teen wolf: meta

  • White character: *murders an innocent person for power*
  • Fandom: He had no choice!
  • Character of color: *shows mercy*
  • Fandom: How weak, he never did anything!
  • White character: *stalks, harasses, and exploits vulnerable characters, in large part for their own gain*
  • Fandom: He's doing the best he can!
  • Character of color: *hurts someone in the process of saving their life, with the only other option being to let them die*
  • Fandom: He's no better than a rapist!
  • White character: *lies frequently, lashes out at loved ones in anger, and hurts an innocent person just because they are feeling hurt*
  • Fandom: He's been through a lot!
  • Character of color: *takes a while to recover from trauma and assault and needs time to feel safe around a person who tried to kill him*
  • Fandom: He's emotionally abusive! He's manipulative!
  • White character: *manipulates and lies to others*
  • Fandom: He's practical! He's getting things done!
  • Character of color: *manipulates and lies to others*
  • Fandom: HOW DARE HE?!
  • White character: *makes a plan we don't see the entirety of until after it happens*
  • Fandom: How clever!
  • Character of color: *makes a plan we don't see the entirety of until after it happens*
  • Fandom: How manipulative!
  • White character: *murders an innocent member of their family for power*
  • Fandom: He's just trying to preserve the rest of his family and help the community!
  • Character of color: *actually tries to help his family*
  • Fandom: He's selfish for helping his own family instead of everyone else's families!
  • White character: *is actually seen hurting someone in the canon material*
  • Fandom: The show is distorting events to make the hero of the show look like a hero!
  • Character of color: *actually goes through harm and trauma*
  • Fandom: It's made up/exaggerated! They should be able to recover right away!
  • White character: *does something shitty*
  • Fandom: He's traumatized! He has a mental illness!
  • Character of color: *makes a mistake they tried to avoid before it happened and try to rectify after*
  • Fandom: Trauma/mental illness is no excuse for anything!
  • White character: *background or recurring character with a simple/superficial story*
  • Fandom: Here's a million and one headcanons and AUs that we'll perpetuate so far that people don't realize they never actually happened in the show!
  • Character of color: *main character of the show, engaging story line, and deep narrative*
  • Fandom: This character is so boring! Nothing ever happens, he never changes, and he never does anything!
There’s somebody in the trailer that should be dead! - Confirmed not Tara...thank god!

I first watched the trailer and noticed there’s somebody with the pack who should not be there at all.
Can you see her?

Next to Theo

That is Tara Raeken. Theo’s sister.

Same clothes, same hair (Look up Shelby Steel the actress who plays her) They brought Tara back. Opening a door into another world must be what did it.

Let’s analyze the Sterek shit in 6b trailer

Right after I watched the trailer, I immediately started analyzing and searching elements about Derek and Stiles. First thing, obviously, Derek is BACK YES and Stiles appears in the season. 

But now here are things I noticed, and I’m pretty sure it’s just my hardcore shipper side taking control of my mind so please don’t take it seriously ok ?  It’s really far fetched and I don’t want to start a fight with anyone. If you’re not agreeing with me just keep scrolling :) (and if you keep reading excuse my not so perfect english, there may be a lot of mistakes !)

1. They’re back together 

As you probably noticed, Stiles and Derek came back to Beacon Hills and met Scott at the same time and together, right ? And it can’t be a coincidence because neither of them looks surprised to see the other and the “without us ?” looks way too prepared for them to meet at this moment. Except if Stiles’ eyes rolling back in his head is him about to faint from surprise. Guess it’s not.

So I can surely assume that they met before, and came back together.How did they meet, I have no idea : maybe one was looking for the other (and it makes my heart swell to think about it), or maybe they ran into each other, like drawn by fate. Hem. They probably both drove together in the jeep too. Knowing them and their friendly relation, I can guess they talked and bantered with one another during the trip. So they obviously spent time together and that makes my heart happy.

2. Stiles helps Derek

Again, that’s obvious if you watched the trailer, but Stiles helps carrying an injured Derek out of a fight (we’ll also notice that Stiles is wearing a FBI shirt and I  wonder how that happened since you can’t become a FBI agent in so little time but that’s not the point).This short scene immediately reminded me of season 2 in the pool before they went in the water and Stiles had to carry Derek in the exact same position and they had this nice little talk about how they don’t really trust each other and that Stiles is helping Derek just because he needs him to survive. Well, that obviously changed, and we’ve known that for a while now, but I like the maybe involuntary parallel between the season 2 scene and this one where Stiles saves Derek without hesitation. Awesome relationship and characters evolution !

3. No Stydia ?

I’m not trying to throw shade on Stydia, I totally respect this ship, but I couldn’t keep myself from noticing that Lydia doesn’t have a scene with Stiles alone, when Scalia (yay !) has this shower scene and a lot of other one-to-one moments, as Melissa and Chris do. Lydia is mostly alone. Like really alone. She discovers this weird spiderweb thing alone, is in a bed alone, is in the school alone, screams alone (and right after a sterek scene !), is alone. The only moment Stiles and Lydia have together is in the last scene, where everyone is in or around the jeep, listening to the radio. They’re sitting side by side, I can give you that. But we’ll talk again about this scene later. This is surprising, absolutely no Stydia in the trailer, when 6a was all about this ship.

