What changes happened during ep 28? I binged read the manga so ..
I would be so grateful if you tell which chapter is the episode 28?
@lumicuous said: I fully agree and I hope so much they’ll animate it the way it is in the manga! Though, I have a question… what changes in Episode 28 do you mean?
I’m putting all of these together again since they are about the same thing ^^.
Like I said in my other post, I didn’t like those changes. The one who got it worse was Mikasa, but the changes weren’t really good for Eren and Levi either, in my opinion.
But well, to make some sense of what I’m saying I need to explain myself a bit more, so let’s start from the beginning!
The scene I’m talking about is from Chapter 37 of the manga, and was animated on episode 28 with some changes.
During this scene, Levi talks to Eren, Armin, and Mikasa and gives them instructions about what to do next, since they’re going to go separate ways. This scene occurs during the cart ride.
Levi first tells Eren he has to succeed no matter what. And just after that he addresses Armin and Mikasa. We got the first part in the anime quite well, so I can’t complain about that.
But in the anime, they moved the other part of the conversation to a scene later on. Levi then talks to Armin in a similar way as in the manga, but when he talks to Mikasa, is when the issues start. This is what originally Levi said to Mikasa:
This dialogue did happen in the anime scene more or less accurately. But in the manga, he continued and told her this:
This part was changed in the anime, and Levi told this to Eren instead.
“And finally… Eren. Learn how to restrain yourself. Don’t succumb to rage and lose sight of the goal. We can’t afford another mistake”.
This… changes a lot of things.
The reason Levi said this to Mikasa in the first place is because how she acted in the encounter with the female titan in the forest. She tried to attack her even if Levi told her not to. For Levi, saving Eren was the priority. He let this very clear to Mikasa during that time, and he is doing it again now. Because of Mikasa’s actions, Levi got injured. What Levi meant with these words was that her attachment to Eren is precisely what can backfire for her and put him at risk. She has to make protecting Eren her priority no matter what, and for that she has to keep a clear head and avoid getting carried out by her rage.
Mikasa is not going to forget about this conversation, and this exchange is going to be very important to her development. Many people did not like this change, and have explained the reasons extensively since then, so I won’t go much into it, since I’m trying to focus on Eren and Levi here.
Because for me, this scene in the manga was also very important for Eren and Levi’s relationship because it showed how Levi always put Eren first, and how he made sure to let clear his safety was the most important thing, just before they separated. He wanted to make sure Eren was protected properly now that he couldn’t do it himself. It doesn’t matter if you see Levi’s intentions as caused by duty, or by personal feelings; it’s a fact that he puts Eren’s safety as the most important thing.
Also, the way Levi’s face changes in the anime when talking to Eren compared with Armin and Mikasa didn’t help either. He speaks to them very calmly, but when it’s time to talk to Eren, suddenly his face gets… (I’m not going to discuss the animation because, lol) I don’t know what’s that, but he’s not happy! Here’s a comparison:
Of course to anyone who enjoys Eren and Levi’s relationship, these changes will be already a sad thing on itself. But what it personally bothered me by this change, (and the whole reason of this post lol) was the fandom reaction, especially by people who haven’t read the manga and get their vision of Eren and Levi’s relationship from the anime only.
And the reason is simple: Why would Levi say this to Eren? The conclussion many people reached was that this was caused by Eren’s decision in the forest, and the death of Levi’s squad.
I completely disagree with this.
Levi gave Eren the choice to do what he thought was best. He has repeated again and again how no one can know the outcome of that choice. Levi would never blame Eren for the death of his squad this way, he would not refer to it as a mistake, or something that happened because of Eren’s rage. I repeat,
Levi would never blame Eren for the death of his squad!
Even more when this has been already discussed between them. Remember this scene from Chapter 32?
So why then, the anime makes Levi talk to Eren like that? The most likely reason and the theory I agree with the most, is that this is because the anime also changed the final battle with the female titan in Stohess, and made Eren lose control, go into berserker mode, etc. So then, it makes sense for Levi to say this to Eren in the anime. In the context on the anime alone, this change is justified, even if this never happened in the manga.
So in my opinion, if I’m going to judge the changes just by that, they really aren’t a big deal in regards of Eren and Levi.
I understand that the anime has to make changes from the manga to be able to adapt it, and it’s not going to be an exact copy of it. But, like I said before, the way some part of the fandom reacted to this is what upset me and why I wished they had never made this change.
There are people who think Levi hates Eren because of the death of his squad. Who think of Eren as just a bundle of rage who can’t control himself, it’s always yelling/crying, etc. The anime exagerates this a lot in many occasions. Levi telling him this, with that expression, did not help at all on that regard. I saw comments saying how Eren “is always messing everything up” and “it’s obvious Levi is fed up with him”. And usually those comments are followed by some remark like “how can people still ship ereri omg”.
So yeah… this is why this change is annoying to me, haha.
In the original scene, when everyone is asking Eren if he’s going to be able to seal the hole, Levi realizes he is uncomfortable, pressured, and he speaks to reassure him, he gives him encouragement and motivation, and he does this calmly, without getting angry at him. He never blames him for any mistakes or talks about his rage. That’s how Levi and Eren’s relationship actually is for me, and I hope more people saw it that way, too.
This is what started the rebellion, the first act of treason from Rose Quartz, but here’s the thing, we’ve already seen the scene directly after the act of poofing pink diamond. (I specified ‘poofing’ and not ‘shattering’ for a reason, bare with me)
This is it. Right here.
If you’ve watched Rose’s Scabbard as many times as I have (so many, too many) then you know how this scene goes.
Rose: “Pearl, I’m going to stay and fight for this planet.”
This dialogue is so, so important. They’ve reached a breaking point (ha) here. Something that Rose just did has pushed them both into needing to make a choice. There’s no going back. Rose chooses to stay.
It’s important to notice her expressions here.
The first thing that strikes me is that for a few frames she’s looking away from Pearl, looking back. What exactly is she looking at? The evidence of what she’s just done? Pink Diamond’s Gem?
But it’s her eyes that really do it for me.
She looks haunted.
Then the urgency of the situation comes in through the dialogue, and here’s why I think this just happened.
Rose: “You don’t have to do this with me.” Pearl: “But I want to!” Rose: “I know you do. Please, please understand, if we lose we’ll be killed, and if we win, we can never go home.”
She’s done something punishable by death, so she gives Pearl the option of leaving. She still has time to give Pearl the option of leaving.
This, if nothing else is proof that Homeworld doesn’t know that Pink Diamond has been poofed yet, that the act of treason has just been committed. They are the only gems who know what has happened, we know this because not only does Eyeball confirm that there were witnesses to Pink Diamond’s shattering but, in the beginning of“The Answer” when Pearl and Rose first attack, the Ruby guards can be heard crying out:
“Who are you?!” “Show yourselves!”
At that point all Homeworld knew was that there was a rebellion, they didn’t know who had rebelled, who attacked Pink Diamond.
Back to Rose’s Scabbard.
If Pearl returns to Homeworld now it’ll be without consequence, she won’t be blamed because nobody knows what just happened, Pearl can lie, claim no involvement, anything. Rose knows this, tries to protect her by offering her a means of escape. (It’s obvious by her body language, her hesitation, and her resignation that she wants Pearl to stay but she would never ask that of her, but that’s another post entirely ;D )
Pearl declines, of course.
(Rose looks so relieved and happy and ajshgjakhgs)
We’ve just witnessed the start of the rebellion and the birth of the Crystal Gems.
Now this. This is where and how Pink Diamond was shattered.
The rebellion is underway, a thousand year war. The Crystal Gems are outnumbered, outgunned, and it all comes to a head in the strawberry battlefield where it seems that White Diamond has been sent in to finish them off once and for all.
This mural has always reminded me of something straight out of Sailor Moon.
And I believe the same scenario played out here. The odds were stacked against them, they were facing total defeat. So Rose, like Usagi, uses her last resort, her strongest weapon.
Atomic Blonde (and why I’m a Sapphic who adored it)
Okay, first off…WOW! What a ride that film was! After having a full 24hrs
to really digest this film, I can honestly say that this film really blew my
expectations, in so many different ways. Since there seems to be so much
discourse over this film, I thought I would post a POSITIVE list of all the
reasons why this film is as important and special to me as it is, even with
That Scene. As Lorraine Broughton would say, “ Shall We?”
Okay first off, the obvious…
80′s soundtrack with phenomenal remixes.
NEON FOR DAYS!!
Charlize Theron, playing a truly Bad-Ass Bisexual MI6 Agent while still looking sexy as Hell!
The action was some of the best I have ever witnessed!
The general setting of this film, Communist Berlin, gives a remarkable window into just what the Cold War in its later stages entailed. The Cold War was perhaps one of the most deceitful wars in history, and when you figure in just how sensitive the situation was, you realize that Every. Move. Counts.
She owns my ass.
Again, we have an Openly-Bisexual Female Lead, who’s only main love interest is another woman!
Charlize Theron not only did 98% of all her own stunts, but she sustained injuries because of it.
I loved her characterization, it was one of the highlights of this film. We often forget that movies like this are hardly ever realistic, but in this film the opening scene is of Lorraine, MI6′s Top Agent, wearily trying to attend to her beaten body. She is barely alive, and as the film goes on we see just how much of a toll her physical and emotional well-being takes due to the nature of her job. As the film progresses we see her grow more cold and disconnected to the point where she is practically numb to those around her (her interrogation, mostly).
She wins all her fights, but not without repercussions. Her body takes. A. Beating. And unlike most films her wounds don’t just magically disappear or just “get better”. No, they are there for weeks, in all their ugliness, to display just how vulnerable as a person she is, whilst also reminding those who see her how tough and strong she has to be just to merely survive.
Lorraine and Delphine
Okay, first off…OMG THESE TWO!
Sofia Boutella was adorable as Delphine, and the way her innocence and naive-ness abolutely melted Lorraine was so cute!
The way Lorraine looked at Delphine with such intrigue, and the way Delphine looked at Lorraine with such awe.
The whole “Harold, they’re Lesbians”-like scenario with the dude at the bar (even tho Lorraine is Bi).
