these people are go getters!

*~Venus Signs~*

Venus in Aries: Men with this placement are attracted to feisty, sassy, passionate women. They appeal to women by showing their boldness. Secretly, they want a woman to get on top and ride them! Women with Venus in Aries like to dominate a man, express sass, and they are full of va va voom as lovers! She gets herself in trouble as she sometimes speaks with a sharp tongue. She’ll just as easily knock someone down with her attitude, as she’ll stick up for herself without inhibition! Aphrodite carries a flaming torch thru unexplored lands, leading others behind her. Marching bravely, sometimes acting carelessly, she learns lessons the hard way as she assumes she knows what other people will say or how scenarios turn out. She doesn’t often look before she leaps, the vitality within her doesn’t have time to wait and think things thru; this could actually be a virtue in the sense that she can quickly respond to crisis. Acting on impulse propels her to be a go-getter; truth is, we need impulsive people just as much as we value cautious people. The zest in her soul drives her to persist, there’s hardly any joys she will have missed! Her adventurous spirit always finds something to do, in an instant, she rises anew.

Venus in Taurus: Men with this placement value commitment and stability in relationships. Either their lover is entirely committed to them or they don’t want a relationship at all. They savor comfort food and enjoy playing music. Their patience allows her to understand what’s going on before acting. Women with Venus in Taurus are very charming and have the ability to get along with many people because they have a pleasant disposition (unless other items in their chart indicate chaos). People with Venus in Taurus often indulge in sweets! Gee I wonder who raided the cookie jar? ;) Aphrodite basks in the sunlight, surrounded by the tenderness of newly sprouted daisies and newborn animals. Squirrels scurry up a budding tree, lizards saunter at her toes… She picks a fresh pair off the branch, playing a flute as the wind blows… Spring chicks chirp as she stops to smell the roses.

Venus in Gemini: Men with this will try to appeal to women by learning a variety of subjects, they know how to chat a woman into bed ;). They value women with intelligence. Venus in Gemini charms people on by being adaptable. Gaining knowledge is one of the greatest pleasures, as they can use their varied interests to appeal to many different love prospects. Their fickle nature is curious about many types of people that they don’t always know what they want. They can date around with a lighthearted attitude, appreciating people of various walks of life, cohorts, styles, and skillsets. A pleasing voice aids them in their talent of persuasion. Women with a Gemini Venus are curious to get with a variety of men (or women). The duality of Gemini may be inclined to attraction of more than one gender; or even power play, alternating between D/s roles. Kinks, toys, sex positions, and different kinds of sex are treated with an open mind, experimentation is playful! Venus in Gemini is a jester in love, sometimes they treat it like a game and don’t realize they’ve led someone on. They’d rather not be pinned down as they’re a natural flirt. Their intellect tends to be scattered, learning bits of many subjects without mastering any. They struggle with commitment in love or projects, unless other planets indicate otherwise. For the most part, they live to experience all that life has to offer, getting a taste of many flavors of romance, their sex life, food, and various art movements.

Venus in Cancer: The way to their heart is thru a home cooked meal. Their self-esteem is highest when they have a lifestyle that allows them to flow in their rhythms, they are likely not the type who thrive under pressure or like to be challenged, they’d rather experience security where they can allow their inner child to be expressed. Men with a Cancer Venus are attracted to nurturing women who are motherly. They may subconsciously seek women who resemble their mother, or women who heal their mommy issues. Women with Venus in Cancer express their femininity by intuiting how to appeal to others, they aren’t loud and proud with their female expression, more timid and imaginative. If she has honored the divine feminine, by caring for her body the way that feels right to her, she will shimmer with feminine mystique, pulling in men with her tides of alluring womanhood. Aphrodite dives in the dark creepy depths of the sea, unlocking secrets from a treasure chest buried under sand made of crushed up seashells that were formed thousands of years ago. A peek into the past, she yearns to feel the entire ocean in her heart, to swim in memories so vast… She carries an ocean jasper with her, to hold onto a lost love, she’ll never forget. She admires pearls with iridescence, hoping someone will cherish her essence.

Venus in Leo: Women with this can be bold and expressive, excited to pursue creative projects and they experience physical pleasure with vigor. Compliments make her swoon, she’s a well-groomed babe applying makeup oh so artfully. She is so bright and passionate, she can commit (as Leo is a fixed sign) but the fire of spontaneity can also enjoy flirting with someone just one time to validate herself as a bombshell. Men with Venus in Leo are attracted to confident women who are glamorous. They love to stroke a woman’s ego. Aphrodite dolls herself up with rosy cheeks, bright eye shadow, gold sequins contouring her dashing figure, her hairdo gains attention, and she speaks with pride from her juicy lips. She can daringly make out with someone she barely met.

Venus in Virgo: an earthly sensuality that is physically affectionate and turned off by those who brag. Discerning about how they give out their love, they know what they want in a partner and will not settle! They enjoy critiquing art and ideas. Men with a Virgo Venus respect women who value accuracy in the topics they speak of, and a woman who is willing to get down to work. They make a point to be courteous and considerate, as the Virgo archetype cares to put their best foot forward, realizing that you do need to care what others think in order to be a productive person. However, a life of nitty gritty work turns them cynical to the point of picking out the faults of others. The caution of Venus in Virgo is to become aware of one’s own negativity, learning to be more open and tolerant. These people are modest unless certain placements by the sun or Jupiter suggest otherwise. Aphrodite harvests the fruits of the earth for a feast, nourishing their loved ones with all the essential amino acids.

Venus in Libra: A soft sweet romantic who keeps an open mind, interested in others’ opinions. Libra is an ingenue, with many men drawn to her, she doesn’t want to hurt any of their feelings so she may accidentally lead them on! She can find the beauty in everyone, and she may need someone with strong Virgo in their chart to help her determine who is worth her time, and who may not have best intentions. Libra wishes to be the socialite, spending lots of time with many different kinds of friends without realizing how these friends are influencing her/his thoughts. Libra has that way of compromising discernment when it comes to the truth of a situation in order to go along with the viewpoint that is popular among their friends. A Venus in Libra girl will go along with what their man says, she probably likes to be dominated. An evolved Libra gathers a bunch of information, to seek justice and truth instead of what pleases others. Venus in Libra is very persuasive. With his/her friends, someone with Venus in Libra likes to make others feel included, their fair minded disposition brings everyone together with the goal of increasing harmony in this world.

Venus in Scorpio: This woman is daring and intense, she is not easily impressed! Her abilities of discernment and judgement protect her from getting hurt, but when they do get hurt, heartbreak stings them to the core… People with Venus in Scorpio radiate sexuality and like to have a dramatic appearance and attitude. Men with Venus in Scorpio have a dangerous appeal, they’ve explored darkness that many cannot handle and they might even be kinky. There has to be a genuine emotional connection in your relationships or else you’ll feel unfulfilled. Venus in Scorpio has a chaotic love life as they are addicted to feeling a love that shakes them to the bones! Aphrodite dangles spider webs from her fingertips, her skin is pale as she’s been plotting revenge in her cave instead of basking in the light, she brews a potion of hypnosis in her cauldron; whoever drinks it is doomed to fall madly in love with her… She likes knowing she has power over others, she doesn’t care for diplomacy unless if she’s using it to hide her suspicions…

Venus in Sagittarius: You enjoy dates where you’re exploring new territory, whether that be hiking trails, or conversing intriguing topics. You’re wild and adventurous in your love life even if you’re more cautious and sensible in other areas. Taking chances and trying new activities gives you a thrill. You’re curious about foreign cultures and other peoples’ perspectives. Men with Venus in Sagittarius desire women who are spontaneous and open minded, bonus points if she introduces him to new ideas and places. They tend to be loose with their money, as men with a Sagittarius Venus are generous to a fault, and put off by frugality. They’ll get caught up in the passion of the moment, using up too much of an item, to find themselves with none left later on. If someone with Venus in Sagittarius doesn’t have enough earth in their chart, they struggle with being unaware of consequences until the shit hits the fan. Aphrodite sings a prayer with 108 Tulsi beads, banging a gong under a pagoda, blowing a didgeridoo in the outback for dreamtime, hunting for mescalito in the Sonoran desert, trying a tribal dance on the savannah, playing a harp in the Scottish highlands with fairies…

