this is my favorite scene and if you disagree it's your fault


Here we go because so many people asked I’m gonna do ¾ front and back sketches of my P P G designs.  FYI, they were all designed on the fly during the making of P P G and are not meant to make sense outside of the scene I had imagined.  Consider what I was doing as a reimagining of the Powerpuff Girls rather than an interpretation of them as older girls.  I like individuality and I like creating characters that cause friction with each other due to faults because it creates room for dramatic development.  The differences in the girls is to potentially show that they always have something to learn from each other despite their differences.  So feel free to disagree and if you do, you have the liberty to interpret the girls your own way.

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Starting off with Sailor Venus–I mean, Blossom…she’s confident, smart, loves a good challenge, and is the self-proclaimed, righteous leader of the girls who fails to realize they have grown very much apart, making it difficult for her to operate the PPG as a functioning team.  She’s incredibly driven with an amazing work ethic and aspires to be the perfect role model for other little girls by being the best she can be, leading by example.  Her faults lie in failing to see people (including her sisters) as humans with feelings.  She’s a devoted superhero that struggles juggling between normal and super.  She can’t help but evaluate people as delicate things that need her help; something that was conditioned into her growing up without a secret identity.  Her intentions are all good but she has a lot of growing to do as a person and superhero.

Doing normal things while being a superhero has its benefits as well as it’s downfalls.  Blossom received her highschool diploma at a young age and is currently well into college at an age of around 17-going-on-18.  She chooses to work to pay off her college tuition fees.  She has multiple part-time occupations but her favorite job is at the retro diner/dog and cat cafe, “Puppydogs & Kittycats”.  Being an dog and cat enthusiast, she’s helped the cafe’s business grow.  

Blossom is given much respect and she fits in with the norm just fine but her academic peers find it too difficult to fit in her super busy world as she’s always off to save the day somwhere.  Her friends are there to support her but never have a real chance to connect on a more personal level.  Blossom has 24 hours in a day just like anyone else and you can imagine how her daily schedule would look like as a young adult.

At home, family life is fragile.  Professor Utonium cares as much as he can for her girls; for Blossom, giving her an ear to listen for when she needs to vent about everything she puts up with on a daily basis.  Blossom thinks she gets along well with Bubbles but in reality Blossom unknowingly disregards Bubbles input constantly which hurts Bubbles feelings.  Buttercup and Blossom generically butt heads as Buttercup is the only one fearless enough to openly point out Blossom’s faults.  There’s a lot of friction in the house but deep down, no one wants the family to break apart.


Bubbles is probably the most eccentric and yet most normal of the three girls [talking to animals and holding on to things from her childhood without shame, etc].  She’s full of life and love and loves life and loves laughing and has incredible compassion.  Her powers are an extension of her self so she’s most likely to use them in the most unconventional and creative ways.  Bubbles is the type to just go with the flow of things and is very slow to anger though never soft spoken when she feels the need to stand her ground.  Unlike Blossom and Buttercup, Bubbles remains with her appropriate age group throughout her education citing schools and kids are just as important to protect and serve as the rest of the city.  Bubbles is seen most by the public eye and is considered to be the most actively dutiful superhero, something she hardly minds since she apparently has more time on her hands then her sisters.

Bubbles’ daily life is quite easy going.  The only times she finds it challenging to remain positive is around her conflicting sisters, Blossom and Buttercup.  As someone who doesn’t enjoy taking sides, Bubbles finds herself often split between the two.  Outside of that, everyone at her school knows her and she most likely has more fans than she does friends, something else Bubbles hardly minds.  Her favorite subjects involve any of the creative arts.

Her relationship with her family is mostly all good.  When Blossom and Buttercup aren’t getting along and the professor fails to be the voice of reason, Bubbles usually smooths things over.  They’re all most appreciative of her and professor Utonium even believes the only reason they can still have a full table at dinner time is because no one wants to disappoint her.  Despite that, Bubbles’ sisters have hurt her on occasion because they’re too inconsiderate to her when they’re all in the same room.  Only in the event that something would happen to Bubbles would you see Blossom and Buttercup do anything together to make sure she was alright.


Buttercup is tough on the outside and on the inside.  Despite wanting to be as far of an opposite from Blossom, the two share a lot of the same traits.  Like her sister, Buttercup displays confidence, intelligence and loves a good challenge.  They both would rather do their own thing instead of taking orders.  The thing that defines them is their ability to control their emotions.  Blossom remains as collected as possible without completely blowing her lid while Buttercup is an ocean of emotions that can never be tamed and is quite insecure about showing any of her weakness.  Her short fuse causes a lot of issues in many areas of her life and the fact that she’s super powered means things could get super messy when she’s super upset.

Buttercup probably grew up with the most difficulty than the other girls.  While they were younger, her sisters and the professor were the only ones who could bring her up when she was down and as a result she can never truly hate any of them.  But as they got older, the differences in their individuality started to greatly set them apart.  Buttercup put her trust very easily into others and had been taken advantage of, unfortunately.  She’s the most emotionally vulnerable out of the three of girls.  As a result of personal experiences, Buttercup has stopped trusting others and mainly relies on herself.  She also does her best to defend those who can’t defend themselves.

She loves her family and she loves people [and would openly admit it] but Buttercup has issues dealing with anyone on a daily basis.  As someone who chooses to standout, it becomes infuriating for her when the citizens of Townsville do nothing but speculate why she’s so different from her sisters.  She has a hard time appreciating her fans over their comparative speculations that make her feel set apart and is therefore seen as somewhat of an outcast despite wanting to belong.  She can’t help but take her problems out on the only people that bother to put up with her; Blossom, Bubbles and professor Utonium.  A lot of her actions cause unnecessary issues that could be completed avoided if she opened up instead.  Regardless, Buttercup gets along fabulously with Bubbles and she is incredibly protective over her even though Bubbles can handle herself just fine.

cutie-kenma  asked:

YES do the whole Ultimate Relationship Tag for otayuri (if u wanna and/or have time)



Who is more likely to raise their voice?

yuri ofc, he is a Big Ball of Rage and he’ll always have the louder voice when they argue

Who threatens to leave but never actually does?

yuri, again (flashbacks to him saying “we’re through!!” literally 2 days after meeting otabek) he’s too impulsive and always says he’s going to leave but both of them know he’d never be able to

Who actually keeps their word and leaves?

otabek, only for a day or two and only on the worst of the worst fights. he often needs time alone to sort things out. its a v v v dramatic reunion scene when he comes home

Who trashes the house?

neither, although yuri tends to punch or kick the walls when he’s too angry

Do either of them get physical?

