite meet? Why the hell did an innocent kid get eaten? Why the hell did Kite die? Why the hell did EVERYONE died or almost died? Why the hell did my babies have to suffer? Why would you broke my Gon like that? My Killua? Where the heck was Hisoka when you actually need his meddling? What the heck are Chimera Ants anyway? Where did they ALL come from? What was the deal with the Royal Guards (and fuck you Pitou, I hate you no matter what others say)? Why was the King so powerful? Why was there a blind girl? Why do I love the blind girl? WHY DO I LOVE THE BLIND GIRL AND THE NAKED TURTLE KING TOGETHER? WHY THE HELL DID I LOVE A VILLAIN LIKE MERUEM? WHY THE HELL DID THEY HAVE TO DIE TOGETHER? MY HEART.<p/><b></b> AND AGAIN, WHY THE HELL DID GON HAVE TO BREAK? LITERALLY AND FIGURATIVELY. HE'S A SWEET CINNAMON HE DIDN'T DESERVE THIS. AND SO DID KILLUA. THEY ALL DIDN'T DESERVE SUCH MENTAL TRAUMA.<p/></p>

The Orphan of Kos and Gehrman: Thoughts and analysis

  • Aegon of Astora did a video proving that the sobbing sound in the Orphan of Kos cutscene is the same soundbite as Gehrman’s sobbing in his rare “dreaming” dialogue, where he calls out to Laurence and Willem and begs to be unshackled from dreaming. Given that they bothered to splice the new audio of a baby crying into it, this is probably not a recycled asset but a deliberate choice. Gehrman also has another “sleeping” dialogue where he’s addressing Laurence directly, who also happens to be in the Hunter’s Nightmare.
  • After defeating the OoK, the Doll has an extra dialogue where she talks about how she can hear Gehrman sleeping soundly, and that on any other night he would be restless and suffering.
  • This is less concrete, but IMO the OoK is visually and pacing-wise pretty similar to Gehrman. It’s placenta weapon (definitely a placenta btw, if you look closely it’s still connected by umbilical cord) kind of reminds me of the Burial Blade’s cleaving edge and the transformation into it’s second stage feels like Gehrman’s own power-up.

So with that in mind here is what I think happened:

  • Kos washed up dead in the Fishing Hamlet but it was pregnant with child, and this foetal Great One was still alive and gestating inside of Kos’ carcass, subsisting off it’s placenta.
  • When the Byrgenwerth scholars came, they extracted the still-living Orphan from it’s womb, a forced traumatic birth, and performed live experiments on it. This is where they obtained the Third Umbilical Chord that Gehrman kept at his Workshop, the Umbilical Chord that precipitated (accelerated, caused) his encounter with the Moon Presence.
  • EDIT:  I think that Kos’s umbilical chord was split into three and make up three of the four umbilical chords we find in the game. The one dropped by Fakesefka, that she pillaged from Byrgenwerth and was used to ascend Rom; the one used by the School of Mensis, successors of Byrgenwerth, to grant Mensis audience with Mergo; and lastly the one in Gehrman’s workshop that was used to contact the Moon Presence. This is why the note in the Lecture Theatre reads “three one third chords” - it’s actually been split. The one that drops from Arianna, I’m not sure about. I think it might be unrelated and belongs to her own body.
  • Gehrman played a major role in the purging of the Fishing Hamlet and therefore holds an enormous amount of the guilt. The Great Ones are described as being “sympathetic” in spirit, and I think that’s saying that their minds basically work on a similar enough wavelength to our own that they psychically sense and respond to our emotions. Presumably this works both ways, and they are able to impart their own emotions psychically onto us.
  • Revising my theory on the creation of the Hunter’s Nightmare, I now believe that the encounters that pulled the Fishing Hamlet and the original Grand Cathedral into Nightmare were separate. The nightmare Fishing Hamlet was created first, by the ghost of the Orphan of Kos, initially as a prison specifically to trap and torment Gehrman. This event might also have taken place at the Byrgenwerth Lecture Theatre, which is how it became adrift in Nightmare, although it’s more likely that this was a separate event as the Lecture Hall is more of a liminal space between nightmare realms rather than being part of the Hunter’s Nightmare.
  • All of the characters in the Hunter’s Nightmare seem to be suffering an appropriate fate for the sins they’ve committed. Ludwig is a twisted amalgam of all the lives he’s responsible for taking; Laurence burns eternally for his part in the burning of Old Yharnam, Maria is tormented by her failure to protect the Hamlet. The Orphan basically “imprinted” upon Gehrman, and Gehrman’s punishment in the dream is that every time he falls asleep in the Hunter’s Dream he slips into Nightmare and experiences the unimaginable trauma that the Orphan felt, of being torn from the womb broken and incomplete.
  • EDIT: u/FLRSH pointed out that this potentially recontextualizes the game’s endings, something I hadn’t fully considered. “In the vanilla game ending where we kill Gehrman, we’re setting him free to finally die as he should have long ago, except he’s actually going straight to the Hunter’s Nightmare to suffer, likely. By defeating the Orphan of Kos and stopping the curse of the Hunter’s Nightmare, where all Hunter’s go when they die to live out some kind of torturous hell, we’re allowing Gehrman to actually rest in peace when we kill him.” I think that Gehrman’s soul and possibly his body as well is tethered to the Hunter’s Dream - this is the plane in which he “awakens”. When he sleeps in the dream, he slips into the Nightmare. Presumably, killing Gehrman frees him from the Hunter’s Dream but without defeating the Orphan he would become trapped in the Nightmare forever. Perhaps this gives further context to why Gehrman sought ascension into the Dream and is so adamant about remaining there - perhaps his motives weren’t so selfless after all, he could not stand anyone else usurping him as the Moon Presence’s prisoner because it’s the only thing keeping him from being trapped in a far worse fate. I think that maybe Gehrman beckoned the Moon Presence and offered himself up as a surrogate hoping for some refuge (the Hunter’s Refuge, eh??) and the MP, being sympathetic to his plight, granted this to him. But I don’t think that she did this explicitly to combat the Orphan of Kos - her main motivation, if we can even fathom it, is simply to trap hunters in the Dream as surrogates, more or less playing dollhouse with their lives. Gehrman simply used this to his advantage.