Again, we get another glimpse into Lorraine’s characterization here, which is basically she gets distracted by pretty girls we see that, even though Lorraine is still skeptical of Delphine at first, she very easily falls for her, a softness that we up until that point had yet to see in her.
Delphine’s slight hesitance when she gives Lorraine that adorably soft kiss and Lorraine’s shyness in returning it!
The way we see Lorraine follow Delphine into a more private place and being so dazed and transfixed by this tiny French Girl is mesmerizing and makes my heart skip a beat!
OMG their wicked make-out session and the slamming against the wall and the WHOLE SCENE THAT FOLLOWS I COULD NOT BREATH!
“…So you made contact with the French Operative?” “Obviously”
Lorrainein nothing but a sweater looking over Delphine as she sleeps-watching, wondering, worrying aboutwhat will happen to her.
THEY GOT TOGETHER MORE THAN ONCE!
Honestly, them snuggling was one of the most tender moments in the whole film. For once it feels as though Lorraine is being genuine with Delphine, which she picks up on.
Lorraine stroking Delphine’s hair while Delphine nudges her head in Lorraine’s neck is so precious. The way Lorraine is so gentle with her and laughs and smiles at her makes my heart melt so much! She cares so much for this one woman she just met and it is so beautiful!
Tiny Soft Nose Kisses!
The fact their relationship, no matter how brief, is actually a small subplot means so much because it really feels like this was for us Sapphics, despite what happens later.
That Scene among other things
Oh boy, here we go. In my opinion, I did not see this as partaking in the horrid “Kill Your Gays” trope.
We saw it coming in the trailer you guys, and I was fully prepared for this scenario.
She was a naive, inexperienced spy who got too close to Lorraine, and suffered the ultimate price for it. This happened to all of Lorraine’s lovers (although I honestly think she was just using her first one for information, where as she truly cared for Delphine).
Delphine Fought. Back. Hard! And she did a damn good job at keeping up. But unfortunately she did not have the skill nor the experience to win that battle. She is not Lorraine, who barely came out the mission alive!
This is a spy film about the Cold War, there were going to be many, many casualties. Lorraine (Another Queer) was the only one to make it out alive.
When Lorraine found Delphine, I truly felt for her then. This is the first time we see her fully shut down as she Empathetically mourns her girlfriend (which we hardly get to see in general, the LGBT Hero mourning the death of their lover).
At this point, after all that she has gone through (the beatings, the betrayals, the loss of intelligence, etc) this is the one thing that finally breaks her, and LORRAINE. IS. FUCKING. DONE.
She is done with everything around her, and we see this as she goes from on-the-ground vulnerable to STONE. COLD. NOTHING. And she goes out for blood, and Damn-It does she get it! She shows no mercy for Delphine’s killer, and it is obvious that this is revenge in its most raw form.
In the end this is a story about a spy in the Cold War, and in a genre like this things are going to be very brutal. We see this brutality play out on Lorraine, and how it affects her and all of those involved. She made it out with her life, and that was her reward.
So Delphine’s death, to me, was the final Plot Point to move us into the final act, as it was portrayed as the one act of Evil that Crossed That Line, and to further the Characterization of Lorraine.
I could go one about the phenomenal action sequences, because I have never witnessed such raw and realistic fighting in an action movie, and to have a Female Bisexual as the lead taking as much as she dishes out was both horrifying yet empowering!
Of course everyone is entitled to their opinion, and if you think this film will seriously trigger you, then by all means please take care of your well-being, because that is ultimately the most important thing.
Was I sad that Delphine died? Yes, of course! Did I see it as strictly because she was gay? No, I did not. Do I see this as good representation? Ultimately, yes because I still felt incredibly valid as a Bisexual in more ways than one with this film, and the last time I felt this good about myself was when I first saw Carol (2015) dir. Todd Haynes in theaters (which nothing will ever top that film).
But for everyone else, please GO SEE THIS FILM. For the one negative we must also see all it’s Astonishing Positives this film has, and for it to get the attention and praise that it has is such a big deal for all of us, because if we show our support for this truly Rare Gem then they will make a sequel, and other films like it! Only then can we move forward!
UPDATE: So I just saw Atomic Blonde today for the second time in one week, and upon my second viewing I’ve come to realize just how much I love this film, and why it beat out my expectations originally! And it mainly falls back to what I discussed earlier, about Lorraine and Delphine’s romance and Lorraine herself, for instance:
Again, I love Lorraine’s characterization! Being more aware of the story my second time-round, I got to focus more on Lorraine herself, and I think I underestimated just how cold and numb and positively DONE she is by the “end” of her mission (again, in reference to her interrogation).
The physical and emotional toll on her and her body really is just as prominent as I remember, and my goodness I cannot recall another film where I actually left the theatre physically exhausted by what I just watched. Everything she’s endured sort of rubs off on you, and if that isn’t the most engrossing experience a character can portray, than I do not know what is.
Delphine and Lorraine, my god I love their relationship! It is the only relationship in the whole film solely built on attraction and Mutual Trust, so much so where they would rather protect each other over their mission.
In fact, going in this movie the first time all I was expecting between them was the “One Night Stand” that was so heavily portrayed in the trailers-which I would of been happy with-and, (just like in the trailers) I prepared myself for Delphine’s demise soon after-But we had an entire subplot dedicated to their relationship, right up to the very end!
Because of this Lorraine’s and Delphine’s romance felt genuine, filled with love and tenderness and worry and drive to protect each other-and that really is beautiful representation.
Which, I believe, is why Lorraine truly shuts down when it all goes south, and why we see the Lorraine we do in her interrogation. SHE IS COLD. SHE IS BEATEN. AND SHE IS TIRED.
In the end, I do think she cared more for Delphine than past lovers, which is why she seems so utterly broken when we first see her. She went back to Delphine even after her superiors threatened to end her, and she lied about Delphine to protect her from them, even though she was gone.
Anyway, as you can see this film really did a number on me, and I am absolutely fine with that! I apologize for making my crazy long post even longer, but there were things I still wanted to get off my chest, because this really is a Dream Film-a Queer, Female Lead 80′s Spy Film actually exists, and I think Atomic Blonde really hit it out of the park-and has ruined all other action films for me here-on out!
The scene on Endor is so important to me for many reasons but one of them is that in it, Han Solo apologises. Which marks one of the very few times that I’ve seen a male character apologising for getting jealous of his own volition, not because he got yelled at or anything, but because he realised that Leia was upset and that this was not the time for him to get petty and stupid over his own insecurities, and I love that.
Because jealousy is so often portrayed as a funny or even romantic thing, a sign that the guy is in love or whatever, when in fact, jealous behaviour is almost always hurtful or even controlling behaviour. As an instinct or reaction, it’s very human and understandable, but when I see characters acting jealously, I see them acting in a way that’s possessive, manipulative, controlling, hurtful, and ultimately, lacking in trust. No one ever does nice things out of jealousy.
Here’s the thing: who Leia falls for is her choice. Who Leia trusts and confides in is her choice. Who Leia has a relationship with is her choice. And Han knows this. He gets momentarily jealous and annoyed because he’s been away from her for a year and he’s scared of losing her and maybe she doesn’t care as much as he does, and they’re back to fighting, and he doesn’t know what to do about any of it. He tried asking her outright, and that didn’t work, and that’s Han out of ideas. Not like Luke, who’s good at this emotional stuff, damn him anyway. But then Han realises very quickly that Leia’s upset, and he’s being petty and unhelpful and making everything worse. Luke just left, and whatever he is to her, whatever they said to each other, Leia is upset.
Leia, obviously, doesn’t really care about love triangles right now. Leia has just had several major revelations, she has a brother, she has a father, they might kill each other, and she’s also in the middle of a life-or-death mission. What Leia needs right now is just someone to be on her side, not demands for answers or petty jealousies. She doesn’t want to talk about it. She needs to process it all first.
So then it’s Han’s choice whether he storms off in a huff because she’s not putting him first, or turns back to comfort her because he’s putting her first.
He chooses the latter. He chooses her. He puts his jealousy and his insecurities to the side, he swallows his pride, he apologises for losing his temper and being an idiot, and he doesn’t try to offer an excuse or explanation or justification for it, either. He just says “I’m sorry” and stands there, saying nothing, making it clear that he’s here for her in whatever way she needs. Putting her first. No expectations. Because he has no idea what Leia needs or wants right now so he’s decided to just give her a chance to tell him.
He’s also made himself vulnerable, because you know that between these two, an apology is a Big Deal, a major score for the other side. But what it also means is that Leia can now turn to him for comfort, because he’s being sincere, so she can be, too. You can tell it surprises Han, because of course he didn’t even realise he was doing it right, but unlike their earlier fights, this one ends well because what do you know, a relationship is about trust and consideration and putting each other first.
The point is: Han realises that he’s being an idiot, he apologises for it, he doesn’t make excuses, and he doesn’t demand any particular reaction to it. It’s a genuine apology and it’s given, with no expectations or conditions attached, for a behaviour that’s romanticised far too often. It turns the “jealous lover” trope around and puts the romance where it ought to be: in the apology, aka the act of genuinely putting the other person first.
Alrighty so this is another one of those voltron prediction/theory/rant its basically an analysis of some parts of season 2 not all bc that would take me forever but just a few key parts (aka the key to my heart Klance okay bye). So grab a drink because this is an essay folks that I spent way too much time on than I should have. Let’s begin shall(ura) we? (I hate myself)
So I’m gonna start with a very good and very platonic (in my opinion) relationship, which is K//allura. Okay okay, they have so much potential to be bffs its exciting.
First off, I took the whole Galra Keith and Allura tension as a message the creators wanted to convey to the viewers about judging someone merely by their race. Honestly I really love it when tv shows, especially kids shows, integrate bigger ideas like racism into their stories. Its subtle yet satisfying and I really really appreciated this particular scene with Keith and Allura.
