I didn't care for the twilight movies but I did enjoy the books. The bruises Edward left on her was a accident because he a VAMPIRE. He's STRONG. After that he refused to make love to her until she was changed but weeks later they ended up doing it again anyway. When twilight was super popular, I always heard that the reason women loved it was because there aren't a lot of gentlemen left in this world like Edward - despite leaving her - but waiting for marriage to sleep together etc etc etc.
Look, I think it’s ok to enjoy Twilight. Go for it. No problems. It’s fiction and fiction is to be enjoyed and isn’t real. So, no worries there!
But, Twilight does have a lot that’s problematic to it. I don’t want to go into it, because frankly, I’m not interested in more tumblr SJWs coming onto my page and shouting at me - I’ve had enough of that for the last 24 hrs.
Needless to say, the point of my post was that Twilight and Reylo are not the same dynamic. Period. Twilight is not enemies-to-lovers, and Reylo is not to be simply reduced to centering ONLY on the lovers aspect of its dynamic. Reylo is a PART of the SW overarching plot - not necessarily central to it. Whereas, Twilight is CENTRALIZED on the romance - that’s the whole point of Twilight.
Twilight is - frankly - also poorly written. It just is. People can enjoy it, but it’s not that deep and it’s not that compelling. At the end of the day, I personally wish there were better ways to handle this “love is dangerous, love is curious” type of perspecive that girls and women could relate to.
I, personally, think Reylo would be a really nuanced and special way to explore that idea. Rey is empowered, and Kylo is an EQUAL to her. Their dynamic has the chance of showing that “love is dangerous, love is curious” perspective - a very feminized way of looking at romance.
As we, young women, grow up, we are given cues from society that our sexuality is dangerous and somehow forbidden. I think that both Reylo and Twilight can showcase that dynamic, but that Twilight falls short of being nuanced and lacks in depth. That’s my personal take, and I think a lot of people agree.
Whereas, with Reylo, it is very nuanced, it is quite deep. The masterful use of subtext and tropes, the subversion of many of those tropes (for which Twilight falls flat - the tropes are very much adhered to in ways that sometimes reduce the female protagonist), and the focus of the plot NOT being central to a romance per se, all makes this dynamic more progressive. That was my point.
This is about arguing against this view that Reylo is somehow this regressive and boring take on female sexuality.
It is, in fact, NOT regressive, but empowering. It is, in fact, NOT boring, but will end up being rather nuanced and fresh in the world of fantasy, of fiction, and just media in general.
JJ has already done a FANTASTIC job with TFA. That fight scene between Rey and Kylo Ren was one of the most moving ways to show the strength and FIRE of female sexuality - it is a force to be reckoned with, to be embraced, to EMPOWER women. That we need not be afraid of our femininity, nor be afraid to incorporate the masculine in our lives as we see fit.
I am sure someone on tumblr will find a way to take out of context what I’ve said above. But, I hope at least some people understand where I’m coming from.
I’m not trying to say you can’t or shouldn’t like Twilight. That’s fine! Just be willing to accept that dialogue needs to be had about some of the problematic aspects of it.
And I’m sure there can be dialogue in the same vein with Reylo. I just think it’s a much more progressive and nuanced portrayal of female sexuality than we have seen in a long time. Another example might be Buffy the Vampire Slayer. I’m sure there are others out there, but I’m pretty tired of tumblr at this point.
I want to have these conversations, but people are really focused on winning arguments over sharing ideas. I ask that those who respond to this come at it from a perspective of conversation. I’m not interested in “winning” for the sake of winning an argument.