Carisi-centric thoughts on Ep 19x03

Yet another solid episode! This season is going to be a winner. Also, THE BARISI CORNER IS OFFICIALLY BACK :D

But first:

Overall Thoughts

OK, this wasn’t much to write home about, but it was more than serviceable. All three actresses were very good so they kept me engaged, the case was pleasantly twisty but not convoluted, Sonny had significant input as a lawyer (and I loved how Liv was all “we’ll follow Carisi’s suggestion!”) and Barba delivered a heated and eloquent closing argument. I enjoyed it.

Squad Thoughts

More sharing of personal information! I swear, Sonny and Fin have talked to each other more in these last two episodes than they did in the previous 3 2 seasons! And they didn’t need some random case-related segue, either. This week, they were just driving to a crime scene, and they were shooting the breeze on the way there. You know, like normal colleagues do. Like real people do. Not cardboard cutouts. Something small like that, something as silly as stealing candy as a little boy, it can breathe life into a scene which would otherwise be mundane.

The thing is, even when an episode is not as exciting, it’s still worth watching just to see our characters interacting and being friends. That’s what SVU seemed to have forgotten, and it’s also the key to making a watchable procedural. Let’s face it, all the cases have been done before (often by SVU itself, because it’s been on for a hundred years), but the team interactions can )and should) be enough to maintain the viewers’ interest. This season, it’s clear the team dynamics are being cultivated, instead of being ignored, and that makes me happy.

The Barisi Corner


Just like I hoped, it’s like S18 never happened. We’re back to the S17 Barisi dynamic of friendly teasing and inside jokes. In the deleted scene from the premiere, we got the classic “booyah, Fordham law” type of interaction, except in its advanced S17 form. Where in S16 Barba would be biting with his remarks, in S17 and in the 19x01 deleted scene he was just making a joke for the sake of a joke, because that’s what they do. Sonny tries to impress Barba, Barba is totally impressed, and then he makes a joke to pretend he’s not actually appreciative of Sonny’s input.

In this episode, we got an even more advanced interaction. We got Sonny making a smart legal observation not just to impress Barba, but because he wanted to contribute to the case. And, just like in S17, Barba was impressed, and then he used a joke not to diss Sonny, but to praise him.

See, there are two kinds of humorous Barisi interactions.

There’s “Sassy Sonny Tries to Impress Barba” which comes complete with Sonny’s dimples, and Sonny’s smirks, and Sonny’s cocky remarks like, “Oh, Rafael, are you mad you didn’t think about it first?” This type of Barisi interaction always ends with a Barba side-eye and a snarky comeback. When Barba knows that Sonny is flaunting, he’s always quick to shut it down. That’s the joke. Sonny starts blathering on about a hypothetical argument, just to show off his legal skillz, and Barba is amused, but he also acknowledges the alterior motive, i.e. Sonny’s desire to get Barba’s approval.

But then there’s “Dedicated Sonny Tries to Crack the Case” which comes with Sonny’s frown and Sonny’s desire to get justice, and Sonny’s casual use of legal terminology like “obfuscated.” This type of Barisi interaction always ends with Barba subtly praising Sonny, using a joke to cover up a genuine compliment. When Barba knows that Sonny is trying to be helpful, he’s always quick to encourage it. That’s Barba’s favorite thing. Seeing Sonny creatively solving a legal problem with no ulterior motive. Sure, their games are fun, and they’ve been fun for 3 2 seasons now, but at the end of the day they’re both trying to get justice, and Barba loves it when Sonny focuses on their work.

That’s the thing. Both Sonny and Barba have evolved. Sonny used to thirst for Barba’s approval, early on, in S16, but soon after that he found his confidence, and his footing, and his place on the team. He still tries to show off for Barba, because it’s fun, but that’s no longer his main motivator when he speaks legalese. Sonny isn’t a law student looking to get that A, he’s a lawyer looking to get that D. And his actions and words have come to reflect that. Now he doesn’t just state the obvious as Barba jokes “save it for night school.” Now, Sonny has original ideas which can actually help SVU.

