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JON SNOW (KITN) // Season 7 Realizations

Season 6 episode 10, we experienced this glorious moment: 

Originally posted by jonsnownoshow


Anyway, now that Jon Snow is now confirmed (truthfully) half a Stark, and also declared the King in the North, I have come to an utter realization that we will most likely see in season 7 of GOT. Right now in the fandom, everyone in the North believes that Jon is still the  bastard of Ned Stark. Yet to us, Jon may potentially be something more than just the KINT, but may also be the rightful heir to the Iron Throne, more so than Dany. Whether if this comes into play later, for now Jon is considered a Snow and a hot bastard baby. :D

When Lord Wyman Manderly proclaims Jon the KINT, he says these words: “Jon Snow avenged the Red Wedding! He is the White Wolf! The King… in the North!” Jon Snow is considered the White Wolf. Jon being a Snow labels him the famous bastard of Winterfell. Now that Jon is considered the King of the North, drastic measures are going to take place. Because I’m talking entirely of the North, I’m going into book territory. So just be wary of potential spoilers for season 7. 

Whether Jon is going to do this or not is completely up to him; but usually when a Bastard wins a battle or claims as the heir of a house, the colors of the house sigil changes to be the opposite. House Stark’s sigil is currently a grey direwolf against a white background. Though now that Jon is the heir of Winterfell and the North, this means that the Sigil is custom to change. Meaning that the grey direwolf will turn into a White direwolf against a grey background. 


In the books, before Robb died, he actually named Jon his heir and not only that legitimized him so that Jon may be officially a Stark instead of a Snow. ( I cri.) This is witnessed by several people including Catelyn and a few of Robbs bannermen. Currently in the books, Jon is dead. And when he does come back, I believed he will become the KITN in a completely different way, under completely different circumstances. In the books, there is counter plot known as the “GRAND NORTHERN CONSPIRACY” in which all the houses in the North conspire to put back a Stark on the throne. Including Jon. So which houses are conspiring to put Jon on the Throne? House Mormont and House Glover. Notice in the the show how Lyanna Mormont and Lord Glover are the very two people to say “fuck Jon’s bastard title, he has Stark blood, and we’re standing right behind him until his last day.” In the books, it’s hinted that Maege Mormont (Lyanna’s mother) & Galbart Glover are headed to Howland Reed to help proclaim Jon KITN. (COINCIDENCE???)

Recently, when the season 7 episode titles and plot synopsis came out, we learn that Jon will face a revolt from some of the Northnerners. Probably due to Sansa being a dumbo  and causing chaos with LF. House Manderly, Mormont (for sure) and Glover will definitely be the houses to back up with Jon. The show hasn’t really covered the Grand Northern Conspiracy, so when Jon handles the revolt, we as the audience will see which house TRULY REMEMBERS. Honestly, fucking Umbers man. Book Umbers are legit fiercely loyal to House Stark and even try to deceive and bring down House Bolton for betraying the Starks. But in the show we get the whole fucking BOTB moment where they kill Rickon Stark/Shaggydog and Smalljon Umber being a dick and yelling “WE OWN THE NORTH!” shit. Honestly, what the fuck… #Triggered

Anyway yeah, so I wouldn’t be surprised if the remaining members of house Umber are going to be a part of that revolt against Jon in season 7. I’m also going to count in the Karstarks as well, just cause based on the leaks, we’re getting that whole thing with Alys Karstark next season. It’s too long and complicated to explain what happened in the books just cause it pretty much revolves around the Arya Stark (Jeyne Poole) plotline that Sansa took over in the show and the storyline up at the Watch… Yeah and also the Karstaks haven’t exactly forgiven the Starks (specifically Robb) for beheading Lord Rickard for committing fucking treason. Also they sided with the Boltons… -.- 

Other realizations for the KITN next season would be Gendry and the BWB to head over the wall to fight WW. Along side Davos, Tormund, (also I think Brienne) and maybe one person from the Northern houses. And the Hound too, ofc. I also believe that Bran is going to help Aid Jon beyond the wall. 