Allura is describing her hatred for the Galra which is basically her hatred toward a part of Keith that he can’t even control. He never chose to be Galra, it’s just in his blood. And obviously that hurts him because its a part of who he is:((
Like ugh this is so sweet guys. So as you know from the title of this, I don’t ship K//allura at all, but this scene was very special to me in a much different way than how I feel from a romantic interaction. Like this is a genuine moment between two characters that are haunted by the same group, the Galra. Keith is part Galra, he has a part of the enemy inside of him which is probably causing inner turmoil maybe even self-hatred within him. And Allura as we know hates the Galra for killing her entire civilization. These two have a deep character development from this scene alone. We see that Allura has matured from being bitter toward Keith for being Galra to understanding that a person should not be judged by their blood but who they truly are. Also we see that Keith has accepted the fact that yes he may have a part of the enemy within him, but that does not mean he has to be anything like them. He is also pretty stand-off ish and doesn’t like opening up necessarily. He’d much rather keep to himself (other than Shiro), but he is finally opening up to someone else as well. He forgives Allura immediately despite how offensive her bias opinion was towards him. I just love Keith.
So these two are super close now or should be? Which is pretty awesome considering… Keith is super close to Shiro too. SO now he’s close to both Shiro and Allura who are both, might I remind you all, much older than would be appropriate for him to have a romantic relationship with. Anywho, this reeks of space parents and an angsty teen.
Which then leads to Shallura and why I believe it is pointing toward canon woot woot love these goobers. Alright so I’m solely focusing on a few scenes in particular where my heart was pounding and my eyes watering and I was clutching my heart while screaming at my computer screen. The feels man the feels.
I just about swooned at this. Like these underrated moments are what really get me. Like I love the whole Shiro taking Allura’s hand and telling his wife to get some rest, that got me feeling some sort of way. But this scene guys. In the heat of battle, Shiro is concerned for Allura. He’s basically saying “I wish I could be there to take care of her but Coran you have to do it for me.” I cannot guys I cannot.
She could’ve called for anyone else. Was it Keith? NOPE IT WAS SHIRO, PEOPLE!!
Never forget honestly. This is the face of a broken man. I have never seen Shiro more distressed and this pic doesn’t do it justice but when you watch this scene his eyes are glistening like he’s about to cry. The calm, collected leader Shiro is on the verge of tears? omg I can’t.
Honestly this is my weakness. When a character gets hurt and another character goes ballistic and rages. Like Shiro is so determined to kick ass in this scene and avenge Allura. End me.
For Shallura, they both have an understanding that they need each other. They are each other’s support especially considering they both are the leaders and are the older ones of the group. They help bear each other’s responsibility which is much different than Klance’s dynamic. For Klance it is much more playful and focused on chemistry. And also because they are younger it is much more naive and afraid. Both Keith and Lance obviously care for each other but they try not to show it especially when the other is present. They are self-conscious and afraid of what the other will think, that the other doesn’t feel the same way. Shiro and Allura, however, both know that they care for each other and they aren’t afraid to express it through calling each other’s name during battle and other small gestures like that.
Which I forgot to mention that everyone is freaking out over a simple hug between Allura and Keith but like have you noticed that both Klance and Shallura have not had a proper hug yet? Ummmm is this a slow burn fic or… Seriously tho, I’ve watched plenty of shows and animes (I’m shameless) to know that usually the canon couple does not have that special hugging and seal-the-deal scenes quite so early in the series because all the anticipation builds up until the perfect scene is created. I swear a tender Klance and Shallura moment is coming I swear.
Which then leads to my mains, Klance. I just have to admit that one of the many reasons I love these two is because of the fact that Keith and Lance are like my fav characters of all time. And I can relate to both of them at the same time idk. Anyway, back to what’s important: evidence of canon.
So… Do I really need to show these? Like these scenes do not need further analysis it just reeks of dorks-in-love-who-don’t-know-they’re-in-love-with-each-other-and-who-don’t-know-that-the-other-is-in-love-with-them. Man I love Klance.
So instead let’s over-analyze a few other scenes…
“Babe I thought you would have my back.”
“First you forget the bonding moment now this.”
Look this one is a stretch lol but just look at Keith’s face. When you watch this scene, Keith goes from his signature annoyed and irritated look to a betrayed and frustrated look. Maybe that’s just me, but aside from that, he doesn’t necessarily look pissed off, his face changes from his usual pissy look to something much different. Obviously what Lance says does calm him down enough not to yell back at him, but he also looks frustrated because no one understand him or his secret about his past with the Blade of Mamora and all that good junk at this point. I think it is especially bothering him that he can’t just upfront say what he is hiding, and instead he knows he is looking like a fool in front of them (and especially Lance).
Body language is important. Keith turns around as not to face them, I think he is hurt because obviously this whole situation is important to him but not even Lance seems to understand him. And I seriously think Keith and Lance have like this weird mutual understanding usually. Like ya they fight I get that, but usually they kinda get what the other is trying to get at I feel, idk maybe thats just me.
Let’s take a moment to appreciate how blue Lance’s eyes are in this… I love my son…
So like if you look closely at this scene you notice that when Lance is making eye contact with Keith, Keith has his typical “I hate you Lance but really I don’t but I’m gonna pretend like I do” face. But right when Lance looks away Keith actually looks sad and kinda hurt. Out of everyone, he hates that Lance is the one revealing his flaws, and even he knows its true. Lance stop insulting your husband. He’s actually sensitive about what you think of him:(((
Uhhh lowkey I think Keith is just as insecure as Lance is, but he just doesn’t show it… Oh the Klangst!
And another thing we get to see in Season 2 is that Lance is showing ALOT of concern of Keith’s wellbeing which is pretty big if you ask me because season 1 was basically Pining!Keith worried about his boyf. Now we get to see some worried Lance.
Honestly, like I mentioned before, the creators are going for a slow burn. And both Shallura and Klance definitely have their little hints and subtle moments that are very easily missed. But that’s the point. If it’s too obvious then the ending won’t be as powerful, the couples won’t be as special. Also, the development of both of these couples is going slow but very well thought out and I actually appreciate it a lot. I know for a fact K//allura won’t be canon because their interaction is too straight-up(lol) for it to be canon. It could be said as “predictable” but idk I just get a total brotp vibe from them nothing more, plus if they were hinting at canon for them, they wouldn’t have them hug so soon. Also their reactions and facial expressions toward the hugs and touches would be very different. It wasn’t tender like the Bonding Moment™ or the Shallura hand grab™. Facial expressions and reactions are key! Keith looked indifferent when Allura fell into his arms and their hug was sweet yes but it wasn’t hesitant and nervous like a couple who just discovered their feelings for one another would react. It was a hug between two people who recognize their bond. It was a strong bond yes, between two lovers? no I don’t think so. Allura, herself even confirmed how she now viewed the paladins as her family and it just felt to much like a familial bond I couldn’t see anything more to it. If Kallura was to be canon they would have more subtle moments than in-your-face big moments. Little details in the way Keith or Allura would look, or in the background they would be gazing at each other (*cough* like Keith does to Lance *cough*) It’s the little things that count, remember that.
The only ship I was concerned that would be canon was Sh//eith, because they have an obvious bond that is much different than everyone else. But ever since the “Shiro, you’re a bro to me” happened, it basically killed any chance of it happening. Which in my opinion is much better because Klance and Shallura have so much potential and their stories can expand and be written so well. As it is, the creators are doing a really good job at unraveling their stories slowly but just enough as to give the viewers hope which is the goal usually for tv shows. They try to make the shippers suffer sometimes *sigh*.
Anywho, if you read up to this point thanks for listening to me rambling about space parents and space ranger partners lol! I loved season 2 because it revealed a lot about Keith not only through the obvious backstories and blade of mamora stuff but also through his interactions. And yes Keith is my fav lol. Anyways, I am 99.9% sure Klance and Shallura are gonna be canon but by no means am I saying you shouldn’t ship what you want. You do you, folks. Ship on and enjoy the show!
So I have this really big problem with the 2nd trailer of season 3
Several days ago was the panel for Voltron Legendary Defender at SDCC- July 20th, 2017
With a bunch of crazy stuff being asked and shown with this big day, there was the release of another trailer for Voltron season 3. You can watch it on youtube here where DreamworksTV uploaded it.
Now I have a lot of problems. People are going to assume when I say problems I mean “Look at all these flaws with everything I want to analyze” but what I actually mean when I say problems is “WHAT’S GOING ON???? I NEED TO KNOW THE PLOT OF WHAT’S GOING ON!!!! MY C H I L D R E N”
So anyway, I was rewatching the trailer (for the 1000th time) and as always being the Lance fan I am, I’m always looking at anything Lance and Lance related.
Now in this trailer, there was a lot of things Lance related that caught everyone’s attentions. Mainly the part where the Blue Lion was falling into the oblivion.
And I am just as concerned as everyone else who also loves Blue and/or Lance. But this is the least of my concerns when it comes to questions needing to be answered.
No okay, so I am so just so a h h h h h h h and I can’t believe no one has noticed and pointed it out??? Or questioned it????