Venus in Capricorn: You indulge in the pure physical sensation of sex and might not get so emotional about it (unless other factors in the chart say otherwise). You value good quality food and a love prospect has to meet certain standards of yours for you to commit to them, otherwise you enjoy entirely physical connections with the opposite sex. These people are cautious about falling in love, as they are hesitant to be tender and vulnerable in relationships. Men with Capricorn Venus value women with sensibility, superb taste in food, music, clothes, and art. They are horrendously turned off by people who are unrealistic, all over the place, impulsive, or assuming. They cannot stand it when people jump to conclusions, they’re “hold your horses” type of people. Aphrodite expresses herself in a classy suit, she may have flair but it is very refined. Her polished presentation of herself sets a respectable impression. It’s not that she never goes wild, but she waits for the correct time to do so. Underneath her self-conscious tendencies is a satyr enjoying themselves in the forest. Someone with Venus in Capricorn can thoroughly savor their connection to the earth, barefoot on the gems and minerals of the dirt, every pressure point of her toes receives the energy of the stones. Playing the pan flute while gaining a tan from sunbeams, eating their grapes one by one, sauntering thru meadows and mountains, having the patience to notice the mathematical beauty of the ferns in the Fibonacci sequence…

Venus in Aquarius: You appeal to others with adorable quirkiness. You may have the capacity to be detached during sex. From a psychological perspective, someone with an Aquarius Venus might have experienced a heartbreak or trauma that caused them to be detached in how they feel about relationships. Rationalizing one’s romantic life reinforces the idea of being in control of their feelings, even though their love life is chaotic. They can categorize lust from romance from lurve from infatuation, yet their feelings could be so erratic and unstable that they fool themselves into thinking they’re more logical when love isn’t meant to be logical. There can be a neurosis in attempting to understand relationship dynamics. A tendency to be kinky will make this person want to experiment with going wild in the bedroom. Unpredictable people hold their attention! They are turned on by people who stimulate their mind. Venus in Aquarius people value the broad spectrum of gender and sexuality, homophobes lose major points with them. Men with an Aquarius Venus are drawn to chatty women who flaunt their intellect and women who aren’t afraid of strange people. Aphrodite skips up the Ethernet cable, connecting humanity if the internet connection is stable. Networking a group together, harmonizing social dynamics for a grand plan. We’re comrades till the end, brainstorming ideas, testing theories, until you unfriend. Spurts of inspiration, an outcast in cynical contemplation. Seeking reactions by acting life a freakazoid, the free spirit could care less who’s annoyed!

Venus in Pisces gives you capacity to love freely, but the caution is that you put on “rose colored glasses” figuratively when it comes to love. You may put your love interests on a pedestal, getting caught up in the fantasy. You may fall for people who seem kinder than they turn out to be, as you can get carried away with your excitement, to the point of blinding yourself to the flaws of a love interest, only to get hurt in the end. You likely need to learn to understand boundaries, and be firm in sticking to them. Seeking pleasure in escapism, may enjoy having a glass of wine or smoke a bowl to release the pressure of the world. Men with a Pisces Venus are attracted to dreamy girls who go with the flow rather than women who challenge them. They value adaptability rather than someone stubborn. Aphrodite dreams endlessly, perceiving messages from the spirit world, peering into another reality… A sea of psychedelia stares back at her, where do all the whirlwinds lead? “How do I distinguish what I truly need?” Carried away on spending for indulgence, swept away by a new romance, she is enamored by her own brain chemistry. Lost in a blur of pure feeling, in her own world, the collective consciousness is revealing.

Remember, any given planetary placement can be overruled by other factors in the chart. Most of us are contradictory people. Some of your other planets may interact with your Venus in a way that is harmonious or a clash. Feel free to ask me about it!
If you’re interested in a reading that synthesizes your Venus placement with the effects of your Mars, with the power of Pluto in your chart, along with the gifts of your Jupiter, contact me, and I am happy to write up a report about your chart!

Honest thoughts about the signs
  • Aries: ur so fun to get lit with and u will fight anyone if they try to put your bff down
  • Taurus: SUCH A RIDE OR DIE and u guys are so warm and loving
  • Gemini: You guys are so funny and ur dreamers which I love
  • Leo: "me me me me me" + super loving and protective when they genuinely care about you
  • Virgo: ur that honest friend that I can depend on for telling me if I look fat or not + u guys go out of ur way for ppl u care ab
  • Libra: ur so pretty and funny and do way too much to please everyone even if they don't deserve it
  • Scorpio: u guys are loyal to a FAULT when it comes to people (usually like only 2) that are close can run you over and you'd still be like "are we still on for lunch"
  • Sagittarius: you guys wanna know the world and you want people to be themselves
  • Capricorn: can you say GO-GETTER?? Ur literally so committed unless ur doing drugs and ur depressed bUt stiLl and u guys are silly
  • Aquarius: u guys seem heartless but it's not true it's just u guys can express love through actions also u love a select amount of ppl
  • Pisces: emooootionallll but ur rly good friends and amazing at comforting ppl :)
Zodiac Signs How Others See You

Capricorn:  You’re often seen as an irresistible force and an immovable object. People put you in charge because you’re decisive — you’re famous for having a great sense of realism. When others need a rational head in a crisis, they call on you. In personal relationships, some friends will stand in line to unload their problems on you; others avoid you because they think your outlook is too downbeat. Everyone agrees that it’s difficult to divert you from your course when you’ve set a goal. Some people feel that in order to find the real you they have to strip away layers of secrecy, but most understand that your aloofness stems from a deep sense of personal privacy.

Aquarius:  You’re often regarded as slightly eccentric — not necessarily strange, but certainly an independent character, a kind of daredevil with an unusual way of looking at things. People consider you a pathfinder, a member of the real avant-garde. They think you have a wicked sense of humor, an ability to shock and amuse at the same time. They know you’re open to new ideas, especially when these ideas are yours. People are drawn to your friendliness and enthusiasm, but they withdraw quickly when you turn acid-tongued. Sometimes, because you need so much personal freedom, you give the impression of being uncaring or distant. Those around you may also become annoyed at your stubbornness.

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Mars in Libra

Mars is traditionally considered “detriment” in Libra because Libra is ruled by Venus. People with their Mars in Libra are not necessarily go-getters and they would much rather wait for easy opportunities to come to them. A Mars in Libra possesses incredible amounts of patience and this holds true when it comes to their anger. A Libra Mars can stir up a lot of drama, be confused when confronted and go back to defaming someone. They are fair people and they always choose to avoid a conflict. They will try to prove a point and hope to meet in the middle because they don’t want to choose sides. They can also be VERY passive-aggressive. A Libra Mars is infamous for talking behind others backs. This can be seen as weakness, but don’t underestimate a Libra Mars because they can get snarky and in your face too. Believe it or not, they are highly critical people as well and don’t think they won’t call you out.

There’s no denying that Mars in Libra natives are charming at its best. They can easily charm the pants off of someone. Although they can be quite the flirts and may try to lead you on, they’re not necessarily too huge on sex. A Mars in Libra is romantic and sensual and they expect this in bed as well. They would much rather be in a relationship and make love to their significant other, but of course this doesn’t have to be mandatory. A Mars in Libra can have fun in bed if they wanted to! Ultimately, this Mars sign aims to please and they can make their sexual partner feel like the center of the universe. A Mars in Libra is rather submissive in bed. Of course, Libra represents balance and fairness and sex to a Mars in Libra needs to be balanced out. They will let themselves be dominated and pushed around once in a while, but they have a strong dislike of rude, selfish people in bed. Everything should be fair and equal to this Mars sign. 

A peacemaker at their very best, a drama queen at their very worst. Balanced and fair at their very best, and overly submissive at their worst. A Mars in Libra, more so than any Mars sign, should be careful to not show their negative qualities too much, but also to not be treated like a doormat. After all, they are the ones who maintain everything at balance in the Zodiac and when they, themselves, are off balance; everything else is off course.

Zodiac Signs on How Others See you!

Aries:  Your upbeat, magnetic personality pulls people toward you — you bring excitement into their lives. They envy your aggressiveness in meeting a challenge. Whatever the problem, you give the impression that you have an answer ready. You’re also admired for your honesty; you don’t gloss over difficulties. What people don’t like is your tendency toward bossiness and your deserved reputation for being sharp-tongued. They’re afraid to cross you in an argument because they know you can cut them to the quick. 