Finally, Last but not least. The controversial Sansa and Jon rivalry next season. Tbh I’m still salty that Sansa took Arya’s line in the trailer for s7 so I will skim this one quickly. When the Starks do reunite next season there is no fucking doubt that ARYA WILL BACK JON AS THE KITN. Arya is loyal to Jon AF. And this is proven in the fact that both in AGOT and s1, when Ned asks Arya where she got Needle from, she bites her lip and stays silent about Jon. Claiming that she would never betray him. Out of all the Stark siblings, Jon and Arya are the two closest siblings and have a special bond that no other Stark sibling have with each other.. They constantly think about each other in the books and Jon even died at the end of ADWD for her. (Jeyne Poole) Arya even considered at the time to go to the wall to be with Jon. “Needle was Jon Snow’s smile.” No doubt Arya would rather have her “bastard brother” rule instead of Sansa. Which if Sansa does end up scheming against Jon, THERE WILL BE TENSION BETWEEN ARYA AND HER. This will probably ultimately provoke Arya to kill Littlefinger. Then there’s Bran. Bran is considered the rightful heir of Winterfell. However I believe that with the flashback from s6 and now that Bran is a tree boy, his priorities are much more important than running the North. Bran knows that Jon is a good soldier. And also a good leader. Bran knows that the North needs someone with good leadership/swordmanship qualities to lead the realm into battle against the White Walkers. (Something that Sansa lacks) No doubt too, Bran will back up Jon as the KITN and maybe even the throne (if there even will be one) And he will also be the one to help Jon when the long night comes. The moment Bran and Arya back up Jon as the KITN will be the moment Sansa will come to terms with Jon and realizes that truly the pack survives if they are together…

Anyway, s7 is going to be lit af and I honestly can’t fucking wait. Just 5 more days guys! Honestly, this post was originally me talking about Jon snow and sigils, buuut it turned out to be a whole prediction post soo… :D 

Originally posted by winterfellskingdom

anonymous asked:

