Let me be upfront when I say that, as far as I know, there has only ever been one example of a character going Grimdark in Homestuck: Rose Lalonde. Jade’s brief time spent as Grimbark!Jade is not the same since her shift was caused by Her Imperious Condescension’s mind-control, not the Horrorterrors. The Horrorterrors are the key to becoming Grimdark, and as Rose displayed, they don’t control you; they invert your aspect.
Aspect inversion is a tricky subject. How the aspects invert is fairly simple - each aspect has an opposite, after all:
Breath - Blood
Light - Void
Time - Space
Life - Doom
Heart - Mind
Hope - Rage
But class inversion is harder to pin down. There is the Passive-Active dichotomy that Calliope discussed with Dirk (Prince is active while Bard is passive), but this is not an inversion. Inverting someone’s class would require finding the class that acts as its direct opposite. As such, I will be using @classpect-shet‘s Class Inversion Guide, which can be found here. The inversions of classes are as follows:
Heir - Mage
Seer - Witch
Knight - Rogue
Page - Thief
Maid - Bard
Sylph - Prince
For example, if I were to go Grimdark, I would go from being a Knight of Rage to a Rogue of Hope: one who distributes inspiration and positive emotions through inspiration and positive emotions. A Mage of Space would become an Heir of Time. Et cetera. When Rose went Grimdark and succumbed to the Horrorterrors, she became a Witch of Void: one who manipulates nothingness and ignorance through nothingness and ignorance. The meaning of her words were concealed to the point where no one could understand what she was trying to say. In other words, manipulating her secrets to make others ignorant. She managed to obfuscate the troll’s viewport of her and those who she was near, creating a Blackout. Vriska said as much when she tried contacting John after their encounter with Jack on the Battlefield when she advised him to get away from Rose so she could see him.
Unlike Trickster Mode - which is incredibly unlikely to occur even with a Cherub influence in their session - going Grimdark is a very real possibility for a session so long as players (probably Derse-dreamer) have a connection to the Horrorterrors. How one would turn it off is a matter of debate. Rose only returned to being a Seer of Light when she died, so there’s no way of knowing if it can even be stopped aside from death.
So yeah! Grimdark! I’m not sure how to end this, so I’ll just add a badass picture of Grimdark!Rose
New reylo shipper here! can you recommend me blogs about reylo to follow? I want everything of that in my dash.
Hey dude! Welcome to the reylo void aka the reylo trash compactor :))) I’m very glad to have you on board, so get ready for this ride, it’s gonna be w i l d, and exciting and damn, so kriffing good.
Of course I can recommend you some blogs! *been waiting all my life for this moment jk*
I’m gonna give you a full list of reylo blogs I follow so far that update in a regular basis and are awesome af. I’m sure I’m mising a lot of my lovely reylo fam out there so pls let me know if I’ve missed you!
well, I hope I’ve helped you, and let me tell you that your ask made my day! so that’s a tiny bunch of them hehe. Fam, feel free to tag fellow reylo shippers pls. I would love to meet them too. //bolded ones - I enjoy their content so much, they either make stunning edits or write wonderful fanfics, or make mind-blowing fanart, or write so precious meta or even if they don’t all this blogs are so interesting and you should totally check them out.// and anon, i could show you the ways of the Force reylo
sometimes I like to imagine how Hollow Knight would have looked like if he was allowed to grow just like his sibling that is currently holding the infection.
Since by the Abyss it is shown that they have all round like heads with the exception of horns, and the only grown Knight we see has that curved moon like shape head, I like to imagine they most likely grow to similar shapes unless the horns are on the sides of the head. So since Hollow’s very similar to his sibling, I tried to keep that same similar too. The big difference is that its head is much rounder and the horns have a shorter points separation and it keeps the 2 points.
Something I realized last night: the only reason Homestuck actually has a plot is because the characters involved are all forced to play using pre-built character sheets; if SBURB/SGRUB had a halfway decent character editor built in, then a party of 3-4 dedicated powergamers could easilly snap the game in half.