Taurus:  You’re thought of as a serene influence, someone to depend on, and you’re admired for your organized mind. Not many people realize that you’re sensitive and easily wounded. You are trusted as a taste maker, and your artistic and aesthetic opinion is welcomed. Because you have sound instincts about money, your financial advice is also sought. On the other hand, people resent your tendency to be dogmatic. Even if you’re right, others don’t understand why you have to be so unyielding. 

Gemini:  People like to be around you because you’re interesting and amusing. They admire you for your talent with words and sense of humor. Although you’re considered more of a cerebral type, friends trust your judgment about emotional matters. They also know you’ll jump in to help when asked. Only those closest to you know you can be moody and discouraged. When crossed you can be sarcastic, which makes some people think you’re arrogant. 

Cancer: Those in your circle think of you as a den mother/father — the one who tries to fix other people’s problems and make sure everyone is happy. They like your concern for their well-being and cherish your wise counsel. But why, even if they follow your advice, do they keep it a secret from you? Because they think you’re controlling and don’t want to be a puppet on your string. They also think you’re moody. One minute you seem to care about them, and the next you’re crabby and to be avoided at all costs. In your career, you’re viewed as someone who can quickly spot an opportunity for financial gain. 

Leo:  You have a regal quality, a way of standing out in a crowd. The unique combination of the excitement you project, your sense of style, your way of speaking, and your laugh is what draws people to you. They’re also seduced by the fact that you think big, which feeds their own fantasies of success and power. They’re attracted to your energy and enthusiasm and your take-charge attitude. They assume you’ll take a leadership position. But some people dislike what they consider your king-sized ego. They think you hog the spotlight and that you’re performing even when you’re perfectly serious and sincere; they question your sincerity. Others regard you as a showoff who merely talks a big game. And there are those who think you have the temperament of a demanding, spoiled child. 

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  • Child: Hi, I'm selling tickets for......
  • Me: *Aw. What a cute kid. Great sales approach! They're a real go-getter. The world needs more people like this. So eloquent and poised. I hope any kid I have is like this. No, they won't be able to look people in the eye because I barely can. My kid is probably never even going to know my eye color. What color are my eyes? Why are there diff- Shit! They're wrapping up.*
  • Child: ... So how many tickets?
  • Me: Twenty dollars worth.
  • Child: Great! Here you are. We'll call you if you won!
  • Me: Great! Thanks!
  • ...........
  • Me: Wtf did I just buy tickets for?
Mars in Aries

Mars is at home in fiery and Cardinal Aries. This Mars position, along with other Fire Mars signs, posses tremendous and high amounts of drive, stamina, libido and passion. Mars in Aries is the conqueror and the leader; Mars is at its strongest here. With Mars in Aries, these people have the potential to be great and powerful leaders and often they enjoy taking on leadership positions. They are highly competitive, playful and energetic! They can excel really well in sports and if they do, they accept no less of winning. They have a ton of energy and when it comes to sex, this is no exception. They have a high libido, but they don’t necessarily last too long. They yearn for a sexual partner who is both quick and rough and can basically keep up with them. They are aggressive and dominating in bed and their sex life is passionate and hot. They definitely don’t have much patience for foreplay and would much rather get straight to it. They LOVE sex and have a sexual magnetism and power to them. They’re great in bed, but only if you’re up for a “wild ride”.

Mars in Aries does not have the patience for people who beat around the bush. These people are go-getters and aggressive ones at that. Mars in Aries doesn’t have much patience at all, in fact. They have terrible, terrible tempers. They are the types to rant abusively and use every curse word in the dictionary, but this is just a quick flare up. Mars in Aries is NOT afraid to get into a physical altercation. They live for competition and in fights, they give 100% and basically fight for their lives. They are prone to experiencing anger quite often and are usually angered quite easily. When angry, they do resort to physically destroying the source of anger and everything in their path. But of course, their anger comes as quick as it goes. They aren’t the types to hold onto grudges because it’s not worth their time. They’d much rather just get rid of you in a snap.

  • Aries: You're a go-getter, you're exciting, & your confidence is attractive.
  • Taurus: You're funny, really cute, and awkwardly charming.
  • Gemini: You're hilarious, you're interesting, & you're different from other people.
  • Cancer: You're sweet, you're caring, & always know what to say.
  • Leo: You're magnetic, confident, & everyone wants a part of you.
  • Virgo: You're intelligent, sassy, and independent.
  • Libra: You have a nice booty, you're cute as heck, and you're naturally charming.
  • Scorpio: You're sexy, you're mysterious, and you're absolutely fascinating.
  • Sagittarius: You're wild, you're fun, and you're a really deep person.
  • Capricorn: You're reliable, you're stable, and you're nurturing.
  • Aquarius: You're intelligent, you're attractive, and you're different.
  • Pisces: You're adorable, you have a kind heart, and you're fun to talk to.
Iris as possible co-ruler for Libra

Iris Minor planet number 7 (already some synchronicities) is named after Iris, the messenger goddess of the rainbow, utilized by the gods for her natural ease in traversing through both air and water.

While many are comfortable leaving Libra with Venus, which I acknowledge and accept. I believe every sign deserves it’s own unique ruler, because the energies are all unique and independent, and while Venus may co-rule, there is definitely a different energy at work if you observe. Similarly to Scorpio, whose nature isn’t purely Mars, or Aquarius who’s not just Saturnian.

Iris is a Hellenic and Roman Messenger deity, and a personal handmaiden to the Queen of Heaven. Iris has dominion over the sphere of balance, unity, harmony, and justice. She was birthed from Thaumus a deity of the wonders of the sea, and Electra the cloud nymph. She was born of both sea and sky similarly to the birth of both Aphrodite and Venus.  How Iris differs in her function from Hermes or Mercury is the absence of a trickster element, and her intimate connection to the court of Olympus, while Hermes/Mercury is a little detached, her dealings are a little more personal and one on one. For instance, she is one of the only deities who can go to the underworld, as one of her functions, she carries a jug, and fills it up with the water from the river styx, the water is used in oaths in Olympian court, and those who break their oaths, or lie, are stricken speechless for many years, and ambrosia is withheld, this only happens when there is discord in Olympus. She being the rainbow, is a link between mortals and divinity, and thus the lower and higher self, and connection in general. With this also comes the ability to shapeshift in order to properly relay messages, she becomes something that is pleasing and comforting to the mortals she has to speak with. Other than her role as a messenger deity, she is the handmaiden of Juno or Hera, queen goddesses deeply associated with matrimony. In mythology Iris is seen as the consort of Zephyrus of the eastern wind, and in many instances also married to Morpheus god of Dreams. With Zephyrus she even bore a winged god of desire, and longing, Pothos. In one myth Iris visits the cave of sleep and dreams where all the deities of rest lie, her radiance and her like light the dawn, and her robe iridescent like the rainbow, she then requested Morpheus send a message to Ceyx wife for Halcyone who perished, and Morpheus took on the form of Halycone and told Ceyx he had passed.I think Iris, her adaptability, creativity and nature deeply connects to the core values of Libra more so than any other celestial body I have studied.

Many Libras are in politics, and they appeal to the masses through Ethos and Logos, communicating with water and air, very similarly to Libra. Iris is the connection from hi and low, and you find Libras in ambassador positions, linking together hi and low, and striking a balance like a rainbow after the storm. Colorful, thoughts, and dreamy romantic surrealism, realized with the connection to morpheus, as Libra can be more in the clouds than pisces, and rightly so, her mother was a cloud nymph. The connection to law, and order, and justice through the waters of the river, also combining, rationality, and the human need to see action when there is injustice. One of the symbols of Iris, similarly to Hermes is the Caduceus, the snakes entwined on a staff, a symbol of healing, healing of the mind when connected with air and water, many Libras are considered counselors in many circles and rightly have a connection to the symbol.

