Lance and Keith in 3x02 // Allura and Lance in 3x02
When I rewatched, the fact that these two scenes being in the same episode stood out to me because they’re very similar. The fact that these two scenes are so similar and in the same episode is also interesting because we know for a fact that Lance has had a crush on Allura for two scenes. If they were planning on doing anything romantic with their relationship, then this scene between them would have to be considered romantic. But the Klance scene in the same episode pretty much mirrors it – which using that logic, implies that the scene between Klance would have been romantic as well.
However, there’s something very final about Lance and Allura’s scene (combined with the scene at the end of the episode where Lance hands his bayard over to Allura – which @alteanrose pointed out) while the scene between Keith and Lance seemed more like a beginning of something else, which the rest of the season supported in terms of their development. So, in a way, it seems like Lance is finally transitioning to a platonic relationship with Allura based on mutual respect, while also transitioning into something with Keith.
I just thought the juxtaposition of the two seasons was very interesting.
I’m sure this has been pointed out before but I just noticed recently that Padme’s hair piece in the iconic “So this is how liberty dies” scene is a similar shape as the symbol of the rebellion.
That kind of visual is not an accident, and it’s not an accident that she happens to be wearing this when Palpatine announces the formation of the Empire and she speaks out against it. Bail being next to her is perfect as well because they’re two of the only people in the room who knew this would be a dictatorship.
Padme was a rebel, one of the first. Don’t let anyone tell you otherwise.
So these two scenes are pretty similar (which isn’t too surprising given all the Zuko/Aang parallels peppered throughout the series).
We start out with Aang and Zuko returning to their home, hoping they can start back where they left off. Unfortunately, that’s not meant to be as Aang (and Zuko later) learn that not only have they and their world changed, but now they have to face the consequences of their decisions. And, as Iroh says in “The Storm”: “Things will never be back to normal.”
So, Katara, Sokka, and Mai all see their respective charges brooding. Aang and Zuko start monologue…and neither Katara/Sokka, nor Mai know what to make of it.
In the hopes of lifting our protagonist’s and deuteragonist’s spirits, Sokka asks Aang to show him how to play air ball, and Mai tries (and fails) to tell a joke before telling Zuko not to worry.
Of course, it kind of works for Aang since he’s an optimist and not the perpetual angst machine that Zuko is. Zuko, of course, being the perpetual angst machine that he is, continues to wallow in his angst.
The romantic writing of Dean / Cas (through deleted scenes)
OK, so full disclosure. This started as a simple answer but turned into a whole thing about TPTB and the meaning of deleted scenes and kind of therefore ended up as a Tink’s own small version of a masterpost of the writing of Destiel.
For me, deleted scenes are really important. They made their way to the DVD anyway so are part of canon, lets start with that. But they are deleted for a reason. And before that, they are though up, written, authorised, acted and edited for a reason.
For me the deleted scenes I list below are a big, core part of why I believe Dean and Cas are written romantically and that this is canon. Whether they decide to follow through on it is another matter but I and I know a lot of others agree that they are clearly written romantically and these deleted scenes uphold that. Then they are deleted. Now, some deleted scenes are for time but as you can see here, these scenes often hold key information regarding the overall narrative so clearly they are deleted because of the strong Destiel references. I like to believe this is because they just want to drag it out instead of completely get rid of it from the show, I was worried I’ll be honest before mid season 11 but since then I’m tentatively positive in that I believe the tides are turning and they will textualise Destiel properly and stop deleting these kinds of scenes, especially since season 12 has had so many similar scenes go through to the final cut…
The important deleted scenes for me regarding Destiel are:
1. The deleted scene from 10x23
Cas states clearly that his time on earth has been more important to him than any time in Heaven and Sam and Dean are like family to him.
As always Cas’s scenes that are just too emotionally compromising or hint too deeply at his feelings for Dean (even if Sam is lobbed in there too) are deleted, BUT this in particular has now been addressed in 12x12! So….fingers crossed?!
2. The deleted scene from season 9
THIS IS MY FAVOURITE, IT IS SO IMPORTANT TO THE WHOLE SHOW, to the whole of the narrative for Cas and Crowley.
This one scene just kills me as it sets up Cas and Crowley’s whole arcs for the whole show and yet it is deleted because, clearly, no homo. As otherwise it is an excellent scene to shed light on two of the core characters of the show and reveals their motivations for their actions, which is what a lot of the fans have struggled with, saying these 2 characters are stale.
In this scene Cas and Crowley discuss how they ‘dislike’ being human and how it’s so not worth it and why would you want to be human anyway (the underlying feeling being that they’re both lying and there is a reason they would like to be) - and then Dean immediately walks in and they share a glance. This is….. expositional screenwriting 101 ?
