How to Discuss Allowance With Your Sugar Daddy

Ah, the sugar baby allowance. Even the most experienced of us can find ourselves getting squeamish when it comes to talking money with a potential sugar daddy.

Here are our top 10 allowance tips to help you get what you want gracefully and effortlessly.

1. Get Comfortable Asking

The most important step to getting what you want is asking for it. We all know this, but hey, it can be so uncomfortable to ask for money.

If the thought of asking for what you want makes you a little queasy, take the time to make yourself comfortable with it before you begin talking allowance with potential sugar daddies.

We recommend this little exercise. Practice makes perfect, so rinse and repeat ’til you can state what you want without so much as an eyelid bat.

2. Allowance Après Date

This is such a simple, yet effective, means of negotiating allowance: Don’t discuss it on your first date with a potential sugar daddy. Concentrate all your first date efforts solely on impressing him wildly.

A genuine, interested sugar daddy will bring up the allowance on his own. If he mentions it during the date, take it as a sign that he’s definitely interested, smile and tell him that you’d like the first date to be focused on simply getting to know each other.

Suggest that if he’s interested in an arrangement with you, he could call you to talk about the allowance after the date.

This simple move immediately does a few things for you:

Sends the potential sugar daddy the message that you’re more interested in a suitable arrangement than money. And that little message also sends another message: that he cannot control you or gain your interest with his money alone. This makes it easier for you to discuss the terms of the relationship, set boundaries, and negotiate your allowance.
Makes it clear that you are nowhere near desperate and while you are interested in him, not overly so. This lack of overt interest gives you more control of the sugar relationship from the get-go.
Plus, utilizing this tip lets you take advantage of the next allowance tip…

3. Take Advantage of the Phone

Unless you’re really, really comfortable asking for what you want – you might prefer the distance of the telephone over a face-to-face discussion.

As they say, 93% of communication is non-verbal. If you’re not completely confident in what you’re asking for, the potential sugar daddy might be able to glean that through your expression, your hand gestures, your body language.

On the phone, however, all you need to control is your voice. Inject it with confidence and prepare to discuss allowance.

4. Know Your Options

Your sugar daddy might already have his preferences on how to give you your allowance, but it’s still a good idea to get to know your options.

How often do you want to receive your allowance? Weekly? Monthly?

How do you want to receive your allowance? Cash? Pre-paid credit card? Monthly bills paid? Read more about popular methods to receive a sugar baby allowance here.

There is no right or wrong answer to these questions – it’s just important that you know your options and go with what is most comfortable for you.

5. Do Your Research and Know His Range

Sugar daddies hail from various professions and income brackets. Before discussing allowance with your sugar daddy, do your part by researching what his range might be.

What’s the average income for someone in his profession in the city you’re living in? Is he an employee or does he own his own company? Does he have a family to support or is he single? Does he own his home or does he rent?

You can often find all this out by actively listening to the things he says as well as putting Google to good use.

Based on what you estimate to be his earning potential, you will know the reasonable range he can afford. Plus, you can weed out the men who are promising certain allowance amounts but clearly cannot afford it.

According to Seeking Arrangement, the average sugar daddy in 2013 earned a little over $270,000 and the average sugar baby allowance in 2013 was a little over $60,000.  That comes to sugar daddies paying a little over 20% of their income toward their sugar babies (hey, we’re actually cheaper than US taxes). That’s a reasonable estimate of what you’re sugar daddy should be able to provide you and what you can expect from a sugar daddy.

Calculate his reasonable range and then negotiate.

6. Forget Ladies First

A genuine, interested sugar daddy will usually bring up the topic of allowance by asking you what you want.

If you’re not totally comfortable with stating your amount first, forget the whole “ladies first” thing and ask him for his range first (‘though you’ll already have an idea based on your research). The easiest way to do so is to approach the topic indirectly by asking if he’s had previous arrangements. Ask how they went, what the terms were, how the relationship was, and what the allowance arrangement had been.