4. Stiles and Derek are a real duo

I’m not talking about romantic (or sexual if you want to see it that way) couple, but these two dorks are a recurrent and good working duo since season 1. It was mostly comic at the beginning, but they learned to trust and appreciate each other. I’m talking about Derek shoving Stiles in walls, banging his neck in a steering wheel and dying on him in season 1. I’m talking about the pool scene and breaking in the police station, Alpha Derek saving Stiles from Isaac, both being paralyzed in the police station (and Matt shipping it) in season 2. I’m talking about them being friendly when Scott gets his tattoo, eye contact, Derek punching Stiles hand, Derek trusting Stiles over his girlfriend, Stiles putting is hand on Derek’s shoulder at Boyd’s death, Stiles hitting him when he’s unconscious, Derek helping to save Stiles when he’s possessed, Derek trying to protect him when Chris points a gun at the Nogitsune, Derek dreaming about Stiles, in season 3. I’m talking about Stiles helping and taking care of teenager Derek, Stiles and Derek together helping Liam, Derek almost dying and Stiles hesitating to leave, fearing he won’t see him again, in season 4. I’m talking about Stiles noticing his initials on the bookshelf at school, Scott and Stiles mentioning Derek in season 5, when nobody else talked about him. 

Even if you don’t ship Sterek you have to see their relation. Trust, care, attachment. If I put to the side the romantic aspect of Sterek and only focus on what is canon, I’d say they are more than friends. Friends for Stiles is Scott. Derek is more, and it frustrates me that I can’t find the right word. They are like supernatural adventures partners. They’d do anything to help the other and trust them without questioning it. They earned that trust, and once obtained it’s even more solid than the one between Scott and Stiles (season 5 shows it). Derek would have believed Stiles in season 5 and supported him against Theo without a second thought. And they sometimes joke and banter together, so it works even more. The trailer shows that they’re not Derek and Stiles anymore. They’re Derek&Stiles, partners in crime. It’s even more emphasized by the “us” that Derek corrects. 

Despite my love for this otp, I see the canon Derek&Stiles more like a platonic relationship. Platonic soulmates. After the end of that war, I just imagine them going back to Washington or New York or wherever and move in together. Hell, they’ll even get platonically married and platonically raise children together, because they can’t imagine someone else to spend their life with. But if romantic Sterek goes canon I’ll be even more happy :D

5. Eye contact in the jeep

This one is the most far fetched and I totally over analyzed it.

In the last scene of the trailer, where Scott, Stiles and Lydia are in the jeep with Peter, Malia and Derek at the windows, I noticed a few things.

First, the Hales are all outside the car, which doesn’t mean anything but maybe it’s important to say it.

And, after a few observations, we can know that this is how they’re placed

(This picture is really awful but anyway)

And now is the interesting stuff.

I can’t really be sure what he is looking at, could be the radio, but I want to believe this very intense look is directed at Stiles. And while we’re talking about him…

Is this Stiles looking back at Derek ? Seems like it. It wouldn’t be the first time these two exchange glances and eye contact when nobody else is looking.

 (You can read this amazing meta theory where the author talks about Stiles and Derek relation and the importance of eye contact among other things : https://cupidsbower.tumblr.com/post/86202796600/dereks-anchor)

Peter and Lydia seem rather focused on the radio Scott is holding, we can’t see Malia, and Scott is looking through the window, but then he looks up, maybe at Derek, maybe just for the emphasis of his concentration and questions. No idea.

Also, if you squint really really hard during this scene, you may notice that Peter seems to be looking at Lydia, while she’s turning her eyes towards Stiles who’s looking at Derek. Derek stares back, Scott glances at Malia and we can’t see her face again so she could be looking anywhere. But it’s like everyone is staring at the person they have a connection with. Peter because he played with Lydia’s mind, Scott because he’s dating Malia. Lydia because she’s dating Stiles. And Stiles and Derek ? Because they have this incredible chemistry. Maybe we’re even talking about romantic connections and the show will end with canon Pydia, Scalia and Sterek, who knows ? But after a few slow-mo rewatchs I realized that except Derek and Stiles, they’re more likely to be watching the radio. So take this as you want it, nobody’s holding you back of believing it. 

The dorks look at each other exactly when Gerard (wasn’t he dead by the way ??) says “Welcome back. You must all be feeling rather nostalgic.”

The “welcome back” must be directed at Derek and Stiles, since they were the only ones among the people in the car who left Beacon Hills. So again, they’re addressed as a whole. (Or it’s a general “welcome back”, like “welcome back together, all gathered in the jeep like the good ol’time !”, or a “welcome back in a new nightmare where I’m magically alive !”. )

The “you must all be feeling rather nostalgic” is directed at everyone, and I guess the old man says that because a lot of people are back (Jackson ! The twin ! Kate ????), so I don’t give it much attention, but what I do give attention to is how a shot of Derek and his intense look is followed by a fade to black and then the shot of Stiles looking back at him. That must be the cinematographer inside me talking, but this kind of editing doesn’t come from nowhere. I see this sequence as a special importance giving deeper meaning to Gerard’s words. I see it as Derek and Stiles having felt nostalgic far away from the town and its inhabitants (pack and family included), but also far away from each other when Derek left. In other words, they missed each other. We’ve only seen Stiles’ point of view, when he signed the bookshelf or when Scott mentioned his name and he obviously had feelings (as friend or not) towards the werewolf. I can assume Derek felt the same way, especially after Braeden left him and came back to Beacon Hills without him.