I mean this is a classic - in fact it reminded me so clearly of the opening scene of a classic romantic supernatural love pairing in the cartoon Beauty and the Beast - the narrator says “for… who could love a Beast?” - and it CUTS TO BELLE’s introduction…
And yet they cut this scene. And it means we don’t get a clear narrative reason why Cas and Crowley do what they do and are who they are, and casual viewers who don’t look into things as deeply as all of us are confused and think they’re stale and uninteresting.
Without this scene only people who really look into the show in huge detail, dorks like me, will know that Cas and Crowley are mirrors of each other and both their arcs up to a point revolve entirely around Dean Humanity Winchester.
Yes. That is what happens when you cut important scenes for a stupid reason, the whole show doesn’t make sense and fans get annoyed. *facepalms*.
There are probably people out there who think Cas still wants to be an Angel pffff because he said “I just wanna be an Angel again“ that one time. Yeah, that one time he thought Dean was dead and there was nothing left for him and he knew being a proper Angel would lessen his emotional pain and give him a purpose to focus on. But then, as soon as he learned Dean was still wandering the Earth he just… hangs around, pining, languishing in the blue bathrobe of despair, hoping to fix him.
And when he finally does get some grace back (FROM CROWLEY - these two are so interlinked Chuck help me what a great narrative if they actually showed it properly) he doesn’t WANT the grace, Crowley doesn’t really want to give Cas grace either but he does it FOR DEAN, and Cas, he allows Crowley to do it FOR DEAN. This then also reminds us how earlier on when Cas steals his first lot of grace Dean asks Cas if he’s cool about being an Angel again Cas deflects and says he needs it. Not wants it, but needs it to fight.
WHY does Castiel not want his grace back? WHY might Castiel have learned to love ‘humanity’? WHY might Castiel want to be human?
This scene is not only is great for it’s own individual reveal - Cas and Crowley jealously pretending they dont care about Dean and perhaps he is the other’s boyfriend, even using the term boyfriend, I mean, guys. Could this be clearer?
But this also just ties in to the whole end of the episode where Dean hands CAS the first blade instead of returning it to Crowley. HE CHOOSES CAS! THIS IS SO IMPORTANT (and is easily overlooked as it was deleted for *reasons*).
This, in an episode where Cas is clearly narratively paralleled as Dean’s Colette, where Dean is scared of losing himself and in a call-back to the season’s start and call-forward to the season’s ending Cas is desperately trying to save him and stop, to keep his humanity….
So, in conclusion…
There is a recurring theme of Destiel (and Drowley) - heavy scenes being cut and this is hurting the narrative of the overall show. It’s not that these relationship are written into the show to begin with that is the problem as they are key to so much of the overall story arcs but the fact that they are written in, used extensively as key points in the story while being kept in the subtext and then when there is an opportunity to make it textual to make it make SENSE to the narrative it is so heavily affecting, these scenes are cut.
*FACEPALMS SO HARD INTO MY KEYBOARD*
Why are they hurting their own show by doing this?!
So yeah, it’d be lovely if they actually showed these scenes that explains WHY things are happening to the casual viewer and Destiel shippers weren’t sometimes made to feel like we are grasping at straws.
Newsflash, it’s like a milkshake bar there are so many straws in this show, everyone involved knows about it and plays on it and CONSISTENTLY WRITES IT INTO THE MAIN NARRATIVE.
Just search Amara on my blog, the whole of season 11 doesn’t make sense without Destiel. If God’s sister herself reveals that Dean represents humanity after the fandom had that meltdown after Metatron’s ‘in love with humanity’ speech, DURING a scene interspersed with Metatron just to remind us ;) If God’s sister has to work through the Dean / Cas longing to reach Dean, uses Cas to manipulate Dean, keeps talking to Dean about love and hiding things, holding back, if Dean calls out to Cas while in Amara’s presence and pretty consistently only cares about Cas during these interactions where Amara is present, even though they themselves are bonded by the mark, one of God’s most powerful creations…. please.
And season 12 basically is one long Cas-focused parallel so they know what they are doing at this point. I want to trust Dabb but we have been burned before so… tentatively fingers crossed on this one now.
It’s just so freaking stupid to build a gorgeous story and through Chuck knows what, I like to hope it’s not homophobia but at these points I feel like what else can it be, they ruin their own narrative and make the story just flounder, not making a whole lot of sense because they are not following through on their own narrative and we are therefore MISSING INFORMATION!
We are tired of waiting for this all to make sense.
So I recommend anyone and everyone pay attention to deleted scenes. They are scenes that show that writers have noticed all the other subtext themselves in order to add to it, then thought about, written, acted out, edited and at the last junction been ripped out, and from these scenes it’s clear why, they all share a focal point - canonising or at least heavily clarifying the subtext between Cas and Dean and/or Crowley and Dean.
Because it is there, we are not insane. If it gets so far as to get acted out and left on the cutting room floor then it’s there and there’s a reason it’s been cut.