If he hasn’t had previous arrangements, keep in mind that people are more inclined to answer an uncomfortable question after being asked a range of more comfortable questions so start out the discussion by asking your potential sugar daddy questions like, “What does your ideal arrangement look like?” “How often do you want to meet me?”Continue asking questions about the arrangement and then pop in the question of what allowance range he’d be comfortable with.

If he low-balls you, when you know his range can very reasonably be higher, rebut with something like, “Oh, I was thinking more like $x,xxx.”

7. A “Yes” is a Given

When negotiating allowance, assume that he’ll give it to you.

When he asks you for the allowance you want, tell him simply and matter-of-factly: “I’m thinking $x,xxx.”

Keep a smile on your face, maintain eye contact, and say it as naturally as you would tell him what you’re ordering off the menu. Your amount might seem high to you, but remember that SDs have probably heard it all: girls asking for $10,000+, cars, etc., so you reasonable allowance range is probably not that surprising.

Don’t low ball yourself. Ask for what you want.

8. Remember: You’re Just Getting Your Due

This is a key point that all sugar babies must remember at all times: Asking for allowance is NOT asking for a handout.

You’re negotiating an allowance for a number of services being rendered to your sugar daddy.

And sugar daddies may be a lot of things, but they are not financially stupid. Your potential sugar daddy is not giving you an allowance out of the kindness of his heart. He is getting something valuable out of it. He knows it. You should too.

You listen to him talk about work. You make him laugh. You remind him of his youth. You are there for him physically, emotionally, mentally. He’s not doing you a favor by giving you allowance – he’s reciprocating for how you make him feel. This is no small service – people spend the majority of their money to be made to feel a certain way. It’s a considerable service so don’t ever spend any of your energy feeling bad about asking for whatyou want.9. Your Allowance = Your Money

Some sugar daddies might express shock or surprise when you state your allowance range. Some will even ask you what you plan on doing with all that money, as if you need to justify your allowance to them.

You don’t have to.

An allowance is not a handout. You’ve earned it.

Can you imagine a potential employer asking you what you’re going to do with all that income you’re earning at their company? Of course not. That’d be preposterous – once the company pays you for your services, it’s your money. Not theirs.

Same thing with the sugar allowance. You don’t need to justify the amount you’re asking for. Don’t talk about your debt, your bills, etc. – there’s no need for all that. He’s asking you how much you require and that’s all you need to say.

If he asks – don’t tabulate anything, don’t justify anything. Say something simple and sensible like, “A girl’s gotta save, you know…” and end it with a smile.

In our experience, if a potential sugar daddy keeps on asking why you would needall that money – chances are, he’s not going to make a great sugar daddy to begin with as he simply doesn’t understand that by providing him a service, you have every right to spend the allowance that you earn any way you want.

10. Prepare to Say “Next”

Some sugar babies may disagree with us on this one, but we have this rule: If a potential sugar daddy does not agree to the allowance asked for (which is reasonable and within what we know is possible with his income range) – politely end the dinner and cross him off the potentials list.


In our experience, men who understand your value as a sugar baby are willing to pay for it. They know you’re worth it. They want what you have to offer. And like companies who want to recruit the best talent, these sugar daddies are prepared to give you what you’re asking for.

These men make better investments in the long run because they already know you’re worthwhile.

We don’t recommend ever begging or trying to convince any sugar daddy to give you what you want. If he doesn’t already see you as a worthwhile investment, he’s not going to be a great sugar daddy anyway.

And by settling for less than what you want – you’re not going to be happy enough to keep him happy. It’s a two-way street. Your needs must be met. The good sugar daddies know this. They show it by giving you what you want.

Bonus Tip: 11. There are Exceptions

At the same time, sometimes you’ll run into a potential sugar daddy who you have a great dynamic with…but he does not make enough to give you the ideal allowance.

In those cases, we’d say: go with the sugar daddy you like even if his allowance is a little bit lower than ideal. An enjoyable arrangement comes from more than just allowance.