Some people say that Stiles is Derek’s anchor, and I’m pretty convinced of that too. It makes even more sense that they found each other again when they’d lost contact for months, even maybe years. It’s like they gravitate toward each other. Platonic soulmates as I said before. And I can totally see them evolve in this platonic way. Stydia could keep happening, Derek could find a partner (Braeden ?), and they’ll still stay around each other no matter what.

I can totally see them evolve in a romantic relation too, but oh so different than what they both had had before. More serious than any of their previous relations, but they’ll still stay these two adorable dorks who can’t keep themselves from teasing the other and pretending they’re not funny, and always keeping this unbreakable trust and fidelity they already have. I’m totally on board with this. Yup. 

… And this post is way much longer than it was supposed to be so I’m gonna stop ! Don’t hesitate to give me your opinion and thoughts as long as you don’t insult me or anything, be kind please ! :) Have an awesome day !!


Bonus : 6. Something for the viewers

I just realized I forgot to mention something :

 “You didn’t think you were doing this without me, did you ?”

“Without us ?”

This, except being the cause of my cardiac arrest, can also be interpreted. Stiles and Derek obviously said these lines to Scott, but what if the production of Teen Wolf was saying this to us at the same time? A lot of people believed that Derek and Stiles wouldn’t appear in the last part of the show, but here they are ! And that’s a nice message, if it was voluntary :D 

I can still hope that, as a lot of people believe that romantic sterek won’t become canon, boom they’ll throw the love at us with a “You didn’t think this would happen, did you ?” and I can totally see something like this happen. In my head. But who knows ?

Now I’m really finished ! Thanks for reading :)

anonymous asked:

The thing is. Yeah, Stiles is right sometimes. But a broken clock is still right twice a day. Stiles literally suspects any and everyone. Especially if they are someone who has the possibility of getting close to Scott. His suspicions aren't based on any actual facts. They're based on jealousy. Stiles is paranoid about anyone else getting close to Scott and taking Scott away from him. Also look at the first episode of 6A. Where he has been dragging lydia out of bed 3 times a week for 3 months.

Stiles is a great character.   His paranoia, his hypervigilance, his fierce devotion didn’t arise out of nothing.  As much as I felt they overdid it in 6A, there is a reason they keep going back to Claudia.   

Stiles, remember, was never ever jealous of Allison.  He repeatedly encouraged Scott in seasons 1 and 2 to spend time with her.  Do you think he was clueless when he rolled down that window in Tattoo?  He was trying to break the ice between them, in my opinion.  The idea that Stiles resented Allison is a fanon invention.

Stiles was jealous of Isaac, but Isaac and him had never got along.  Their first real conversation was Isaac threatening to kill Lydia, remember? 

But here is the thing – Stiles Is afraid of Scott being taken away from him but it is an irrational fear.  It is a repeat of Stiles being afraid of Noah not loving him or Lydia dying on him.   He has a deep-seated insecurity about loss. 

Stiles has excellent deductive skills and good instincts.  He also has good reasons to be paranoid.  My problem with the show is how the production treated his hypervigilance as either a valid tactic or comic relief.   My problem with fandom is how they treat his hypervigilance and paranoia as justified

Stiles intuition and deductive abilities cannot be dismissed, but that doesn’t mean he’s always right.  Scott never dismissed it, but fandom acts if he does.  Scott asked for proof, which he should have with a person who has problems with hypervigilance and paranoia.   

When, exactly, did the Hales die?

Inspired by the discussion on @halekingsourwolf ‘s blog about Teen Wolf timelines, I got kiiiinda into figuring out when exactly the Hale fire might have been set. 

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So yeah, Teen wolf wiki has Deuc being blinded in fall of ‘03, right after Derek turns 15, Jennifer happening in spring of ‘04, and then Kate and the death of the Hales happening in January of ‘05 (referencing the webisode that suggests it went down during the Wolf moon, which was Jan 25 in ‘05, claiming that born wolves have massive reunions/celebrations for that full moon every year, thus explaining why everyone was together), right after Derek turns sixteen… so it would have been just over six years since all that, when S1 starts.

But Peter’s comment is just that Derek was a Sophomore, and 15. While there are always exceptions, most folks I knew in California school systems, if they had a fall birthday, turned fifteen during their Freshman year. So I posit the timeline: Derek is 15 at the beginning of his Sophomore year, ‘03, when He and Paige start up. The shit with Deuc and the alphas and Paige’s death happens that fall, Derek has the shittiest sixteenth birthday, and Kate starts preying on him while he is exceptionally vulnerable that next semester (there’s probably some bullying/blowback/ostracization from his peers to deal with, if only because of his changed behavior, let alone any connections anyone has drawn to Paige’s disappearance and death, not to mention his mother’s distraction with pack politics and hunters, and him having gone from top-of-the-world to fuck-all self-esteem wise… plus, y’know, crushing grief and guilt). Kali attacks Jennifer that spring (2004), Talia is even more preoccupies there, and Kate makes her move sometime before the end of the semester, since Derek and Laura were presumably at a school function/practice/etc instead of home when the fire happened. This also Lets Derek and Laura be two years apart in school if she’s a senior, which I like better. Also lets her graduate (although, what a shit-show that probably was. Holy shit). And then it’s a full seven-years-and-a-summer before they come back and S1 starts (which would make him 23 when we meet him, instead of 22) (or, if you prefer, move all the years up one, duec attacked in 04, jennifer dies in 05, shorter time Derek and Laura were gone… or make Derek younger, make Paige happen his freshman year when he is 14/15, and Kate happen either that spring/summer he’s 15 or during his sophmore year, maybe, at 15/16).

