Are you fucking serious about raw food? Dogs and cats are not designed to eat kibble. Raw food is what is best for them. Raw companies go through HPP, or similar processes, to disinfect their food. The bacteria in a dogs stomach is capable of breaking down anything that is left. Fuck you. I feel sorry for all the patients that you have recommended science diet to.
Ok, breathe. There’s no need to get so angry about this. We can disagree and have a discussion without name calling and being rude.
It seems like you misunderstood my original post. My points where that raw food is a serious public health concern, there is no peer-reviewed evidence proving the benefits of feeding raw, people should consult with their veterinarian to avoid malnutrition and learn proper sanitation techniques, and it is impossible for a person that is not a professional and has not evaluated your animal in person to make a recommendation about what food is best for your pet. I didn’t even say that no one should feed raw ever, I said that if you’re going to you should work with your vet. I acknowledged in my original post and I will acknowledge it now that are are situations when raw may be beneficial. However, there are also situations where kibble is beneficial. There are situations where canned food is beneficial. There are situations where homemade cooked diets (a much preferred alternative to raw) are beneficial. To say there is one kind of food that is best for every animal in every situation is irresponsible and inaccurate.
What is your background in animal physiology? Because it sounds like you have some fundamental misconceptions about how canine and feline digestion work. It is ruminants (cows, sheep, goats, etc) that do the bulk of their digestion via microbial fermentation. Microbes do a play a role in digestive health in cats and dogs (and humans!) but it is gastric secretions that are responsible for the inactivation of pathogens, including bacteria. Dogs are certainly capable of eating things that would make humans sick, but this doesn’t make them immune to infectious enteric diseases, primarily in young or immunocompromised individuals. You should also note my concerns about public health were directed primarily at human health concerns.
Also, “dogs and cats are not designed to eat kibble.” I know I can argue with people about this until I’m blue in the face and it won’t make a difference. Whether or not dogs and cats are “designed” to eat it, many of the available kibble diets have gone through clinical trials to prove that they actually do what they say they do. There is data that proves that they are safe, effective, and balanced for whatever stage of life they’re intended for. Again, we like science. We like repeatable evidence that something is safe and actually works like it’s supposed to before we as a profession are going to endorse it. There is data we can look back on not only for a brand, but for specific diets so we can see how that food actually performs. No such trials exist for raw, there is only anecdotal evidence that raw is any better for cats and dogs.
I honestly have no idea what you mean by HPP. High pressure processing? I don’t know where you got the idea that raw pet food routinely goes through that process or any other kind of decontamination process. Unless you’re outside the US, in which case I am not familiar with meat processing regulations. But here in the US, there is a thing called the Guidance
for Industry on the Manufacture and Labeling of Raw Meat Foods for
Companion and Captive Noncompanion Carnivores and Omnivores that is a voluntary guideline published by the FDA. But there is no routine decontamination of meat designed for pet food. Ideally, raw food processors would follow the same regulations that processed foods are required to adhere to, but there is little to no oversight from state or federal officials when it comes to raw pet food production. If you are buying human grade food for your pet, certainly the hygiene standards are significantly higher, but as I mentioned previously, you need to work with your vet to formulate a correct diet and avoid dangerous nutrient deficiencies.
I never specifically mentioned or recommended any particular brand of kibble, or really recommended one kind of diet in particular. I was asked my opinion on feeding raw diets, so I laid out the facts. I’m gonna sound like a broken record, but the fact is there is no evidence that feeding raw has any of the benefits proponents claim. OP if you, or anyone else, wants to feed raw, you can, as long as you’ve consulted with your veterinarian to ensure your diet is balanced and you are following sufficient sanitation protocols. I also want to point out this isn’t just my opinion. The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), US Food and Drug Administration (FDA), American Veterinary Medical Association (AVMA), American Animal Hospital Association (AAHA), the National Association of State Public Health Veterinarians (NASPHV), and the American Association of Feline Practitioners (AAFP) have all published or endorsed statements showing the lack of evidence of the benefits of feeding raw and warned about the associated public health concerns.
I’m going to end with one of my previous statements that sums of my feelings about ALL pet food: To say there is one kind of food that is best for every animal in every situation is irresponsible and inaccurate.