So there’s a lot of action sequences that are shown and played out throughout the trailer but there was one that caught my eye because how it looked…
This one, this one right here
So lets analyze this scene right here
So here is what we see
The yellow lion is firing a laser out of their mouth
They (either Hunk or Yellow) were clearly aiming for the purple ship
(most likely a Galra ship or ship that was trying to attack them)
But instead the laser is hitting Blue
And the ship is either flying away or being pushed away
So here’s my problem-
CLEARLY YELLOW ATTACKED AND SOME WAY SOMEHOW BLUE IS THE ONE GETTING HIT
Now one thing we don’t know is who is inside of Blue because we know Allura will eventually pilot Blue but we also know that the team is unable to form Voltron for a good couple episodes in the beginning because they have yet to lion swap (since it has been hinted so) so there’s a big possibility that Lance could be piloting Blue in this scene just like there’s a big chance Allura could also be piloting Blue in this scene as well. That’s something that doesn’t matter because either way MY CHILDREN ARE GETTING HURT
But what I want to know is-
Why this scene is played out the way it is, with Yellow firing an attack with Blue getting hit and probably hurt along with her paladin and a weird ship involved
So I have a few plausible theories
My first theory I have is that for some reason the Paladins are trying to attack the purple ship and Blue and her paladin (Either Lance or Allura) noticed something with the ship and ended up shielding the ship from the attacks because “Guys hold up this ship is innocent/our ally!” or something along those lines of misunderstanding
The second one I have is actually my friend’s because I had consulted them first about this. So @memetbh had come up with a theory that Lotor could have found a way to control the Lions and had either
Took control of Yellow to attack Blue (Ah Hunk my sunshine would never intentionally hurt Lance or Allura)
Or took control of Blue to use her as a shield for the ship while injuring either Blue or her paladin in the process (two birds with one stone)
The third one I have is that the purple ship could be an ally ship, stolen Galra Empire ship and/or a Blade of Mamora ship and they had unfortunately ended up in line of fire and Blue and/or her paladin was just trying to make sure the ship and the pilot (with possible important passengers) didn’t get hurt because for some reason whatsoever they need to be protected
The last theory I have is a pretty simple one that it’s just, the pilot of the purple ship just has mad pilot skills and was able to slip through the Lions no problem while the Lions and Paladins are struggling to detain the ship
Well these are at least some of my theories to this scene I have so many questions for but what do you guys think?
hey! how are you? story time, lol - I have spent about 5 years on this whole series that I plan to publish. all the characters are set, I know what I want them to go through, and how both the individual novels and the whole series should go. my problem is that, even though I write scenes here and there, I can't seem to be able to write at least the first book, to connect the scenes together. most I've done was redo my outline hundreds of times and write first drafts of 2 chaps. help/advice?
I’m doing quite well because of a super-productive meeting, thanks for asking!
Part of that reason I stress it for you in particular, is because you haven’t really written much and yet you have this elaborate plan. When you get around to actually writing things, that plan isn’t going to cooperate was well as you want it to. You’ll get new ideas in the middle of scenes and you’ll need to be able to decide what to do about them. Some may change a small detail, some may overhaul your ending. You also may find that your plan has holes or your characters have inconsistencies that aren’t noticeable until you see them in scene form, and you need to be flexible enough to work with the issues you find without giving up. Writing isn’t easy.
I’m in a wordy mood today so I also feel the need tell you about publishing, since you mentioned that’s a goal. If you’re self-publishing, you can ignore the rest of this paragraph, though it may be an interesting read anyway. Publishers, unless you’re already well-known and popular, do not usually accept series. You need to write your first book to work as a standalone novel with a complete plot, but loose ends are okay and can work as a ‘teaser’ to see if readers really want to stick with your work. The reason for this is publishers want things to sell, and a first book is like a test. If it sells well, they can grant your wish for the rest of the series, but if they can’t market or make money off your product then they wont extend the offer. It’s a common business practice for more than just books, and there’s no such thing as a 100% guarantee in business.
For your issue about being unable to write, here’s a few potential problems and how to fix them:
- You’re probably focusing too hard on your outline. Writing is one of those things where being too rigid can actually hurt your progress, as mentioned in my first earlier link, because that outline isn’t going to create any of the emotions that a story can need. An outline can have lots of detail, but it’s always missing the personal element that makes a scene come to life, which is often what creates that enjoyment of writing/reading.
- If you really have an outline that detailed, then you should already have scene connections. Look at the logic of your plot. You have to get your characters from point A to point B somehow, and sometimes that just means throwing in a time skip. I just read a book that had 5 chapters that took place in a single day and then 1 that spanned the course of a week. If nothing important is happening, don’t focus on it.
- Related to that, your scenes should have a sense of flow. There should be a logical structure (often cause-effect) that connects each scene to make up a full story. There’s also a lot of things that connect between scenes, like emotions, reactions, etc. If two characters get in a fight in scene 1 over a choice, whichever choice prevails is going to affect both of them in scene 2.
- Don’t sweat the small stuff. You’re better off alluding to a small event (like a character dropping off a letter in the mail, even if it’s super plot significant!) than showing it. Showing too many little things can really drag a story down, though it’s possible to integrate them into bigger scenes with some skill and practice. Have you seen this ask where I explain the multi-purpose scene? This is one example of how to integrate tiny things that matter into the more important scenes.
- Drafts of two chapters is a start! Now figure out why that’s all you’ve written. There’s a reason you aren’t getting things done and you need to figure out what it is. Is it insecurity about your writing? No examples to follow? No time? The wrong mood? There are so many things that affect writing and unless you figure out the exact cause, I can only help so much. I seriously recommenced reading more, since your question is something that you can see so many examples of in published fiction, and examples are a great way to learn.
I’m sorry I couldn’t give specific advice, but the issue of “my writing isn’t working” isn’t really specific either. I covered what I thought might help, but I’m serious about you needing to figure out what the roadblock is. I can help much more once you know, and it’s good practice to be able to problem-solve with your own writing like that.
I have just finished binge watching “13 Reasons Why” and if you have no idea what I am talking about, this post might not make much sense to you. So, if you have not, I highly recommend you stop everything that you are doing and go watch the series for yourself.
If you have, then here we are. We have both witnessed what was waiting at the end of tape number thirteen. Some of you may not agree with or like the outcome that the show brought, and some of you will. I am not here to dispute any of your feelings.
I am here to say this: Hannah Baker is so important. Not because she is the main character of the show. No, it’s something much deeper than that. Unless you have been placed in the same pair of treacherous shoes that you are forced to walk day in and day out, you might not understand where I am coming from.
I am not here to talk about the tapes, and I am not here to discuss whether her actions were right or wrong. I am here to talk about Hannah Baker’s last day on earth.
As I watched “Tape 7, Side A” I could feel my stomach churn with every flashback of her final moments in Crestmont. I could feel my heart break with her vocalized hope of “giving life one more chance,” even though it was still causing her pain on the inside.
When she sought out the one person who was supposed to be able to provide answers, pushing through the torture of speaking the honest truth and praying for that person to take the reins and bring everything to a pause only for them to make her feel worse than she did going into the conversation. How she stood outside the door, hoping that someone would come after her and take control of the situation but they never did.
How she straightens up her room so she is no longer an inconvenience to her family whom she does not want to upset anymore. When looking in the mirror for the last time and not being about to cry because her body is exhausted from fighting against the storm, having no reaction or attachment to the image staring back. Holding the razor blade in between her fingertips and knowing what she is doing is wrong, but having it be the only option left because every other cry for help has been silenced or overlooked.
And last but not least, the silence that she has been desperately longing for but hating at the same time, filling the room once she has made the deep cuts to her veins.
This episode isn’t fiction. You should consider it a biography. While the people go about their lives living just another day, I have experienced this side of Hannah’s tape far too many times to keep count. Feeling completely numb inside because you already prepared yourself for no one to do a goddamn thing to truly help you, all while mentally scolding yourself for even entertaining the idea of a “chance” in the first place.
Hannah Baker is important because she is just like me. She’s the girl who’s place I’ve stood several times in my life. She’s the girl that I identify with way too much still to this day. When I first watched this scene, I couldn’t breathe. I was nauseous and wanted to skip ahead, but something in my head told me no. That I couldn’t because this was what the twelve episodes before had led up to.
For someone who has previously attempted suicide, I think the show did an incredible job of capturing the final moments of someone’s life and bringing awareness. It’s almost refreshing because, for a very long time, there has been nothing that deals with suicide, rape, etc. blow up in such a “trending” way. The show does not make the situation more light-hearted by having the person be rescued five seconds after making their final decision.
It was raw. It was real.
I once publicly posted about my decision to check myself into a mental hospital to seek help for my high-depression after almost driving myself off the interstate and nearly slitting my wrist open all in one night. And I desperately wish I could say it was a success story and I’ve never thought about harming myself again. The truth is, the people who worked at the facility never followed up, and when I personally called seeking more information and help, they never returned my phone calls. The truth is there is not a day that goes by that I do not think about it once. I don’t think it’s something that ever really goes away.
But I think the worst part about the situation was that many people in my close circle knew from gossiping lips and had the “bless her heart” effect. No one wanted to talk about it. No one asked questions. They just accepted the fact that I wanted to end my life and went on about their business. It seemed like these people in my circle truly believed that talking about suicide would make it happen. And that they were here for me, but only at arms’ length.
This post is not meant to scare you away from viewing the show. It’s not meant for you to have negative thoughts about it either. The show has many layers, Hannah’s suicide just being one of them. There are backstories and evolving characters that guide you through an eye-opening journey through discovering the truth. A real life look into some of the issues throughout schools across the world, and how little things can still have a tremendous effect on someone.
The show is meant to educate. To call for action before something like this happens again. To stop the only efforts for change being posters that say “don’t kill yourself” and start an actual and purposeful conversation. Suicide is such a taboo subject, yet it is the 10th leading cause of death in the United States. Every day, approximately 105 people take their own life. Every thirteen minutes, someone chooses Hannah Baker’s ending.
Over the past few days since the release of the series, there have been many posts in the media claiming that “13 Reasons Why” romanticized suicide and that Hannah Baker is a selfish, self-centered teenager. And sure, people have every right to think that. But through my countless hours scrolling through the tags on social media platforms, it’s comforting knowing that I am not the only mentally-ill person who gives this show a thumbs up.
I guess my plea here is simple. Do not go into the show with preconceived notions that this show is “messed up” and unrealistic. Be aware of trigger warnings at the beginning of episodes and make a judgment call on whether or not you personally can handle a scene. Please keep in mind this scene is how it sometimes goes for some people and is important to some.
And the last thing on my soapbox, there are so many Hannah Baker’s in the world who need your compassion more than your urgency to get finished with the conversation so that you are able to move on. Don’t be afraid to talk about suicide. You never know who is needing you to speak up the most.
Okay, i don't know if you read the leaked spoilers of s7 but jon and dany will have a sex scene. So...You think there's still hope for jonsa in the future? as a jon x sansa shipper im in deep shit and i need your opinion
I did read the leaks and I still believe in Jonsa happening. I don’t know if I’m a fool to believe this, but I won’t lose hope until the very end and not just because it’s my otp, but because D&D gave me the reasons why I still should believe in them ending up together, eventually.