Additionally, I’ve been playing around with of the Eye of a Blood Drunk Hunter being an actual portal through which we travel to the Hunter’s Nightmare. The description of the Blacksky Eye describes it’s pupil as vast stretch of black sky, a portal in which a meteor storm rumbles endlessly. The pupil of the Blood Drunk Eye is crushed by the Beast plague but strongly resembles the crushed sun in the Nightmare. Additionally, pretty much all the items that the messengers gift us in the Hunter’s Dream belonged to Gehrman (all the Bells especially) which makes sense because the Dream belongs to him in many ways, so it’s not a leap to imagine that the Eye belonged to Gehrman as well. It might not be his eye, but I believe that it belongs to him, and is portal through which the Nightmare pulls in the souls of Hunters. This is why the Orphan gazes so longingly at the sun, hoping to be freed. After defeating Amelia, Gehrman senses both your curiosity and your potential, and gifts you the eye in hopes that you might free him and his compatriots.

The apparition that hangs out around Kos’ corpse is the true ghost of the Orphan that sustains the Nightmare, with the Orphan that we fight being a constructed body based on Gehrman’s own wizened form. This doesn’t make him any less of a Great One; the Orphan we fight is still definitely the Orphan, only possessed in some part by Gehrman’s consciousness as well. When we destroy the Orphan’s ghost, we finally close off the link between the Hunter’s Nightmare and the rest of the dreamlands, which is why the crushed pupil in the sky disappears. This is why the Doll tells us that Gehrman is now sleeping soundly, having finally been freed from one of the dreams he’s shackled to.

I’m still trying to figure out what to make of the final cutscene and the deeply poetic dialogue in it. “A bottomless curse” probably refers to the curse placed upon the Hunters that traps them and all future sinners in Nightmare (curse the fiends, their children too), while “a bottomless sea” is less obvious. I think there’s a lot of associations between the dreamlands and the ocean - apart from several runes referring to great bodies of water as bulwarks guarding sleep (aka dreaming, I think this is actually alluding to blood and water being a medium through which the dreamlands can be accessed, as with the Moonlit Lake and Rom’s boss room), the Lecture Theatre is described as being “adrift” in nightmare, there’s a lot of ship imagery, etc. I think that the greater dreamlands are the metaphorical ocean, the infinitely vast bottomless sea, and when we destroy the ghost of the Orphan, we also free it from it’s own Nightmare that it had trapped itself in. The Orphan, the sweet, innocent child of Kos, was so consumed by it’s grief and pain that it had isolated itself from the greater dreamlands where the rest of the Great Ones reside and didn’t know how to find it’s way back. In freeing it, we end the curse of the Nightmare and the Orphan is returned to the oceans of dreaming, the infinitely vast freedom where all things are true and possible and accepted.

anonymous asked:

I have really complicated feelings about Mary. I actually like that's she's not some perfect mom and has her own agenda. I like her as flawed. But I just don't like that Dean once again was the one who was made to apologise for how he was feeling. And I'm not happy with how she was basically willing to let Cas die over the Colt (though I guess you can make the argument it wouldn't have mattered much). Idk, maybe I just don't like the choices she's making right now? I get she's lost, but still...