NEVER, although sometimes the things they say can be so scathing they wish they had been slapped instead

How often do they argue/disagree?

disagreements and mild arguing happen pretty often but actual, real fights that leave them aching only happen two or three times

Who is the first to apologise?

whoever knows they are at fault, like hell are they gonna apologize for something they didnt start lmfao

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My opinion on the topic if Riven is an abusive boyfriend

As I promised, here is my point of view of the whole topic. That means that with this post I neither try to lower the worth/truth of your opinion nor do I attack you personally. Everyone has its own opinion and that should be respected. Most of the posts I have seen about this topic lately were full of disrespect and intolerance. So if you disagree with my opinion, you can write me, so we can discuss it like civilized people do :)

Before I start I want to say that I love both, Musa and Riven. I do like Musa more than Riven, but they are both one of my favorites. Also both of them have their flaws. Musa is too often ignored when it comes to topics like this. Also I want to state my general opinion right here, because there are always people out there who don’t like criticism and maybe just don’t want to read another opinion. That is totally fine. 

So I don’t think Riven is an abusive boyfriend. If you now want to continue reading, I go more in detail under the cut.

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anonymous asked:

What are some good Leia/Han fics that you recommend?


As it happens, I already did this once, but since then I’ve

a)    Discovered several more fics and

b)    also figured I should, y’know, give summaries and ratings for these this time round so people won’t be going into it completely blind and hey, I’ve been meaning to make a masterpost for a while? (and one of these days I gotta do a complete SW one, but today is not that day)

 so without further ado PHIL’S SCOUNDRESS FANFIC MASTERPOST TAKE TWO and keep in mind that there are a lot out there, but these are basically the ones that have struck a chord in my heart. All of them are oneshots unless stated otherwise. I’ve divided it into categories for your convenience, because I am rad like that (but no links because that would take a million years and as you all know I’m still mostly trash):


Author: Limelight

- The Not Quite Love Letters

Summary: “Because, technically, the first love letter Solo wrote Organa was blackmail.” Probably one of the funniest, most precious pieces I’ve read, which does a masterful job of spanning the time between ANH and ESB with a perfect twist of humour and bittersweet emotion, and written through a collection of diary entries, ship’s logs, comm messages and high council meeting transcripts. No seriously, it’s hilarious. Multichapter, but unfortunately unfinished; however, due to the timeline and the format, this doesn’t really matter. Besides, it leaves off in the middle of ESB, and you know what happens next (Rating, T)

- Denial

Summary: “She was wearing his shirt. They made their assumptions”. Pre-ESB Leia in denial/reluctant acceptance. Also, she wears his shirt. (Rating, G+)

Author: LASOS

- Delicate 

Summary: “The words leave her mouth, a quiet whisper, and in that moment you realize that there was never any other choice.” Set between ANH and ESB; could be AU, depending on your mood. Once again, one of Han and Leia’s missions goes bottoms up. And it’s not even their fault, this time. (Rating, T)


- The Afterworlder Affair

Summary: “Some missions are harder than others.” Pre-ESB, Han is asked to act as Leia’s pilot and definitely-not-bodyguard on a sensitive mission for the Alliance. Only, things don’t go exactly as planned. A really interesting look at the types of missions Leia might have gone on, and as with most of Ivylore’s fics, it has a lot of really cool references to Alderaani, Corellian, and other sw cultures. Funny, emotional, and really well done. And by really well done I mean I essentially accept this as canon. Multichapter, short. (Rating, T)

Author: Holdouttrout

- Opportunities

Summary: “The game had long since degenerated into a game that was almost pure luck of the draw. Han was still winning.” The trio spends a night on the Falcon and basically it fulfills all of your pre-ESB trio dynamic dreams because they play sabacc and get drunk and Han and Leia have incoherent drunken midnight conversations that they probably wouldn’t have otherwise. It’s. Really sweet. I think the best way to explain it is to use the line, “it was certainly a task, corrupting the innocents.” (Rating, T)

Author: Zelland

- Oranges and Inferences

Summary: “Han Solo is quite sure that insanity is not triggered by breakfast beverages.” Leia likes oranges. And caf. Han struggles. Pre-ESB denial nerdiness I am so weak. (Rating, G+)

- It’s Only Skin Deep, After All

Summary: “Late-night musings of a Princess”. Leia, precious child that she is, might act tough as nails and completely no-nonsense, but the words “hey, beautiful” make her turn into a beetroot automatically. She wonders why. More pre-ESB loserishness man oh man (Rating, G+)

Author: musicforswimming

- Bad Decisions

Summary: “The cold is getting to Leia.” An interesting take on the pre-ESB relationship, in which Leia decides that her temporary insanity is definitely the fault of the weather. But honestly, I could see a friends-with-benefits thing going. Pre-ESB, obviously, sweet and funny and new. (Rating, T)

Author: Srellet

- Perfect Strangers

Summary: “Han helps Leia out with a peculiar problem.” Immediately post-ANH, it’s bittersweet and enormously cute; in which Leia realizes glumly that she doesn’t have any clothes to change into and wonders why the pirate and his Wookiee friend are being so nice to her. ReaD IT PLS U WILL NOT REGRET. (Rating, G+)

- A Bad Feeling

Summary: “Han has one of those feelings again when helping Luke and Leia out with a mission.” The nerds and Chewie go on a mission to extract sensitive information for the Alliance and things Get Complicated. Pre-ESB, a really interesting and sorta non-conventional take on What Happened In Ord Mantell, it’s funny and intense and in-character all at once. And, let’s be real, the only reason I’m reccing this so hard is because you have a whole scene in which Han and Leia get into a loud argument over which one of them it would make more sense for the Bounty Hunter to take in front of the Bounty Hunter poor guy doesn’t know what he got himself into. Multichapter. (Rating, T)

Author: runaway scrape

- Perchance to Dream

Summary: “Leia’s nightmare, Han’s stolen cup of caf stimulant – just another off-night on Hoth.” Okay okay SO not only does this awesomely show Leia’s chronic nightmares and insomniac tendencies, it also does it in a way that doesn’t make it a Big Thing and ugh gosh okay the fact that Han steals caf and then makes a big deal out of the caf-stealing when Leia wakes up from her nightmare to take her mind off of it is too precious b y E. Pre-ESB. (Rating, G)

Author: deaka

- Love Stories

Summary: “Nights are quiet aboard the Millenium Falcon.” Pre-ESB, Han seems convinced that Leia has more to live for than the Rebellion. Leia firmly disagrees. Also, it’s the middle of the night. (Rating,G+)


Author: Limelight

- Question

Summary: “If you don’t know the answer, always pick c.” Leia wonders how on earth she found herself lying naked in the dark cabin of an old spice freighter and quite possibly in love. (Rating, higher level T)

Author: Mathematica

- Fairytale

Summary: “He wasn’t a prince and this wasn’t a fairytale. But, somehow, it worked.” I think one of my favorite things about star wars is that it actually can be told in fairytale/bedtime story format, and just. This one. This one does such a beautiful job of incorporating that into the narrative. Han introspection, once again. (Rating, T)