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Sugar Tip #3

When speaking to a POT earlier today, he asked what my allowance expectations were. I told him, he agreed, but added:

“I’m reluctant to hand that sort of money over in one go, so I’d like to do a PPM arrangement while we build trust.”

More often than not PPM is not going to be worth your time and is a tactic used by splenda and salt daddies alike. 

Never the less I smiled sweetly and replied:
“Of course - I’m happy to have platonic PPM dates while we get to know and trust each other.”

This is a great counter move; if he’s saying he doesn’t trust you enough to give you your allowance in full at the start of the month (which is understandable!), it’s unreasonable for him to expect you to trust him enough to be intimate with him. 

He’ll either accept your terms or run to the hills, either way you haven’t lost anything.

With Love And Money

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Genre: Smut, Fluff 

Warnings: Daddy kink, spanking, D/s themes, i think that’s it

Words: 8k 

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Managing Splenda Expectations

While we all dream of one day meeting that mythical SD that can offer us $10k/month with presents and travel and mentorship and support, the truth is there aren’t many of those to go around. They’re called the 0.1% for a reason. 

What there are a lot of though, are kind, generous, wonderful potential Sugar Daddies - with limited budgets. These men are genuine about spoiling you, and for a lot of them, they would give more if they could - they are the perfect SD in all but budget. Right now, realistically, $500 or $1000 a month is all they can offer.

Now, if that doesn’t work for you, it doesn’t work for you. Don’t push them to spend more than they can afford. That just leads to unhappy SDs piling a bunch of expectations and pressure on you to justify their overspending. 

But if you’re thinking “Hey, yeah, $1000 a month from a man whose company I enjoy is nothing to sneeze at” - then it just becomes a question of making sure everyone is on the same page with expectations. 

Where things can go a little wonky is when these men with $1000 budgets want $10k worth of your time. They want to see you several times a week, and text all day, and plan trips with you, and it can be difficult to set limits on that without outright saying “I want $x/hour, and if you have $x spend, you get that many hours” - that can be uncomfortable for everyone involved.

I ran into this uncomfortable conversation a time or two, and I didn’t always handle it well. But after a couple hits and misses, I developed the following short response that adjusted “$1000 for a couple of meetings a month and weekend trips” to “1 weekend a month and some pictures”

“In the same way you have a financial budget to work with, I have a time budget. I have a lot of really ambitious goals that I am working towards, and I need to make sure that I’m investing my time in ways that best support me. I really enjoy our connection. And it’s important to me that this arrangement be mutually beneficial, and doesn’t involve either of us overextending ourselves. I hope you can respect the amount of time I have available the same way I respect the amount of money you can spend”

6 stages of becoming a Sugar Baby

Every sugar baby’s journey through the bowl is different; however there are a few stages to becoming a sugar baby that nearly everyone will experience. I’ve outlined some of these below:

 1) Researcher baby

You’ve read a book, seen a documentary and reblogged more ‘how to’ guides and tumblr tips than you can count. You feel inspired and have an insatiable appetite for learning about this new found lifestyle.

The thing is no matter how much research you do, it will never be enough. Each person you meet will be different and will come to the table with a unique set of requirements and expectations for their arrangement.

Sooner or later you’re going to have to take the plunge; go slow, be safe and be prepared to learn the hard way.

2) Naïve baby

The naïve optimist has done some research and made the decision to dive into the dolce head first. They have set up a profile on a site like Seeking Arrangement and feel overwhelmed by the amount of responses they get.

Their zealous enthusiasm to get started often means they sell themselves short and accept low ball offers. Common utterances from the naïve optimist include; “£100 for a night of sex? – Count me in!” and “£1000 to meet ten times a month? – OMG, sounds great!”

It won’t take long until these people become disillusioned by the bowl and adopt a more practical approach.

3) There’s more to this than sex baby?

At some point every sugar will realise there’s a lot more to the lifestyle than simply spreading your legs and moaning a bit.

The main difference between escorting and sugaring is that escorting is primarily sex based whereas sugaring involves the entire relationship experience for the time you spend together.