And Barba, who treated Sonny so condescendingly at first, Barba has come to see the change in Sonny as well. The humorous element of their interactions persists, because Barba is a snarky bastard, but now those same interactions are loaded with respect. With friendship. With flirtation. Barba is no longer dismissive of Sonny, and hasn’t been for a long while. Barba sees Sonny as a useful presence in the squad, with legal knowledge the other cops don’t possess, and it’s clear he welcomes Sonny’s observations. It’s right there in his smile smirk. Barba is willing to listen, and he’s even willing to entertain the notion that Sonny just might think of something he didn’t, which is beautiful to see :’)

Barisi Hopes

Now all I want is that other type of S17 interaction, the quiet support. Sonny always supported Barba in tougher moments, like the death threats (what death threats lol?), or a trial gone wrong, but Barba also supported Sonny, especially during that Catholic Church case, as we all remember. I’m loving the new showrunner’s tendency to use humor to display the bonds between our characters, it’s just the perfect thing to balance out the grim nature of the cases, but I’d love to see some more muted, more emotional moments between them (between all of them, but Barba/Carisi especially, lol). We have an entire season ahead, so there’s still plenty of time. I’ll be waiting.

For now, I’m just happy the classic Barisi dynamic is back.

I’ve said it time and time again, and I don’t even mean romantically (that’s what fic is for). Those two characters, Barba and Carisi, they have a dynamic that’s gold. Clashing personalities (Sonny is dorkier, Barba is more sarcastic), contrasting temperaments (Sonny is sunnier, Barba is a little more bitter), common interests (the law), a reluctant mentor-mentee relationship (which has evolved now that the student is no longer a student, though he’s far from being a master), a constant willingness to joke back-and-forth (which keeps building up their relationship and strengthens their bond), fundamental differences which breed a potential for unexpectedly emotional moments (“I admire your…”, because Sonny is an openly affectionate person, and Barba and his wide eyes tend to shy away from affection), it’s all there.

Good writing, plus a willingness to explore that bond, plus the natural ease Peter and Raul have with each other as actors, plus Sonny’s sweetness and Barba’s sass = television gold. And Barisi gold :’)

Yummy Thoughts

Barba was flirting. End of story. Textbook “there is no heterosexual explanation for this.” And I’m grateful.

Barba Thoughts

I’ve always said it, I prefer seeing “shrewd legal mind” Barba instead of “slave to his emotions” Barba, but the latter sure is fun to watch. That closing was intense, and you could see that Raul really dug his teeth into those lines.  I mean, damn. It’s not every week that he gets to really show off, with more than an eyebrow raise or a smirk, but when he does, wow.  I was just thinking, they rarely let Raul have a legitimate monologue, even though he’s a lawyer and theoretically we could be watching his opening and/or closing arguments every week. This episode tells me that the writers might be saving those moments, and using them sparingly, so they’ll have more of an impact. And I think they’re right.

That said, I wonder if we’ll be seeing a focus on Barba’s more emotional side, to better juxtapose him to the upcoming ADA, who’ll be more black-and-white and (I’m assuming) less emotional. If so, this was a smart way to start doing that. In this episode, we still saw how smart Barba was, but we also saw a passion we don’t often see from him. I’m assuming Barba and Peter Stone will clash on more than their positions, they’ll clash on philosophy, as well, and I hope this was an example of that. We have to see the “new” (but old) Barba, he has to be established first, under the new showrunner’s reign, and then we can be introduced to Stone, and see what they have in common and what they’ll never agree on.

Stray Thoughts

Just like I thought, last week’s dramatic ending (and Sonny’s potential subsequent trauma) was not directly referenced. It may come up again in the future, but again, as I said in last week’s post, this is classic Original L&O stuff, a self-contained dramatic episode which ends and is never mentioned again. L&O in its earlier seasons was much less serialized, and I think the new showrunner is bringing that back. I don’t mind it.

Another thing I didn’t mind? Flirty Sonny using his masculine wiles to cozy up to that witness and get her to help. Now that’s how you use your assets :D

“CONFIRMED.” I love Fin.

That old high school pic? I love that NBC employs people who have a passion for graphic design :’)

More background on Sonny’s family! The show remembers he has a niece! His mom used to cover for him for childhood shenanigans! He went to confession for stealing candy! Classic Carisi material. And continuity galore. This is the Sonny we know and love.

Amanda dismissively saying “pills, booze” to judge a woman who was on prescribed anxiety meds and enjoyed, like, a beer? Never change, Amanda. actually, please change (that said, yay for continuity!)

What a waste of Annabeth Gish.