top ten WORST adapted plots from asoiaf

  1. You can’t just have a list like this and not start it off with Dorne. A plot that showed the unrest of the realm, that some old Houses still hold loyalty to the Targaryens, that really explains just how much bad blood there is between House Martell and House Lannister. Not to mention told strongly from the POV of POC female who is going to be ruler of her lands by her own right because Dorne allows the succession of a first born child rather first born male. This is changed into a group of angry, violent women murdering rooms full of men and posioning little girls because feminism. You know what- just read my piece on Arianne Martell.
  2. Sansa Stark, post King’s Landing. Certainly there’s problems with Sansa in King’s Landing but post King’s Landing… oh me oh my. Sansa in the books is sitting in the Vale- yes, in the clutches of Petyr Baelish, who ends up being the lesser of two evils. She’s eating lemon cakes and trying to supress the Stark inside her. Still being promised off to wed to some dirt bag- but ultimately safe and satifised. Instead Littlefinger is selling her off to be raped and beaten by Fuckwad Bolton. Now she’s empowered because woman need to be brutalized in order to be strong. Thanks D&D.
  3. The North Remembers. In the books, the post-Red Wedding is extreme. The North is harsh and unforgiving. They don’t trust the Boltons- they sort of hate them- and are only bowing to apease them and keep themselves as safe as possible. (See: the Manderlys, who have family members kept hostage by the Lannisters and don’t want to cause any trouble.) In the show… well the North doesn’t really remember shit. Robb Stark’s death served no purpose because there was no backlash. The North just accepted the Boltons as Wardens of the North, and are still doing so- even with Sansa and Jon staring them down.
  4. Stannis Baratheon- is that enough to say? Stannis Baratheon, is probably the only Baratheon once giving a shit about. He is firm when he needs to be but the show took his strong beliefs and morals into make him practically stone and one dimensional. Stannis is shown to be flippy floopy with his daughter, very loving and caring- would do anything to keep her safe then just allowed her to burned because of her kings blood. Also within this plot is Selyse, who keeps her dead babies in glass jars. Because why not add dead babies to such a horrible plot? Obviously. 
  5. Jon Snow + For the Watch. Remember when in 5x10 seemingly murdered Jon for no damn reason at all and claimed it was “for the watch.” Yeah, well it was.. in the books. Jon was much too concerned with finding “Arya”. The Brothers of the Night’s Watch did what they felt they needed to- kill Jon for the safety of the Watch and all they’ve stood for for thousands of years. Maybe it wasn’t the smarrtest decision, but in the show’s tranistion from Jon Snow to Jonathan Snowflakes (and the brutal rapes and beatings of Sansa Stark) the whole Arya thing got lost, and Jon’s death was done entirely to drive his revenge plot. 
  6. Margaery Tyrell’s Oversexualization. This had been mentioned many times, taking this very ambitious character of Margaery Tyrell, and making her become everything book Cersei feared she was. It altered the entire plot, Cersei is no longer the terrified paranoid queen but a mother very concerned for her child. She manages to have Margaery shamed without getting any blood on her hands, though the Tyrells blame her anyway. Margaery only manages to get away from being shamed because Tommen wants the V. Let’s not get into the regular sexual abuse of twelve year old Tommen Baratheon, because that’s just so much. And how Loras Tyrell does absoutely nothing but be gay, and certainly isn’t storming the walls of Dragonstone and dying slowly so that his father’s men can be free to go help Highgarden from the attack of the Iron Borne. Can I just change this to: House Tyrell and Kings’ Landing?  
  7. The Brotherhood Without Banners. This wonderful group dynamics who are supposed to rally the Riverlands to their cause, who are helping and basically ASOIAF Robin Hoods. In the show, they’re basically thieves with no purpose half the time. There’s no Lady Stoneheart, all they ended up being nothing more than a plot device for Meliandre to see R’hllor resurrecting so she can use it on Jon Snow in three years. Also the way they completely sell Gendry, which is ridiculous.
  8. Bran Stark & The Three Eyed Raven. On first inspect, this could almost be considered a decent adaptation. Bran reached his Raven, is being trained. But Three Eyed Raven (Not Brynden Rivers, because D&D threw that away when they mentioned that he was like, a thousand years old) yet really, Three Eyed Raven is sort of a horrible teacher. Bran has left his care- which hasn’t happened in the books yet- and knows nothing more than he did before, and the only thing he has from his time with TER is three less people who loved and likely a horrible case of survivors guilt and PTSD. 
  9. Tyrion Lannister- his “alcoholism” and how he’s not Quentyn Martell. Tyrion Lannister drank his way across the Narrow Sea, and he’s always been prone to drink. So ofc, his driking problem is cured the second he sees some dragons. Obliviously. Not to mention that they gave away certain points of the lost Quentyn Martell to a white cis male. (Too bad the dragons didn’t eat him.) While in the books we see Tyrion bonding with Penny- another dwarf- and having his suicidal plots. We meet “Aegon Targaryen” and start see how everything in falling into place for the uprising of House Targaryen. Instead we got Tyrion “drinking and knowing things”. Well done D&D, there goes the character development. Show Tyrion has been the same pile of white washed, boring shit for six years now. Podrick’s dick has better development that show Tyrion. (ugh more sexualization of children.)
  10. Arya Stark and the House of Black and White. Aside from the fact that The House of Black and White doesn’t make sense in their own moments- see, Jaqen making it apparent that a face can only be used once the person has died then proceeding to show Arya’s face for simple shock value- it continues to just not show Arya as the fighter she is. Yes, there was some nice blind fighting on her part, but it’s non of the Arya Stark who willing drank the blind milk to empower her training. Add in the Waif who seemingly wanted nothing more than to murder Arya from the day one, and the fact that Jaqen is randomly training her. The House of Black and White had been a stretch from the beginnig, and almost close enough to pass as a decent adaptation when that is actually far from the truth.