Discovered on august 13th 1847,The discovery chart for Iris holds many fruits of truth in regards to Libra. Since you needed night time to properly see the stars during the 1800s, I will be using the time 1:00 am. This puts the Ascendant in Cancer, conjunct Jupiter. This creates a deep philosophical nature, that is also nurturing and accepting of people regardless of their walks of life. Iris presents herself in a way that is loving, and big hearted, though she is still connected to her roots. The moon, the ruler of the first house is in the fourth in Virgo, this brings the need to help and the intellectualized practical side of Libra front and center, as well as the need for order, balance and the status quo. Hard opposite the Ascendant is Juno, the marriage asteroid and Queen of Iris, reflecting the need for partnership and connection.The second house is also housing cancer the crab, Libra energy and their values are dramatically affected by their upbringing, and not to forget the curious sentimentality they can display in regards to taste and aesthetics of a halcyon age. In the third house in Leo we have the sun, and Mercury retrograde conjunct, with this the communications are exaggerated and lively, eager and bright. Very similarly to the warmth libra communicates with, the ego is about communication, knowledge and rationality, though it is tempered by the tempered creative waves of Leo and it’s creativity. Mercury is also sextile Venus, this creates the harmonious, and peaceful communications we often see with Libra as well as the mind being enamored with things that can be considered beautiful. Uranus is trine Sun, thus this creates an ego that revolves around community, and human interaction and humanitarian endeavors. It is also trine pluto, bringing in a commitment, and emotional depth (an sexual side) that Libra can display. The fourth house, is housing Virgo. In the fourth we have the moon, and Venus. This shows that the core inner world, and home of this energy is nurturing and peace loving in it’s nature, but it is not illogical. It is simultaneously practical and emotional, though can be extremely wild and disarrayed if thrown out of whack. Moon is sextile Jupiter showing the brightness, and need for happy emotions, and ability to obtain them. While also being hard opposite Saturn, showing that emotional satisfaction needs to be worked for in the end. We also have Venus in this house, in its second dignity of Libra. Venus is hard trine Iris thus making a connection between the two energies, as they are similarly expressed. The home is beautiful, and material items are enjoyed. Venus is conjunct the NN in the fifth, showing Irises need to create, create, date, have fun and enjoy herself, it’s hard for her considering her SN is in the eleventh, and taking care of others is instinctual, she needs to learn who she is, and self actualize. We see that Libra is in the fifth, with the NN. Which fits nicely seeing as how she wed an sky deity. Fifth house things need to be developed in Iris, and she needs to practice the expression of the ego in fun, healthy ways, the sun(ego) falls in libra and i think this parallels beautifully. The sixth house, in scorpio, and the ruler of the sixth is in the eleventh. Iris works for the community, and for the connections that humans make for a better future. She does this in a quiet way, and a alchemical way down to the small bits. The seventh house, Libras house has capricorn in it, and this shines a light down on Libras constant struggle of always feeling like they can never find the right partner or that love is restricted from them at times, as it is, it must be cultivated and harvested, tested and analyzed in order to get the ok. Saturn, the ruler, is in the tenth in pisces, showing the minor planets ability to attract emotional but seemingly stoic people there way, leaders, and go getters are in their seventh, but with a spiritual emotional twist, similarly, she is the consort to a sleep deity. She has her eighth also in capricorn, and she allows herself to face her fears in a career like, or public setting, her changes are broadcasted, and may be aided by people in charge, a common archetype grafted upon capricorn, is in fact Juno and Hera. In her ninth we have Aquarius, showing her open philosophy and her travels taking her to the strangest places. In the tenth we have pisces, the MC is conjunct Neptune and Saturn showing she is emotional and professionally adept, she is sought for her wisdom, and her creativity. The eleventh is loaded, the community is filled with different characters, who force iris to change, just like how Libras connection to the seventh forces them to learn about differences and others. Uranus pluto and Mars are in the eleventh in Aries. And lastly, taurus is in the twelfth where she tries to hide the love of luxury, and she may not know her own values.

In astrology, Iris is associated with right brain communication and creativity as well as connection and truth amongst man.

Please feel free to share your opinion, and try it out in your own charts!! I feel very confident about this one :) thank you for your time, have a wonderful day/night.

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The Descendant

In my article on the Ascendant or Rising sign, I explained how the cusp of the first house is our identity, the way we perceive the world, the way we act in it. The cusp of the seventh house, opposite our Ascendant, is the Descendant. While the Rising sign is coming up over the horizon at the moment of your Birth, the Descendant is falling down into the shadows. The first house is our self and the seventh house is other people. We identify with the sign of our Ascendant, we form our sense of self around its energy. It is the path through we which we find ourselves. The Descendant is the path that lies between us and the other. It marks the seventh house, Libra’s house. Libra is the sign of relationships. The balance beam. Libra is the first of the collective signs and refers to the one-on-one relationship in particular. Librans find themselves through relationships, their sense of self is better defined in relation to some other. This is contrast to Aries, its sister sign, ruling over the first house and the Ascendant. Aries is the self, the baby who feels as if the world revolves around it. Libra is the world revolving around someone else. This is why Aries and Libra make a good match. And everyone has this dichotomy within them, particularized by the sign of the Ascendant and Descendant.

We identify with the qualities of our Rising sign. The qualities of our Descendant, the opposite qualities, we tend to project onto others. As I wrote about in my article on Pluto, we all have a shadow side. These are qualities we find undesirable, that tend to sink into our unconscious as we would like to think we aren’t like that. We may project this shadowy side onto others. The Descendant is a bit different, in that it comprises the qualities that we don’t identify with, but that aren’t necessarily “bad.” Sister signs (signs opposite one another) are two sides of the same coin. They are defined in relation to one another. So when we identify with our Ascendant, we demarcate the qualities that are opposite to it as the ones that don’t characterize us. This is a trick of the ego, however. In order to experience completion and wholeness, we project the Descendant onto others, integrating the qualities into our lives through relationships. Cancer Risings say I am the caring, nurturing, motherly one, and my partner is the structured, serious, fatherly one. They seek out these Capricorn qualities in others, to balance them out. Their partner doesn’t even have to be a Capricorn for the Cancer Rising to project this onto them. The Descendant describes the type of partner we desire, the type of person we think will complete us. The attractive opposite, the yin to our yang.

The planets in the seventh house or conjunct the Descendant will also tend to be projected onto others. Someone with the Sun on the Descendant will find their sense of Selfhood through another. Venus on the Descendant finds beauty in another. Mars on the Descendant may want a take charge partner, projecting their own drive onto them. Uranus on the Descendant wants a unique, original, wacky partner. The planets in the seventh house can also describe the nature of our love life. Relationships are very transformative for those with Pluto in the seventh house. They may be elusive, spiritual, or characterized by a victim-savior dynamic for those with Neptune in the seventh. The planets and sign of the Descendant are the energies inside of ourselves that only really come into play when there’s someone else there to bring them out. People with heavy seventh house or Libra influences need other people in their lives to help shape them.

The point I want to drive home is that our astrological charts are complete and whole in themselves. Our souls are whole and divine. The Descendant is an illusion of the ego, it is the way we split ourselves in half in order to find a sense of self, of identification (the Ascendant). This is the nature of duality. We are social creatures and we experience ourselves through our various interactions with others. But the Descendant is not necessarily the sign we don’t have within ourselves, that we must find in others. It is the part of ourselves we don’t identify with as easily. Our shadow isn’t just the undesirable qualities we don’t want to be associated with. It’s also the positive qualities we don’t feel worthy of, that we hand over to others. We may think that we’re average looking, and that our loved one is gorgeous, or that we aren’t book-smart but our spouse is very well learned. This is identification and projection, this is boxing ourselves in and limiting ourselves, while allowing our partner to be on a pedestal while we look up at them. The Descendant seems so far away from us, so unreachable. But it is in our chart, and to be whole within ourselves, we must integrate it in our personalities. Otherwise, we will always feel half of a whole, won’t be content without a significant other. Every planet in the solar system is part of our psyche, including the ones in the seventh house. If we don’t own their energy, we become dependent on other people to feel as if we are living a full life.

So explore the sign opposite your Ascendant. Speaking from personal experience, I am Libra Rising and have taken on the role of the amiable, Venusian peace keeper in my life. I’ve oftentimes sought out Arian partners to balance me out, as I am Aries Descendant. My Venus and Sun are both in the seventh house and I have tended to only feel alive when in a relationship, and have idealized my partners. This in itself is not destructive, but when I make myself feel lesser, or when I stop shining when I’m on my own, I am cutting off an important part of myself. My Mercury and Venus are both in Aries and it is silly for me to only identify with my Libran side, while letting other people be the fire-y go-getters. I have this energy inside me, too. If anything, the sign and planets of our Descendant are pieces of ourselves that are very important parts of us, as they make us whole. We spend our lives seeking them in other people, thinking we need someone else to complete us. But this doesn’t have to be the case. A relationship between two individuals that are full and whole within themselves - this is what we should strive for. And we can get there by embodying our Descendant and the planets in our seventh house.

anonymous asked:

Could you put a list of what quality's does a player determines if he is a prospit or derse dreamer's ?

That’s still debated. We have been unable to find out what makes people sleep where. We could try looking over our bases.

