I love how Reylo is considered “abusive” when, at the time of the interrogation scene, they have no relationship to speak of?
AND YET. NO ONE TALKS ABOUT THE FACT THAT KYLO REN, AKA BEN ORGANA (SOLO), IS A TEXTBOOK EXAMPLE OF AN ABUSE VICTIM.
Snoke has groomed and conditioned and manipulated Kylo from a young age – possibly since the fucking womb, according to the “Life Debt” novels – isolating him from his family, making Kylo solely dependent on him and his wisdom and basically brainwashing him into being his loyal servant… HOW DOES THIS NOT RAISE ANY RED FLAGS FOR ANTIS, BUT THE NON-RELATIONSHIP THAT IS REYLO DOES?
Also, where is the outrage regarding Darth Vader/Anakin’s relationships? The man who force-choked his pregnant wife, forced his daughter to witness the destruction of her planet and cut off his son’s hand. You know. That guy. I mean, according to anti-logic, this teaches kids to forgive their abusive parents.
But no. Somehow Anakin gets a free pass and is regarded as one of best examples of a redemption story in cinematic history, but Kylo Ren doesn’t. Kylo Ren doesn’t deserve a redemption arc even though he’s already a much more fleshed out character than 99.9% of the villains in these films.
On a similar note, all Han and Leia do throughout the original trilogy is bicker. Is THAT abusive?
Also, I’m a tad irritated that people make Rey out to be this delicate little flower because anything Kylo dished out in TFA, Rey threw right back at him tenfold. Does that make Rey abusive?
Furthermore, and I cannot stress this enough, but not only do Kylo and Rey not have a relationship (romantic or familial or otherwise, at least at the time that they met) but they’re on opposite sides of a war.
There is a difference between abusive and adversarial.
Honestly, it’s like some people just don’t know how hero/villain dynamics work. What do you want them to do? Talk out their problems or…?
Lastly… can people just get off their moral high horse and stop policing what people can and cannot ship?
I really enjoy the works of Lewis Carroll. His teaching logic and how language works through fantasy is fun and very entertaining. One of the linguistic tools Carroll invented was portmanteau words. For those not familiar with the concept, you take the sounds of two words, blend them together to make a new word that combines the meaning of both. For example: “motel” is the combination of “motor” and “hotel.” In pop culture, you see portmanteau being used a lot when it comes to celebrity relationships-Brangelina, Bennifer, Spederline…are all portmanteaus of the names of celebrity couples. One of my recent favorite portmanteau words is “hangry,” hungry + angry. When you get really irritable because you are hungry. “Hangry” is a great portmanteau. Reading the online comments on my article, “On Rural America: Understanding Isn’t the Problem,” and some of the direct messages I’ve received on Facebook, there seems to be the impression out there that I’m angry. To be honest with you, “angry” alone doesn’t truly capture how I feel. I’m more than angry. I also very frustrated. I’m frangy. My anger is almost always a product of being frustrated. Right now, I have a lot of reasons to be frangry.
I’m frangry that America elected a sexist, racist, bigoted con man as President. I’m frangry this is how progressives chose to repay Barack Obama, the most progressive president since FDR, for everything he’s done for them. I’m frangry conservatives have no moral compass and will do anything to win. I’m frangry progressives bring a tambourine to a gunfight when it comes to politics. I’m frangry at every single so-called progressive who sat on their ass in 2010 allowing the Tea Party to take the House and a lot of state legislatures and every single horrible fucking thing that has been a consequence of this. I’m frangry at conservatives who donated to, supported, and voted for Donald Trump and then have the balls to tell me they don’t agree with his racism/bigotry/sexism. I’m frangry at progressives who pout and whine when their unicorn isn’t delivered in time or when it is, bitch it isn’t the exact right shade of teal. I’m frangry at people who wear their stupidity as a badge of honor. I’m frangry at people who are eager to take health insurance away from the people who need it the most. I’m frangry at people who voted for Trump and are now bitching he might take away their health insurance. I’m frangry at progressives who bought into and passed along right wing lies and conspiracy theories about Hillary Clinton. I’m frangry at progressives who didn’t rally around the Party’s candidate because their candidate lost the primary. I’m frangry at progressives who voted for someone to be president who couldn’t win a city assessor race if she ran unopposed (Jill Stein.) I’m frangry at progressives who voted for Gary Johnson, someone who makes Jill Stein look like Madame Curie. I’m frangry at anyone suddenly who has “buyer’s remorse” now that the reality of Trump being president is setting in. I’m frangry at white conservatives for their racism or their willingness to overlook racism. I’m frangry at progressives for not being a true ally for minorities when they needed them to be the most. I’m frangry that the progress that took years to attain and was earned with the hard work, blood, sweat, and tears of progressives of the past will now be massively rolled back and have to be fought for again by people who can’t be bothered to enough to spend a few minutes in a line at the polls. I’m frangry at people making excuses why they didn’t do the right thing when it mattered. I’m frangry at white people acting all butthurt and oppressed. I’m frangry at white people telling me they are tired of being “picked on” and “humiliated.” I’m frangry at white people in general. I’m frangry at people who treat voting as something that only affects them. I’m frangry at people who say stupid shit like, “Choosing the lesser of two evils is still choosing evil,” and “I have to vote my conscience.” I’m frangry at anyone who said, “I’m