The boatbang is likely to happen and I know it’s disheartening, especially because it sounds very OOC for Jon. But IF it’s going to happen, I hold my faith in the contextualization of the scene. I’m aware fucking is just fucking, but Jon could be doing it for various, different reasons and we still don’t know yet. The leaks gave us little info, there are still missing pieces to give more sense to the plot and maybe one of these missing pieces is the reason why d/j are possibly going to bang.
When I watched ep 1 & 2, I didn’t think immediately about how right the leaks were, but how many things were left out, and above all, how much the context changes the dynamics of one scene. For instance, the leakers depicted Jon as a complete jerk towards Sansa, as he “put her in her place” during the council and I was very scared about what I was going to watch, instead I ended up watching Jon determined and stubborn on his own decisions (as a King should do after a discussion), but totally not “putting Sansa in her place”. They discuss and talk after the council, a scene we knew nothing about, and they were basically two cupcakes confronting each other. Maybe the only rude thing was “How should I be smarter? by listening to you?” which sounded like a dick line, but as I interpreted it, I don’t think Jon meant any offense to her, but more like “you know better than me how to prepare the North against the White Walkers?”, that was the point that was poorly delivered by d&d in that scene. Jon lives in a constant fear no one believes him and maybe even Sansa thinks he’s a fool, but we know Sansa blindly believes him without any proof, unlike a certain Targaryen Queen. That scene was everything! and the reason why I believe the leaks left out so much and have no fucking idea the context of the scenes.
I will never stop speaking about the CONTEXT. It’s so important and it’s the only thing that keeps me hopeful about what will really be this quick boatbang.
As many other Jonsa shippers pointed out, they may fuck, but the Targbowl is coming in S8. D@ny in 7 seasons has come to a place of self-righteousness and has developed a sense of entitlement regarding the Iron Throne, that she won’t like one bit the minute Jon’s true parentage will be revealed to her and her right to the Throne will be undermined by him. Ep. 3, to me, foreshadowed there will be a final clash between them, not coming from Jon obviously, but D@ny herself.
Re: Jon and Sansa, D&D have been constantly given us Cat/Ned parallels throughout the first and second episode of S7. The parallels are HEAVY, blatant and so evident that no one could deny it. The writers are not even trying to be subtle anymore, they just shamelessly show us how Sansa is becoming like her mother, and how much Jon is becoming exactly like Ned. Jon and Sansa have been turning into a new, future version of Cat and Ned, the difference is that they’re still work in progress; they are still building the relationship Cat and Ned had and I strongly believe they will reach that point.
As Cat said to Robb: “Love didn’t just happen to us. We built it slowly, stone by stone, over the years.”
In Jon and Sansa’s case, they’re building a relationship of trust, support and love for each other, as they go through their own disagreements and discussions. It just doesn’t happen to them to agree on everything concerning the North and their home, it doesn’t just happen to them to be on the same page, yet they trust and love each other, learning how to rule together.
Besides, I don’t forget what happened in S6. They might be apart now, but I don’t forget their scenes together in S6 and not even the first 2 eps. of S7. it’s hard to get over that because of j/d fucking and be attracted to each other.
Jon constantly looks and stares at Sansa, as if he’s trying to figure out the woman she’s grown to be and attempting to adjust himself to this new woman that doesn’t resemble one bit the Sansa he remembered back in Winterfell. A brother does not incessantly stares at his own sister like Jon does. It’s too damn weird! Why do d&d zoom in on Jon’s reaction when Sansa speaks? when she touches him? when they’re fighting? Do they really think that’s brotherly? We might say lots of things of them, but they are no fools in their job.
Above all, I could talk about the fight in the tent in S6 where the sexual tension between them almost exploded.
I mean, WHAT WAS THIS??? the director still has to explain to me what the hell they had in mind with this shot, if they weren’t planning to let the sexual tension make it to the screen.
And the forehead kiss in 6x10 with Jon looking at her lips. Again, WHAT WAS THAT FOR? Couldn’t they just shoot a normal forehead kiss between siblings without zooming in on Jon’s face and his eyes falling on his sister’s lips like he wants to devour her mouth???
Many could tell us we’re delusional, because it never meant to be sexual, nor romantic. And that’s ok, I thought I was delusional too a year ago. Maybe it was just Kit and Sophie’s accidental chemistry that made it to the screen and thousands of fans noticed too damn well something was off and weird between these two! But then, we all start overanalyze their scenes in the year gap and we notice e.g. the zooming in on Sansa grabbing Jon’s arm, the light used during their tent scene, the fights they had like an old married couple, the constant looks that Jon throws, Ramsay’s line about Sansa being back in his bed and the close-up on Jon’s face to see his reaction to that.
Most of their scenes had a romantic undertone, and the most incredible thing is that it’s not only us as shippers, but even the media noticed it and they’ve not been subtle about Jon and Sansa becoming a couple in their own reviews.
Then, we have S7 with 2 episodes with them in it.
Sansa grabbing his arm in 7.01 and Jon looking at her like “omg she touched me, keep it cool, Jon. Keep it cool”.
Jon throwing LF against a wall and chocking him for daring to say he loves Sansa.
“I love Sansa. As I loved her mother”
In that scene LF teased him with everything he had in his hands about Jon and his past, Jon forced himself to quietly listen to him and shortly responded to him with a “get the fuck out of my life” face. He was ready to leave the crypts without any harm done, but the second Petyr mentioned he loves Sansa, Jon snapped and he snapped when LF pointed out he loves her like Cat, hence on a romantic/sexual level.
And LF was like “wtf just happened?”
There are clueless reviewers who didn’t understand the scene at all, they cannot explain what that scene meant and you know why? because if you don’t have a mind the possibility of Jon and Sansa becoming a romantic couple, you just don’t get it. But it’s clear that Jon has becoming to brew romantic feelings for Sansa to the point of threatening men who admit to love her. I don’t think I could actually fully describe how excited and happy I am about this scene.
Jon has no chill when it comes to Sansa, which is weird seen from a brother pov. A brother worries and wants his sister to be careful, but never rages this way and never makes possessive statements such as “Touch my sister and I’ll kill you myself.”. That was way over any brotherly threat.
Let’s even consider how every single man that has been linked to Sansa seems quite fond to point out to Jon things extremely sexual/romantic about Sansa. WHY??? WHY TO JON OF ALL PEOPLE??
It cannot be just coincidence to write these lines. To me, there’s a bit of foreshadowing of Jon being the one having romantic feelings for Sansa and the one who will consummate the marriage with Sansa.
Are we excepting the Hound doing any comment about Sansa on a sexual/romantic level to Jon when they’re gonna meet? Hell, yes. Or I’ll be disappointed at this point.
Everything points at Jonsa being endgame. We may have them at the very end of the show, but I do believe they will end up together. D&D have done questionable choices over the course of the series, but I know when they throw hints, parallels and reminders of possible future events, they’re not doing it just for fun or to confuse the fans.
J/D is the red herring couple in S7 and maybe S8, that will lead us to the real couple: Jon and Sansa. They are the endgame.
I’m sure that whatever painful events we’re going to see this season, it’s gonna be worth it for the very end.
The bedroom scene for so many reasons. Firstly there’s no way to ‘no homo’ this, not after the kiss scene. Some shows would leave it at that, but we got the chance to glimpse into an intimate moment between the two of them, one that also reveals what I like to think of as the birth of James’s craving for domesticity: He’s far away from the harsh realities of the sea and the navy and instead curled up with Thomas and a book. The book is also (obviously) important; it symbolizes that even though these two men come from vastly different social climes they share an intelligence and a need to look beyond everyday matters into the deeper meanings of things. This is no doubt one of the ways Thomas wooed James into believing in his idealism.
I know you are happy for the Klaroline endgame but don't think that it is sad that Caroline was the only vampire left? She will live for ever or at least get to live for a more extended time than humans do and she will see everyone she loves die. It has already started. Her father, her mother, her husband. She will outline her children too. How is that a good end for her?
How is it not?
Let me start by saying that despite JP’s obsession for turning TVD into a human soap this show was originally based into the vampire mythology. It is meant to deal with vampires and their existence. The pros and the cons and the darkness and the grandeur and the immortality. Ships and endgames aside Caroline Forbes ending up the only vampire in a show that is meant to be based on the vampire genre is an honor and a homage to everything this show once stood for. Every vampire of the show faced the same destiny you describe here. Damon, Stefan, Katherine, the Originals. And yet when their stories began and they were introduced to the audience everyone took in their story expecting to feel their age and get to know their ageless journey throughout the centuries. No one complained about their predicament. Everyone wanted to get more into it. Either their story was tragic, or intriguing, or dark, or hopeful. It was interesting because the very concept of immortality is an unachievable dream that intrigues humans. So many writers get to write for Vampires, Demons, Gods, Immortals, etc. Because their stories are enveloping every hope and aspiration and tragedy and epic emotion a human can have and dream of. The unreachable. The impossible. Even something to sent the human soul straight to damnation. All those elements hide greatness and misery in them. And Caroline Forbes was meant to endure and persevere and become a Vampire. She relished in her nature. She owned it. She accepted it and craved the perks that come with vampirism. She would not turn to a human if she had the chance. She never wanted or expressed that wish. For the simple reason that she likes been strong, ageless, fearlessand she prefers who she is not to the girl she used to be.
On the other hand everything you describe in your ask are things that can happen in a human life too. So what happens then? You give up? You curse your life? You find no meaning to it? A person can outline others and can outlive even love and memories and things he or she never thought possible. Calamities and tragedy are part of life either that life is meant to carry on for a few decades or longer or less. It is what we do with our time and how we face the things that happen to us that make life worth it. It is even how we stand in the face of loss and loniliness. How we grieve. How we move on. How we hope. How we persevere and if there was one motto that Caroline Forbes ever had in that show was perseverance.
That does not take away the importance of the things you write in the ask. If anything they give more meaning to Caroline’s existence because facing these losses will make her live every day to the fullest. Will make her wiser. Will make her not lose track of time. Will make life have meaning.
Do you know who else also contemplated the very same thing you ask me here? How eternity would have no meaning? How it would suck? How it would be a source of depression. How it would take away and take away and leave no meaning?
Caroline Forbes did. In her birthday in season 3.
So much so that she did not want to celebrate her birthday and ended up giving a funeral to the human girl she buried behind.