Prospit Dreamers and Optimistic, Derse Dreamers are Pessimistic. This makes sense considering that being on Prospit is like being in a fairy tale, and being on Derse is a gritty noir nightmare. Especially since one has Skaia and the other one has Eldrich Death Squiddles in the sky. But this has been disproven. Some a lot of native Sessions have noted depressed and hopeless people on Prospit, while a lot of go-getters have been on Derse. This categorization is 100% incidental.

It’s about Aspects and Active/Passive Roles. Someone suggested this a long time ago, and while I cannot pick it out, I fail to believe it. The game has no other categorization types like this anywhere else. Such an oddly scientific and specific classification seems absurd.

There’s no way to find it out. It’s all bullshit. This is very likely.

Prospit Dreamers have Clean Beds, Derse Dreamers have Messy Beds. This is the single consistency we found, and so it’s the only one I believe in, aside from the above.

anonymous asked:

Hi! I hope this doesn't bother you. Could you tell me more info about each house? Like everything you know about each one? This will mean a lot! Really... Can't thank you enough. Have a nice day😊 Thank you.

No bother at all! I think you’re not the only one who would like a master post of information on the houses, thank you for asking! So far, Pottermore has very limited information once you’re actually sorted - most of the information gleaned comes from the Ilvermorny History she wrote- as the Houses took on a lot of the personalty of the founders.

Horned Serpent - Isolt Sayre -
Represents the mind, favours scholars. The most wise and magical of the house beasts. We know the most about Isolt, thus the most about this house. She was intelligent, her magical learning gleaned from home schooling using limited access to a wand. Her cleverness also allowed her to evade her talented aunt for many years and with the help of her kinship to a real Horned Serpent, even became a maker of wands. Members of this house thirst for knowledge and skill, as well as better understanding of the world around them. They are idea makers, and problem solvers. They excel most with complex magics and long rituals. If they had an element, I think it would be Water -either the calm concentration of a smooth lake, or the overwhelming complexity of rapid river systems.

Pukwudgie - James Steward -
Represents the heart, favours healers. The most tenacious and tricky of the house beasts. James was an uncommonly compassionate and adaptable no-maj man. He was a builder and creator, having been a stone mason and designed much of Ilvermorny. Pukwudgie house is filled with grounded, responsible individuals who are reliable and looked up to even if they are an outsider. They are named after a trickster creature, and so can have that part of their nature as well. They follow their hearts, and this can be both a good and tough way to live a life - but they would argue the most rewarding. Luckily they bring responsibility to their quest for happiness. This is the house with the best sense of humour, and is most skilled with practical magic. If they had an element, I think it would be the sturdiness of Earth with resourcefulness of greenery.

Wampus - Webster Boot -
Represents the body, favours warriors. The most aggressive and feared of the house beasts. Webster was an argumentative but fiercely loyal boy, so often are members of the Wampus house. They are competitive, for Webster chose Wampus because it was fast, strong, and almost impossible to kill. He grew up to be an accomplished wizard, authoring a Charms textbook that is still used to this day. The members of this House are go-getters, people who aren’t afraid to act. They attract the warrior spirit for a reason, their loyalty and fierceness make them great leaders and instruments for taking ideas into reality. They know themselves well, and will fight for their beliefs without hesitation. They are most skilled at defensive spells, and incantations. If they had an element, it would be the simmering of coals to the raging inferno of Fire.

Thunderbird - Chadwick Boot -
Represents the soul, favours adventurers. The most powerful and impressive of the house beasts. Chadwick was an intelligent and often temperamental boy, so members of the house can also have those traits. They are impulsive adventurers, or at least crave change and the new or interesting. Chadwick grew up to be an Auror for hire, combining his love for adventure with the sense of purpose and meaning that comes from a connection with one’s soul. Thunderbird house are trailblazers, with strong opinions and inexhaustible mental energy. They loathe boredom. This house tries to never leave a place the same as when they arrived, and are most skilled with Transfiguration and inventive magic. If they had an element, it would probably be the boundless energy of Air - especially a lightning storm.

anonymous asked:

Could you please do a Madara on a date whit a shy/quiet someone headcanons? Thank you in advance(✿◠‿◠)!

D’aww, Anon using cute emojis’ to charm me, eh? I’M ALL FOR IT

I feel like my last thing to do with Madara didn’t characterize him well, so here’s my second shot. And I’m not drunk this time. That should help.

Madara Dating Shy S/O

  • Madara would plan the dates accordingly, assuming the shy person likes quiet or pensive activities. He’d pick out restaurants with minimal noise, trails far removed from large crowds, and depending on the mood offer to just stay at home (although he doesn’t consider that a date per se). He wants them to be comfortable.
  • Even though he can be quite tender towards a shy S/O, he will still be blunt in his language. This is problematic on the first date, so he tried to tone it down a bit - without much success. Madara sucks at chummy or soft language. At least he ended up making her laugh with his choice of words: “You are too quiet, speak up” became “Even a bunny can’t hear you…I’m not a bunny. Shit.”
  • In fact, he’s so embarrassed that he just kind of shuts up for that night. But then he learned to enjoy his S/O in the quiet, which happens to be their native habitat.
  • When she began to open up to him, Madara reverted back to his forward way of speaking. But after the previous mistakes, his S/O shouldn’’t mind and learn to roll with it, knowing that that’s just the way he speaks and means well.
  • Dates with Madara are very structured. If his S/O is late, he will go over strategies to maximize time management skills; he found that berating his shy S/O didn’t work, so instead opted to try and train her this way. If he is late… Nah, Madara is never late.
  • As time passes on, Madara favors those quiet, empty spaces with his S/O, whether it be a meadow or a moonlit room. He learns to connect with her in nonverbal ways, like gifts and physical touch.
  • At first Madara would be critical of their shyness. But then he’d realize that they have their own set of strengths, and that socializing with people, being bold or a go-getter, or outgoing are not prerequisites to being smart. After awhile, he prefers his shy companion.

- Admin Rhia

Originally posted by lawlu

How Others See You as a Zodiac Sign? (Must Read!)

♈  Aries:  Your upbeat, magnetic personality pulls people toward you — you bring excitement into their lives. They envy your aggressiveness in meeting a challenge. Whatever the problem, you give the impression that you have an answer ready. You’re also admired for your honesty; you don’t gloss over difficulties. What people don’t like is your tendency toward bossiness and your deserved reputation for being sharp-tongued. They’re afraid to cross you in an argument because they know you can cut them to the quick.

♉  Taurus:  You’re thought of as a serene influence, someone to depend on, and you’re admired for your organized mind. Not many people realize that you’re sensitive and easily wounded. You are trusted as a tastemaker, and your artistic and esthetic opinion is welcomed. Because you have sound instincts about money, your financial advice is also sought. On the other hand, people resent your tendency to be dogmatic. Even if you’re right, others don’t understand why you have to be so unyielding.

♊  Gemini:  People like to be around you because you’re interesting and amusing. They admire you for your talent with words and sense of humor. Although you’re considered more of a cerebral type, friends trust your judgment about emotional matters. They also know you’ll jump in to help when asked. Only those closest to you know you can be moody and discouraged. When crossed you can be sarcastic, which makes some people think you’re arrogant.

♋  Cancer: Those in your circle think of you as a den mother/father — the one who tries to fix other people’s problems and make sure everyone is happy. They like your concern for their well-being and cherish your wise counsel. But why, even if they follow your advice, do they keep it a secret from you? Because they think you’re controlling and don’t want to be a puppet on your string. They also think you’re moody. One minute you seem to care about them, and the next you’re crabby and to be avoided at all costs. In your career, you’re viewed as someone who can quickly spot an opportunity for finantial gain.

♌  Leo:  You have a regal quality, a way of standing out in a crowd. The unique combination of the excitement you project, your sense of style, your way of speaking, and your laugh is what draws people to you. They’re also seduced by the fact that you think big, which feeds their own fantasies of success and power. They’re attracted to your energy and enthusiasm and your take-charge attitude. They assume you’ll take a leadership position. But some people dislike what they consider your king-sized ego. They think you hog the spotlight and that you’re performing even when you’re perfectly serious and sincere; they question your sincerity. Others regard you as a showoff who merely talks a big game. And there are those who think you have the temperament of a demanding, spoiled child.