So Brooke Shields is the grandma? Wasn’t that what everyone guessed? I was trying to come up with other guesses because I actually believed them when they said “no one has guessed who she’ll play”. Oh well. That said, she looked amazing, and I’ve always liked her. It’ll be nice to have someone with a (seemingly) kinder demeanor fighting against Liv. Not a criminal or a lawyer, you know? We haven’t seen that before.

Amanda and Liv’s jackets keep slaying my existence every week.


Did I write more than 900 words of this post about a 5-second Barisi interaction? HELL YEAH I DID :D

DA shower thoughts

Ok so we know there’s that dynamic between Solas and Sera…. but what if they have one more thing in common?

Solas wakes up, the world’s a mess. He’s been sleeping so long all he’s prob got is a wolf pelt. He wanders to some nearby farm, sees Farmer John drunkenly asleep next to a hay stack.

Solas looks him over, narrows his eyes…then whispers one word:


anonymous asked:

I just wanna say, I'm so happy you're embracing your feelings towards Rebecca. It's just reached a whole other level of ridiculous now heh 😂😂😭😭.

this was probably the wrong (right?) time to send this message because i’ve been yelling about this theory all evening and….

i have some more Thoughts

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manycoloureddays  asked:

ugh don't talk to me about Susan and Edmund's relationship !! that is too painful !

okay, I checked tumblr on my phone and saw this, and the fact that i’m back is All Your Fault (I hope you’re sorry).

but this was an invitation, so here are 1 am thoughts

  • ok you know su and ed aways had a close bond, because they’re the middle children in between peter and lu, and i don’t think i have to explain
  • and when ed comes back to them susan just holds him close to her for a sec and just is so grateful 
  • because she loves her little brother (always has) and the war has been so long and so hard, and she’s so glad he’s back
  • and when they start their reign, edmund is smart and he keeps studying and working and she keeps building and organizing
  • and together they both start putting the backbone of the country together
  • (and obviously lu and peter are there, but susan and edmund are there in the back planning and building and studying, and it’s no more or less important, just different)
  • but they work together, and they understand the complexity of human nature a little better
  • and edmund is a little quieter now, and they look into the shadows
  • and its in the shadows that they really defend narnia
  • with the spying and the planning and the politics of the different nations
  • they shine
  • and they have their own language of sorts; their own way of communicating
  • (and when they go back to england, and susan forgets narnia, she forgets their language; and its like a piece of edmund is torn away)
  • but they work together and edmund is her closest friend
  • (she doesn’t love him more than the others, not at all, but they can understand each other, and that means more than she can say).
  • but they go back to england
  • and its never really the same
  • susan can’t really talk about it
  • but edmund refuses to forget it (the lessons were too much, and he refuses to ignore)
  • and he needs her to talk to him, because she used to understand the words he could not always speak
  • but susan cannot listen (cannot bear the pain and the struggle, and the ease of pretending is so much more appealing)
  • edmund doesn’t stop loving her though
  • he doesn’t beg her or force her, he just waits and thinks and hopes (that she will come back to him–his older sister, the gentle queen)
  • and he just hopes
  • and waits
  • (she doesn’t come back to him, not then, not in england)
  • (it’s when she’s old and worn, and after life has been hard and long, he sees her make her way up that golden hill in Aslan’s country, and he waits for her outside the gates, the others just inside, and he says, welcome home.)
  • (he grabs her and holds her close, and it lasts longer than it had before)

there’s so many more (little tiny headcanons, about how they interact and how they disagree and how there’s always love and respect in the center of it), and this relationship was always one of my very favorite things about Narnia (and one of very first fanfics I ever wrote when I was like 16, tru story)

Barisi-centric thoughts on Ep 19x04

(namely, the 19x04 deleted scene which was just released)

(and can be found here)

(yes, I know it was 40 seconds long)

(no, I don’t care)

The Barisi Corner

The rapist’s mother approached Barba outside the courtroom, which is highly inappropriate, as evidenced by the matching expressions of discomfort on both Sonny and Barba’s faces, right before they turned around to look at her. Sonny could have chosen to leave, or to simply stand aside, to give Barba some space, if only out of discretion. Clearly the woman was about to give Barba a dressing down, and perhaps Sonny would want to spare him the indignity of having a colleague witness that.

But Sonny chose to stand by Barba. Literally. He stood by Barba’s side, ready to listen to whatever that woman had to say. Ready to provide support. Sonny didn’t want Barba to have to face her alone.