And do you remember who exactly showed her that very same day that while life takes something from you it gives you something else back? That there is meaning to found in forever. Because truth is that loss will come and you contemplate giving up.
And I could let you… die. If that`s what you want. If you really
believe your existence has no meaning.
I`ve thought about it myself once
or twice over the centuries, truth be told.”
And let us face it. Who doesn’t think of that in their lives? In our human lives fantasy aside have we never thought of that very same question? Of how to endure with loss? Of how to go on? Of how we can outlast the pain and not break? How to hold on to people that leave us behind or we lose them by death or any other reason? There is always a time even for the most optimistic people where they think that life has no meaning or ask themselves what is the meaning of it all.
So here Caroline’s immortality is a parallel to what we face in real life because art in its own way tries to give answers to such questions.
So what is the meaning of it all? How could Caroline ever move on and why should she want to? Why would that be good for her?
Because with the loss there is also the gain. Because life is not black or white. It has endless colors and twists.
Imagine that. Let it sink in. Life does not end with loss or with pain. This is why we are alive after all. There is whole world is out there still waiting. Genuine beauty. And music. And art. And more birthdays. More chances. More dreams. More potential. More possibilities.
A thousand more birthdays.
Because life does not end with loss and misfortune. You do not get to sacrifice your life in the name of loss or lost love or broken dreams. Life moves on. With endless possibilities ahead. With optimism. You grit your teeth and you move on until you can smile again. Life continues with pain and loss and tragedy and laughter and love and joy. Because every turn gives you something and it is in your hand to take that something and make something out of it. Something for you. And this is why people still dream of immortality and want to live longer and crave stories of ageless creatures. And admire those tragically and gloriously beautiful stories. Because life goes on and is full of wonder. And people can only wish to be able to be bigger than life. With everything that includes.
Time is unrelenting and brings change and with it society and culture and life itself alters and people want to be there to see it. To experience it. To live it. Because people reading history and get fascinated by it and then dream of the future. And Caroline Forbes will be there to live all that. Maybe she will outlive some people and maybe she will carry their memories with her but she won’t outlive everyone. Because she will get to meet more people. She has endless possibilities ahead. To love again. To laugh again. To be an extrovert. To be an introvert. To find more questions and answers. Endless horizons ahead and this is why Klaroline and the idea of a vampire Caroline Forbes was always so alluring to begin with and enchanted so many people. Because it held the promise of eternal. The promise of however long it takes. The promise of genuine beauty. Because it was brilliant and ugly and the truth and the lie and it was about brutal honesty and manipulation and rage and soothing silence and it was challenging and unpredictable. Just life is.
And how important is to actually be able to grasp that? And by that I mean life. To have nothing more to do than ask? Because this is what life is. It is your choice. It is as good as you let it. Because you need to want to live it. You need to want to ask. All you have to do is ask. And then take it step by step. Let me say it again. Life does not end with loss or grief. Emotion is not finite. Relationships come and go. Love can be replenished or be found in so many places even unexpected ones. Hope does not end. Meaning is always in different things all the time if you only open your eyes. Pain does not last forever no matter how cruel and unforgiving it seems at first. You fight back and you live. And all you have to do is ask.
And this is one of the many reasons why I personally like Klaroline so much and why their endgame was so
important for me. Because of this very message that you sent me. Because
Klaroline began with the very same core of question you put in that
ask. Their very first defining scene was about what you ask me here and it answers your question perfectly. And that was
why I was so moved by Klaroline chemistry and potential aside. Because
of the promise of endurance. Because it was a promise of how Caroline
could live and become greater than life and …loss. This is how it all
And this is how Caroline will move on because this has been her origin story and not the end. It is only the beginning. But that is the beginning of another story.
So you tell me anon? How is that good for Caroline? Or for anyone for that matter? How is it good for anyone to actually live their life? To find meaning in that kind of existence?
tbh i don't see how it's not obvious to anyone that if sns were het, people would be all over it and it undoubtedly would've been canon. nobody would've disputed it. sometimes i think it would've been one of the most popular het ships ever. i see some people say that it still wouldn't have become canon if it were het, because the basis of their relationship is friendship, but it's easy for them to say that now because it's not het. sasuke and naruto are guys. but i can guarantee that if [1/?]
sasuke or naruto had been a girl, those same people would be all over sns because of how fleshed out the relationship is and how deep their bond goes. hell, even if sns had been het and written purely as friends, it still wouldn’t stop those same people from shipping it because they’d see them interacting and interpret their behavior towards each other as romantic, even if it wasn’t romantic. it’s just kind of funny to me that they try so hard to deny it would be canon and deny that it’s [2/3]
heteronormativity that s/s and n/h even happened and would mean sns being canon if it were het, because it’s just. it’s undeniable. make one a girl, and suddenly everyone can see it as romantic. there’s just no denying it. [3/3]
Yes, people mainly deny SNS because of gender. I always see people saying: “They’re not gay” or something like that. They never look at the bond, the development, the meaning behind their words. They overlook all these important elements needed in a relationship simply because they are two guys.
People who say that Sasuke and Naruto can’t have romantic feelings for each other just because they are friends really makes me laugh. What is the basis for a good and healthy relationship? I’m sure it isn’t one-sided crushes. Love is what blooms from friendship.
There is a reason why so many N/H moments were copied from SNS. You can check out this post which talks about recycled SNS moments. The Last is a prime example of copied SNS moments but I’m sure you know about those already.
I think one of the more important scenes is Hinata “protecting” Naruto from Pain. To be honest, there is nothing romantic about that scene. From Hinata’s point of view maybe. But overall, that scene was pretty plain and a cheap rip-off of Sasuke protecting Naruto from Haku. Like, c’mon, that scene had 10x more emotions and impact.
No one will ever convince me that this isn’t meant to be romantic and that Hinata getting thrown in the air like a ragdoll for some reason is.
Oh and also
Seems familiar, right?
Needless to say, these forced canon pairings actually prove that Sasuke and Naruto could have been canon if only one was a girl :)
A Brief History of the Erasure of Hip-Hop, Rock N Roll and Black Music Through Anti-Blackness
This is a response to an Anonymous comment. I’m glad to see other black people noticing that we are losing Hip Hop music and culture to non-black people just like we did with Rock & Roll. For those who don’t know, when black people started Rock & Roll, white people did everything they can to block it’s radio play and success to ruin black artists and the music genre as a whole. They used to also categorize the music as negative and uncivilized, sounds familiar doesn’t it? That’s what plenty of them say about Hip Hop as well. The thing is, deep down a lot of white people enjoyed the music and it actually played a part in the civil rights movement because black people along with some white people were rallying for it to play on the radio and for the concerts to not be racially segregated (See Ray Charles, James Brown). But here’s some other deep things to know about it: 1) As a way to appease white listeners who wanted to hear Rock & Roll on the radio, music companies would use white singers to sing over the original songs by black artists and that would be the version played on the radio (See Little Richard’s Tutti Frutti, + his thoughts on Pat Boone doing it over w/ success). 2) Black artists had no say over white people doing over their songs. 3) White artists got paid way more than these black artists, even when most of them played a key role in writing and producing their own music. 4) This led to white artists getting the acclaim, praise, attention and credit for a genre that wasn’t even there’s. Keep in mind that Elvis Presley is regarded as “The King of Rock N Roll” when he himself was inspired by black music/artists and plenty before him made the genre what is today. All of this led to black people losing Rock & Roll and many white people will claim older white rockers as the “innovators and pioneers” of a genre created by black people. Many today also don’t know it was created by black people (Which says A LOT). But over time black artists themselves gave up on the genre which is just sad; they allowed white artists to knock them out under the guise of “it’s just music”. This is why Jimi Hendrix got the praise he did, because he was literally one of the last black rockers and made such an impact in a short mainstream career that lasted for only 4 years. Well today the same is happening with Hip-Hop. Too many black people are welcoming non-black people with open arms to a genre that has been inspired by our pain and struggle. Today many non-black people have no problem stripping and re-telling the history of Hip Hop, and they do it by stripping it’s blackness. (See Ben Baller, See “We Real Cool?: On Hip Hop, Asian-Americans, Black Folks, and Appropriation” By Kenyon Farrow c.2004) <— a piece of this was reblogged here btw*. Also never forget how when Eminem stepped on the scene, white people went out of their way to claim Eminem as “the Greatest Rapper Alive” even when a lot of them didn’t even care to listen to the majority of rappers, whom are black, simply because they are black. They also like to claim we only rap about sex, drugs and violence (to discredit us) when many non-black rappers do the same (See anti-black K-Pop/K-Hip Hop fans :) … The reason why this is so important to me and SHOULD be important to ALL of us who are BLACK (even if you don’t like Hip Hop) is for the fact that everything we do, own, and create is never respected. Everything we have never belong to us, and white people AND non-black POC have no problem reiterating that to us. Everything we create is hit with “It’s for everyone.” Our culture has become a universal grab all. That’s why the appropriation of black culture is treated as a joke while appropriation of other cultures is taken much more seriously. To make matters worse, these are the same people who hate us and do all they can to maintain a false sense of superiority over black people all while taking from us. It’s to push this idea that Non-black people can do everything we do and “better”… With that being said other groups are starting to claim they either “Created”, “Innovated” or “Pioneered” Hip Hop & Rap. (See Ben Baller, again). It’s at the point where I feel like they can actually go and claim such ignorance because many will co-sign the erasure of black peoples’ creations… Including cooning ass black people.. For the love of God I wish they wouldn’t speak. For example, I Saw a Greek dude on YT try to claim Greeks created rap… Got in an argument with a Mexican dude who tried to claim that Mexicans did rap before black people and we “stole” the credit because we speak English… Got into an argument with an Asian dude over black appropriation, our naturally kinky or “nappy” hair and the N word… I am begging my fellow black people to wake up! I am a 21 year old woman who loves my culture and blackness and I REFUSE to allow this nonsense! Stop begging for the acceptance of non-black people by way of erasing your own! Know your history, don’t allow them to rewrite it for you.