This ignores the webisode/Wolf moon breadcrumb, which attempted to explain why all the Hales were gathered together, but unless it was, like, a lunar eclipse, which it was not, why would they have been inside the house, instead of out running with the moon? I would expect a moon celebration to involve, y’know, being under the moon.

I would argue that there doesn’t need to be a reason that they were gathered, at least, not beyond the fact that there were lots of dangerous things happening in the territory at that time. Maybe it was just a meeting to deal with that. Maybe it was a pretty regular occurrence, during times of strife like that, and so it was predictable. Hell, maybe they were in the house planning something for Laura’s graduation??? This is also suggesting that they didn’t all live there???

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However, if you dig the Lunar Eclipse theory, do you know when there was a lunar eclipse? A total Lunar eclipse? That might explain the Hales gathered together someplace defensible? Like the Alpha’s house? 2004. 2003-2004 feature a tetralogy of full lunar eclipses, two a year, one in spring and one in the fall. On May 4, 2004, there was a total lunar eclipse, but it was not visible in California. And then there was another on October 28, 2004. The October lunar eclipse was visible from all of North America (if any of y’all were into baseball at the time, this is the lunar eclipse that took place during a a world series game, the first time this had happened, and was the world series where the Boston Red Sox won for the first time in 86 years, ending the curse of the bambino. ;) trivia!) . The penumbra started about 5pm in California (if I’ve done my math right), partial started at 6:15, Total at 7:23, and by the time of the greatest eclipse at 8:04, the Hales would already have been dead, since the canonical time-of-fire seems to be about 7PM.

But, if we assume the moon has some effect on you whether you see it or not, then I like the May 2004 moon. Even though it would be on the wrong side of the planet, the penumbral eclipse would start about 10:50am, with the greatest eclipse being at 1:30 PM… and the whole thing is done by 4:09 pm. But what if the goal is not so much having the wolves powerless as together?  Because… I have a theory/headcanon/plot bunny about eclipses.

We know that the wolves lose all their wolfy powers during the short window of the full eclipse… but what about the rest of the time? What weird/new thing happened right after a full eclipse, probably still during the partial or penumbral part?

Scott breaking through an Ash Barrier. (which, I know, isn’t the only time he’s done it, but what if the eclipse stuff helped?) 

So what if the hunters have figured out, and are desperate to never let the wolves know, that during the eclipse, yeah, they’re weaker but also sometimes they’re immune/resistant to weaknesses they normally have?

Were that the case, hunters would want to be very careful going after wolves on lunar eclipses because, if you screw up the timing like Jennifer did, you might wind up missing the “powerless” window and landing in the “pissed off, wolfed out, and mountain ash only works some of the time” window… which, hey, may be where the canonical “rumors” and speculation about wolves getting more powerful on lunar eclipses comes from.

So the October moon might not have been the best one, esp since they didn’t need to weaken the Hales, just get them together.

And on the evening/night of the May moon, the “danger” from their “weakness” would have passed, as far as they knew, they would be feeling safe (and from the hunter’s POV, they would be safely vulnerable to mountain ash once again), but they would likely still be together in the aftermath of a “dangerous” moon, and strategizing over the hunter issues and the alpha pack issues.

They’d feel secure.

And that’s when Kate would strike.

6

I know some people have been disappointed with the blink-and-you’d-miss-it sterek scene in 4x11. Fret not my friends, more is coming in 4x12, of that i am certain. But short as this scene was it was actually a thing of beauty..

Now strap on your shipper goggles! Enter Stiles - look at Derek and how he hesitantly turns towards them. And not just Derek - also his reflection - it also moves towards stiles and and moves “out of the frame” towards him. And above Derek’s head a single light bulb is shining - Derek’s getting a clue. He’s seen the light. Actually ryvetted4 has a much better gif of this - check it out.

Next Stiles asks what happened here. Check out his body language. He does his best to act cool under the circumstances - i mean his dad is right there with him for christ sake! He looks to Derek for answers.

Derek looks hesitant. Uncertain. His whole body screams of awkwardness. He’s also looking at stiles. Notice how Braeden is blocking them and how we never get them in the same shot for close-ups. She’s cock blocking :) And that is not a happy face!

Braeden continues to act standoffish and hostile. Derek is still awkward and shifty-eyed. The light bulb is still by his head.

Stiles fumbles, acting like a spaz. The phone rings, breaking the weird mood. Scott has been taken - they have other shit to think about - feelings will have to wait.