♍  Virgo: You’re regarded as a real go-getter. People trust you to handle any job. They think of you as a person who can analyze almost any problem in a logical way. Others come to you when they want their own actions explained to them, or are feeling confused about relationships. You are valued for your ability to set priorities and to create order out of confusion. Because you’re both discriminating and truthful, people trust your judgment on books, theater, and clothes. However, you don’t wear your heart on your sleeve, and as a result others often perceive you as haughty and cold.

♎  Libra:  People feel important when they’re with you because you always seem to understand their point of view. You are considered warm and outgoing because you know how to draw people out, and you’re thought of as someone with an unparalleled ability to deal with the public. However, because you want others’ approval, you tend to go along with what they want — and this sometimes makes you look wimpy. To some people, you also appear vain and overly concerned with your appearance.

♏  Scorpio:  It’s probably your secretiveness that makes people so interested in finding out what you think. You’re often the guru in a group, the one with uncanny hunches about the future and piercing insights into other people’s motivations. Many believe that even your humor contains the barb of truth. People are aware of your reputation for sensuality and fantasize about you as a lover. You’re frequently viewed as over-controlling and too ambitious — even power-hungry — but also as someone who can be trusted, because you never make false promises.

♐  Sagittarius: People like your sense of humor and your buoyant presence. No matter what goes wrong, you’re ready with an upbeat explanation and forecast for the future. You’re also the first to volunteer help; colleagues and friends appreciate your willingness to do favors. People like your frankness, although sometimes they think you can be too frank and that you put your foot in your mouth too often. To some you seem fickle and undependable, perhaps a bit too detached emotionally. In general, you’re viewed as an unpredictable, independent spirit.

♑  Capricorn: You’re often seen as an irresistible force and an immovable object. People put you in charge because you’re decisive — you’re famous for having a great sense of realism. When others need a rational head in a crisis, they call on you. In personal relationships, some friends will stand in line to unload their problems on you; others avoid you because they think your outlook is too downbeat. Everyone agrees that it’s difficult to divert you from your course when you’ve set a goal. Some people feel that in order to find the

real you they have to strip away layers of secrecy, but most understand that your aloofness stems from a deep sense of personal privacy.

♒  Aquarius:  You’re often regarded as slightly eccentric — not necessarily strange, but certainly an independent character, a kind of daredevil with an unusual way of looking at things. People consider you a pathfinder, a member of the real avant-garde. They think you have a wicked sense of humor, an ability to shock and amuse at the same time. They know you’re open to new ideas, especially when these ideas are yours. People are drawn to your friendliness and enthusiasm, but they withdraw quickly when you turn acid-tongued. Sometimes, because you need so much personal freedom, you give the impression of being uncaring or distant. Those around you may also become annoyed at your stubbornness.

♓  Pisces:  Everyone thinks you are his or her special friend, that they have your undivided attention. You’re thought of as solicitous and concerned. You’re also known as a sparkling social presence — witty, vivacious, and always interested in new activities. People consider you artistic and somewhat bohemian, and are impressed by your physic sensibility. They value you as a confidant but, oddly, the more people lean on you, the weaker they think you are.

Source: wtfzodiacsigns

godcreates  asked:

hi!! i have just shamelessly raided through your ruffnut/the twins' tag bcause i love them very much and i must say that your meta is all spot-on & you analyse them so very well. while i was reading, i noticed that you are writing something about the twins' intelligence ? like a FULL analysis of it. i'd really like to read that cause i wanna know ur opinion on the exact intelligence the twin possess. because i /do/ believe that they're much smarter than they appear to be. but what do u think?

Well thank you very much, friend! I’m so glad you enjoy my conversations about the twins. I absolutely am enchanted by the Thorstons and want to give them all the love and conversation they deserve. They’re a lot more than meets the eye, as the saying goes.

You’re right I mentioned comment of their intelligence and an in-progress analysis. Glad you’re interested! The reason why the FULL analysis of the Thorstons’ intelligence, planned many months ago, hadn’t been written was because I got very busy and have continued to be busy. Haha, it looks like, with your ask, I’m forced to make time for it now. Here you go. :) Over four thousand words of meta on the twins’ intelligence. XD

The Thorston twins in the HTTYD franchise sometimes look dumb. They don’t seem to know basic math, they ask questions about the most obvious things, and they seem completely inept where any other human being would be just fine. Nevertheless, while this does seem to be the outer depiction of the twins, I’ve never thought them stupid. The television shows aren’t necessarily showing two characters who are complete idiots, but two individuals who simply have a different perspective, life philosophy, and set of priorities than Hiccup, Astrid, and Fishlegs.

Here is my account on how the twins aren’t stupid, but actually quite intelligent.

Their Priorities

The twins tend to clash with Hiccup, Astrid, and Fishlegs. I don’t mean that they get in heated arguments, but that their interests and priorities collide. By and large, Hiccup, Astrid, and Fishlegs are serious go-getters, people who like to use their mind to think through a scenario, and focus on dragons with a lot of dedication, practice, and methodology. They are willing to be academic about dragons or rigorous training with them. When they enter a serious, dangerous situation, they want to focus on that with all seriousness to get it solved.

That’s just one way to look at things. The twins have an alternate perspective, one which isn’t “dumber”, but simply different with different values.

Ruffnut and Tuffnut are thrill seekers, daredevils, comedians, tricksters, people who enjoy living life in the moment. What they love about life is getting something fun out of it. Explosions and fire are fun because of the dramaticism behind it. But it’s all about having fun and seeing someone else’s surprised, shocked face. When they are in a serious situation, what the twins find important is finding levity within it. They are more interested in having a good time than they are in learning information or applying themselves to hard-trained skills. They’d rather experience the moment.

Note that Ruffnut and Tuffnut have just as much ability to learn and be intelligent. Playing tricks on people, “Loki-ing” them, actually takes a lot of intelligence because it requires outmaneuvering them. Many of their tricks, indeed are very clever and intricate plans, not something everyone would be able to pull off. And when Ruffnut and Tuffnut fly Barf and Belch in harrowing situations, they actually prove to be talented dragon riders. They might not practice like Astrid or Hiccup do, but when situations become rough, they know what to do. In fact, the Thorstons, by running around and entering dangerous situations with their dragon (ex: flying through the flame column of a Typhoomerang) actually gives them experience and practice with complicated flying techniques. They learn while they are having a good time, not by applying themselves to “boring” study.

The twins look dumb in part because they are part of the Dragon Academy, where Hiccup is in control and Astrid second in command. Fishlegs is given more responsibility than the twins, too. So all the academically-oriented, hone-your-skills-oriented individuals are the people in charge of the Dragon Academy. People who have opposite perspectives and priorities as the twins. They don’t see the value of goofing off and cracking jokes in the midst of their Dragon Academy events, and consequently will shut the twins down when they try to do their thing. They call them “dumb” or “muttonheaded.” The twins, in turn, won’t take Hiccup and Astrid seriously because of their clashing interests. Why would Ruffnut and Tuffnut care about this intricate, contrived training exercise? Boring! They’re not going to pay attention, and they’re going to do what they do best – find a way to have fun.

The result? Since Ruffnut and Tuffnut don’t care about this sort of institution, they don’t do well in it. They don’t pay attention, they screw around, they get called out by Hiccup and Astrid to “pay attention.” It doesn’t mean they’re any dumber. They just have different priorities, different learning styles, different strengths.

Their Dumb Moments

Someone might still argue they appear dumb at large, even within the context of their butting priorities. And this is a good point to make. Still, when one studies the stupid moments of Ruffnut and Tuffnut, their actions can be very reasonably explained without concluding they lack a brain. The majority of the time Ruffnut and Tuffnut appear to be doing something stupid, they are actually:

  • Not paying attention
  • Intentionally screwing with people
  • Blurting out an answer before they can think
  • Forgetting something in the moment
  • A combination of the above

I cannot go through episode by episode and explain every moment, but the point of the matter is… the moments can be explained by something other than stupidity. In fact, there are canonical incidences that show that what is going on isn’t them being dumb, but one of these things I mentioned.

The Twins Not Paying Attention

Many times, the twins are not paying attention, and thus do not know how to properly respond to Hiccup. If they’re daydreaming, they’re going to have no idea what the present conversation is about, and consequently ask what seems like dumb questions. They’re not going to understand something that seems obvious because they simply haven’t been paying attention. 