Hey anon, I’m totally with you - I think it’s great so many people seem to have complex feelings about Mary. Because that means she’s not a one-dimensional character, but a flawed, realistic person, as you point out.

I also really hate that Dean is getting the short end of the lying stick again, with Mary, Sam and even Cas at the very end of the last episode. He sure didn’t have anything to apologise for, in my opinion, but it was a good way to not let the situation escalate. He compromised - instead of shutting Mary and Sam out & pushing them away because he doesn’t agree with the stance they’re taking re the BMoL, he chose the more difficult - but imho the more mature - path of “agreeing to disagree” and settle the dispute like that.This allows him to stay close to Mary and Sam, which, I’m sure, he hopes will mean that they start trusting him more. The more you push people away, the more they’ll lie, after all.

And the narrative is obviously going to prove Mary and Sam wrong - the BMoL are going to do something horrible (well, more horrible than they have already been doing and it’ll be revealed to Mary and Sam) - possibly related to Cas - that’ll show their true vile nature to Mary and Sam. So in that sense, I’m pretty sure Dean will be vindicated - in the sense that he’ll be proven right all along.

Of course, this is SPN so it’s likely Dean won’t be able to enjoy that little victory at all, because it’s gonna come at a great price.

Anyway, yes, Mary. It hurt me that she didn’t give up the Colt to (potentially) save both Cas’s and her sons’ lives, but then again as you say Ramiel probably would’ve wasted them all anyway, and she likely realized this. I definitely disagree with some of the choices she’s making, but I understand them. Thinking about where she came from (a family of hunters), the trauma of dying in such a horrible way, getting ripped from heaven and thrown into a world you barely recognize, being faced with adult sons that are physically close to your own age, having to deal with your beloved husband’s death…honestly she’s coping better than I would, that’s for sure.

And her motivation for working with the BMoL comes from a good, albeit misguided place. Remember what a long, long road of character growth Sam and Dean have behind them. The many mistakes they made, often multiple times, with heartbreaking and disastrous consequences. She simply hasn’t had that journey yet (well, she’s learned the lesson about demon deals…). And she deserves to have one, and certainly not be judged more harshly (as some people seem to do) for her mistakes than Sam & Dean (and Cas, too). I think she’s looking for a purpose. And while being a parent is a fine and worthy purpose in life, her children are adults. They don’t need her the same way young children would. They grew up without her, and she just hasn’t connected with them on a deeper level yet - these things take time after all.

I don’t know what her endgame is, but I sincerely hope she survives the end of this season, because I think she’s a fascinating character and also because SPN needs to stop killing off all their women. She could become a multi-season semi-regular! why not?

This got long so I’ll stop here - but thanks for sending this, I was planning on talking about Mary at some point on this blog, and your ask was the perfect opportunity for it.

Harley peered at the table and plucked a full bottle of whiskey from the surface. With that beneath her arm, she grabbed two glasses and turned on her heel. They probably wouldn’t miss one bottle and a few glasses. When she noticed someone had caught her gaze, the brunette tilted her head towards the exit. “Interested?” Her finger then flicked towards the bottle. 

So, I find it a little darkly amusing that almost every episode of Legends of Tomorrow seems to quietly make Rip Hunter’s life just THAT much more depressing.  It’s gotten so that I feel like I should make a list of angst.

1. Dead wife and kid.  Rip starts off with this one and it’s pretty bad.  Wife seemed nice, kid seemed cute.  Dead.  That’s rough, buddy.

2. In the 1975 story arc (episodes 2-3) we also learn that Rip did try to deal with Vandal Savage before the asshole became immortal and kind of flaked out on the deal.  Sorry man, sucks to be a decent guy at heart.  We then see him dragged away by Egyptian guards, fate unknown.  So you have some “I failed!” emotional trauma there, plus unpleasant implications if the guy doesn’t manage to escape soon.

