the way to stop a superhero conflict

anonymous asked:

Hi, I'm just curious but could you please tell me how Tony isn't a war profiter?

Hmm well I have to admit I’m not too familiar on what war profiteering actually is, but I have a general sense and I feel like this post explains it better than I could.

But, I feel like I need to throw in my two cents here and also add that, while many people (Tony included tbh) think what he did and created was wrong, at the end of the day, his weapons and guns were what protected American soldiers for generations. Howard Stark kitted out Captain America with his weapons and shield in the first place.

It’s a difficult subject and a bit of a grey area- what makes a war profiteer and what makes a company just trying to defend their country? We all know that Tony’s- admittedly naive- view was that he was protecting Americans, and as soon as he realised that wasn’t the case, the weapons manufacturing was immediately ceased. And, like it or not, had Tony’s weapons not been in production, then chances are many of American soldiers wouldn’t have been protected.

 It’s a little like the concept of Mutually Assured Destruction (ironically shorted to the acronym MAD)- the military concept that, if every country has a nuclear weapon in its inventory, then no one else will fire at the other, because they know that they’re just going to get one fired right back at them. Had Tony not been there supplying weapons, then who would have? What would have stopped any enemies from pulling something? Like Tony said- ‘it’s an imperfect world, but it’s the one we’ve got’.

Listen. I’m not endorsing war in any way, and basically as soon as tony realised that he was being played by Obie he Shut That Shit Down Immediately- but what he was doing before, wasn’t, in my opinion, war profiteering. There’s no proof to say that he lobbied for war or conflict (and we can definitely assume that he didn’t bc,,, he’s a superhero lmao that’s not exactly in his nature), and we know that he donated and funded many charities, which means he wasn’t solely interested in making profit.

So far, Steven’s powers have been:
A bright pink shield
A bright pink bubble
Magical healing saliva

And he is always STOPPING fights, usually peacefully and in nonviolent ways, trying to get both sides to get along and understand each other. Suffice it to say, he is not your typical superhero. In fact, he’s really not that super yet. He’s still on training wheels. And yet he often manages to end conflicts WITHOUT powers or weapons that destroy others.

And I love what this show is doing with him and all of his friends. Especially in a pop culture that is overpopulated these days with “save the world” shenanigans and focusing on powers and shock value instead of being “strong in the real way.”

I’m already proud of this little guy and the small steps he’s made. His journey isn’t one of leaps and bounds but baby steps, like real people.

This week’s wonderful two-parter has set up what the show has been foreshadowing for some while: that Steven, being half Human and half Gem, will forge a path that unites both kinds of beings – a path paved by acts of non-violence, understanding, and compassion. Where his merit and strength as a hero isn’t defined by his powers (which, BTW, completely fly in the face of typical superhero and gender role BS), but instead by HIS CHOICES.

And THAT is the kind of hero story we need these days, IMO.

I’m sick of watching characters save the world from evil.

I want to see characters saving themselves, saving each other – personal journeys about making choices and resolving conflicts, not just slapping “evil” around. Even SU’s plot twists don;t feel cheap. They feel rewarding, because they are always foreshadowed and always recontextualize earlier events that maybe didn’t make sense. They feel planned, thought out, CARED for, just like the characters who populate the world.

Steven’s story, especially given the moral ambiguities brought to the table recently, really has a lot of potential to do these things – to be a personal journey more than typical “destroy evil” stuff – and in many ways, it has already.

I believe in Steven.

anonymous asked:

It was kind of a big deal in the civil war that Steve was the underdog and that was why people thought he was the good guy (and that was how Tony knew that people would hate him), but the civil war trailer seems to be showing exactly the opposite. Everywhere we see them, Steve has a SIGNIFICANT advantage over Tony, whether by being 2 on 1 or by having a force twice the size... here's hoping that the movie uses that to make pro-reg more sympathetic and show that everyone was wrong to fight

it’s kind of ironic i know. and i love how simply you’ve pointed out a giant part of the flaw of fandom belief that he is ?? still the underdog ??  like typically in any conflict, political or otherwise, the underdog is the one you want to root for. they usually stand the most to lose but the more we’re learning about cacw the more it seems like that’s completely not the case for mcu.

