this is meant to be kung fu panda

Croix: You knew I deserved the Shiny Rod! You always knew! But when Woodward said otherwise, what did you do? What did you do? NOTHING!

Ursula: You were not meant to wield the Shiny Rod! That was not my fault!

Croix: Not your fault? Who filled my head with dreams? Who drove me to train until my bones cracked? Who denied me MY DESTINY?!

Ursula: It was never my decision to make!

anonymous asked:

How come Clockwork is so popular? This may sound like heresy, but I can't get excited about him. He has no friends. He has no backstory. He knows too much about time, so any issue in any plot would raise the question, "Why doesn't Clockwork go back in time and fix it?" I like characters who are weak and foolish, who have room for growth, who don't have powers comparable to those of deities (or, if they do, can't control their powers).

I can’t answer this perfectly since I don’t know every person’s feelings about him, but I can explain why I think he’s a good character.

Clockwork isn’t meant to be a character who is weak or who needs to develop, and that’s fine. There are different kinds of characters who serve different purposes. Main characters should always be the type that need to grow. It makes them more relatable. Clockwork isn’t that type of character, though. He’s more like Mufasa from the Lion King, the ghosts of Christmas from A Christmas Carol, Yuko from ×××HOLiC, or the lion turtle in Avatar: The Last Airbender, Oogway from Kung Fu Panda, or Albus Dumbledore from Harry Potter.

Characters like this aren’t written to be the ones who go through an arc. Usually, they’ve lived long lives already (or they could be immortal) and they have wisdom and experience that helps the protagonist through their journeys. They can often embody an idea rather than being intended as a flawed person. Clockwork, for example, can embody the ideas of responsibility and second chances.

The writing is also clever because it does humanize him somewhat. He has a sense of humor, an attitude toward his superiors, and the knowledge to know when to mess with time and when not to.

The reason Clockwork can’t fix every problem in the show is made clear in Masters of All Time. Messing with time just isn’t that simple, and he’s not allowed to be biased and help each individual with their problems. All he can do is guide things along the best course.

Clockwork’s popularity isn’t about people relating to him, but more people admiring him and his writing. There’s a lot that’s thought through with him. His character’s role was set from the beginning, but it wasn’t always clear to the audience. He’s interesting in the way that people want to figure him out and understand his way of thinking, even though his knowledge makes that pretty much impossible.

That doesn’t mean you have to like him, of course. While I do really like him, my favorite characters are usually the ones I relate to, so I agree with you and gravitate towards more flawed ones. That’s not what appeals to everyone, though, and it’s important to realize that’s okay. People can like different kinds of characters. Some like outrageous comedy characters, others like wise mentor types, others like deliciously evil villains, and some like the characters who feel the most real and organic.

Diversity is what keeps a cast interesting.

For more details about Clockwork specifically, I’ve talked about him in depth here. The quickest answer to your question, though, is that things would actually get boring if every character was weak and foolish. We wouldn’t have our Charles Xaviers, our Maleficents and Ursulas, or our Mary Poppinses. Other types add different dynamics to work off of, and that dynamic can be what draws you to a character.

A Warrior of Black and White

An explanation of why I believe Lord Shen wasn’t defeated by Po and neither was he meant to.

[Spoilers for Kung Fu Panda 2 below]

After watching Kung Fu Panda 3 (and loving it), I went back to rewatch parts of my favorite second part. One moment in particular always struck me as intense - the one where Shen closes his eyes just before his death. Has he found inner peace in that last moment, I wondered. We don’t know for sure, but I don’t think so. I think he might have been relieved that his demise would come from an accident (one of his own making, too) and not from the prophesied “warrior of black and white”. He accepted it as the closest he could get to victory - going down, but not as he was foretold.

All this time he expected a panda to be the one who defeats him, but I think it was never the meaning of the prophecy. 

I think the warrior of black and white was Shen himself.

First of all, just like the pandas, he fits visually (add red and you got it). Secondly, and more importantly, unlike Po, Shen deals in extremes - everyone is either for or against him. Remember how easily he turned on Wolf Boss? Shen has a very black and white view of the world.

Thirdly, let’s look at the prophecy:

“…if Shen continued down this dark path, he would be defeated by a warrior of black and white.”