Shipper goggles off. Okay, even without the sterek lenses on, i still find this scene very interesting. Primarily because of Braeden. She’s very defensive, she’s looks geniunely pissed when the stilinskis walk in. Why?

Is it because she’s something and stiles has a very finely tuned spidey sense that can spot that easily. Is it because he’s the only one Derek ever really listens to? I don’t know - but i do know that Braeden does not look happy with this new development.

And if i remember correctly the only other time they have interracted was in Mexico.

wait a fucking second. you know what I just thought of? how fucking great it would have been to have Isaac and Liam on teen wolf at the same time. like goddammit can you just imagine:

  • like when Liam is showing everyone up at lacrosse at the beginning Isaac just fucking decks him to knock him down a peg 
  • Liam takes the bite, Isaac laughs at him while helping Scott hold him down, but then he gets real for a second and tells Liam “yeah, it hurts and for a while it’s really hard to control but it gets easier, Dumbar”
  • (don’t you try to tell me for one second that Isaac wouldn’t love calling Liam “Dumbar” he’d think it was hilarious and clever and it would annoy Liam so fucking much)
  • Liam develops PTSD symptoms after facing off against the berserker so Isaac invites him to chill at the McCall house more often and admits to Liam that he has PTSD too from his dad’s abuse and he understands how hard it is, but it’ll be way harder if Liam doesn’t let his friends help him
  • hardcore big brother-little brother relationship
  • Isaac is the one who dares Liam to wolf out and run around beacon hills naked
  • when Mason gets brought into the group Isaac is like fuck yeah lets rip on Liam together and Mason basically falls in love with him lives for it
  • Isaac brings up Liam falling in a hole pretty much every day at school stupid loyal wolf puppies who are both obsessed over Scott McCall and are constantly competing to be president of his fan club 
  • Mason tells Isaac about the whole Hayden things and how Hayden basically hates him so Isaac tells Liam that he once ended up dating a girl who stabbed him “like 20 times with knives- I mean, chinese ring daggers” so it’s never totally hopeless
  • Isaac Lahey and Liam Dunbar ending up best friends and brothers and saltmates together like wow (ノ◕ヮ◕)ノ*:・゚✧
“You fall in love more than once” - Melissa McCall

I think this quote more than anything represents the pairings that Teen Wolf presents. The characters get together and break up in new configurations all over the place showing us that relationships are temporary, especially during our formative years.

For the purposes of this meta I’m going to ignore the nu!pack and only go with Stiles and Scott’s class and above. I will be getting to Sterek, but first let’s go through the relationships we’ve had so far.

  • Scott/Allison - Scott’s first relationship where he ends up being a bit too controlling in some cases. Allison breaks it off and although there is still attraction between them, she has no intention to get back together with him - even if she had lived.
  • Scott/Kira - Scott gets a bit better, but like with the full story of Allison’s mom’s death, he keeps important information from her about her fox that she deserved to know. Kira leaves to better understand and control her powers.
  • Scott/Malia - Up next
  • Allison/Isaac - Allison’s rebound from Scott. Probably wouldn’t have lasted in the long run, but sadly Allison died.
  • Lydia/Jackson - The power couple with problems and true caring underneath. Jackson left for London.
  • Lydia/One night stands - Lydia owns her sexuality and moves on from Jackson
  • Lydia/Aiden - Although Aiden may have initially been told to use Lydia as leverage against the pack, Lydia turned it around and made Aiden change for the better. Long term prospects probably weren’t great even if Aiden hadn’t died.
  • Danny/His ex from season 2 - Off and on again relationship until Danny starts a steady relationship with Ethan in season 3A
  • Danny/Ethan - Actually a reasonably healthy relationship. Ethan comes clean about werewolves before he leaves but Danny already knew.
  • Jackson/Ethan - Up next? Implied but not solidly confirmed.
  • Sheriff Stilinski/Claudia Stilinski - Rocky from her FTD and cut short by her death
  • Natalie Martin/Mr. Martin - Divorced
  • Sheriff Stilinski/Natalie Martin - One date. Pretty awesome for Linden and Susan to play opposite each other as they are married in real life (1986).
  • Melissa McCall/Rafael McCall - Divorced, although Rafael isn’t as bad as we were initially led to believe.
  • Melissa/Peter- Peter trying to get to Scott
  • Melissa/Chris - Present
  • Chris/Victoria - Her death thanks to anti-werewolf prejudices
  • Peter/Corinne aka The Desert Wolf - WTF Peter, WTF Talia, and WTF Corinne
  • Derek/Paige - Paige died from a failed werewolf bite forced on her by Ennis. She asks Derek to mercy kill her to spare her the pain.
  • Derek/Kate - Kate committed statutory rape at an absolute minimum, murdered Derek’s family, as well as emotionally/physically torturing him later.
  • Derek/Jennifer - Jennifer used power gained from virgin sacrifices to magically seduce and rape Derek
  • Derek/Braeden - Casual relationship that Derek uses to get over what Kate (and potentially Jennifer) did to him, taking back control of his romantic life. Derek implicitly ends the relationship before the final battle at the end of season 4 by rejecting her weapons. Meta - Braeden represents a helpful deity of bardo in a parallel to Jacob’s Ladder. That movie in turn leads to An Occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge and the Sterek dream at the end of season 3B
  • Stiles/Heather - Almost friends with benefits before she was virgin sacrificed
  • Stiles/Caitlin - Kissed in Derek’s loft at a rave where she asked him if he was bi. Her girlfriend Emily was also virgin sacrificed
  • Stiles/Malia - Started as dub con all around given Stiles being possessed/drugged and her not knowing human social norms from being a wild werecoyote. Better consent but not always better communication after thanks to it being a first relationship for both of them. They fell apart but stay on good terms after.
  • Stiles/Lydia - Present

