super 17 saga

Los hermanos juntos otra vez, pelearán en el torneo del poder. 

Espero que peleen como equipo ya que se conocen muy bien por ser gemelos. 

¿Creen que sean capaces de no perder? 

 Después de mucho tiempo estoy emocionado por ver al androide 17 aparecer en el anime otra vez, si lo utilizan bien posiblemente se vuelva de mis favoritos.


Brother and sister reunited at last will fight in the Tournament of Power. 

I hope they fight as a team because they know each other very well because they’re twins. 

Do you think they’re capable of not losing? 

After a lot of time I’m excited to see Android 17 in the anime again. If they use him well, he might become one of my favorites.

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Just another derpy thing I sketched. Cell saga Veggie is such a jerk.

At some point, I’ll actually use my Wacom again and do real art, but phone sketches are all I have the motivation for right now.

I am so glad to have Android 17 back.😍 Gosh its been so long since Ive seen him on the screen. Good memories.😊 Ever since I read the small article about 17, the park ranger gig and the whole 17 is married with 3 kids, I admit I was like “WTF?!“😲 In a happy/shocked/confused. Android 17?! The murderer of Dr. Gero and 18’s twin brother is now a park ranger, husband and father?!?! 18, I can understand but 17?! Hell I wanted him to have a ounce of humanity but gosh-damn!😕And researched the hell out of this too and here is my thoughts. This is going to be long post but hell this is worth talking about. I would love to heard my fellow 17 fangirls too because I love their thoughts too.😘

Ok, Confession time: I lost faith in DBZ ever since they aired the Super Hell Fighter 17 saga. I hated GT after that. Before the Super 17 saga aired, I thought the rest of the GT was so damn boring and cringe-worthy (Due of the “Forgettable-But-Not-That-Forgettable” Baby saga. There were so many problems in GT I rather forget and thank god, GT is not canon. A friend recommended me to watch DB Super because this show is supposed to fix the problems for the last episode of DBZ before toddler Pan and then he recommended me to play Dragon Ball xenoverse games. So I did because hell it was my childhood.

Then the starting of Universe Survival saga and I saw one character whom I thought will NEVER get the fair shot he deserved: Android motherf***king 17.😁 I admit I fangirled like crazy because I missed him and I think he deserved better than that bullshit they pulled in GT.

Android 17 wasn’t really evil. (Future 17 is evil, yes.) but if you think about it, Android 17 killed one person and that was Dr.Gero. 17 was a teen with human lifestyle but the man ruined his life and created him to be a rebellious and reckless killing machine. 17 got his revenge against Gero and it was the end of it. He fought the Z fighters and beat them up with 18 but they didn’t kill them. They let them live and told Krillin to give them Senzu Beans possibly to challenge them next time. Hell, if 17 wanted to kill Goku so badly, he would fly all the way to Goku’s location and ended him there. Instead 17 and 18 drove for days possibly because 17 probably was a car lover or vehicle expert in his human days before he was kidnapped. I think 17 wanted to challenge Goku for the thrill of it to see if the greatest Super Saiyan who killed the red ribbon army can fight the ultimate android (little did our rebel know, he wasn’t the “ultimate android.”) After all, this was just a game to him. 17 never got that chance to fight Goku and was absorbed by Cell.

What do you think happened after 17 was absorbed? Was 17 traumatized by the experience inside of Cell? Did 17 sees everything that went on from inside Cell’s eyes during the Perfect Cell saga and Cell Games saga? Maybe I’m looking too deep into this but it is worth bringing up.

It was thanks to Krillin and the dragon balls that Android 17 has a chance to redeem himself. We didn’t know what happened to him after the Cell Games. During the Kid Buu saga, we finally did see 17 (one scene) as his cocky self but we know that he isn’t doing anything bad besides helping Goku with the Spirit Bomb. That’s the last time we saw him.

*Sighs* then GT…yeah F**k that show. Yeah it was hot seeing two Android 17s but it didn’t cut it. Anyway since it is not canon, I’m not going to bring my feelings towards it.