Put simply, it’s actually pretty obvious that not all classes and aspects are created equal (no matter what some might say on the matter), and some simply become so utterly gamebreaking once explored that it isn’t even funny. To just give two examples that use nothing but canon information: Seer of Time and Seer of Space.
In canon, Seers are shown to see things and foresee events governed by their aspect. Rose, Seer of Light, is able to know the exact most fortuitous path that the meteor group needs to take, no matter how insane or convoluted that path actually is, and Terezi, Seer of Mind, is able to foresee the results of people’s decisions, possibly to the point of knowing what you will do before you do, and might even have been able to read thoughts if she had God Tiered (as evidenced by her being able to see Brain Ghost Dirk, actually see him, despite being blind at the time).
Meanwhile, Time and Space are the only aspects shown to be mostly literal, albeit with some esoteric connotations, literally governing the fabric of space and time. All Time players are shown to have the ability to time travel (a trick which is outright weaponized by Dave), Aradia is shown to be able to actually stop time for an enemy, and Lord English uses time itself as a weapon, wielding stable timeline loops as both sword and shield. Meanwhile, on the Space side, Jade is able to freely manipulate the mass and volume of objects, able to make a planet small enough to fit in her hand without any change in density, and alternate future Caliope is able to all but rewrite reality, manipulating the physical world in a way which, due to timeline complications in the Farthest Ring, should be impossible.
Combining this knowledge, Seer of Time and Seer of Space get really, really broken. To start with the weaker ability: a Seer of Space would be able to see everything, anywhere, at that exact moment. They wouldn’t exactly be able to foresee things, time being explicitly out of their control, but they would have perfect knowledge of reality at any given moment, making them a mathematical demon. No matter where you ran, they could catch you. No matter where you hid, they could find you. No matter what precautions you took, the only way to get around a Seer of Space would be to exploit either time based shenanigans, or to wield Void powers (something which even the omniscient can’t get around).
Meanwhile, a Seer of Time would be ridiculously, abominably, unstopably insane, able to foresee any and all conequences of everything that might or must happen, along with knowledge of when things must happen for events to unfold. While they themselves might not have any time travel powers (or at least, being so weak with time travel that there’s no real reason to bother), they wouldn’t actually need them, because they already know what the future holds. To give one small example of how insanely broken a Seer of Time would be, they would be able to know the exact moment needed to set off a packet of explosives, the blast from which would cause air turbulence, which would interact with the weather patterns already in existance, which would cause a cascade of unlikely but perfectly timed events to create an EF5 tornado, which would conveniently touch down just before it’s time to fight the Black King.
And this is just parsing canon information; I’d shudder to imagine how some other classpects would be, if fandom speculation is correct. Heir of Hope, assuming that Heir means, “protected by, and responsible for,” and that Hope means, “possibilities, dreams, and that which might be,” would mean that an Heir of Hope would be protected by possibility itself, to the point of trancending luck; all which is and might be would bend over backwards to protect the Heir of Hope, to the point of surrealism. A Prince of Void, using canon info here, would parse as, “one who destroys, or destroys through, that which is hidden or does not exist,” and would mean that a Prince of Void would be able to simply destroy the nonexistance of anything, probably able to create things to a far greater degree than Roxy in canon, who merely steals their nonexistance rather than destroying it. A Lord of Blood, assuming Lord to mean, “one who holds command and dominion,” and Blood to mean, “unity, community, and fraternity,” would parse out as, “one who commands unity,” and that ads up to the literally perfect leader, able to command any disparate group into a single well-oiled machine.
Really, the only reason Homestuck has a plot at all is because the characters shown actually have some pretty shitty classes and aspects. Give me a Seer of Time, a Knight of Space, an Heir of Hope, and a Prince of Void, and the biggest danger would be them arguing with themselves.