- Shrodinger’s Cat

Summary: “Leia draws parallels as Han is frozen in carbonite” Oh my gosh guysGUYS IT’S. IT’S SO BEAUTIFUL MAN I just love the idea go read u will not regret (Rating, G+)

- When Lights Go Out

Summary: “You shatter the statutes by shutting her up, snaking your tongue between her parted lips, and gods, that was a stupid thing to do.” So usually I am not one to rec smutty stuff unless it is very tastefully done and, in true Mathematica fashion, it’s written with a poetic eloquence that makes it seem less than a narrative and more of a series of thoughts and MAN it’s nice (Rating, M for sexual content)

Author: Voluese

- Price The Ashes

Summary: “Leia released her grip on the bedclothes, let out a long breath. “Don’t tell me you were waiting outside my door.” She managed a smirk. “Are you that desperate to comfort me?”” This is. One. Of my favorite fics. To ever exisT MY GOLLY okay so it’s assuming that they spend more than a couple hours actually on Bespin and it’s just so beautifully in-character and adhering to all of my most cherished headcanons and the character voices are so point-on that you can practically hear ‘em speaking the lines in your head and basically it’s like the most ideal mix of sappy and funny and foreshadowing angst help GO READ IT. (Rating, T+)

Author: risinggreatness

- Labours Will Be Borne When All Is Done

Summary: “Leia stands tall as the world crumbles around her.” Post-ESB/Bespin slAYS ME ALWAYS and this one’s done so well help but anyway Leia is a boss. And everything is kinda sad. (Rating, T)

- They’re Tired and They Need to be Led

Summary: “After Hoth, the Falcon is cut adrift; Han and Leia are trapped with each other and their feelings.” bOY OH BOY this is. One of my FAVORITE trip-to-Bespin oneshots it’s just SO in-voice for me idk why BUT ALSO UGH GOSH THAT ENDING basically it blows you away and isn’t even that long pls read u will not regret (Rating, T)


Author: KnightedRogue

- Best Case Scenario

Summary: “Self preservation rears its ugly head during the Endor team’s first night on-planet.” After Luke leaves, Han and Leia chat in the small hours before the attack on the generator. (Rating, G+)

Author: risinggreatness

- Tell My Love to Wreck it All

Summary: “A year frozen in carbonite, and everyone’s changed – everyone, that is, except Han.” Missing scene ROTJ-goodness help me hold me I am so weak Han bby it will be okay (Rating, G+)

Author: My Barbaric YAWP

- In World’s Womb

Summary: “The events of the day have thrown Leia for a loop, but, given time to recover, her newly found peace may cement her newly found love.” Leia and Han, after Endor. Leia looks up at the stars and appreciates just existing. Incredibly sweet, in-character, and face-clutch-inducing. Go read it bros. (Rating, T)

Author: JeannieMac

- Victory, Later

Summary: “Han, Leia, and Luke in the aftermath of the Victory.” Leia tells Han about Vader, among other things. I just love this fic a lot. (Rating, T)


Author: LASOS

- Can’t Be

Summary: “An unexpected surprise has Leia questioning herself” post-ROTJ, could be considered AU depending on your mood, but it’s possible that this happened too. Bittersweet; Leia realizes she’s pregnant. (Rating, T)

Author: KnightedRogue

- Solo’s Girl

Summary: “a somewhat lighthearted look at what Han and Leia might to after the destruction of the second Death Star”. AU for the EU, certainly, but I am so so so in love with the concept of these two as NRI spies that I embrace this as mostly canon. (Rating, T+)

- Peace With The Dead

Summary: Leia fakes her death in public without warning anyone before hand, but really, it’s for Very Important Reasons. Post-ROTJ, written so fast-paced and in-character that it’s like you’re watching one of the movies. Multichapter (Rating, G+)

- The Infinite Pleasures of Paperwork

Summary: “The downside of Intel work.” Set in the universe of Solo’s Girl; Han complains to an amused and sympathetic Leia. (Rating, G)

- Three’s Company

Summary: “Stranded on a deserted planet, Han and Leia attempt to hide Leia’s pregnancy from an oblivious Lando.” Lighthearted, hilarious, and in-character. Also, I love Lando to bits. Tbh this is the only scenario in which I can accept Han being stubbornly over-protective of Leia because of baby reasons; they are stranded on a deserted jungle planet, after all. Multichapter (Rating, G+)

Author: Irnan

- Saturday I’m Running Wild

Summary: “First on the list: sober up. Next: help her haul The Kid to a medship, just in case. Then: check out the Falcon. Then: go find her again. No, take Luke to a medship, then check out the Falcon, then kill Lando, then go find her. That sounded better.” GoSH MAN BUT I love every single last scrap of Irnan’s work and this one has always been precious to me, especially since she always writes Han and Leia so casually and it’s such a nice take on their relationship. It’s nicer than nice. It’s the nicest. Set immediately after Endor. (Rating, T)

Author: Niicoly

- Selfish, Selfless

Summary: “When the Chief of State stands in your doorway and tells you how sorry she is about your wife’s death, it’s hard to remember that you’re not supposed to swear and break furniture when the kids are home.” I’m the kind of trash that recommends you half-of-your-otp-is-dead AUs I thought you all knew that by now. Almost painfully angsty, but I recommend it intensely. (Rating, G+)

Author: Ivylore [moRE FACE CLUTCHING]

- The Return to the Corporate Sector

Summary: “Shortly after the battle of Endor, Han receives a message summoning him back to the Corporate Sector to help an old friend. Except, this time, it’s not his past that’s coming back to haunt them.” OH MAN OH MAN do not. Do not get me started on this fic I WILL WAX POETIC so depending on your mood it’s AU for the EU but can technically work, I think. It is. One of THE most. IN-character, intensely action-packed, emotional, sexy, funny, and well-written Han/Leia fics I’ve ever read. Basically, Han and Leia have a Grand Adventure that somehow lands them in heaps of trouble. Because of course it does. Extra bonus of massive amounts of sarcasm. Again, I don’t recommend dirtytimes unless it’s extremely tasteful and well done, but if that’s not your thing, I still stress that you check this fic out and skip over those parts. Multichapter (Rating, M for sexual content and a bit of sort-of-graphic violence)

- Restless Spaces

Summary: “Moments alone on a quiet ship.” Missing moment(s) from return to the corporate sector, but you don’t have to have read that one at all to read this. Leia stays up at night thinking about her father – but, you know, not that father. Her other father. Han has bedhair and talks about shockball. Also there’s a holo of him as a kid. (Rating, T)