Only 3/25 (4/26 if you count Jackson/Ethan) of those pairings are current (again, ignoring the nu!pack). 22 of them have already ended in some way or another. Given Teen Wolf’s history with canon relationships, what are the chances that all three (or four) remaining ones are going to be endgame vs ended? They might be, but they also might not. We just don’t know at this point.

For Derek and Stiles, the longer Jeff keeps them from being a couple the less we need to worry about him breaking them up. If he had gotten them together sooner and kept them together he’d have to make a special exception instead of treating them exactly the same as all the other relationships listed above.

The best-case scenario would be showing Stiles and Derek entering into a relationship (or implying it) towards the end of the last episode. This way Jeff knows he isn’t bound by treating them the same as the other couples and knows he can’t upset fans from doing something wrong with their relationship after they get together. Instead it would be completely up to fans to decide what their relationship would be like after the show.

Another possibility is to end the series with everyone single and let all fans determine which pairings they want to take place post-canon. This lets shippers avoid angering other shippers over breaking up a couple that was endgame in canon.

I do think that what Teen Wolf does is show multiple possible pairings to choose from so we can pick the ones we want to explore. If we find one (or more!) that strikes our fancy but don’t like how the show did it we’re more than welcome to diverge from canon to explore our ideal versions of that relationship. After all, that’s part of the whole point of fanfiction - exploring all the “what if’s” that we come up with.

The whole talk of an ancient evil in Beacon Hills makes me think of the Druids. Lydia says they have opened a door into another world, what if its the spirit world and now the old Druids have seen the supernatural and humans are out of balance, the Druids job is the keep a balance, and so far in Beacon Hills we have Werewolves, Werecoyotes, Werejaguar, Banshees, Chimeras,  Löwenmench, The Wild Hunt, Kanima, Kitsune, Nogitsune and then humans and hunters.
You can see how uneven that is and to a Druid they will need to find a way to balance that and I think this is where the deaths come in. 
Druids do not care about killing innocents if it means keeping the balance, we seen Mrs Morrell casually telling Stiles to come see her so she can end his life before the nogitsune takes him over. I don’t think any of the Druids will lose sleep over a few more added to the body count if it means rallying the humans into joining the hunters taking down the supernatural. 
More hunters means more supernatural beings will be killed and the more killed means more of a balance between humans and the Supernatural.

It would also tie in to the Druids being the first to show the werewolves how to switch back into human once they were transformed, if now they will be the ones who end the supernatural population in Beacon Hills.

Teen Dad Peter Hale

Holy shit, idk why this literally just occurred to me.
•But Malia is like 16/17 when she’s found.

•The Hale fire happened like 7/8 years ago when Malia is found.

•Derek was 15/16 when the fire happened

•Peter was in his early twenties at that point (according to flashbacks; all except for the flashbacks to the actual fire which have Ian Bohen instead of Michael Fjordback)

Conclusion? Peter must have been around 16ish when he got Corinne pregnant (which means she was around that age too).

Idk y'all I’m feeling some kind of way about this. And other ppl probably already figured this out, so it’s old news, but holy shit. I’m probably not explaining my thought process jumps well. Sorry. But I mean…

Talia stole Peter’s memories of his kid? She tried to convince Corinne having a kid is a blessing? She takes the baby away once it’s born (to protect it, supposedly). All while Peter and Corinne were teenagers and she was in a position of figurative and literal power??

I need fic exploring this STAT.

anonymous asked:

Hi! I'm on anon bc I mainly worry about that sort of thing, heh. Besides this, I'm asking about, specifically, Sterek - in the sense that I don't really ship it myself, and I wanted to say that regardless of this, and that you do - your blog is brilliant. In general, your posts on the TW fandom and the various ships within are perfect and I agree 100%. Mainly, I'm asking about the sterek, or more specifically Stiles/Derek from actual canon tw, because I could never see anything other than (1/?)

Derek being physically aggressive towards the younger and weaker (in the sense of physical strength) human - a person in a position of power over another abusing that power. In a sense. Since, whenever I watch the show I can’t help but see that, I was hoping you could either explain in that great way you usually do that makes things make sense, or at least point me in the direction of posts that have already done so, how exactly their friendship developed(because, yes, I don’t think I could(2/?)

ever ship it romantically). Mainly I’d just like to see another’s less biased point of view/take on their dynamic, so as not to alienate a serious amount of my fanfic readers despite the fact that it’s probably gonna end up as Stalia(oh the horror, that gets like 0 reads ever)I don’t want to sideline any characters that are important, such as Derek, and when I watch the show I can never get his character and his dynamic with Stiles down in my head because it’s screaming at me not to like him 3/?