There are many, many small moments where this happens. One big, clear canonical moment of the twins not paying attention is “Zippleback Down.” At the start of the episode, Gobber teaches the youths how to undo dragon traps, and then sends them out into the woods to disengage all of them. Ruffnut and Tuffnut obviously have no interest in the lesson and don’t learn how to undo the traps. The result? They appear dumb when Tuffnut gets caught. However, nobody, apart from Hiccup, would have known how to undo the traps without Gobber’s instructions. It’s not that they’re dumb – it’s just that they weren’t paying attention when they could have learned the information.

Intentionally Screwing with People

The twins love screwing with people. It’s part of their trickster nature. There are times they intentionally play dumb in order to frustrate the others. While I suspected throughout Riders and Defenders of Berk that they were doing this intentionally, it was not until Race to the Edge that we saw very clear, undeniable proof that this was going on.

I’m talking “Bad Moon Rising.”  Note that “Night of the Hunters Part 2” also does this, but I’m going to talk about that episode later.

Now in “Bad Moon Rising,” Tuffnut appears to be acting like his usual, bizarre self. Once he becomes bitten, he seems to believe he will become a weredragon, and consequently gives his belongings away, cages himself in the dragon pens, and accepts only Chicken’s company. This seems like yet another incident of him being stupid and assuming something incredulous.

Except that’s not what’s going on in Tuffnut’s mind at all. Look at the script:

Hiccup: Okay, Fishlegs, if we do happen to come across a lycanwing, we have to have a really good plan.
Fishlegs: How about ‘don’t get bitten.’ That sounds like a good one to me.
Hiccup: Yup, me too. Okay, Lycanwing Island, here we come.
Tuffnut: Lycanwing Island? Okay, don’t tell anyone, but I didn’t actually believe it before. I was just trying to mess with their heads, you know, be quirky and eccentric by giving away my stuff and locking us in here. How could I know it would come to this? How could I know it was real?

This is a straight-out confession showing what Tuffnut likes to do. He likes to “be quirky and eccentric.” Part of his personality is an intentional playing up of being ridiculous, odd, bizarre, saying and doing strange things. Though Tuffnut is explaining how he’s acting in this current situation, doesn’t it make you reconsider how he generally acts? Doesn’t it seem to imply that a lot of the really crazy things he’s done elsewhere throughout the television series is the same sort of method of being “quirky and eccentric”?

So Tuffnut is not being stupid; he’s creating a persona. He and his sister are quirky, and that’s part of the fun they have together, but they’re not dumb.

As we see in “Bad Moon Rising,” it’s not until Fishlegs and Hiccup seem to believe that the lycanwing exists that he starts wondering if the tales could be true itself. Fishlegs and Hiccup are fooled by Tuffnut’s farce, do some research, find some evidence that the lycanwing exist, and become afraid that this all might be true. Only then does Tuffnut start to legitimately fear for himself.

Stupid? Not so much.

Blurting Out an Answer

Some of the twins’ dumbest moments come out simply because they shout and say something before they can think it through. This happens as early as the first few episodes in Riders of Berk. Consider, for instance, the train wreck trivia game in “Viking for Hire”:

Hiccup: Next question. What is the shot limit of a Hideous Zippleback? Team Snotlout.
Astrid: I don’t think they can count that high.
Ruffnut: Oh, really? Let’s find out! Barf! Belch!
Tuffnut: Looks like it’s about three. [holds up only two fingers]
Ruffnut: Told you we could count that high!
Hiccup: It’s six. You were half-right. Five points.

This moment seems to be really incriminating on their intelligence, doesn’t it?

Let’s first point out that Tuffnut isn’t taking anything seriously to start with in this game. When Astrid teases Team Snotlout for only having ten points – “And you started with ten” – Tuffnut responds, “Oh, yeah? Well, the game’s not over. Wait – what team am I on?” He’s not actually confused! Tuffnut is faking ignorance as a way of avoiding Astrid’s criticism, and simultaneously bothering Astrid in turn. He’s not acting all that seriously in this moment right here, giving a sort of over-feigned confusion about what team he’s even on. But we know he knows what team he’s on given the first half of his response and the glare in his eye, “Well, the game’s not over.” The second half of his comment isn’t even relevant to the first half of his comment, suggesting even moreso he’s just screwing around. Tuffnut knows what team he’s on and how his team is doing – he’s just pretending not to notice.

So with that context knowing the twins aren’t invested in this game, maybe the following dialogue with their pathetic counting needs to take on a nuanced interpretation.

Hiccup asks Team Snotlout the question of how many shots a Zippleback has. Ruffnut actually opens her mouth to answer before Astrid taunts, “I don’t think they can count that high.” It seems like Ruffnut knew the answer from the start, but once she got cut off by Astrid, she decided to switch how she handled Hiccup’s questions. Bored of this game and tired of Astrid’s taunts (remember me saying the twins don’t jive with Dragon Academy functions anyway?), Ruffnut decides to get back at Astrid and make things more interesting. So they ACTUALLY START SHOOTING THINGS in the middle of a trivia game!

Ruffnut’s not actually counting the shots because she had the answer in her head from the start. She’s more interested in getting back at Astrid, and indeed her words next are, “Told you we can count that high.” Tuffnut, meanwhile, is blurting out what he’s only half-mindedly thinking – the answer. He rides one head, that’s three shots. So he says “three” without thinking, and potentially to screw with the others, he holds up two fingers. It’s not that they can’t count or can’t figure out the answer.

If you’re not convinced about this so far, consider what Ruffnut says next. “Yes! We’re up to thirty!” That is not the number of points they have; they should have fifteen points because Hiccup is adding five points to ten points. But notice that Ruffnut actually picked the number thirty intentionally.

To start with, when Ruffnut says, “Yes! We’re up to thirty!” it’s in a mocking tone, she and her brother high-five, and they seem to just be ruffling everyone’s feathers about the fact they’re getting all the numbers now wrong. Next, consider what the number thirty is. It’s twice fifteen. First, she and Tuffnut answer that the Zippleback shot limit is three. That is half of the real answer, six. Then Hiccup tells them that they got the answer half right. So what does Ruffnut do? She does the opposite of halving things. She now doubles the score. Think that’s accidental? They halve their “wrong” number the first time, then double their “wrong” number the second time?

No, the twins are doing math just fine. Ruffnut not only picked the wrong number of points her team has, but she picked double the number of points to make a direct joke on Hiccup giving them the answer only “half right.”

So even the dumb answers the twins make come out to something intelligent. Tuffnut might have blurted out “three” on the fly as a simple forgetful stance (or he didn’t; you could do a fine interpretation where even “three” was intentional). It’s an easy mistake to only count one head since you only ride one. But once they get that answer wrong once, they play with it and intentionally keep on making the same mistakes with the same theme. They’re smart, not dumb.

Don’t believe me? This isn’t the only time the twins obviously do these sorts of things. And given that we learn the twins like screwing around with people, they’re apt to forget things or not pay attention, and we see that over and over in the television series, it only makes sense to interpret this moment by that lens, as well.

Now I could give more examples, talk about them being forgetful, and all sorts of things, but I think you see the point. The points where the twins seem stupid actually don’t prove that the twins are stupid. It actually sometimes shows the opposite, or, at the very least, that they have a different set of priorities than Hiccup, Fishlegs, and Astrid. Now that I have gone through and explained how their dumb moments aren’t actually that dumb of moments, I’m going to go through and show how lots of moments actually show them being very smart.

We Are Family Part 1

In “We Are Family,” Snotlout gets caught by a Changewing. Because Hiccup, Fishlegs, and Astrid are busy, Hiccup instructs the twins to save Snotlout. Snotlout is indignant at this, for he does not believe the twins will be any help getting him out of this conundrum. While this is true, it’s not because the twins are dumb.

The twins know Hiccup’s capabilities. They know Hiccup will handle the Thunderdrum and be able to return to Snotlout and the Changewing. The twins also know that handling the Changewing isn’t something fun that they would like to do – it involves directly engaging, perhaps even combatting, a dragon. Instead of endangering themselves and becoming involved in something risky, they opt to hang out until Hiccup arrives. They put themselves at minimal risk, keeping the Changewing occupied enough to not fly away or become too much of a problem, until backup can arrive and the problem can be dealt with firmly.

All those dumb explosions that didn’t help Snotlout escape? Those were never meant to get Snotlout to escape – that wasn’t the purpose of anything they were doing. This means the twins were never inept at getting Snotlout out of the trap. As the twins point out, “Everything went exactly as we planned. Keep the Changewing busy until Hiccup shows up.”