i think, on some level, the russos knew this going in so maybe they’re going to try a ‘deconstruct the archetype’ route to make things more interesting. all the talk about ‘cap’s dark side’ and the interviews with russos and cevans about trying to represent a battle that has good arguments on both sides is making me hopeful?? but again i dON’T want to get my hopes up before it’s actually released so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

and tbh however you look at it. if you want to talk about underdogs, civil war really shouldn’t be viewed as only a battle between two parties. (and i know this is breaking all the rules between ‘fictional reality’ and ‘actual reality that we the audience inhabit’ but given that so much of cacw, and the russo’s work with tws, is going to parallel real world issues, i don’t see why this shouldn’t be brought up.) WE, the audience, are as much a stakeholder in this conflict and in many ways it’s the civilian population that’s the true ‘underdog’ here. the audience / the civilians are the ones left to actually face the collateral damage, the ones who have to deal with the fallout of what does happen when a superhero screws up. and then of course there’s the opposite where, in a country like the US, if the government can monitor and strip personal liberties from superheroes where does the line stop with everyday civilian populations.

the fact that steve is perceived as ‘the underdog’ in both comics and mcu is really Really ironic given that tony is the one person appointed to lead pro-registration because HE IS HUMAN. HE IS A HERO THAT IS ALSO HUMAN. he is the bridge between the superhero / superhuman world of gods and supersoldiers and civilian humans. he’s acting on behalf of the government yes but also on behalf of civilians. i.e. all the people without powers, without the ability to protect themselves against villains or heroes.

mcu might change it up, it might not. i’d be a 1000 x more interested, personally, to see the civil war story For Once not written in a way that clearly positions either side as an underdog. steve apologizes in the comics, maybe not to tony’s face but he recognizes out loud that he personally made mistakes

if they’re going to do cw at all, the leAST they could do is attempt to demonstrate that ‘war’ is never something heroic or noble or brave at all. it’s ugly, and destructive and when it’s a civil war, it’s even worse. the point of war isn’t to win at all, it’s to reach peace. and if both sides can’t realize by the end that they both made mistakes then whAT !! is !! the point !!!!!

For three quarters of a century, this immigrant ultimate hero, welcomed to Earth from a doomed world, has dramatized, on an epic stage of distant worlds, cosmic destinies and far flung futures, all the familiar conflicts, battles and triumphs of everyday life. As you’ll come to see, the best Superman stories dress in the gaudy trappings of pulp science fiction.

However, they also wrestle with big, universal emotions of grief and triumph, jealousy, selfless love and, most of all, hope. The Man of Tomorrow, born on a distant planet, first and greatest of the superheroes is, ironically, among the most human.

Somewhere, right now, Superman is in mid-leap. Somewhere, he’s already on his way to save the world, or stop a bully. Somewhere, the clock is already ticking, the story has already begun.

—  Grant Morrison [2012]
A really kick ass movie

Here’s the idea.

A movie where one person of an entire city is chosen as the champion of that city.  Mix in a heaping helpful of Greek myth, and you already have the villains lining up to get beat down by the hero.

While the hero has no compunctions with taking a life, the hero will still know that doing so is a great sin, and should be done only as a dire last resort.  That caring, talking, negotiation, and resolving differences with peace is the only way to end a conflict.

But should that prove impossible, if the opposing side is so stubborn that they will do what they wish no matter the cost, then the hero will take up arms and lead the people into battle.  The hero will be a beacon of light that will inspire all those who would happen to meet this person.  They’d want to be just like this hero, in ways that they can conceivably undertake.

Oh, but this hero will have super strength, the ability to fly, can stop bullets with ease, and can track down foes and make them submit and surrender.  Because if need be, this hero will do so.

One hero, with a Greek pantheon of villains and heroes, the wisdom to avoid conflict, but the ability to take up arms if need be.

Sounds pretty cool, huh?

I just described Wonder Woman.