- Renewal

Summary: “A darker take on the events after ROTJ”. Okay so when this says “a darker take”, it is a muchdarker take. While I usually balk at fics like this, I have to say here that if you read past the first chapter you immediately realize that it could very realistically happen this way, if you were in an angsty mood. Despite this, and the fact that there are a few loose ends at the end and I don’t entirely agree with everything, it remains very much in-character and insanely captivating, as with all of Ivylore’s work. Basically, Leia has realistic PTSD and Issues after ROTJ and shuts herself off from everyone, causing her and Han to have a massive fight that ends in Han leaving. Physically. It’s complicated. And then she and Luke crashland on a planet, nearly die, and Luke is accused of Imperial Shadiness. In essence, one massive, angst-ridden, exciting, suspenseful, hot, emotional, and bittersweet-funny Trio Adventure. Multichapter. Set in the same universe as her other fics (Rating, M for mature themes and sexual content)

Author: Holdouttrout

- Measure of a Scoundrel

Summary: “Leia’s in a bad mood.” I have many firm ideas about how either one of them proposed but this one has always been one of my favorites. Also it hints as my trashy obscure ship of Janson/Mothma so yeah I am weak (Rating, T)

- Tedium

Summary: “Notice to all field operatives: Please remember that all field paperwork is to be submitted in triplicate, and bound with a two-hole punch at the top edge of the paper, using Derig’s G-547 paper binders only. Thank you, Compliance.” Written as a sort of companion piece to KnightedRogue’s “the infinite pleasures of paperwork”, it’s set in generally the same universe, wherein Han and Leia are spies for the NRI. Technically AU, as real life paper isn’t a thing in sw, but that’s not the point. It’s really cute. Leia goes on a mission to find her missing box of paper binders and gets ambushed in the Supply closet. (Rating, T) 

Author: Sabbac Gal

- Rapture

Summary: “Han and Leia, post-Endor”. Leia wonders about the mythical spacer’s sickness that comes from staring out into hyperspace for too long. It’s really really. Really good. (Rating, M)


Summary: “They both knew the game was about to get a lot more complicated.” Han and Leia in the months after Endor. I’ve never ever read that particular part of the EU but anything with appearances/references to Doc and Jessa Vandagante and Han backstory has me immediately hooked it’s really weird man. Anyway another one of those Ensemble Adventures that gets tricky along the way. GO READ it’s very very good. Multichapter, short (Rating, M for sexual content)


Author: Limelight

Your Contribution to the War Effort

Summary: “Han isn’t by the book.” Introspection, second person Han’s POV. One of my FAVORITE star wars fics. Ever. (Rating, T)

Author: LASOS

- Han Solo and the Princess

Summary: “Five times Han Solo proposes to Leia Organa.” Just. read it okay (rating, G)

- Bad Advice for Secret Affairs

Summary: “An OT AU romantic dramedy in which Han Solo never left the Imperial Navy and the Tantive IV was never captured over Tatooine” Sadly incomplete, but with the potential to be hilarious. Man, I just adore this AU concept in every shape, size, or form. Multichapter (Rating, T)

- From a Certain Point of View

Summary: “A look at the Han/Leia relationship in various points of time…from a certain point of view.” The losers’ love story told through the eyes of friends like Jabba the Hutt, General Rieekan, and Mon Mothma. My Third Greatest Weakness tm is outsider-POV opinions on otps sO yeah GO READ. Multichapter of one-shots (Rating, T)

- Fairytale Endings

Summary: “They shared in the disaster of best-laid plans, once.” AU, incredibly angsty, I have no idea why you’d want to subject yourself to this or why I’m suggesting you do, but the universe basically implodes right around the middle of ROTJ. Read it, bros (Rating, M for mature themes)

Author: Mathematica

- Five Things That Never Happened To Han Solo

Summary: A collection of what-ifs, told in Mathematica’s beautiful bordering-on-poetry style. AU (Rating, G+)

Author: pieandsouffle

- No Surprises

Summary: “He’s made it through the Imperial Academy; years of training; transferal to the largest Battle Station ever built, and then this princess walks in and tosses his already shaky doubts about the Empire in his face.” mORE of THIS AU UGH IT IS THE GRE A T E S T. AU, obviously; Han never got kicked out of the navy and is posted on the Death Star when the Tantive is captured. Leia is a terrible prisoner. (Rating, G)

YEAH I AM 96.23957% SURE THAT’S ALL OF ‘EM so. Do not take offense if a favorite fic of yours is not featured as I am a trash Creative Writing Student and very picky with these things. HAPPY READING FRIENDS.

(Not) Too Deep

Hi guys! I’ve been working on this one-shot for a while and last night I finally finished it. It is based on a prompt the amazing @tvfreakinabox sent me (something like Grace and Hannah doesn’t know each other and Grace invites her to record a Not Too Deep and they click, which leave them wanting ‘more’) and I had a lot of fun writing it. I hope you have fun reading it too.

Hartbig AU. All lies and all that jazz. SFW. SFF. 4360+ words.

“Hannah, come here. You need to watch this video.”

Hannah turns her head to look at Linnea, raising her eyebrows when she spots the large grin on her face.

“Sure dude.” She places her laptop over the coffee table and stands up, the sound of her bare foot hitting the ground echoing through the small living room. She places a hand over Linnea shoulder, peeking over it and frowning deeply when she notices which video her friend was talking about. “Grace’s August favorites are that funny?”

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Sunday Morning Musings: How Olicity Has Enhanced the Characterization of Felicity Smoak

Good morning. It’s become customary at this point that each Sunday morning I sit down and contemplate on Arrow over the previous week with a nice cup of coffee. This morning, I’m already on my second cup in anticipation of sharing the details of today’s topic with you.

As many of you know, I tend to engage in a variety of conversations throughout social media about Arrow, Olicity, Oliver Queen, John Diggle, and of course, Felicity Smoak. This was an interesting week. Felicity Smoak and Olicity seemed to be a hot topic on the lips of lovers and haters alike. I consider that highly complementary. Especially considering Felicity Smoak may have had all of what, five lines the entire episode? An episode that was dedicated to….well, not Felicity Smoak.

Over the course of my many conversations, a couple of male Felicity fans commented that, “This is our fault, we did this to her.” “Olicity is ruining Felicity.”

Of course, my first instinct was to brush off their concerns and chop it up to Emily Bett Rickards’ relationship with her fanboys that tends to place them in a protective state over her that would put fangirls to shame. But then I thought about it and really analyzed that theory.  So today – consider this morning’s musings a love letter to the Olicity fans out there that spent this week protecting the right of Felicity Smoak’s agency within the Olicity dynamic.

In the words of my favorite Blerd blogger (when told Felicity was getting hate): “I didn’t even know there were people out there that hated Felicity.”

Word, girl. So.much.WORD.

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Affirmation: Olicity or “How I Refused To Be Brainwashed by Anti Bullshit:101″

Warning: I’m a wee blunt in this.  Uncharacteristically so, I think, but in times like these, being nice and polite and “The Diplomat” doesn’t always get the job done.  Hopefully you’ll read it through. I know it’s on the long side, but every point is important. You might want to get some coffee or something before you start. ;)

It’s been a wild and crazy few weeks, hasn’t it, Oliciters?  When things like this happen (and I think we’ve all been through stuff like this in one fandom or another so a part of us can sympathize, of course), it can be hard to resist getting dragged into the fray, especially when you and what you love becomes a target.