And I hate that, because I never like to despise a character without good reason to; I don’t want to misrepresent the dynamic, I have to repeat, when I get to later seasons. It’ll also help me understand him more, I think, and I hope you don’t mind this ridiculously long anon ask, oops. I’m on anon mainly bc of a worry of this being received negatively, as I’ve seen this sort of query being done in the past for related topics. Ehrm, that’s it, thanks for reading this even if you don’t answer.4/4

Derek is pretty violent with everyone, including Stiles, in the first two seasons. Fandom has taken this violence and projected sexual tension onto it to justify the ship, but if we’re going to count every instance of violence as belligerent sexual tension, then everyone on this show has foe-yay with everyone else.

The thing is, Derek was trying to do the right thing - he just didn’t really consider things like collateral damage or value of life in the process. When Scott was Bitten, Derek did try to help Scott learn to control his wolf…it’s just that he also lied to Scott about a potential cure for lycanthropy in order to manipulate Scott into helping him. Neither of these somehow negate or undermine the other.

Similarly, in Season 2, Derek felt responsible for the kanima, and thus wanted to kill it before it could kill anyone else. The problem is that he wasn’t considering the life of the human who was the kanima without knowing, and he was jumping to conclusions and nearly killed the wrong person (Lydia) because she might be the kanima. Derek wanted to build a pack, and ended up dragging three new teenagers into the mess, two of whom would still be alive if he hadn’t. But, they were also extremely isolated before they were in a pack, and never seemed to resent Derek for turning them, even when (in the case of Boyd, at least) it got them killed.

Derek tries all the time, and tries really damn hard. He also fails all the time, and fails really damn hard. Most of that failure all traces back to tunnel vision - he gets so focused on one problem or factor, he never really thought about anything else. Isaac called him out on this in Season 3A - Derek was wallowing about Cora’s life and Jennifer’s betrayal, which meant he was forgetting about all the other stuff going on that needed to be dealt with.

Derek also tended to presume to know best in the first two seasons and diving head first into problems. A lot of his development in Seasons 3 and 4 was taking a step back to think through the circumstances, and/or taking guidance from those around him. Whether he was the alpha and taking guidance from his betas (i.e. following Boyd’s plan against the alpha pack, listening to Isaac calling him out, etc.), or when he was a beta again but following others’ leads (following Scott as an alpha, taking proverbial marching orders from Allison in 3B, following the Sheriff’s lead and Braeden’s lead in Season 4, etc.), Derek always did better working with someone else instead of trying to lead on his own.

To put it another way: Derek really sucks at being King Arthur, but he makes for a fantastic Merlin.

Derek was a wonderfully supportive and empathic individual. Because he struggled with being an alpha, he was a confidante for Scott when he struggled to be a (true) alpha. Derek went from tunnel vision, brooding, and wallowing in the first few seasons, to learning how to use “human” self-defense mechanisms in Season 4 when he realized he wasn’t healing and seemed to be losing his lycanthropy (and his strength and senses with it). IIRC, he never just sat down and listened to someone pour their heart out on him in the first two seasons, yet Season 3 opens with him doing exactly that, and this is something he continues to do throughout the rest of his time on the show.

I’ve said before that “quiet” =/= shy or introverted. Derek is never the kind to talk a lot in the show. In the first two seasons, this manifested as him doing things without really telling anyone or talking to anyone about it. Later, this manifested as him listening to people. He didn’t have to change this part of who he is, he just learned to be more empathetic and productive about it.

Derek’s story also plays into one of the central themes of the show. The werewolf symbol of revenge is the spiral, but here’s the thing about spirals: if they aren’t stopped, then they’ll go on forever. Derek could’ve kept pursuing vengeance for his family, but chose not to, and came out better for it. This is highlighted by the nogitsune in 3B, when Derek is infected by one of the flies. Yes, Kate was already dead, but Kate was one person and his family was way more than that. He could’ve kept going, he could’ve murdered Allison and Chris just because they were Kate’s family (the same way his family died just for being werewolves/in a werewolf pack), and the nogitsune nearly pushed him to do that. But instead, Derek ended the spiral of vengeance, recognizing that Allison and Chris had nothing to do with Kate’s murder, and how different they were from Kate (regretting their own participation in Hunter psychosis, trying to change the family motto and M.O., etc.)

Derek’s story is very much one of someone grieving tremendously and suffering from horrific trauma. But, it’s also one that shows that one’s own trauma can end up hurting those around them (the fact that Derek was traumatized and suffering for the first two seasons doesn’t change the fact he engaged in a lot of manipulative and abusive behavior at the time). And, Derek’s story is the process of recovering from grief and trauma, and learning to let go of anger in pursuit of one’s own well-being.

How this relates to Sterek in particular, I’ve written about here and here, and feel free to ask if you have any more questions on it. :)

And here are some fics which capture Derek’s character really well:

See You on the Other Side - Derek doesn’t swoop in and save the day - but he does help Stiles, and he learns to share with Stiles and take help from others.

The Nightmare of My Choice - Long-distance relationship FTW.

Starts with “F”, Ends With “U” - Fantastic way of Derek using his own experiences to help Stiles with his current abuse, and a great exploration of Derek’s trauma that doesn’t tokenize it or reduce his abuse to stereoptyes of what abuse actually entails.