These men want to feel loved, desired and cared for. You’re there for his convenience, his ultimate fantasy girlfriend; a confidant, companion, masseuse, chef, therapist, stylist, secretary and of course lover; he doesn’t want PMT and a gluten intolerance!

This can come as a bit of a shock to the system and is made immeasurably harder if you don’t genuinely enjoy spending time with your daddy.

4) Burn out baby

The lifestyle is stressful! Don’t believe me? Think about it; there’s the duplicity and lies you’re telling people, constantly maintaining and cultivating your sugar persona and minimising any hint of reality, making time to balance your sugar commitments as well as your everyday life, not to mention dealing with all the flakes, fakes and time wasters that continually crop up.

There’s no such thing as an ‘off’ day, you’ve got to forget your stresses and focus on your daddy and making him feel like a King; this can be exceptionally draining if you’ve got other things on your mind.

There will come a point where it gets too much and you’ll burnt out. You’ll walk away from the bowl and vow you’ll never come back. I’ve done it, and all the other sugar babes I know have reached that point too; most of us have returned but not everyone…

5) The real deal baby

You’ve found an arrangement that works for you, life is sweet!

6) Nothing lasts forever baby

Sadly, nothing lasts forever, even the sweetest arrangements will end eventually. You’ll be left to decide whether you can face going through it all over again…

When asked if I wanted intimacy with an arrangement, this is what I replied with:

“Not at first, I’d say. I’m more interested with getting to know someone on a deeper level conversationally. I love meeting new people and being a companion to many. After awhile if things continue going well, I might consider adding intimacy to the relationship.
I wouldn’t feel comfortable with intimacy being expected right away since I’m still a stranger to you and you to me. I also work in healthcare so there are a few more things I take into consideration before deciding, hahah, for the safety and health of the both of us. (:”

My potential Sugar Daddy was extremely impressed with me for saying this. It shows that I care, truly care, and it shows that I’m different than a number of Sugar Babies that he’s talked to. His reply, “I’m impressed with your maturity and honesty. I’m glad you care about both of our healths.”


Don’t Be So Mundane and Predictable

Personality, Character, and your Persona speaks volumes even when the lips on your face are not moving.


POT: Can I get some more pics?

You: I would love to send more pictures, but/unfortunately/however/therefore…(you just lost him) because he stopped at the transitional word that means no without saying no.

Decent Response: (insert his name here) Thanks for messaging me back, I really appreciate it. The weather is going to be great this week. Let’s schedule a meet up for lunch at (insert 4/5 star restaurant, location, and date here) or dinner at ( insert 4/5 star restaurant, location, and date here). I would really like to meet you! We can confirm each other’s identity, enjoy a fantastic meal, discuss the details of an arrangement with one another and move forward! So what do you say, (insert choice 1) or (insert choice 2)?

This allows you to get a feel automatically if he’s worthy of your time, let alone additional photos. You’ve cut to the chase, got right to the point and letting him know that your time is valuable and you won’t waste it taking pictures to send to him or anyone else for that matter.

Make sure you choose 2 different restaurants as a choice of lunch or dinner, but make sure that they are not far from each other. No more coffee or drinks “quick meets”. You are not meeting your classmates to study nor your friends for happy hour.

Know your worth and challenge him by telling him without really telling him the kinds of places you like. It’s [2015] and technology is improving as I type this. Skyping is too risky for recording reasons, “additional” photos could hurt or harm you. If he’s married, he could lie to his wife and tell her you are the aggressor and won’t leave him alone and he’ll have the pics to prove it. If he’s not married he could be using your pictures to lower other girls’ standards or get them to send him more photos too.

Original source: honeebabee.

Sugar Tip #391

Going on endless POT dates can be extremely tedious, sometimes it’s tempting to cancel and rearrange for another time…

Please don’t! 

Take a deep breath, nail a smile on your face and remember that you won’t achieve your goals by sitting alone in your room binging on Doritos and Netflix.