The Olicity fandom has always done a pretty good job of staying out of the mess, but as things have heated up and attacks are lobbed, new agendas erupt, and tempers flare, it’s important to remember a few important things and hold strong to a few simple truths (or “affirmations,” if you will). 

It’s also critically important for Olicity fans to remember this very important concept in this mess:

Do not become brainwashed by anti/hater rhetoric so that you inadvertently become an echo chamber of their anger or agendas.

Yeah, I know, you’re looking at that line thinking, “WTH?  I would never…!” 

Originally posted by just-a-crazy-nerd

Sounds weird, right?  But it happens.  I’ve seen it happen in other fandoms.  Hell, I’m seeing glimmers of it happening here, peeking through in odd spots, and it’s something every viewer of any show really needs to be consciously aware of as it’s happening.

Examples I’ve seen lately….

Previously: I love Felicity in the field, on missions, and doing stunts with Oliver!  I want more of that!  When’s the next Olicity stunt/mission/field work?

Counter Claim: Felicity Smoak isn’t part of Team Arrow! She doesn’t belong in the field and on missions!  She’s “just” a hacker who never needs to get out from behind her keyboard!  This is an action show and the only people who should be doing these are the suited heroes!  Besides, she’s never been in any of that before!

Echo Effect: Well… Felicity Smoak doesn’t need to be on missions or in the field or doing stunts.  She’s a hacker and awesome all on her own.  It’s okay if she doesn’t ever get to do those things again even though she did all of it and more in Seasons 1 and 2. (since bloody when?!)

Previously: I love the blend of action and romance on Arrow that Olicity brings. I want more of that for them!

Counter Claim: Arrow isn’t a soap opera!  It’s an action show!  No romance!  No Olicity!  KILL IT!  KIIIIIILLLLL IT WITH FIRE!!!!!!!!  (…until you put Oliver with who I want him to be with, then romance is okay because it’s not really “romance” it’s “canon.”  This is Oliver’s story [but that can’t exist without my fav being on the show & in all the stories])!

Echo Effect: Well… Arrow shouldn’t be about romance.  It is an action show.  Maybe Oliver and Felicity (and really, that just means Felicity) shouldn’t be on as much or included in missions or stunts or action (even though they just argued it’s an action show and it’s the action/missions that are important) because Felicity’s such a hero that she doesn’t need to be included in any of the action elements that…  um…. other people claim the show should focus on.  I guess it’s okay to remove Felicity from everything “action” oriented while everybody else gets to do it ‘cause… canon… and other stuff?

Originally posted by crimsonlippedbeast

Previously: I love Felicity Smoak!  I can’t wait to learn more about her, origins, see her interact more with Thea, Diggle, Quentin, and {{{insert your fav here}}}.  Gimme more!!!!

Counter Claim: This is Oliver’s story and journey.  Felicity shouldn’t have family on the show.  She shouldn’t have a story about herself.  She shouldn’t get “growth.”  Put her back to what she was in Season 1 (aka irrelevant, a recurring cast member, not leading lady category airtime, not Oliver’s love interest, and only on for about a minute or two an ep).  The focus should be on MY favorite (and their family, their growth, their evolution and journey) because comic canon!  And all these people should have scenes with MY favorite.  Never Felicity.  That’s not organic!

Echo Effect: Well… It is Oliver’s journey.  The stories should be all about him.  I guess Felicity doesn’t need that stuff ‘cause she’s awesome.  So….

This push is an insidious brainwashing that slowly seeps in over time, sort of like water droplets steadily dripping on a rock.  Before you know it, you’re starting to *believe* the propaganda designed to do one thing: Edge out all the things YOU love and replace them with things you don’t like, don’t want to see, and thus winds up decreasing your interest in the show.  From there it’s a short step to getting bored and changing the channel.  And you helped do it to yourself.

This is when tightening your fandom/ship bubble becomes vital to surviving being an online fandom as people try to kick you around, shut you down, make you shut up, and step off so they can move in and do their damnedest to erase every single thing you like from the show to replace it with their thing.

So what’s going on these last few days?  Intense criticism.  Diversion.  Finger-pointing.  Blame-games.  “You did this!” “It’s your fault!”  “You’re the reason why!”  “It if wasn’t for you….!”


Back away slowly (and mute and block these people while you’re at it) because… and there’s no nice way to say it:

1. Arrow is - as Stephen Amell himself said years ago - a Meritocracy.   What works stays.  What doesn’t work goes.

At the time, when talking about meritocracy in the interview, Stephen said, “I mean, you don’t want to stomp all over the canons and sort of the expectations of people that have read the comics all their lives, but at the same time you gotta make a good show and you don’t wanna bite that hand that feeds you, so to speak.  … If someone comes out and equits themselves on the show, then great, but if someone comes in that doesn’t work then the opposite happens.”

More recently, the Arrow show-runners have stressed that none of their choices have anything to do with Felicity or Olicity or their fans.  The CW/Arrow’s business and story-telling decisions are just that: business and story-telling decisions that have nothing to do with Oliver, Felicity, Olicity, or Oliciters.

If people – be it other fans, people writing blogs or articles – can’t read, don’t understand, don’t want to understand, or don’t want to believe the execs, that is 100% not our problem or fight, Oliciters.  So wipe that crap off your shoes on some grass and keep on walking.

2. Arrow wants to be a show people want to watch.

That’s its job.  To make you want to tune in.  Now, will people agree what that means?  Of course not.  But disagreeing about what appeals or draws doesn’t mean it’s universally true for everyone.  Someone ranting (or twelve someone’s ranting) about disliking something doesn’t mean the entire Arrow viewership feels the same way.  So if the show lets something go?  They’re basing that an informed decision and removing it.  See Meritocracy in #1.  Reread til it’s etched on your brain.

3. Arrow Does NOT Follow Comic Canon.  The choices Arrow execs/writers make are NOT mandated by the comics.

OMG can we tattoo this somewhere on a body part or something because, dude, how many times do the executives of Arrow have to reiterate this point? Four years later and we’re still arguing about this.

Arrow carves its own path.  It does what it feels is right for the story and for the show.

As soon as someone starts with “But in the comics….” just walk away.  Walk away!  Arrow is not the comicsThe comics are not Arrow.  Bleach this from your brain and let it go.  The Arrow execs and writers clearly have.  It’s time for viewers to do the same.

Let me just break in some reality here.

Green Arrow comics, at their height (and I’m going back FIFTEEEN YEARS for this number, btw) sold approx. 92,000 in one month back in 2001 (North American sales).  I’m going by a database of comic book sales here, so if anybody wants to argue that number with anybody, argue it with the database people, not me.  Also, keep in mind that not everybody reading the comic is watching the show.  Got it?  Good.