all for a woman president, just not this woman.” I’m frangry at progressives who, when the chance to not only stand up for and protect their minority base but push women’s rights to whole new level, didn’t. I’m frangry that Trump being president and every single horrible thing that is going to come of it could have been easily avoided. I’m frangry too many so-called “progressives” still believe their political strategy of purity is the way to go. I’m frangry at every single hot take about how Dems need to understand, reach out to, and sympathize with Trump voters. I’m frangry that I feel some compassion for the people who have voted against their own interests for decades. I’m frangry our media cares more about profit margins than facts. I’m frangry most people get their “news” from Facebook. I’m frangry they don’t have the mental tools or the desire to figure out whether something they read/see is correct or bullshit. I’m frangry at James Comey’s going against every FBI tradition and inserting himself into the election. I’m frangry at Bernie Sanders for dragging out his campaign long after it was mathematically dead. I’m frangry at Bernie for pushing the “rigged election” line that was not only bullshit but helped solidify a mistrust and apathy towards government when what we need the most is faith and involvement in the system. I’m frangry at Hillary for doing events in California the last few weeks instead of Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania. I’m frangry at the Democratic Party for not getting rid of Debbie Wasserman Schultz after the 2014 midterms. I’m frangry at myself for thinking Americans were not stupid enough to elect someone as unqualified and self-centered as Donald Trump. I’m frangry at people who tell me democracy is the greatest thing since Jesus but who do everything they can to make sure people either can’t vote or make it voting as difficult as possible for them. I’m frangry at Berniebots who demanded Hillary produce her Wall St. speech transcripts but were all “Meh” when it came to Bernie’s tax returns. I’m frangry at progressive purists whose moral calculus is so fucked up they honestly believe someone who will vote with them 80% of the time is just as bad as someone who will never vote with them. I’m frangry people are intellectually lazy and would rather believe they are right than actually be right. I’m frangry the truth is being ignored, taken out back and drowned in a shallow pool of fetid water, and given a back seat to feelings. I’m frangry Supply Side Economics hasn’t been buried in a shallow grave. I’m frangry easily manipulated emotions like fear and hate are used to make big decisions that affect millions. I’m frangry more people aren’t frangry about all these things.
Based on what I’ve seen so far from the far-left, the far-right, the Trump team, the media…I’m going to be frangry for awhile.
Sherlock teaches Rosie Chemistry(He gives her his periodic table of elements that's hanging in his room as a birthday gift.), Molly biology, john first aid, Mrs. Holmes Maths and Mycroft teaches her logic.
Oh, I love this one! Especially the bit about Sherlock giving her that framed picture. I can just see that having a special place in her room, and her taking it with her to uni and even maybe putting it in her own home later.
Fun Fact: The 72 Gundam Frames in Iron Blooded Orphans have all been named after The 72 Demons of the Ars Goetia as of late. They each also have different ranks, abilities and represent different things
Barbatos- is an earl and duke of Hell ruling thirty legions of demons
and has four kings as his companions to command his legions. He can
speak to animals, can tell the future, conciliates friends and rulers,
and can lead men to treasure hidden by the enchantment of magician.
Gusion- is a strong Great Duke of Hell, and rules over forty (forty-five according to other authors) legions of demon.
He tells all past, present and future things, shows the meaning of all
questions that are asked to him, reconciles friends, and gives honor
Kimaris- He is described in as a godly warrior riding a black horse, and possesses the abilities of locating lost or hidden treasures, teaching trivium (grammar, logic and rhetoric) and making a man into a warrior of his own likeness. He holds the rank of marquis, and is served by 20 legions
Astaroth- is the Great Duke of Hell, in the first hierarchy with Beelzebub and Lucifer; he is part of the evil trinity. Also seduces by means of laziness, vanity, and rationalized philosophies
Ok, I’m a bit tired of hearing that Sarek and Amanda are bad parents, so let me explain you a couple of things.
Both Sarek and Amanda decided to raise him following the vulcan teachings. Logic over emotion. Different ideals that cannot be compared or even understood by human standards.
We know that Spock’s childhood was horrible. He was bullied by the other kids, he had no friends except for I-chaya. Amanda had to restrain herself to comfort him emotionally because that’s not the vulcan way (I’m sure it was very painful for her). Spock sometimes disappeared and spent hours in the desert because he needed solitude. Once, he even hacked the computers of his classmates for pure vengeance! Yes, a flagrant display of human emotion… but you know what Sarek and Amanda did? they praised his computer skills.
When Spock decided to join Starfleet, Amana told him that she was going to support him no matter what he wanted to do. Sarek reacted in a different way. Sarek told him that if he finally joined Starfleet he would be banished from his home. Sarek was trying to scare him because he wanted to protect his son. If Spock went through all that hatred in his childhood, Sarek feared that he was going to suffer the same treatment living among illogical humans. And Vulcans are pacifists, and in Starfleet he was going to hold a gun sooner or later and maybe take someone’s life. I’m not saying that Sarek is the best father, of course not! but he was trying to apply his logic to this situation, because is what he had to do.