3. In the Russia story arc (4-5), we see an old mentor from the Time Masters.  Said old mentor promises reconciliation: turn yourself over, your friends go home, and all is forgiven.  Rip seems like he’s seriously considering it.  NOPE!  It’s a trap!  Now there’s “mentor wants him dead” angst on top of that.  Yay!

4.  Skipping ahead to episode 7, we get some backstory with Miranda (the wife), who seems great!  We also see, however, that the Time Lords sorry Time Masters are dicks who disapprove of interpersonal relationships between people of equivalent rank, publicly humiliate both, forcing one to decide to give up her career for the other.  That is not a positive workplace environment!

(The 1950s arc had no backstory angst.  It did however establish that Rip did some kind of graduate study on the League of Assassins, which I thought was an interesting character bit.  What draws someone to that?)

5.  Episodes 9 and 10 include the Chronos reveal, which Rip feels very guilty about.  (He was definitely awful to him in episode 7, but I’m not sure I believe Rip when he tells Rory that he’d ordered Snart to deal with him, mostly because Snart doesn’t take Rip’s orders anyway.  Pretty sure any attempt at an order would result in a counter-order to fuck himself.)  I’m not sure this one really counts, but I’ll list it.  We can probably just make it a catch all category for any interpersonal “I endangered the team/got Carter killed/et cetera” angst, and drag in Episode 2, 14, and so on..

6. Episode 10 doesn’t reveal any additional backstory angst, to my recollection, but it has some nice present day angst with the resolution of the Per Degaton matter.  Should have killed the little twit when you had the chance, Rip.  We probably could add in the letting Savage see the images and names of your family (from earlier episodes) in this general professional failure category.

7. Episode 11 introduces some nice ex-boyfriend angst, and the implication that Rip chose his job first.  And well, we saw how the job thing ended up.  So we have breakup angst, and I can’t fuck with the time frame angst, and my boyfriend suffered because of me angst.  Nice.

8.  Episode 12 apparently decided that not all of Rip’s angst should be based around adult experiences.  We can add childhood trauma to the mix too!  Why should this dude ever be happy?  Besides, this means that even when the family issue is resolved, we’ll still have some angst to revisit so Arthur Darvill can look teary eyed for my amusement.  So we have Rip Hunter as a starving five year old thief, whose life experiences were bad enough that at ten, living in a relatively safe space with an adult he trusts, his first instinct is STILL to stab any adult threatening him.

(And this is a guy who flinched twice when trying to kill proven mass murderers!)

9.  Episode 12 also adds some fantastically unpleasant implications when it comes to the Time Masters.  Apparently Time Master recruitment involves finding 10 year old orphans, yanking them out of their timelines, and isolating them in a cute little orphanage with an admittedly awesome Time Mom.  If Rip is a standard example, then we have poor starving traumatized kids, finally given a safe place to sleep, food to eat, non terrifying adult figures, being raised with no external input.  Can we say “recipe for indoctrination” children?  I knew we could!

(The bit with the secret cereal stash was kind of cute, but if you combine it with the fact that he’s still wearing his boyfriend’s coat and the other keepsakes in his office, you get the idea that Rip has a thing for comfort items.  Aw.)

10.  As per Episode 13, apparently one dead wife and child isn’t enough.  Rip went back to save them “countless” times.  Each time to watch them die.  Fun!

11.  Episode 14, adds some modern day guilt angst with Jax, but also some bonus revisiting of number 2 up there.  We finally get to see some of what it was like to be Savage’s prisoner in ancient Egypt!  From what Savage said, we get starvation and dehydration, and possible torture!  Well, you know how it is, he just seemed too HAPPY in that time period.

12.  Oh right, and the organization that raised, fed, sheltered him since age ten or so?  EVIL.  Of course they are.  It was obvious, but it made sense why poor Rip didn’t see it coming.  He was so HAPPY when he thought they’d finally HAVE to do something.  He should have known better.

Also they took his coat.  Burn ‘em all!

Honestly, even for an Arrowverse show, this is a little over the top.  At this point, Rip could start a cute story about little Jonas’s first Easter celebration, and I’m going to expect it to end with “and then I was kidnapped and had to watch the mass slaughter of rabbits while getting whipped by the Pope.”

Sure, Rip Hunter is a terrible leader, but I think he should take it as a win that he’s not fucking catatonic at this point.  Because holy fuck man.