‘How should we fight racism?’ I said with progressive racism. We should adopt racism. They looked at me like - ‘Are you crazy?’ There is a way to practise - I wouldn’t say racist jokes because precisely they are no longer racist take my own country: till the 80s in ex-Yugoslavia, we all the time exchanged dirty jokes about one and the other nation. And I loved them. But this didn’t function as racist jokes but as a kind of a shared obscenity which meant a way of solidarity. …I meet a guy from Montenegro. …We immediately start to tell to each other dirty jokes about the other and about ourselves. …The standard Montenegro story, Montenegrins are supposed to be lazy and they are an earthquake country. So how does a Montenegro guy masturbate? He digs a hole in the earth, puts the penis in and waits for the earthquake. Because he is too lazy even to - but what I want to say is that this …absolutely wasn’t racism, it was solidarity. The message was: we are not just this, you know, cold, politically correct - ooh, what nice food you have, what nice ethnic dances. I don’t care about your stupid, ethnic dances! I want dirty jokes, you know!