i'm a new to this touken fandom. i want to know, at what time does Kaneki starts to fall in love with Touka and the progression. because I tried to look for it and it seems i can't find the exact moment he started to like her. and when did Touka start to develop feelings for Kaneki ? ( sorry for my bad english, since it's not my native language )
your english is fine, don’t worry :’)
i think there’s no such thing as a chapter or a moment in the manga that you read and say “oh! here it is! this is when kaneki fell in love with touka!” because love doesn’t really work that way, and i think ishida did a great job portraying that realism in the story (something i’m really grateful for..)
love is something progressive, you don’t wake up one day realizing that you love someone, so you won’t really find an exact moment in the story, but we can analyze this through arcs. kaneki has always shown a deep concern towards toukachan and gave her a special treatment compared to the rest of the anteiku members, i personally believe that he started to see her differently when she went to save him from aogiri (he was really shocked to see her there just to save him..) and that’s something he mentioned again in their talk, chapter 122, so i think this scene was a defining moment for him and his feelings, but after this he left anteiku so they never had the chance to develop those feelings properly.
as for touka, it was definitely earlier. her feelings went through a change when he was kuroneki and showed her his kindness, but the time they spent apart when he left anteiku reinforced those feelings and i think they became clearer for her, the process of missing him + the keychain, this scene holding her parents ring… i think it’s here when you can say “yeah, she definitely likes him” and also the importance of him promising he wouldn’t leave her alone when she has many abandonment issues.
everything i believe shironeki was supposed to feel came back to life again when haise started visiting re and then we got the confirmation that he clearly liked her.
this is basically the reason for why i like touken so much, i usually don’t ship the main couple of a manga that much? i always go for the secondary couples, and it’s because i feel like main couples aren’t that well developed these days, everything happens out of sudden and i’m the kind of reader who likes slow-build narratives… and that’s what happened with touken, it progressed so slowly that you have to reread panels again to realize little details like a tiny blush on touka’s cheek or stuff that makes you say “woah, something’s happening here” and makes you appreciate their relationship a bit better :’) since it’s not just one defining moment, or one defining scene, one defining panel… it’s something that grows and grows and keeps growing in every single chapter from the first tokyo ghoul to :re and it becomes a journey.
The first thing when it comes to writing a fight scene is that we usually get so hung up on what’s happening. Who’s throwing the punch and who’s swinging a sword or pulling the gun, we forget about the fight. Fighting is something with emotion and reason. Your fight scene should be more about the characters and what’s happening internally and externally. The first intimidating mistake writers make when writing fight scenes is that we forget those components even exist, and the correlation the emotional has with the physical. Your reader doesn’t need to understand it, so much as they need to feel it.
Weight refers to the literal amount your character weighs. It’s highly important. How fast are they moving? How many hits could they really take? Can they dodge? Can they administer hefty blows? This also refers to attacking. If it’s a fast attack it generally has less energy behind it, because the are moving a lighter object or body part, making it faster and weaker. However, a heavier attack or blow will do more damage, but the victim maybe able to brace or block it faster. It’s something very real in combat, and height also feeds into this point. If a character is tall, the smaller character generally will have a disadvantage, or emotionally feel weaker. Unless specific circumstances are meet, smaller people lack confidence in fights, even if they are trained.Tall and short people will also aim for different places. Keep that in mind while you write.
The fight is much more than the fight itself. It’s like a kiss almost, it’s not what’s happening on the outside, it’s how what’s happening on the inside affects
Something we commonly forget in the thick of the action, both you and your characters, is that the world around them suddenly didn’t disappear. It still exists. Your characters will usually forget about the wall behind them in a fight, and ram into it. If you’re writing fantasy the cliche trick of destroying the wall behind a victim as they duck is classic for a reason. It’s that dawning moment of comprehension where you think “thank god that didn’t land…” If they have a fight where they are moving around an area, SKETCH OUT THE AREA. Know where your characters are fighting. If they are moving, they become hyper-aware of their surroundings, are more likely to use those surrounding to their advantage. An extra ledge to jump from or on, cornering an opponent, the works. It depends on where they are. Just remember that even though your characters are so honed in on the fight, doesn’t mean you can be too, and that wall or dumpster will still be there when the tussle commences. Use it to your advantage. WHat ground are they on? Are they alone? What’s the lighting like? ALl are critical questions to ask if a fight is to happen.
Emotion in a way is the main selling point of a written fight. Because things can’t happen like they do in a karate movie, we have to capitalize on something entirely different. THe emotions. Why does the main character feel like the world will end if they lose? WHat are they fighting so hard to protect? Do they use that to overthink the fight? How much does it really matter in the grand scheme of things? Emotion can control physical response. They are two sides fo the same coin. THey are far more likely to lash out blindly when frustrated then level-headed. Know that experienced fighters very rarely lose their cool on a battlefield, it’s important to note that. Think of your characters battle- fistfight experience, then use that yo guide the emotions of the fight.
Your character themselves are a huge indicator of them in a fight. FIght are very personalized. Depending on a few variables, your characters will fight wildly different from others.
Do they have a weapon?
Do they have training or experience?
Defensive or offensive?
Do they trust themselves?
How afraid are they?
Spontaneous thicker or planner?
How well can they read their opponent?
Are they focused?
Why are they fighting?
All of these variables will change the way your character fights. THink about matching their personality with a fighting style. Educate yourself if your character knows what they’re doing, don’t if they have no idea what’s happening! Match your character in that sense.
Composure can be a surprisingly defining factor in a fight- and it all has to do with intimidation and how put together your character is. You’re automatically going to be afraid to fight a person larger then you, and fear puts you at a disadvantage because it’s a mental reaction that you can do very little to control. You will be afraid of people who have a track record of success, or somebody who you know has a weapon or heavy training. However, it’s also a matter of who is afraid of YOU on the battlefield. You generally want to target people who are afraid of you, knowing that they will put up less of a fight, and are generally easier enemies, seeing as they are unsure if they can beat you.
Weight, Investment, Environment, Emotions, Characters, Composition or WIEECC are the fundamentals of writing a compelling fight scene.
Writing these are hard, so be sure to get lots of opinions, and remember that nothing you do is wrong!
→Human Hide is in Tokyo at a time when ghoul Hide is in Tokyo in manga.
The Story of Tokyo ghoul anime is about what would happen if another Hide was there. For
this reason, ending was changed and it seemed like too many important
scenes of manga are skipped. So, TG anime was huge disappointment to
fans. But, if you
look back at the anime considering that there are two Hides, you will
realize that there is a reason behind the disappointing scenes. I have a high opinion of anime director’s new approach, so I am really looking forward to season 3 based on √A .
◆ Two meanings of √A
①Route A (“A” is the first letter of Aogiri) = Route that Kaneki join Aogiri ②Root A “A” means human Hide who wears the No.1 hat. No.1 could represent the first brother, and “A” also represent it. (Please refer to this post by @hidewari■) Root A = Half-human Hide who was born of the same root with half-ghoul hide.
++ If you are interested in the difference of two Hides, please check this post by @hidewari□
✔ Before Kaneki bacome a ghoul
✔ manga: ghoul Hide is in Tokyo ⇒ anime: human Hide is in Tokyo
● The scene that ghoul Hide draw a picture was cut. (※Ghoul Hide is poor at drawing.) ● Human Hide bursts out laughing, bacause Kaneki said if he had a girlfriend, he wants to have a date in Big Girl. (※Ghoul Hide said in TG novel:Days that he also wants to have a date with girlfriend in Big Girl.) ● Ghoul Hide’s lines that “If she took off her glasses, she’d transform"was cut. (※Ghoul Hide is perceptive.) Instead, human Hide says "It’d be just like Beauty and whatever with you.” He is just saying about Rize’s looks.
● After parting from Kaneki, human Hide eats food.
✔ After Kaneki bacome a ghoul ✔ manga: human Hide is in Tokyo ⇒ anime: ghoul Hide is in Tokyo
● The scene that human Hide eats steak at Big Girl was cut. Instead, ghoul Hide left food at Kaneki’s home. ● You can see ghoul Hide’s drawing.
Episode 2 ✔ Kaneki meets Nishiki at the university. ✔ manga: ghoul Hide is in Tokyo ⇒ anime: human Hide is in Tokyo
● The scene that ghoul Hide reads Kaneki’s emotions and senses something strange was cut. (※Human Hide is not perceptive.)
Episode 3 ✔ After Kaneki started working part-time at Anteiku ✔ manga: ghoul Hide is in Tokyo ⇒ anime: human Hide is in Tokyo
● The scene that ghoul Hide leads the dangerous ghoul who is after him to Mado was cut.
Episode 9 ✔ Before Kaneki is kidnapped by Aogiri (November 30th in manga)
✔ manga: human Hide is in Tokyo ⇒ anime: ghoul Hide is in Tokyo
● Ghoul Hide infers about Aogiri and it makes kaneki scared.
Similarly, ghoul Hide maked kaneki scared by inferring about Rabbit and Hinami in manga.
● He finds Yamori the day before Kaneki is kidnapped. =>The story changes greatly because it was ghoul Hide who had been in Tokyo on November 30th and December.
In manga, human
Hide attached a tracking device to Yamori on December 1st, then a few
weeks later he called CCG and leaked the Aogiri’s hideout. But
ghoul Hide dosen’t attach tracking device to Yamori and it seems that
he decides to work together with the clowns. (Because of the Pierrot
mark on his bike in √A.)
Episode 10 ✔ Kaneki is kidnapped by Aogiri. (December 1st,around 14:32 in manga) ※ US time : November 30th,around 23:32 ✔ manga: ghoul Hide is in US ⇒ anime: human Hide is in US
● Ghoul Hide’s lines about bad feeling was cut.(※Human Hide is not perceptive.) ● Human Hide relies on the news and newspapers to get information because he is not in Tokyo. ● The dark room is a hint about the current time.
Episode 11, √A Episode 1 ✔ The CCG stormed the Aogiri hideout. (December 19th 23:05) ※ US time : December 19th08:05 ✔ manga: ghoul Hide is in US ⇒ anime: human Hide is in US
<US> ● Human Hide still relies on the news and newspapers to get information. ● The bright room is a hint about the current time.