Arrow currently has (the last Live+7 Day adjustment I saw) a total viewing audience of  3,848,000 viewers.

Originally posted by learnthehelloutathis

Let’s do the math, shall we?

That means that (going by that height of 2001 North American readership), those comic book readers represent about 2.4% of Arrow’s total viewership.

If you go by current sales (North America, February 2016) of 22,096, that potential total comic book reader viewership percent drops to 0.57%  I’ll be generous and round up to 1% here.

According to estimates, online viewers represent only 5% of a TV shows total viewership.  So all of us online here?  We’re about 192,400.  That’s it.

The rest of Arrow’s viewership?  That other 95% of offline viewers?  Those other 98%-ish that have never cracked a Green Arrow comic and totally don’t give a fart in a fog-storm about comic canon anything?  They make up around 3,771,040 viewers.

Does anybody honestly think that the network or Arrow or its writing room is controlled by 192,000 of us online while ignoring any input or ratings date from the other 3.7 million viewers they have?  At some point common sense and logic have to kick in here.  Or maybe not.  This is the internet.  But still.

Originally posted by allreactions

Maybe, just maybe, what gets on the screen, what stays on the screen, what the Arrow execs and writers pursue, are pursued and developed because the majority of their research and data confirms to them that these things *sell* and are popular.  It confirms the majority of viewers *likes* these things and enjoys tuning in for them and THAT is why they continue to be on our TV screens every week.

Meritocracy.  That’s how it works.

4. Oliver Queen, Felicity Smoak, and Olicity are things people like to watch. 

How do you know that?  Because all three elements are still on the show.  Because the network chooses to give each of those airtime.  Airtime the Network clearly feels (most likely based on research, ratings, surveys, etc) have earned that right to get.  That means those elements & characters get to stay.  They get to be on the screen.  They get to get focus.  See Meritocracy in #1.  Reread til it’s etched in your brain.  If Oliver, Felicity and Olicity get screentime it’s because, like them or not, they’ve apparently earned that right through good reception/feedback from the total viewership.

5. The Success of and/or Inclusion of Oliver, Felicity, or Olicity does not impede the success or failure or any other element of Arrow.

Now I know that Oliver, Felicity and Olicity are all magical beings capable of all sorts of miracles and glittery sorcery, but you know what they’re not capable of doing?   Making another part of Arrow fail.  I mean, if the flashbacks bore people, can you stand on a chair, jump up and down, screaming, “That’s Olicity’s fault!  Olicity made those flashbacks boring!  Evil Olicity!  EEEEEEVIIIIIIILLLLL!”

Originally posted by sodamn-pop

Exactly.  You know why?  Because it’s not Oliver/Felicity/Olicity’s job to hold up, support, pimp, prop, or propel anything.  Their job is to sell *themselves.*  If something – be it a story element, a story, a character, etc – flops?  The responsibility for that falls on *that* thing and that thing period (be it acting, writing, interest, whatever).

Sometimes a show tries something and it just doesn’t work (Example: Guggenheim’s recent comments on courtroom scenes falling ‘flat,’ not being the ‘strongest element’ of Arrow, and how the show isn’t built for them).  Removing elements from a show that the network feels no longer work is part of the evolution of a show. It’s how a show stays on the air longer.  It happens.  A look at Arrow’s first season alone should show you how hyper aware the network is about tweaking the show as it goes along.

If something (a story, a character, a couple, whatever) cannot survive on its own merit… if it can’t garner enough viewer interest or support on its own… if the show can’t produce further story it feels is compelling enough, interesting enough, or appealing enough, the sad truth is… it deserves to be eliminated. 

Olicity is not responsible for anything failing.  They’re not responsible for gum disease, global warming, or the limp fries you got at the drive-thru either.

Say it with me, Oliciters: Meritocracy.  The characters and things on Arrow have to earn their place or expect to be shuffled out the door. 

6.  Oliver, Felicity, and Olicity have ALL earned the right to development, screen-time, focus, evolution, and story.

You cannot turn around without seeing praise for Oliver/Stephen, Felicity/Emily, or Olicity by mainstream media.  You attend a con and their names are on almost everybody’s lips.  Felicity merchandise continually sells out.  Olicity is used as click-bait in almost every article about Arrow.  Even if an article has nothing to do with Olicity, the media finds a way to work it in there.  Why?  Because people care about them.  Because people react to them.  People care (love it/hate it) about it.  It’s proven to be an attention getter.

That’s meritocracy, folks.  Olicity has – over the course of four years – earned their right to every single second of story, screentime, and focus.  Period.

If something else gets better reaction or interest, you can bet your Aunt Harriet’s prized Pomeranian that the execs of Arrow will make room for it.

But to blame a failure or remove of anything from the show “on” Olicity?

Originally posted by sagedandconfused

7. BEWARE! Oliver/Felicity/Olicity’s popularity means others will want to latch on to it; manipulate it, silence it, or use it for their own agenda. 

I’ve talked about “Playing Smart” before and I’m going to stress it here, again.  Play Smart, Olicity fans.  You, your voice, your tweets, your blogs, your strength in social media savviness, are powerful tools for the show and those things you love.  You know how to use it.  You know its value.  Other people will ride you harder now – guilt you, manipulate, etc., – to use that voice for their stuff, and trust me, that stuff?  Will never be in your favor, nor in the favor of the things/people/couples you like.

If it’s one thing that should be crystal clear after the last few weeks, it’s that a lot of the same people screaming, “Support all women!” and “Support female friendships on the show!” or “Hey, we should all just get along!” or “X and Y are friends on the show, you have to support them / trend for them / campaign for them BOTH now!” are many of the same exact people out there right now tweeting, boycotting, signing petitions, trashing, slandering, emailing, campaigning, and more to destroy all the things you love, including Felicity, Emily, and Olicity, and even trying to get people fired all to save their stuff.

So.  How’d all that "let’s stand together” “all women must support each other” “we should be an Arrow family” “you have to support the whole show” agenda manipulation work out for you and your favs now?

8. Agenda Support Will Always Bite You In The Ass.  Always.  Do Not Do It.  Say NO!

Maybe you think it sounds good.  Maybe you think it’ll quiet haters or stem their vitriol.  Maybe you think if you support X, it will result in Y.  Whatever it is?  Stop.  Step back.  Really look at what you’re doing and ask yourself one simple question: If this thing you are lending agenda support to succeeds… is it really something you want to see airtime devoted to? Do you really want it?  Do you really, truly like it?  Is it something that will negatively impact the characters, couples, stories, you really do watch Arrow for?  What do you think this will “get you”?  Because the answer will always be: No, it won’t.  No, it doesn’t.  And any possible way it can shaft you in your darkest, most paranoid nightmares… it will.

Do. Not. Agenda. Support. Anything.  It will backlash.  It will bite you in the ass.  It will make you sorry you ever thought of lending your support to it.  It will be a blackhole of despair for you, your favs, and anything else you can imagine. 