A genuine Sugar Daddy is going to have plenty of other offers, he doesn’t need to give you a second chance. He’ll perceive you as a fake or a flake and move on to another baby who is more reliable.

In the early stages I dread to think how much I missed out on because I couldn’t quite be bothered to turn up for the initial meet and greet. I was complacent and acted like my time and compensation were the only things that mattered. It wasn’t an attractive attitude.

Sure, the majority of POT dates will end up being a disappointment, but you’ll never know unless you try!


So I met this POT two times after speaking to him on SA. At first, he seemed very nice and genuine. I was happy to meet someone who came off as truly caring. As you can see from the conversation, he asked me what I desired after the first date because I kept telling him I can’t really trust him yet. He had not brought anything to our first date, which I understand we owe one another nothing at that point. He pushed me for my real name and other information about my private life that I felt uncomfortable sharing, but he insisted on getting it because he “had to know who he would be investing in” for the future, after I had asked for an allowance of 3-5k/month. I should have stopped things there. Unfortunately, I had given him the benefit of doubt and trusted his intentions. 

We met up for our second date a few days after the 1st. We had wine to begin with, and I arrived first, so I got us a table. (That’s the context of the first text). We had a wonderful conversation over some wine before moving onto the second location, a sushi restaurant.

Up until now, he was still very respectful and amicable. I felt as though maybe I could trust him. He kept introducing me to all of these people he know at the restaurants (he lived in Austin for 20 years or so), and seemed like a very generous man. Still, I was unsure to let someone get to know so much about me under the circumstances we met. 

We took a rideshare to the restaurant because we both drank and in the backseat, he handed me the 600 as promised. I told him thank you and he said of course. While we were eating our dinner and having more conversation, he kept telling me how much potential I had, how he can see me so successful, and etcetc. Then, he asked me “are you looking for someone to help you or someone to take care of you?” and I said, the latter. He disagreed, saying that it would not last long and etcetc. I could feel that he was basically setting me up to say no, he wouldn’t give me the allowance I desired, but he could hire me instead, and stuff like that. (He owns an IT company)

I felt like that would be a good deal, and thought maybe we could trust each other more. But I still needed some time. I am a very private and skeptical person, and have been done wrong and taken advantage of several times in my life, so you can see why I was hesitant to trust this man, despite everything he showed me. 

We had some more sake and took another rideshare back to the wine place where I had parked. I told him I could take him home, because I was pretty sober and didn’t drink very much. He agreed. I took him home and he invited me to sit on his porch and talk. I sat and we started talking, and he started prying more into my life about my family and what they do, and etc. I felt extremely uncomfortable, because I don’t even share this kind of information with my friends. I told him I didn’t feel comfortable sharing this information with him and he said “Well, then get the fuck out of here, because I don’t need this shit in my life!” and I felt like he was kind of joking…? but I really did feel uncomfortable and I didn’t like being pushed, and he had been pushing for more information all night. I can take steps, but you can’t ask me to just take a leap like that on the second night!

Anyway, so as soon as he said that, I paused, and then I said “Ok. Thank you for your time.” and I got up and left. I got in my car and drove home. I thought maybe he would text me asking to talk it out, or at the very least apologize for being so rude or prodding me too much. Instead, he texted me about getting back the money he had given me over 2 hours ago. 

And as you can see, the texts escalated. He called a few times. I picked up once. He said to return the money and start being honest. He told me that he would report me for prostitution. Me and him held hands like two times. Nothing else. How was I a prostitute?? I have been honest. I have not done a single thing wrong. He gave me the money as a gift. I know that he has all the connections in this city, but I don’t care because I believe I did nothing wrong.

The last text he sent me calling me “Flutter” was my facebook name. He found my facebook. Thankfully, I use a different email for that and tumblr so hopefully he won’t just track me down. I deactivated my facebook, instagram and venmo. I feel so violated and wronged, guys. I am so horrified of this man, not because of what he might do, but because of how sincere he seemed and came off, and how he is actually not at all generous and how I fell for it all. I thought I was smart, but I learned again that I just need to be cautious. Please spread the word. His name is Mark Lanteigne, that number is his real number, and he is the owner of the company called Third I/O. He is NOT a real SD. PLEASE do not get your privacy violated or harassed like me. He is bald and wears glasses, has a goatee. about 5′5″.