Now we all know that 17 was a cocky and self-absorbed little dick but loveable as hell (why the hell he carries a gun but he never uses it?😂 Well, since he is a park ranger, guns will play a bigger role in his life) but there was a need to changed 17’s development. He went from a cocky and self-absorbed rebel to a matured, serious and zero tolerance type of guy (no mess with nature). When I noticed the change of this personality, I thought it was a big step but understandable. I admit I was surprised enough when Akira admitted that about 17’s job and is married and has kids. But his personality surprised me. Maybe I was used to 17’s childish personality but since he is a dad, maybe that childish tendencies passed down to his kids. Anyway, I think Android 16 and Android 18 might influenced 17 during their short period time together during the two sagas. They played a bigger part in his life despite the fact 16 is dead and 18 married Krillin.

16 was quiet, nature-loving and somewhat caring despite his programming of wanting to kill Goku (I know, it sounds weird when I put it like that) but he abandoned his mission after 17 and 18 got absorbed by Cell, seeing that not even 16 can kill Cell. This ended 16’s life. Maybe 17 saw the outcome of his death through Cell’s eyes but we, the audience, don’t know. Because of this, I think this changed 17. Because of 16, 17 wants protect the environment. He knows Goku and Z fighters can handle the villians like Buu. He prefers to be alone like a “Lone wolf” and likes the Solitude. Even I think the Solitude life suits him.

Then we got 18 and Krillin. They both fell in love, got married and had cute little Marron (born four years after the Cell Games). Maybe 17 envied the life that 18 has now because of what he is. For all we know 17 probably thought no human woman in her right mind would fall in love with a Android or let alone have any kids with him (“I WOULD!” said some cheeky fan girl😍).

Somehow, his personality woo his zoologist lady.

Okay, we don’t know if Marron is older or younger than 17’s kid and two adopted kids. But this is my headcanon: the two adopted kids are older than 17’s kid. We still don’t know and I could be wrong. It has been 7 years since the Cell games. Maybe 17 thought there was no way he can reproduce with a human woman so instead they adopted first and then the couple “tried” to do the deed and realized she can get pregnant by him. Thus 17’s kid is born (please let it be a boy! 😣. I don’t even mind if its a girl. That would mean fanarts with 17’s daughter with Pan, Marron and Bulla😆. But honestly if its a boy, would it be so cool if 17’s kid had his father’s orange bandanna?) But I digress.

Anyway, since 17 has a family, maybe 17 wants to prove himself that he can better himself and train in the woods.

Now the fight with Goku v.s. Android 17. Isn’t this the fight that 17 wanted years ago? We finally got it. And 17 didn’t act like his usual self in the past due the fact he has indeed changed. The 17 we once knew would be like “I’m the ultimate android” Macho/alpha male brag but since he is a changed man, 17 didn’t brag. He is no longer that weak android who couldn’t defend himself against Cell anymore. It is possible that 17 is stronger than Perfect Cell.

We all know 17 wanted to challenge Goku from the moment he was released by Dr. Gero but he never got that change. It’s been years and 17 didn’t go look for Goku. He might have known he was no match for him (16 admits he is as strong as imperfect Cell and 17 saw their fight together before he was absorbed). 17 knew he stand no chance against Goku but he did wanted to prove himself useful one day.

He even was able to have a nice conversation with Goku and shown him a photo of his family. Wow that is something!

Like Son Goku and Vegeta, Android 17 has something and someone in his life to protect more than his own. 17 doesn’t want to think himself as the ultimate android he wanted to be in the first place. He just wants to be strong enough to protect the environment and the family he loves most. Maybe the fact that 17 never talks about his life as a park ranger and a family man is too embarrassing because of what the z fighters might think of him (although I doubt that but if you were a Z fighter, and you just found out that android 17 is a family man with a wife, three kids and worked as a park ranger, you say “NO F***ING SHIT WAY THAT TRUE!” Maybe he wanted to keep the whole “I got a reputation to protect” attitude despite the fact he doesn’t hang out with the z fighters.

We don’t know but it is worth thinking. We all know 17 will join the z fighters for the tournament and we will see more of what the android is capable of. And so do I. I love to see his reunion with 18, Marron meeting uncle 17, and introduction of 17’s family (cross your fingers😥).

I honestly can’t wait to see more of him in future episodes. 😆

Originally posted by bird-studio