Agenda Support is the equivalent of the Bermuda Triangle.  By the time you figure out what you’ve flown into?  It’s already too late.  You’re dead in the water.

Originally posted by itsgeekylife

If something cannot succeed on its own, with its own fans, without bargaining, bribing, guilting, or blackmailing faux support from you?  It doesn’t deserve to be on the screen.  See Meritocracy in #1.  Reread it til your brain bleeds.

9. Our Support of Oliver/Felicity/Olicity Does *Not* Deny Anyone Else Their Voice.

“If Olicity fans would just shut up, I could be heard.”

Originally posted by selcandy

Every viewer of Arrow has the opportunity to be heard.  They have the same access to social media that we *all* do.  We all can be heard and make our opinions known.  Period. 

Olicity fans do not “silence” anyone.  Olicity fans social media presence does not mystically erase other voices. 

We are not responsible for how, if, or when other people do or do not show up to support their favorite things. 

We do not control anyone.  We speak for no one.  Each of us speaks only for ourselves.

If Arrow happens to develop things on the show that Olicity fans like, suggest, request, or support, doesn’t mean Olicity fans “made it happen.”  It means the network felt there was enough interest behind those ideas as a whole from the TOTAL VIEWERSHIP data to “go there.”

Contrary to popular belief, Olicity fans aren’t all powerful.  We aren’t the Oz behind the curtain.  What we are are people who love the show, get excited about the things we like, are vocal about that excitement, and make sure that we vocalize support for the things that increase our enjoyment of each and every episode.  We are not shy about sharing these thoughts, ideas, etc., with the show runners. 

Originally posted by bettermarketingideas

Just because we often happen to be in tune with the writers room/execs doesn’t mean the show does them *because* we suggested them. I hate to say it, Olicity fans, but it is wholly possible that we just have awesome fucking good taste.  Oh the heavy burden we carry in being visionaries for things that actually could make Arrow even more fun to tune in to each week.  (Ahem.  Donna Smoak.  SmoaknLance.)

If other people choose not to speak up, that’s their problem, not ours.  If they happen to like something the show decides to abandon or not do, that’s not our fault.

Meritocracy, remember?  Meritocracy.

Originally posted by undercoverstiles

Oh, and that “real fan” bullshit?  Has anybody realized the anti is always the one who gets to define what a “real fan” is and that it never, ever will include you or what you like?  I hope you have.  It’s bullshit of the highest, deepest, most odoriferous, steaming pile, and it is meant to do one thing: Invalidate you and silence you.

Originally posted by nerdreamer

Don’t fall for it.

You don’t have to have watched Arrow from the pilot to be a “real fan.”   You don’t have to have ever read a comic to be a “real fan.”  You don’t have to pass some secret society handshake in order to be recognized as a “real fan.”  You don’t have to have (or not have) a blog, Tumblr, Facebook, or be a member of this board or that forum to be a “real fan.”  You don’t have to have a zillion followers to be a “real fan.”  You don’t have to “be a name” in the fandom (whatever the hell that’s supposed to mean) to be important to the show or the show runners. 

Do you watch Arrow? Guess what?  Congratulations!  You’re a “real fan,” and hearty *&^% You to anybody who tells you different.

10. Be an Advocate for the things you like

You can’t go to a convention, follow a show person on social media, read an article, or watch an interview without hearing an actor or exec/writer thank their fans for supporting what they love, being there to campaign for them, showing the love for their character/story/couple because – in this age of social media and the 4th wall being torn down between viewer and show and competition from 900 channels + streaming devices like Netflix – being a positive, supporting fan can make the difference between your favorite show staying on the air, your favorite character/actor keeping their job, getting good story and (if the show has to make hard decisions) being the one shown the door.

So be excited.  Be passionate.  Be an outspoken fan.  Give yourself permission to like what you like. Somebody has a problem with that?  Too bad.  Forget them and move on. 

Be the fan YOU wish other people would be, Oliciters.  That means:

  • Remember that Oliver, Felicity and Olicity are part of Arrow.  Supporting it IS supporting the show.  There’s a reason the Olicity hashtag was mentioned in AdWeek in an article about 10 Tips To Creating the Perfect TV Show Hashtag.  Use it without shame and use it proudly.
  • Shipping sells.  Shipping is big business.  There isn’t a show out there that doesn’t embrace its shippers or understand the profit involved in finding a ship that works.  In fact, I’ve noticed an increase in various shows’ social media accounts using their ship tags much more frequently.  Gee. I wonder why.

Originally posted by samisoffthewall

  • There’s nothing wrong with romance.  There’s no shame in liking it.  It is not “less valuable” than any other storytelling element or part of Arrow (not masks, not action, not stunts, not drama).  There’s a reason romance stories are included in almost every show, movie, book, etc.  It. Sells.  Oh, and don’t buy that it’s only a ‘girl thing.’  Plenty of men like romance too.
  • Be an advocate for everything you love.
  • Be vocal!  Be loud and proud in that support.
  • Never, ever apologize for being that vocal fan or for engaging positively with the show/writers/execs/actors to show that support.
  • Never feel “bad” or “guilty” for showing positive support for what you love, for the show, or being an engaged fan.  Show no remorse for being an awesome fan.  Other shows would kill for this kind of engaged fandom.  Understand your worth to them and don’t let anyone tell you different.
  • SHOW UP!  Be there when there’s an opportunity to show your support for those things (polls, challenges, trends, contests, post responses, media taking viewer questions for spoiler columns).  See opportunity everywhere to show your passion & support.
  • Do not rely on other people to be that voice for you.  Don’t assume “someone else” will do it in your place.  Do not become complacent. Do not assume.  Never be silent. 
  • Do not absorb the anti/hater voice and accidentally brainwash yourselves into believing their junk.
  • Remember that every social media platform & everything you talk about is monitored, recorded, and reported.   Play Smart.
  • Create buzz only for the things you like & support.  Ignore stuff you don’t.  Silence is apathy.  Apathy is the only thing that networks see as “bad” feedback.  Love it or hate it, if you’re talking about it?  It’s all seen as good. 
  • Ignore haters.  Ignore antis.  Ignore trolls.  Block.  Mute.  Forget about them.  Most importantly?  Do NOT absorb their brainwashing rhetoric
  • Above all else, have fun.  Please.  Lock  yourself in your bubble if you have to.  Just find a way to recenter yourself on your own enjoyment, your own peace, your own sense of fun, and stay there.  Unfollow places/people/things that are negatively impacting you.  Be vigilante of your online experience and make it work for you.  Refuse to be a hostage to those who want to make your online time unpleasant or make you as unhappy as they are.  Do YOU, Oliciters, and let the rest of these people fight among themselves in a vacuum not worthy of your attention, energy, or focus (or added buzz).  They want attention?  Make them earn it themselves.

So go, Olicity fans.  Enjoy the rest of the season and the next.  Enjoy all the things about Arrow you love and do it with passion and fun and enjoyment.  Have fun out there!