If I can, I’ll post pictures of him later. 

anonymous asked:

I wanna start sugaring so I was wondering if you could give a low down on all terms like POT and what to expect? Thank you!!

POT- potential sugar daddy
SB- sugar baby
SD- sugar daddy
Salt daddy- a man who pretends to be a sugar daddy, but is actually broke and can’t spoil you
SA- seeking arrangement, a sugar daddy dating site
Splenda daddy- a man who tries to spoil you, but doesn’t have enough money to be a sugar daddy

This is all I could think of at the moment, if there’s anything I missed please add it!!

POT Spotting

I’ve thrown together a quick guide on the different ways you can go about sex work. This guide includes different approaches, what they’re most suitable for and some of the benefits and drawbacks.

Seeking Arrangement

In my opinion this is the only sugar website worth joining. You probably won’t find a multi-millionaire Sugar Daddy, but there’s a reasonable chance of bagging yourself a Splenda Daddy. Use seeking arrangement if you’re new to the sugar bowl and want to get a feel for it or if you’re experiencing low sugar levels and need a quick fix.


Salt central – the chances of finding serious money here are about as likely as winning the lottery. Why have I included it? Craigslist remains a useful place to sell photos, worn panties and other similar things.


Tinder isn’t particularly good for finding potential Sugar Daddies. Most men don’t know what sugaring is and are taken by surprise when asked how they feel about it; this leads them to become defensive.

Depending on your style you can use tinder for two possible things:

1) The direct escort approach – you won’t be given more than a few hundred and you won’t be treated like a sugarbabe. It will be a simple exchange of sex for cash.

2) The spoilt girlfriend approach – if you don’t mind playing the long game and are satisfied with fancy restaurants and the occasional shopping trip or spa break, this could be the route for you.


The best way to attract a serious Sugar Daddy is undoubtedly freestyling. In other words – getting out in the real world and putting yourself in situations where you’re likely to meet rich, affluent men!

Freestyling is best done with a couple of like-minded friends, but if you’re super confident you can go it alone. Just ensure you don’t look like you’re touting for trade otherwise you will be thrown out of the establishment.

It can also get expensive – especially if you don’t meet anyone.

What are your favourite methods for finding Sugar Daddies?

~ KittensPeach ~

Don't Judge a Sugar Daddy by What He Drives

You meet a potential sugar daddy and you notice that he is not driving the newest Mercedes-Benz, Audi, or BMW. Instead, he is driving just an average car. You think to yourself, “This guy doesn’t have any money, he’s a fraud!”. Well not so fast.

A smart sugar daddy will know not to buy a new car. Why? Because cars are depreciating assets. Which means when you buy a $80K car, the following year the car will be worth say $70K, then drop to $60K and the keep dropping every year till it’s basically worthless. Instead of losing money on a vehicle, a smart sugar daddy will invest in the stock market or real estate. Where he can keep his $80,000 and have his assets or stocks grow in value thus making him richer.

Now, lets say that you meet a potential sugar daddy and his profile claims that he makes hundreds of thousands a year and his net worth is in the millions. He is well established and gloats about his wealth. If he drives a below average car then that should be a red flag. He is a potential fraud and he may not be as rich as he claims to be. If he drives a car with some rust on it or if it’s damaged (in other words a “beater”), then you should probably start looking for someone else right away.

Keep your Sugar Daddy dating profile SHORT.

You want to keep your sugar daddy dating profile at 2 paragraphs max. You don’t want to give too much information. A sugar daddy will not want to read about your entire life story. Too much text scares off potential sugar daddies and they are quick to hit the back button and move onto the next profile. You want to keep it short to keep a potential sugar daddy curious enough that he wants to message you and learn more about you.