If he continued. That is a very important point. He didn’t have to continue his research of weaponizing fireworks. He could have stopped it then and there. But because he deals in black and white he did not consider his own course of action could possibly be the problem. He believed someone was out to get him, because everyone is either an ally or an enemy, there is no middle ground.

It was his black and white outlook that was his doom. If he continued making judgements based on that, if he failed to see how it was a dangerous way of thinking both to him and others, then he would be defeated. By himself.

And that’s what happened. Po may have taken down his ships, destroyed his canons, but who made the canon fall on Shen - the peacock himself. Why? Because even when everything was lost and Po told him he held no grudge, and Shen could have turned a new leaf, instead he pressed on.

And so he was killed and thus ultimately defeated through no will other than his own. I find it deeply poetic that what kills him is the very thing he was pursuing. Sadly, I don’t think he ever understood this. He is indeed a very tragic villain.

Before Shen’s turning point, where he went out to command a genocide of the pandas, we have really little idea of whether he was really that bad a guy. His parents seemed to care for his well-being, he was rich, he was busy inventing weapons. Maybe they were for defense. Most likely they were an attempt to make his firework-inventing elders proud. One way or another, Shen’s character was tested by the prophecy. And thus the warrior of black and white came to be. Not Po. But Shen himself.

And so Kung Fu Panda 2 remains my favorite from the three currently existing movies. And one of my all time favorite movies in general. 

It shows us a hero, who has all the reasons to be filled with prejudice, to believe himself the ultimate judge, the chose one, one who knows best - and yet he is a flexible forgiving guy, who knows how to move on and let go of things. And the villain is his exact opposite - someone whose judgements were extreme and who could not let go or move on, focusing on one path until it consumed him. At any moment Shen could have stopped what he was doing and saved himself from defeat, but he couldn’t see it.

Shen’s final exchange with Po is very powerful to me. It’s what makes them different, it’s what gives one strength and dooms the other to failure. 

The moral of this story is: don’t be inflexible warriors of black and white, kids, or you might get yourself killed. But if you do go out the same way Shen did, maybe at least the fireworks will create your image in the sky:

P.S. Of course the prophecy could also mean Po, cause he is a balanced dude, thus black and white, but hey, I like my theory. XD

anonymous asked:

Listen, i'm fat myself and the exaggeration of the panda village is because they're pandas? Thats who and what they are they're lazy and fat and eat a lot and its not being fatphobic to accentuate that characterization when its relevant to the plot also jack black (po) is fat himself? And his character usually makes the fatphobic jokes in a self deprecating manner? Sometimes yall reach tooo much

Originally posted by yourreactiongifs

Really?

So by your same logic the pig characters on Sing have nothing to do with fatness?
They are a characterization. Pandas or pigs, they are animals with human features meant to describe human things and situations. A symbolism of fatness.

Yes, Jack Black or Gabriel Iglesias being fat can reclaim fatness on their comedy. That is not mutually exclusive with perpetuating fat stereotypes. Which they do. 

Kung Fu Panda has no underlying positive message for fat people. Po is a walking fat stereotype. He suddenly becomes amazing in a deus ex machina plot twist

He didn’t work for it, he never had it before. He just suddenly started having a super power that is solely based on his weight, using his fatness as attacks and techniques (another old fat trope of fat characters in media and video games that we talked about before)
Could this be meant as a symbolism of coming to terms with being fat so no one can hurt you for it? If that was the intention, it wasn’t clear, nor it is mentioned. 
There is no positive message. Just “if you are fat you are all these stereotypes, you are a walking joke, and maybe one day you’ll wake up being a super Kung Fu master, but if that doesn’t happen… well, sucks to be you.”

The Panda village is not a depiction of pandas. It is a symbolism of fat humans through the behavior of pandas that are equated to those of fat humans. And obviously their main theme and common feature is fatness. 

Before accusing us of outreaching just because we dared to speak up against something you like, I would recommend you to start analyzing the things you ship a little better. Because you are clearly under reaching. 

We are not here to cater to any show or any fandom. We are here to call out fatphobia wherever it is. 

- mod Guillermo

“Am I the son of a panda, the son of a goose, a student, a teacher?. It turns out, I’m all of them.