Barisi and Continuity

“You still wanna be a lawyer?”

That’s their thing. A direct callback to the Season 17 finale. Barba always asks that, and it’s almost like’s trying to dissuade Sonny from actually putting that law license to use. Barba knows the truth, Barba knows that Sonny might think being a lawyer is better, or at least easier on the conscience, compared to being a cop, but Barba has been doing it for a long time, and he knows it can be a lot harder. Being a prosecutor comes with a greater degree of responsibility, and on the bad days, it’s like Barba is trying to shield Sonny from that.

Also, putting my shipper goggles aside, this could also be seen as a platonic Barisi inside joke. A grim but honest joke, and a show of friendship. Every time something shitty happens to Barba, every time somebody threatens his life, every time a mother approaches him to scold him for doing the right thing, his first reaction is to say, “Still wanna be a lawyer, Carisi? Look how fun it is! You should totally do it!” (which is code for “I am in constant pain, please don’t do this to yourself”)

And Sonny, he always responds with, “Nah, not right now” to show solidarity. To show he understands how hard this must be on Barba. Sonny is effectively saying “On days like this, I’m glad I don’t have to do your job.” It’s a friendly acknowledgment, and it’s genuine, and it means the world to Barba. Giddy “court was awesome!” Carisi can sometimes get on Barba’s nerves, because it’s easy to be excited over a case when you don’t have to carry the burden of taking it to the finish line, but jaded, “Man, being a prosecutor sucks” Carisi soothes Barba, because it shows him it’s okay to be disillusioned.

Speaking of:

Barba Thoughts

I don’t know why NBC keeps deleting Barisi’s love Barba’s anguish. I loved his answer, that it does not feel good at all to have this sort of impact on people’s lives. I always love to see Barba having more emotional reactions to the cases, or expressing his own feelings about his life and his job. I thought it was telling how Barba wouldn’t look the mother in the eye, at first, and in the end he didn’t look at Sonny in the eye, either. He’s burdened.

ok but they better not be setting up barba’s retirement or something Ahem. Seriously though, I’m sticking to my theory that Barba is getting a little softer, because they want to create a contrast between him and Stone, who will be more matter-of-fact (and who, I assume, might have politely told that mother to get lost). I think that’ll be the source of that personality clash, and I’m interested in seeing it.

Sonny and Continuity

If we think back to “That’s why the world hates lawyers” from the first Barisi Deleted Scene (NBC y’all should be ashamed of yourselves btw!), we can draw the conclusion that Sonny has finally realized that the reality of being a lawyer is significantly less fun than the idea he had built in his head as a younger, less experienced cop (before he even started working Special Victims, back when he decided to attend law school).

Still, Sonny goes out of his way to research their cases, looking up and quoting jurisprudence, and he also chimes in with his own ideas, whenever he and Barba are in the same room. Because, to Sonny, the law is fun.

Unlike the previous seasons, in which Sonny’s choices were less… let’s say defined, or substantiated, I think in Season 19 we’re successfully seeing the distinction between Sonny Carisi, Legal Scholar, and Sonny Carisi, Police Detective. One’s all fun and games, but only in Sonny’s mind, and the other is real.

And we’re also seeing that Sonny’s interactions with Barba keep changing his perspective. Barba is a role model for Sonny. Literally. The prosecutor with whom Sonny interacts most often. Again, in the S17 finale, we saw Sonny realizing that being an ADA can come with built-in death threats. Back then, Barba asked him the same question. “Still wanna be an ADA?”  and Sonny gave the same answer; “Not now”. It’s sort of fascinating how Sonny’s initial and total excitement about the law has been replaced with this slightly more jaded attitude, which mostly stems from Sonny witnessing Barba’s actual life. We’re not just seeing Barba’s continuing disenchantment, we’re seeing how that affects Sonny, too, and I love that.

Stray Barisi Thoughts

OK but Barba was totally walking faster, at the end of that scene, because he was trying to catch up to Sonny’s long legs. Because they weren’t just leaving the courtroom together, they were also going somewhere together. Most likely to get lunch (as all the comments and tags are saying, because clearly us Barisi shippers share a brain, and also because we haVE EYES AND THAT REALLY HAPPENED). So, yep, Barisi having lunch together is deleted canon :D

Oh and height difference! Seriously, even seeing them standing next to each other adds years to my life :’)

(this post is just over 1000 words long. I scare myself sometimes.)