In which I make some character comparisons between Buffy, Supernatural and Teen Wolf

Note: Sam and Dean Winchester are each listed as both the Chosen One and the Everyman, because they arguably personify both roles. But if you want specifics, I’d contend that Sam is the Chosen One from S1 to S3 and the Everyman thereafter, while Dean is the Everyman from S1 to S3 and the Chosen One thereafter.

@athenadark, consolidating everything into one post:

“I’ve seen the interview, several times in fact
i can find it for you on youtube if you haven’t
she asks hoechlin the question”

she asks

she asks

she asks

Since you apparently haven’t seen this video in quite a long time, here it is for you:

Question starts at 1:26, though if you watch before that, Hoechlin himself seems stoked for the character arc that most of fandom ignored after 3B.

Andy Swift: …if none of the ladies work out for Derek - I know the fans are rooting for a little Sterek action. How do you guys - what are your, what are your thoughts on it? ‘Cause I know that it’s like - fandom is fandom - but like, how do you guys feel like that, how…?

Posey: “I think Sterek is a bizarre, twisted, weird thing-”

[off-screen laughter from Roden and Hoechlin]

Posey: “-and I think anyone who pays more attention to Sterek than the show isn’t watching the show for the right reasons.”

Swift: “That is concise…”

[more laughter from Roden and Hoechlin, followed by Swift]

And a moment later, Hoechlin is the one who bluntly describes Stiles and Derek as partners in crime and that Derek in Season 1 would’ve happily just killed Stiles to get rid of the situation.

Tyler Posey, meanwhile, never once called the fans bizarre and twisted. He called out the fans for focusing on another fandom entirely when talking about the show (because Sterek is, in Hoechlin’s words in this interview and others, a fandom unto itself that doesn’t really have to do with the show).

all you can do is look at what you’ve created and say i am content with that, that did what it was supposed to do, you’ve put the clues in place, you’ve polished the candlestick, leaving it out for mrs peacock in the parlour and poisoned the tea for colonel mustard

No, actually.

We, as authors with 100% control over our fanfic and no accountability, can do this.

Writers and producers who have to answer to MTV and are accountable by money and ratings, however, are not.

Writing a novel =/= writing a TV show (which is also why you can’t analyze a TV like it’s a novel)

right now with the evidence we have in canon it’s not going to end well for you - but you’re so convinced it’s going to pander - perhaps that’s you think that Scott is perfect, a deus ex machina in a green jean jacket, because that’s the only way he’ll get a happy ending

I know my Asks aren’t long, but surely I’ve said enough that you don’t need to twist them like you do canon and put words into my mouth in order to find something to condescend to me about?

you’re a writer too - follow the clues,

That’s just, I am following the clues - the one in the actual show. Because I don’t take the stance that half the show isn’t really happening because POV or bias or whatever literary analysis device that only works with written media. I don’t buy that just because a character can lie about something means they always are. I don’t buy that half the show isn’t happening while stuff fandom comes up with is.

I’m going by what’s actually shown on-screen, and what’s said by the characters, and how the actors are playing those characters. Stiles and Derek are friends in show. They aren’t anything more than that, and one of them isn’t even in the show anymore and the other one is only barely in it if at all.

I am following the clues. I’m just not making any up to support my ship.

You’re claiming “the show isn’t going to put on a gun on the wall and then call it dangerous at the last minute”. I’m saying, you’ve mistaken a shadow of a hand in a shooting motion for a gun and been manufacturing your own ammunition for a metaphorical weapon that doesn’t exist ever since.

The partners in crime dynamic is wonderfully fertile ground for the ship. Fandom doesn’t need to keep erasing the work all these actors put into this show in order to make that ship happen - yet that’s what it did.

And then acted betrayed because the show kept doing what it was always doing, and building on top of prior seasons, instead of retconning and erasing most of the show in order to bow down to fandom.

anonymous asked:

do you know what nolan is holding in that cap of him running from lydia?

I don’t know if he is holding anything, at first it looks like he is, but its just his bag strap. 

see it there? Its on the right side of him

but now it’s gone

I thought at first he was holding something to his chest, but it seems its the same top he is wearing when he attacks Corey

I said before something gets him in the library (HERE)  and when you lighting up the top pictures of Nolan running you get this. It’s the same clothes he is wearing in the library, I guess this is the scene after he wakes up, it’s still dark outside too and you can just make out the red hoodie

But when the brightness goes up, you can see there’s something there on his arm, like a big rip in his sleeve? Like something did get him.

To be honest, I don’t think Lydia is actually here in this clip. Some other people have said maybe Nolan is a banshee and whatever bit him, or got him woke his powers up, kind of like what happened to Lydia and now he is seeing her because they are both banshees. 

In the trailer he is running away from her, its only about 2 seconds so hard to see if anything else happened here, but here it looks like he is running away from her. 

Somebody should also tell Nolan its not a good thing to ever go into the school after dark. Bad things happen. 

Seriously, why does no one ever bring up the fact Isaac literally dug Kate Argent's grave?

The worst thing about losing Isaac after Season 3 of Teen Wolf is that he wasn’t around in Season 4 to tell Kate that he already dug her grave once and he’d be happy to do it again - or to put her into the one she already belonged in.