has anyone noticed that, in the part of this song where ham catches a glimpse of the other side, it’s not his son or his mother he sees first, both of which are relatives by blood. it’s not washington, the person who gave him a place in the revolutionary war and a place in history.
Madison deserved his own song that would be either a waltz like “Your Obedient Servant” or jazzy like “The Room Where it Happens.” Ooh, or both!
Title: “Out-Write, Wrong!” because, going by the play, his WHOLE THING is that he also wrote things, but was completely over shadowed by Hamilton. He wrote the Bill of Rights and 29 of the Federalist papers (which IRL may be more because the 51 credited to Hamilton, some of those may also have been Madison’s). ALSO in the workshop version of “One Last Ride,” Washington says something like. “I need you to help me with my Farewell Address. Madison wrote the first draft and it’s a mess!”
There’s a WHOLE arc there that’s not addressed, of Madison wanting to be recognized, in his own right, for writing as much as Hamilton did. (You can tell with his “Which I Wrote!” tone in “Washington On Your Side”). But he gets COMPLETELY overshadowed by Hamilton, to the point that his accomplishments are just briefly mentioned in a line or two.
So I would love to see him take on that same attitude as Burr and Jefferson towards Hamilton. He clearly still respects Hamilton (telling Jefferson to get Ham on his side in “The Election of 1800”), but I think animosity is there in the fact that he’s more meek and less aggressive than Hamilton, so no one is giving him his due with his papers. We get to see this intense sort of rivalry one-on-one from Jefferson and Burr with Ham, but not from Madison at all.
I’d like a song sort of starting out like “Obedient Servant” and shifting into “The Room Where it Happens.” Of course a rap-like diss-track could work too (the one time we could see sick little Jmads blow off some steam)!
As for the title I came up with? It’s outright wrong that Ham gets more credit than Madison for out-writing him. ;-)
Maybe in the song, he’s singing and complaining about Ham in his POV as Jefferson is getting back from France? It would tie in to the “My friend James Madison red in the face!” line before he explains what Ham has been doing. (Sort of the way “Satisfied” immediately follows “Helpless,” but from Angelica’s POV).
Even better, to not ruin that transition from “What’d I Miss?” to “Cabinet Battle 1,” it could also probably come in after “The Room Where it Happens” as the Democratic-Republics are gearing up for their one-on-one with Ham in each song. And as James is singing, Jefferson comes in near the end and encourages him to stand up for himself as they plot against Hamilton.
Hey! Can I have Angelica in constant ramblings? Thanks
Congratulations You have invented a new kind of stupid A ‘damage you can never undo’ kind of stupid An 'open all the cages in the zoo’ kind of stupid ’Truly, you didn’t think this through?’ kind of stupid
rolling stones: so ham slice, tell us about your sing songs
ham slice: in case you haven’t noticed, i’m weird. i’m a weirdo. i don’t fit in. and i don’t wanna fit in. have you ever seen me without this stupid pink suit on. that’s weird.
hi idk if youve noticed but since you do song analysis i just wanted to point that esny has that same bassline as baby blue by badfinger..i didnt know what to make of this cause the story behind the song is a little sad
This was the track I was looking for last night, thank you! I was searching through Todd Rundgren and couldn’t find it. Yes, the bass run was so familiar, but I just couldn’t remember it.
The song does have a sad history associated with it. Todd Rundgren and George Harrison got Apple Records to finish production of Badfinger’s album, “Straight Up,” in 1971 (“Baby Blue” was one of the singles). The lead singer and songwriter, Pete Ham, wrote this song for an ex-girlfriend, Dixie Armstrong. He commuted suicide at age 27.
Guess I got what I deserved
Kept you waiting there too long, my love
All that time without a word
Didn’t know you’d think that I’d forget or I’d regret
The special love I had for you, my baby blue
All the days became so long
Did you really think, I’d do you wrong?
Dixie, when I let you go
Thought you’d realize that I would know
I would show the special love I have for you, my baby blue
What can I do, what can I say
Except I want you by my side
How can I show you, show me the way
Don’t you know the times I’ve tried?
[guitar solo (Joey Molland)]
Guess that’s all I have to say
Except the feeling just grows stronger every day
Just one thing before I go
Take good care, baby, let me know, let it grow
The special love you have for me, my Dixie, dear.