i feel like i might get punched for this, but i think AB/AP is kinda underrated? not by the radio of course, but by the fans. i feel like a lot of people dismiss it as too pop-sounding, therefore it’s not worth much to them. but honestly, the lyrics are incredibly thoughtful and cohesive, and you can definitely tell a lot of time was put into making everything sound exactly like they wanted it. idk i just think everyone’s a bit too critical.
Some Thoughts on Buffy and Spike Living Together (Season 11 Comic Discussion)
above comic panel is from Season 10, Issue #4 of the Buffy comic series.
states her belief that a couple moving in together – living together – is a
huge step and it requires a level of adjustment that she is just not ready to
give up yet. We’ve seen both Xander and Willow living together with their significant
others in the TV show, but we have never seen this with Buffy. That is, until
the current Season 11, where Buffy and Spike share a trailer together in the “Safe
and Spike’s cohabitation in the “Safe Zone,” is similar in a way to Willow and
Kennedy’s cohabitation in Season 7, in the sense that it comes out of a sense
of necessity, rather than a “Hey, our relationship is progressing to a point
where I think we should move in together. How about you?” situation. (Plus,
they only kinda, sorta lived together, because they were sharing a living space
with an ungodly amount of people).
neither Buffy nor Spike is shown to really have an issue with living together
and they have adjusted quite well. Them adjusting well to the situation makes
sense, since we saw them spending more and more time together at home or in
their bedrooms as Season 10 progressed. Their living situation in Season 10 was
more “dorm-like” in nature, but I think it also worked well as a sort of
practice for living together and a leeway into actually living together in most
of Season 11.
is unknown about their cohabitation in Season 11 is if they were forced to live together in the “Safe
Zone” or not. I would say, probably not, since it would not surprise me if both
Buffy and Spike were actually given some options, such as Buffy living with the
Wiccans and Spike living with the other vampire, them living together, or
perhaps even some other different arrangement. Then they, of course, chose
living together. Not only would the two of them living together be the most
pragmatic and safest within the “Safe Zone,” I think Buffy and Spike were ready
for that next level of commitment.
I haven’t re-watched s7 since pre-s8, to be honest, so it’s kind of like I’m watching things in reverse by doing this “whouffle rewatch”. I know what’s going to happen but I haven’t seen the beginning in almost three years, and it’s a really interesting thing to see.
There’s a lot on my mind right now, but one thing I’m picking up on is that, when you watch the beginnings knowing what’s to come, it’s really easy to pick up on things that become carryovers,or themes, or plot points. Funny enough, for all the bickering and favorites people have, and for how much people say 10 and 11 are very similar…I’m picking up on a loooot of things that 11 and 12 are similar about.
You mostly have to be viewing this from a certain lens, probably, with that lens being the relationship of Clara and the Doctor. Not necessarily a romantic relationship, but their functioning as two characters. I think, mayhaps, people remember 11 as being more excited and cute and more “human”, but when it comes to Clara, he’s really at a loss for what to do. He’s flustered when she makes flirty comments at him and his brain goes into overdrive before shutting down and being grumpy. He catches himself having moments of affection and then forces himself out of it - played more for comedy but there’s a bit of angst probably into play too. He is insistent on her safety but at the same time doesn’t stop her from intervening in the adventure to do a dangerous thing.
What I see with 11 and what I think of with 12, is take all those visible reactions and emotions 11 has, and then just internalize that. 12′s exterior is much more withdrawn and lowkey; he doesn’t have the manic energy that 11 does (mostly in s8, you see him opening up in s9 but he’s still more subdued overall). However, all those emotions and feelings with Clara he’s still harboring, which bled out in s8 when either Clara wasn’t around, or indirectly. 12 doesn’t do flirting until it’s riding up on a tank strumming “Pretty Woman” in s9, but he does clearly show jealousy when Clara gets herself a boyfriend. But his style isn’t direct, his style is being obtusely indirect - robbing a bank, which to Clara is just an adventure, but clearly to him it’s a date.
What I see more than anything is that 11 and 12, despite clearly being different actors and different facets of the same character, are of course, the same core character. We see 10 and the War Doctors taking a shine to Clara, but there’s a lot more layers (obviously) when you get the Doctors that she traveled with on the long term. 11 was hearteyes who told himself it was improper to be flirting, 12 is stern and gives off the vibe of it being improper to flirt but he just can’t contain it and eventually he just says “who cares”. But they both have intense affection for Clara, though from radically different phases in their life - 11 thinking he was the end, 12 being what was born from a fresh start. Clara his last hurrah, Clara his savior and granter of new life.