I AM THE DRAGON WARRIOR.”

Behold of the eye of the Dragon Warrior, What do you think Pandom? I was inspired so I wanted to make a digital art of our dumpling boy in his awesome face of being master of Chin and being the Warrior he is meant to be.

I hope you guys like it. love it to both and remember.

“Kung Fu Panda 3 FOREVER!!”

anonymous asked:

I enjoyed KFP3 but it's hard to believe this opus won't be the last one, as I had a strong feeling that everything seemed to have come full circle. I can't really imagine any other plot progression or character development.

We understand that you feel that way, but we strongly feel that DreamWorks will want to keep going for the six films they originally planned for the franchise. It’s not only important for keeping their business afloat (especially now that they’ve established themselves well in the Chinese movie market), but there are actually good possibilities for keeping the plot going.

Here’s an excerpt from the Q&A of the KFP3 panel at View Conference this past year, where director Alessandro Carloni shares some thoughts on the topic of the franchise’s story:

(Note: This is translated from Italian by Google Translate, so be mindful of the language differences.)

What is the reason that drives a study to make a sequel? You had no ideas developed in the previous films, and you wanted to expand?

I think the difference is not the plot, but the presence of good characters. I worked on the first Kung Fu Panda, and I participated in the creation of Po, a character who breaks a little ‘classical schemes of comedy. In a comedy usually they are created of “types” such as the bully in which the protagonist has a relationship of tension which then elicits funny situations. Instead Po is unique and special: the only characteristic that defines it is his immense love for kung fu, and he is so sweet and cute that the public ultimately fell in love with him, and not the story itself. So no matter if we do Po goes into space or going to the post office, the public is still fond of him as if he were a friend. My work in the third sequel in a sense it was just protecting Po, because many artists proposed ideas that would have created a beautiful plot, but at the same time would have completely distorted his personality.

Have you always imagined Kung Fu Panda as a trilogy?

No, we did not have in mind to do a trilogy. As I said, Kung Fu Panda is very much based on the Po, people are interested in seeing him, so the question we ask is not so much “where we could bring the story?” But “What would be nice to do with this character?”. It is a different approach from what we use, for example, to [How to] Train Your Dragon. That is a more epic story that has a project at the base and is going in a certain direction. The third chapter of Kung Fu Panda actually originated in a somewhat 'strange.  In the second film, we insisted on the disappearance of the panda Po, and that was the last remaining example.  Not wanting to create panic in the end we put that scene in which one sees that in reality his peers are still alive.  The fact we had to reassure the public, but then it became an interesting starting point for the next plot of the episode.

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Carloni not only confirms here that the franchise isn’t meant to be a trilogy, but he also makes the good point that it isn’t so much the story itself that’s driving the franchise, but the character Po. This is Po’s journey that we’re experiencing when we watch the films, and although the ending of KFP3 seems to be the end of that journey, it’s really just the beginning of another one.

This of course doesn’t mean that there actually will be a feature film with Po going to space, if you got the point of that example. I think we can safely say after seeing this latest sequel that DreamWorks won’t be lazy or careless with this franchise in its storytelling.

We’re fans of the franchise, so we’ll of course always support the idea of there being more films, but hopefully we made our point without sounding too biased. We believe we will (and are very much looking forward to) see more of Po on the big-screen in the future.

anonymous asked:

*squeals* They were playing a free showing of HTTYD 2 at a theater nearby!!!! I have come to the conclusion that anyone who says this is a kid's franchise doesn't understand the series. :D

This is so indeed not a children’s franchise, and Dean DeBlois has himself said that he has never set out to write “kid’s material.” His goal is to make good movies that audiences will enjoy - audiences that are not just children! These are meant to be just as good, satisfying, fulfilling, and enjoyable to adults!

And even something is designed for kids, it doesn’t make it bad, and it doesn’t mean we should be ashamed for enjoying it.

That’s really exciting to hear about the free showing of HTTYD 2 happening in a theatre nearby. For people who have a Cinemark nearby, let it be known that on August 20, they are going to have a FREE MOVIE DAY full of DreamWorks films - including Kung Fu Panda 3 and How to Train Your Dragon 2!