After all, Spock joined Starfleet, Sarek expelled him from home (he actually thought that Spock was going reconsider it, but he didn’t, so Sarek held firm to his principles) and you know what Amanda did? she abandoned Sarek for a whole year. A year… until Sarek’s father died and T’Pau called Amanda to ask her if she wanted to accompany her husband to the funeral. She finally came back and they never talked about what happened. During that year she lived with her parents and she kept in touch with Spock to make sure he was fine.
In journey to Babel we can see that the relationship between Sarek and Spock is very deteriorated but Sarek is in fact proud of him. He can’t admit it, but he is. Spock saves his life, not before putting his duty before his father. And some people are mad at Amanda for how she reacted? Like, his husband was dying (even if she’s human, I’m sure she was feeling it through the bond) and his son refused to help him. Do you really think se wanted to slap him? She wanted to reach the human part of him, she was desperate! After this episode their relationship improved, maybe not a lot, but it’s something.
When Spock died, Amanda told Sarek that Spock must have found a way to transfer his katra to someone, Kirk. Sarek immediately went to Earth and that’s how they knew that Mccoy was the recipient. Later Amanda was put in charge of the re-education of Spock and she never tried to make him suppress his human part. Sarek again tried to keep Spock away from Starfleet (his son was alive and he wouldn’t allow him to risk his life once again). But remember that conversation Sarek and Spock had after Kirk and his crew saved Earth? Sarek admitted that his son chose his own path and, after all, it was a good decision… Spock had good friends and he was feeling fine.
Years later, Amanda was dying and Spock went to see her for the last time (Jim and Mccoy accompanied him). Sarek was required to conduct some negotiations, as the vulcan ambassador he had his duties, and those negotiations were really important. The lifes of millions of people were in danger… even if his wife was dying he couldn’t refuse. Finally, Amanda died alone. Spock was there with her but she was in a really bad condition to notice his presence and she tried multiple times to call Sarek. She kind of did it through the bond, but she’s not telepath, she was really sick and Sarek was really far… it was very difficult and for days Sarek believed that he hadn’t been able to say his last goodbye to his beloved wife (Spock also made him believe it… because he was angry with him for abandoning Amanda). And think about it… who also put his duty before his personal life? oh, right, Spock. So he understood that he had to forgive his father, because he did the same once.
Sarek married again years later with Perrin. Spock couldn’t accept it (no one was going to replace his mother) and again, their relationship weakened. There are also some other things that affected it (like the cardassian accord, and Spock becoming the vulcan Ambassador to Romulus). But Sarek admitted (when he melded with Picard) that he loved Amanda and Spock. He loved his son. Sarek died of the Bendii syndrome while Spock was in Romulus.
Now try and tell me that Sarek and Amanda were terrible parents… they obviously made their mistakes but so did Spock as a son.
“Logic!“ said the Professor half to himself. ”Why don’t they teach logic at these schools? There are only three possibilities. Either your sister is telling lies, or she is mad, or she is telling the truth. You know she doesn’t tell lies and it is obvious that she is not mad. For the moment then and unless any further evidence turns up, we must assume that she is telling the truth.”
you get a long winded, ranting email from a parent last night, complaining that you give far too much homework and are expecting too much, and that her daughter went to bed in tears because there wasn’t adequate time for her to finish her work. Then you have to explain to the mom that her daughter was chatty all day and didn’t finish the class work that everyone else did when expected. AND THEN to have the daughter bring these to you these this morning and explain how she made them for you and more for others in the class when she got home, and “it took a really long time.”
Wouldn’t it be awesome if parents checked into what their kids were doing before unleashing on the teacher??
I used to teach formal and rhetorical logic. Let me clarify an apparent misconception you have.
“I’m being logical here and it’s not my fault you don’t understand basic logic” is not a valid logical argument.
If a student of mine ever attempted to support an argument with a vague reference to “logic” in general, they would get a zero.
If you’re ever asked to show your work in math class, and were asked to show your work, you probably couldn’t get away with just writing “because that’s what math says.” You also probably know that simply declaring “because that’s what math says” doesn’t make you any more likely to actually have the right answer.
Logic works the same way. You are not the arbiter of what’s logical any more than you are the arbiter of how math works. You may have gotten lots of praise when you were a kid - may even be still getting it now - about how you were good at math or logic, especially if you’re seen as being in a group that’s stereotyped for no good reason as “good at that sort of thing” (e.g., seen-as-male, autistic, white/Asian, or some combination of those). But strangers on the internet do not give two shits about whether your high school teachers thought you were clever, and many of us are probably better at this stuff than you are.
Using general appeals to “logic” in an argument is lazy-ass bullshit, arrogant, and completely disrespectful to the people you’re arguing with.
The more times you mention the word “logic” in your argument, the less likely I am to believe that you have any idea what you’re talking about, either in terms of actual logical principles or the subject matter you’re trying to discuss.
Sincerely, a tiny femme who is fed up with your shit.