Upon becoming godtier there are 2-3 bonus levels. If you climb up higher you should get aesthetic improvements to actually look godly. The outfits should get increasingly intricate and other bonuses are rewarded
Basically you can go from Caliborn’s outfit to Lord English’s
Here are some things me, sone followers , and some friends made up
Get a summonable cloak connected to their aspect
Space- can summon anything in space
Time- rainbow colored, tears in accordance to tears in time
Void- infinitely deep, can store whatever the Lord wishes
Rage- ominous and foreboding, changes to look more aggressive and intimidating to match the Lord’s temperment
Aspect materializations form around them. If they max out they will gain the traits of their mentor (Jade’s dog ears, Handmaid’s clockwork majyyk eyes)
Space- miniature planets or meteors
Hope- St. Elmo’s fire burns around them
Heart- wisps float around them
Gain more pockets with each additional tier. They glow brighter the more aspect related items and trinkets they are wearing or are in their pockets. If they max out they have special summoning gloves that can summon aspect items.
Light- glow golden the more gold they have on them and any Light related objects
Void- glow dark blue the more silver they have on them and any Void related objects
Gain armor pieces related to their aspect. If they max out they get a full set. (Literally just look up knight godtier armor)
Blood- made stronger by each ally the Knight has. Drips if trying to look intimidating
Time- changes age and shine depending on their mood
Doom- cracked, has green glowing fissures
Their aspect crops up around them
Light- leaves embers and fireflies as they walk
Void- their shadow is larger and darker than it should be. At night it becomes infinitely black and appears to be a swirling abyss
Life- small plants spring up at their feet
Get summonable spell tomes and scrolls with aspect knowledge in them. They radiate aspect energy.
Void- the books leak infinitely black liquid
Heart- summons wisps
Rage- creates gentle haunting music
If they max out they receive runic tattoos for their aspect. Runes wrap around their wrist
Their eyes change
Space- you can see a galaxy in their eyes
Light- their pupils turn yellow and their sclera are pure white
Their hands glow their aspect, leaving glowing handprints of their aspect.
If they max out they get a magic satchel that summons and de-summons aspect related items. The satchel can be anything from a book bag to purse.
Space- holds a miniature universe. Can pull out mini versions of stars, planets, etc.
Heart- holds the keys to any heart, each key has a different pattern
Gain aspect related tattoos. If they max out they will have a special effect
Life- tattoos of plants and animals grow and change
Breath- wind/water tattoos that move and breath
Their aspect warps into their outfit, shrouding them from all sides
Space- made from a pocket dimension that absorbs all that would harm them
Void- portal to the furthest ring, can unleash horrerterror tentacles
Breath- floats freely, gently pushes a breeze around them that can grow into a storm
I probably won’t finish this post. If you want to add anything, tell me! If you make a list of your own, tell me!
THIS ENTIRE POST IS A SPOILER FOR THE AMAZING WORLD OF GUMBALL
Character: Rob (The Amazing World of Gumball)
Classpect Functions: Pr(N/S)ABTR
Inverse: Rogue of Light
Key traits (Jungian Classpect Theory)
Intuitive/Sensory: He comes up with plans in order to take down Gumball and, before that, he just wanted to live simply and hides under the Watterson basement and lived off their food and stuff.
Fabric: He hates Gumball considerably because of what he has done to him in the past and will persist in being Gumball’s enemy despite the other’s friendly gestures in “The Nemesis”. When he decided that Gumball was not all that bad in “The Rerun”, he tries his best not to hate Gumball in “The Ex” and it took a lot before Rob broke.
Thinking: He was as far willing to blow up a bus full of kids and steal money just because of his hatred for Gumball. He was able to manipulate the adults so that he could get away with it.
(Preserve, Active, Fabric, Required): Rob has a very nihilistic philosophy on life. No longer does he care about the well beings of others, and only cares about getting revenge on his self-sworn nemesis, Gumball. He only merely exists to be an enemy and in “The Disaster”, he becomes aware that he is a fictional character and expresses distaste on how he was treated throughout the show and how he wished that he was the adorable sidekick with his own plushy and spinoff series.
To find out how I came to this conclusion, check my sidebar and click “Theories Applied”. For God tier costumes, click the link “Usable Sprites”. Sorry for not being able to link it directly on this post because Tumblr will not let this reach the search if I put links on the post.