<Tokyo> ● Ghoul Hide rushes to the scene of the battle. ● The Pierrot mark on Hide’s bike is shown. ● He wears the ZW hat.
ZW in reverse is MZ, and it means monozygotic twins.
√A Episode 2
✔Humam Hide is in Tokyo
● He wears the No.1 hat.
● He didn’t call to CCG, so he works as Seido’s gofer without attracting Marude’s attention.
√A Episode 3
✔ manga: human Hide is in Tokyo ⇒ anime: ghoul Hide is in Tokyo
● Ghoul Hide meets Touka at the university.
● He wears the ZW hat and the Pierrot mark on He’s bike is shown.
● On the same day, Hide wearing the NO.1 hat appears on the CCG.
● He sees a report about “the eyepatch ghoul” on Seido’s computer screen, and talks about it with Seido.
● And then, he takes off in a hurry bacause Akira looked at him with suspicious eyes.(※Akira is perceptive,too.)
Similarly, in manga, ghoul Hide taked off in a hurry bacause of Akira.
● Near the end of the episode 3, Hide mentions Touka who he met at the university. It shows that Hide who had met Touka at the university is the same person who was in the CCG until now.
→ In other words, ghoul Hide just wore the No.1 hat.
√A Episode 6
✔Human Hide is in Tokyo
● He reacts to the report about “the eyepatch ghoul” that Amon dropped as if he has never seen the report before.
√A Episode 11, 12
✔ The CCG raid Anteiku.
✔ manga: ghoul Hide is in Tokyo ⇒ anime: human Hide is in Tokyo
● Human Hide is found by Noro.
(※ It seems that human Hide is not so agile as ghoul Hide is.)
● He meets Kaneki at the overground. It shows he is a human.
On the other hand, in manga, Hide met Kaneki at the underground. It shows he is a ghoul.
● He falls, mortally wounded.
● Kaneki accepts the human side of himself.
He carries Hide back to CCG’s main camp. And, Kaneki meets Arima as a human.
In manga, Kaneki ate Hide and met Arima as a ghoul. So, he’s ghoul side was killed by Arima.
I wonder if anime Arima could see Kaneki has potential of being OEK who kill him.
Because, in manga, Arima saw Kaneki had potential of being OEK, and he called Kaneki’s name with a smile.
The end of √A, Arima is standing alone on the field covered with white snow. Maybe it shows empty feelings of Arima who can’t leave anything.
Anyway, it will be interesting to see how to deal with these differences between manga and anime in season3:-)
I’m not sure if I’m explaining in English well。٩(๑´0`๑)۶
Okay so, this is officially my first digital piece- kinda besides crappy first tries ages ago. I did all the line work on paper because I can’t figure out how to do so on my app without screwing up! Haha, anyways to the important bits!
So this little kylux piece is based on the first chapter of Here Comes Your Man by @hollyhark. I love this fic for many reasons, and that like tender first scene after they do it is pretty much amazing and sweet. I had to draw the armbands because I love the concept and have always liked wearing bands on my arms over my nonexistent muscles lol. I added the smoke after, to kind of represent the way even then on their first night things are already going up in smoke (The heavy fire theme throughout the story is also something I love about it) I’m not that great at much of anything digital art related yet so bear with me! I know the shading on the sheets and pillows is kind of awkward. :/ I hope this is okay to look at, I’m not sure how great it really is haha, but I hope some people enjoy it! <3 Thanks for the inspiration Holly! <3
Hi! Could you do an analysis on Sakura's confession to Naruto? I don't really understand why she confessed or what were her motives so the scene was kind of confusing to me haha. Why does everyone call Sakura selfish by making a false confession and why do most people use this scene in an anti- sakura post?
They think Sakura was being manipulative because of it, and claim that she was arrogant for thinking that Naruto was doing what she was doing solely for her sake. Yet, what they conveniently choose to forget is the fact that the only reason Sakura thought so in the first place was because of what Sai told her. In light of this, the fact that anti extremists constantly spout how Sakura did the “guilt tripping” in the series becomes even stupider than it already was. If anyone guilt tripped anyone in the series, it was Sai towards Sakura here.
Here’s the full scope of the situation:
During their trip to the Land of Iron, Sai had witnessed Naruto’s willingness to get severely beaten on Sasuke’s behalf, and he connected it to the promise that Naruto had told him he had made to her. He then informed Sakura of Naruto’s feelings for her:
Sakura would then recall Naruto’s words of empathy to her, and began to realise just how much Naruto had pushed himself and put himself in harm’s way, and due to Sai’s words, she thought this was all for the sake of fulfilling his promise to her.
This realisation would leave Sakura in tears, for how much (she thought) she had unknowingly caused Naruto to suffer:
However, Sai would push further. He continued to emphasise just how seriously Naruto took the Promise of a Lifetime, and he would go so far as to describe it as a curse that had been placed on him, and state that although Sasuke does indeed cause Naruto pain:
She caused caused him just as much pain because of the promise between the two of them. Sai’s words cut Sakura very deep here:
And this was what caused Sakura to think that Naruto’s promise to her was his main incentive for pushing himself as hard as he did. But many extremists don’t get that; they pin it on Sakura’s apparent arrogance and manipulative tendencies.
Therefore, it has to be said that Sai went overboard in his assertions. The promise between the two of them was not Naruto’s sole incentive for pushing himself to that extent for Sasuke’s sake (as Naruto would make clear later), and to think so is rather demeaning to Naruto and Sasuke’s bond. This is a large reason why people hate on Sakura because of this scene; they think she’s giving herself too much importance, yet they never acknowledge the fact that it was Sai who made her think so in the first place.
It was therefore Sai’s failure to completely understand the situation that led to him giving Sakura a little bit of a false impression here, because she felt that Naruto was only pushing himself so hard for her sake and his promise to her. This may ultimately have led to Sakura’s fake confession:
After hearing her words, Naruto was initially stunned, but he very quickly adjusted and looked at her rather incredulously; he wasn’t having any of it:
He quickly remembered several instances in which Sakura had demonstrated just how deep her love for Sasuke was, and absolutely refused to believe that she’d be able to discard them at a moment’s notice:
Sakura then tried to justify her apparent change of heart by claiming that “They say a woman’s heart is as interchangeable as the Autumn sky”, but Naruto knew Sakura better than that; he knew that when it came to Sasuke, Sakura was anything but fickle. Thus, he essentially told her to stop lying to herself:
Sakura then explained how concerned she was for Naruto’s well being, because she knew that chasing after Sasuke always resulted in Naruto putting himself in harm’s way:
So she sought to free him from his promise to her, in order to ensure his safety and well being:
That’s all Sakura wished to accomplish by lying to him here.
However, Naruto would clarify to her that the Promise of a Lifetime didn’t have anything to do with how far he was willing to go in order save his dear friend:
He was doing this because he wanted to:
This is why I feel like by this point, Naruto was already deep in the process of moving on from Sakura. He was taken aback by her sudden confession for all of one second, and quickly realised that something wasn’t right, and during the whole ordeal, he gave absolutely no indication that he still harboured feelings for her at all. Previously, he would have at least displayed some form of sad smile or expression when revealing how much Sakura still loved Sasuke. Now, he didn’t do any of that, and was instead actually angry that Sakura was lying to herself about her feelings.
I feel that if at this point, Naruto’s feelings for her were anywhere near as strong as they once were, he would have given at least some indication of it, but this wasn’t seen in the slightest. I therefore think that by this point, he had already been unknowingly moving on. He’d retain some of his crush habits (such as the girlfriend comment during the war), but nothing serious.
My words on the post I made from before I finished watching the show still ring true for me. I understand more why she did what she did, but I still think it was awful for her to leave her parents with nothing.
What happened to Hannah was disgusting. What happened to Jessica was disgusting. It needs to be talked about. Sexual assault isn’t anything to take lightly and I’m glad that this show allows for discussion to take place. It has to.
I don’t understand why the creative team felt the need to add in a few things during the last couple of episodes, and it left me with a few questions that will probably forever remain unanswered:
-What happens to Bryce?
-Does Jessica press charges?
-What happened after Sheri confessed?
-Is Jeff’s family gonna be alright?
-Why was Kat brought back for questioning?
-Do the Baker’s win the trial?
-What happens when Hannah’s parents listen to the tapes?
-What happens to Justin?
-Is Justin’s mom gonna be okay?
-What happens to Alex?
-Why did Tyler pack away those guns?
-Was Tyler planning a school shooting?
-Why did Tyler take down Alex’s picture?
-Did Tyler shoot Alex and stage it to look like a suicide attempt?
-If that’s true, does Alex know or remember what Tyler did?
-What does Mr. Porter do with the tapes?
-What does Mr. Porter do with his tape?
-How was Tony supposed to publicly release Hannah’s tapes if people didn’t follow the rules?
-Is Mrs. Jensen gonna be okay when she inevitably finds out the truth?
-Is Skye okay? Will she get better?
-Is Zach okay? Is Marcus okay?
-Is Mrs. Bradley going to be okay when she finds out what happened?
-What happens to Ryan?
-What happened to the pink journal that Hannah wrote all of her poetry in? (Honestly they may have covered this one in the show but I don’t remember)
-Does Courtney come out to her dads? To everyone?
-Does Courtney realize that Hannah was right? Does she stop apologizing for Bryce like Justin did?
-What was the point of that scene where Jessica was showing Bryce the guns? I didn’t understand what was going on tbh
Overall I still enjoyed the show. I realize that all of the characters are purposefully flawed, and what happened was truly tragic. I still believe that what Hannah did by not leaving anything with her parents was wrong but I understand more why she did what she did.
I think the show sparks a great conversation between everyone about the way we handle the smallest things in life. Everyone should be more careful and considerate. Everyone deserves a friend, so let’s all be friendly, you know? The hardest scenes to watch are the most important.
I hope that I’ve come back from this experience as a better person, and I hope that everyone else does too.
I don’t like that the show left so many things unanswered, but I guess that’s just one of the morals of the story itself: you can’t know everything. You can’t jump to conclusions and you can’t assume. And when something happens, you need to take it all in in order to be prepared for the next time- because there will be a next time.