I don’t know about you, but that’s an amusing combination of lazy, smart, and scheming. They used Hiccup because they knew what he would do. They used him. They kept the Changewing occupied, they kept themselves out of risk, and they got Hiccup to do their dirty work for them. That ain’t dumb at all.

A View to a Skrill Part 2

Tuffnut has very high linguistic intelligence (both do, but Tuffnut especially). “A View to a Skrill” is just one instance in which we see that. He is capable of creating a limerick on the fly in front of very high pressure:

There once was a village called Berk
Run by a big Viking jerk
Blasting him would be thrilling
Then you’d go a-skrilling
And show us how to be Berserk

I wouldn’t call this high quality poetry, but it’s better than what Fishlegs crafts carefully. Tuffnut had to do this under fear of death, yet he manages to create a correct AABBA limerick structure, he hits about the same number of syllables per line (8, 7, 7, 6, 8), and there are even moments of decent meter, too. The first two lines have consistent meter with each other! All in all, it’s not bad, and suggests that Tuffnut has some good verbal competence. 

This isn’t the only moment that Tuffnut does something like this. There are multiple episodes from Riders of Berk to Race to the Edge where Tuffnut recognizes rhymes quickly; you can see it’s how he thinks. I mean, it’s everywhere!

 In Heather Report Part 2:

Ruffnut: Heather!
Tuffnut: Get her! That rhymes!

In Dawn of the Dragon Racers:

Tuffnut: Let’s gas ’em and blast ’em!
Ruffnut: Let’s slap ’em and pass ’em.
Tuffnut: And never even ask ’em. All three of those things rhymed!

And there were incidences in Race to the Edge, too, which I won’t pull up to quote right now. I will return to some of the things he and Ruffnut says later, but I don’t want to diverge too much currently from my discussion on this Defenders of Berk episode.

So what do we see in “A View to a Skrill”? Some serious verbal intelligence on Tuffnut’s part. Not only that, but he demonstrates his ability to trick and manipulate people. Somehow he manages to get everyone, Outcasts and Berserkers, on the island to believe that he’s benign and part of Dagur’s people. He messes up the guards’ duties in the process and even gets everyone to like and trust him in the process!

Is that entirely accident? Given what we saw Tuffnut do in “Bad Moon Rising,” no.

The Eel Effect and Total Nightmare

“Total Nightmare” is another area where we see serious verbal intelligence between the two twins. I’ve discussed above how Tuffnut has some great ability to recognize rhyme and concoct poetry on the fly. It turns out that both of the twins are even more adept than that.

It turns out that, of all the dragon riders in Hiccup’s company, the twins use some of the highest amounts of vocabulary. They usually use the vocabulary in mockery, but the point of the matter is… they know it. And they know it well.

We hear a lot of vocabulary and intelligent thought coming out of their mouths in “The Eel Effect”:

Ruffnut: How fascinating.
Tuffnut: Oh, dear sister, our hypothesis appears to be correct.
Ruffnut: The air offers a much greater resistance to the falling motion of the feather than it does to the rock.
Tuffnut: Remarkable. Shall we increase our sample size?
Ruffnut: What say you?
Tuffnut: We shall!
Ruffnut: I propose we try dropping a large yak alongside a normal-sized dragon rider.
Tuffnut: Why, sister, that is brilliant.
Ruffnut: And I’m a normal-sized dragon rider.
Tuffnut: What luck!
Ruffnut: Aha! I’m off to find a suitable yak.
Both: Science!

Now part of this moment is a joke that, when the twins are sick and disillusioned, they “become smart”, unlike their “usual selves”. The thing is… this scientific knowledge and vocabulary didn’t come from nowhere. This could only have come from what intelligence they actually have inside them. What we see is that the twins understand incredibly technical vocabulary like “sample size”, “hypothesis,” and “resistance.” Beyond that, they understand very advanced scientific concepts – concepts which, note, in Viking times, would not have been known. So what we see here is that the twins have the ability of speaking in great, precise, technical vocabulary, and mental aptitudes to comprehend advanced, specific scientific concepts.

We even see the twins demonstrate their knowledge when completely well in “Total Nightmare.” The twins demonstrate they’re not only well-educated in scientific principles, but also literary ones. While they speak somewhat ridiculously about the progression of a drama, predicting “the loss of a gallbladder,” the point of the matter is that the twins are still speaking with background knowledge to all these concepts. They talk about how tragedies work, how comedies work, how stories typically conclude. The point of the matter is… they are knowledgeable in this area, and even use some technical terms to talk about it.

The fact they’re speaking jokingly just shows the twins don’t apply what they learn in the same way Hiccup and Fishlegs do. They’re not going to gab excitedly, nerdily like Hiccup and Fishlegs do (they mock them for being nerds in “Shock and Awe,” note). But they will use their knowledge to be ridiculous together because they enjoy doing that.

I could keep on going, too. The way Tuffnut yaks in “Zippleback Down” isn’t completely idiotic, but even contains hints of deep social commentary. Then, multiple times in Race to the Edge, Tuffnut supplies a long list of synonyms for “idiot.” The other characters just use the same “muttonhead” over and over. Tuffnut has an extensive vocabulary and can suggest words like “nitwit.”

They’re still making their eccentric personas throughout all of these dialogues. They’re still applying their personal philosophy of going out and having fun. But there’s no denying there’s a lot of intelligence behind their words. I imagine that if the twins wanted to learn about dragons with Hiccup at the Dragon Academy, they could converse as intelligently about matters as Fishlegs. Just turns out, nope, different interests, different priorities.

Night of the Hunters Part 2

Yet again, Ruffnut demonstrates how well the twins can outmanipulate others. She completely fools everyone around her because they think this is just typical Ruffnut acting like typical Ruffnut. Around Viggo and the guards, she starts to break down, begging for them to save her dragon, even throwing herself onto one of the guards in the process. Nothing seems out of character for how Ruffnut acts in her day-to-day life.

But notice: this entire act was fake. She was cut off by Astrid before she stole the key, meaning that Ruffnut was already planning ahead of time how they could get out. Which means Ruffnut knew from the start she’d be able to pickpocket a key. Which means that Ruffnut has a great ability to plan ahead of time, completely act convincingly in front of people, out-manipulate them, and get what she wants.

Everyone is shocked in the prison cell because they didn’t realize Ruffnut could be that crafty. But she is, and I highly, highly doubt it’s the first time she’s pulled off a stunt like that. This moment in “Night of the Hunters” simply proves Ruffnut’s capabilities. She may act ridiculous to do something really smart. The guards will never be the wiser for what she pulled off, but Thor oh Thor was it intelligent.

Edge of Disaster Parts 1 and 2

I have already spoken about a lot of what happens between Ruffnut and Tuffnut in “Edge of Disaster”. If you wish to see my discussion of their minds in Edge of Disaster, check it out here and here.

How to Train Your Dragon 2

Tuffnut manipulates Fishlegs and Snotlout regarding the love triangle throughout the second movie. Check out the chat about it here.


This is nowhere close to everything. I haven’t even covered “Reign of Fireworms,” “The Zippleback Experience,” “Fright of Passage,” “Shock and Awe,” and “Worst in Show.” Those episodes also show their intelligence, shows how they can legitimately train dragons, how they can problem solve, how they can predict what people will do so they can implement their practical jokes. The point of the matter is, Ruffnut and Tuffnut aren’t stupid. They have never been stupid. They should never be regarded as stupid.

Sometimes they are vapid and absent-minded, sometimes they blurt without thinking, and sometimes they just don’t pay attention. There are plenty of episodes where those sorts of things happen. However, those moments don’t reduce their intelligence, and many other moments show what great abilities the twins have. They are incredibly verbally gifted, and they’ve both proven that they are great actors who can trick everyone around them. Michief makers have to know how to outmanipulate others, so why would we think that these two Loki-loving losers are anything except talented, intelligent tricksters?

It’s true Hiccup, Astrid, Fishlegs, and Snotlout refer to the twins as “muttonheads.” I believe even Stoick calls them that. But that’s their values and priorities not aligning, and it’s the characters’ incomplete perspectives of Ruffnut and Tuffnut that lead them to say that. Just because Ruffnut and Tuffnut are called “muttonheads” doesn’t mean they actually are. Not completely, anyway. They just have crafted nutty personas and pursue thrill-seeking interests.

Over and over again I see intelligence coming out of the Thorstons. Here is just some of what I’ve seen.

The twins are Loki-darned SMART.