I understand and respect the fact that you are uncomfortable with a relationship like that, but given the fact that it is entirely legal, you cannot tell someone what to do. If this were real life, you would not just randomly walk up to people and tell them they cannot be in a relationship, no matter how loving and respectful it is, because you’re uncomfortable with it. Get real! You don’t like that kind of relationship? Don’t have one. Also, for further important explication, read this

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Jordan Parrish is a nice guy. Period. He never once made a move on Lydia, he was never inappropriate with her, he never insulted her, she never felt uncomfortable in his presence, he always helped her when she needed it. He’s a nice guy. You don’t need to call him an asshole just because you feel he’s a threat to your choice of ship. He isn’t guilty of anything yet so stop punishing him.

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Regarding the “Who will save Lydia from Eichen House?” question (from the season 5B trailer): Apparently, to some people, the important thing is not getting Lydia out from a place where she’s constantly tortured, no, what matters to some is who exactly gets her out of there. Personally, I don’t care who takes her out of that place as long as she gets out, but for some other people, if isn’t Stiles, or whoever, she might as well rot in there.

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Listen. I’m not an expert on supernatural hallucinations and I’m certainly not inside Jeff’s brain, but some people don’t even know the definition of hallucination in medical terms. A hallucination (A perception of something [as a visual image or a sound] with no external cause usually arising from a disorder of the nervous system [as in delirium tremens or in functional psychosis without known neurological disease] or in response to drugs [as LSD].) is not voluntary. In our context, I believe that the hallucinations are a direct result of the link/bond/connection that Lydia and Parrish share (they’re both harbingers of death) and, probably, it can be used as a form of communication, seeing as that’s what happened in S05E11, where Jordan hallucinates Lydia and then goes to find her.

IMPORTANT NOTE: A hallucination =/= a fantasy/fantasizing about someone. Or anything else. (A hallucination is a perception in the absence of external stimulus that has qualities of real perception. Hallucinations are vivid, substantial, and are seen to be located in external objective space. They are distinguishable from these related phenomena: dreaming, which does not involve wakefulness; illusion, which involves distorted or misinterpreted real perception; imagery, which does not mimic real perception and is under voluntary control; and pseudohallucination, which does not mimic real perception, but is not under voluntary control. Hallucinations also differ from “delusional perceptions”, in which a correctly sensed and interpreted stimulus [i.e., a real perception] is given some additional [and typically absurd] significance.)

For all we know, the hallucinations could be created by Lydia herself. I propose we wait until we’re given an explication in the show, if we’ll be given one.

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Calling Jordan a “pedophile” and a “rapist” (or similar words) makes you an irrelevant ass who downplays the horrific experiences of people who actually had the misfortune to meet a rapist/pedophile.

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The difference in the power dynamic: Jordan Parrish has never used his authority over Lydia against Lydia. Yes, that would be problematic, especially if he did it with malicious intent, but he has NEVER done it. IT NEVER HAPPENED so it’s irrelevant. Also, as someone else already stated: In this context, Jordan, doesn’t have authority only over Lydia, but also over everyone else who is not part of the police or doesn’t have a higher status than him, power wise. By people’s logic, Jordan might as well die alone because WHAT IF!!!!

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Please stop dismissing Lydia’s needs, wants and feelings. There are people out there who are not only hostile towards Jordan, Malia or any possible love interest of Lydia’s (or Stiles’), but towards Lydia herself. Lydia can’t be happy unless she’s happy with who they want her to be happy. I’m not saying you should be happy about Parrish/Lydia, I’m just saying that you could respect Lydia a little bit more and not shit on her happiness and turn it into something nasty.

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Gonna clear a few things first: I’ve never liked Stiles that much and then I started to hate him. I think he’s selfish, self centered, he’s entitled, he’s a victim blamer, he’s ableist (this is a sensitive issue for me), he’s abusive, he sometimes doesn’t know how to take “no” for an answer, he treats his friends poorly (especially Scott) and he treated his ex-girlfriend, Malia, pretty poorly too. He also had (maybe still has???) a creepy obsession with Lydia which I’ve never considered “love”. I also think he’s boring. Now all of these things would make sense if he was a villain, or just a bad guy, but he’s supposed to be the good guy and he’s constantly placed in a good light by a lot of people and that is annoying.

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One of the things that made me angry the most is how the writers used Scott/Kira to further push a Stiles/Lydia agenda. I’m sorry, but the fact that Scott and Kira, both being Malia’s friends, would talk about how Stiles still has “feelings” for Lydia is not only insulting for Malia, but also to Scott and Kira themselves. Personally, I find that whole scene to be OOC for both Scott and Kira. It was either fanservice or complete bullshit. Scott and Kira would say something to both Stiles and Malia if they knew Stiles wasn’t fully committed to his relationship. That’s how I see Scott and Kira and that’s how I see their friendship to Stiles and Malia.

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There’s a part of this fandom who worships Void!Stiles. It’s not that I’m against villains, but I’m against Void!Stiles. Allison Argent is one of my favorite characters in the show and she’s no longer alive because of Void!Stiles. There hasn’t been a funeral or so much as a mention or moment of grief since season 3B ended with the exception of her father, Lydia Martin and Jordan Parrish.

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“Stiles has loved Lydia ever since…” Okay. So what? Does that mean Lydia owes it to Stiles to love him back? No. Love doesn’t work that way. He could have loved her since he was in his mother’s womb and Lydia would still owe him nothing in this context.

There is this complete and utter disregard of Lydia’s feelings/needs/happiness. Stiles wants Lydia so Lydia should want Stiles. No. 

In my opinion, Lydia never showed any sort of romantic interest in Stiles and I see no chemistry between them. You could argue with me, tell me to remember that time when they kissed, but let’s face it: LYDIA KNEW STILES LIKED HER and if she liked him back, she could have done something about it a long time ago, but she didn’t, not yet. Either it’s bait, she’s not interested or God knows what Jeff wants to do.

I’m not going to fight you, Stiles/Lydia could ultimately be endgame, but from my perspective, I’d say not to fool yourself. If it would be endgame, that’s not going to happen because Lydia loves Stiles, but rather because the fans want Lydia to love Stiles and seeing as Stiles/Lydia is the bigger fandom, as I’ve previously stated, the writers, in case it’s needed, will do what is necessary to stay on track.

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Lastly, what bothers me about the fandom’s (a part of it) relationship with Stiles and Stiles/Lydia is that not only they don’t accept the problematic aspects of this character and this relationship, but they worship and would “die defending” Stiles even when it’s obvious they’re wrong. I would probably be less annoyed with Stiles if he wasn’t put on a such high pedestal.  

No one is telling you not to ship it, but you have to admit its fault when you’re called out on it and/or when you go out of your way to tag your posts in the wrong tags.

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DISCLAIMER: This is purely my opinion.