Here are some examples:

Good Profile

Bad Profile

Terrible Profile

Sucking Too Hard on  a Lollipops

Summary: Phil Lester was the head of a multi-billion dollar pharmaceutical company. Dan Howell was a broke college student. Both are in need of a little love. 
Word Count: 1,218
Warnings: age!gap, sugar daddy/sugar baby
A/N: i actually had to go on a sugar daddy website for this. thanks and sorry to the profile i based dan’s off of.

Phil Lester was a successful businessman. At just twenty-eight, he was the head of one of the biggest pharmaceutical companies in the modern world. He had maids and secretaries and multiple cars and a huge mansion and millions of dollars coming in every day to support his affluent lifestyle. The only thing missing from Phil’s life was a partner. He was lonely, and that loneliness was the reason from the buzz that had just came from his laptop.

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Practice Makes Perfect

So I’ve told you guys before I’m a bit of a nerd when it comes to reading and researching sugar stuff. I love it. I can’t get enough of it. I couldn’t recommend it more than I already do. And of course, I love sharing my tips with you all.

Tonight’s tip is about practice. In many of the dating and sugar books I’ve read, the stress practicing your story or approach or flirting techniques on guys you would never date so that when you do encounter a potential sugar daddy either from a website like SA or organically, you’re prepared.

But in most of these books, they don’t tell you WHO to practice with. If you’re like me, you’re the type who doesn’t want a lot of guess work when it comes to all this stuff. I like specific websites, links, restaurants and bar names, pick up lines. Whatever. I like things spelled out for me. So who do you practice your sugar techniques on?

This idea just came to me and I’m writing this in the back of my Uber right now…practice on your Uber driver! If you take Uber on a fairly frequent basis, this is a great way to practice speaking, talking, telling your story, flirting. Uber drivers tend to be good listeners and some especially talkative. If you’re going to spend a few minutes in the car with someone, you might as well utilize every minute.

Hope you guys enjoyed. Happy sugaring.

Your Application Has Been Unsuccessful

Consider the position of an employer looking to hire new staff. This is basically what the process of meeting a potential Sugar Daddy is like. The reasons most Sugar Babies fail to achieve finding an arrangement is often not for the reasons they typically assume.

Here are the top 7 mistakes that can make your profile more of a miss than a hit.

Poor Communication Skills

Picture this: a Sugar Daddy sees your profile and thinks you might be the one he is looking for. He messages you, but to his dismay, receives only a short answer. A few generic and meaningless words if he is really lucky.

Not only does this reflect bad manners, it is also positioning you as a poor communicator. If you are serious about finding an arrangement that works to your benefit, then charm the potential Sugar Daddy. Members aren’t going to chase you based on merely asking for the benefits of an arrangement.

You Aren’t Serious About Sugar

Do you truly want to be a Sugar Baby? Or did you think it might just be fun to see what it’s like to reap the benefits of an arrangement? Be honest with yourself. Are you realistic about what it means to be a Sugar Baby? Displaying initiative during the discussion phase shows that you are serious and have mutual interests in mind.

More importantly, responding to questions honestly and consistently proves that you are sincere. Replying to messages once a week or less does not instill confidence in the man you hope will offer gifts — or an allowance. Try to keep in mind what the potential Sugar Daddy wants, and is willing to spend. A mutually beneficial arrangement will not work unless you  both want the same things.

Poor Profile Presentation

Avoid mentioning that you think you aren’t capturing the attention you feel you deserve due to your race/age/body shape etc.

First impression complaints set a nagging tone regardless of how beautiful you are. Also try to avoid “I” statements and leave out the part about how you want to be spoiled — it is on virtually every profile. This just makes you sound greedy and look even worse if you fail to mention what you are bringing to the table.

Show some personality. If you think you have a good sense of humor then demonstrate that quality in your profile. If you say you are intelligent, then make sure your profile flows and contains the element of intellect you are professing to have… and there better not be any typos or grammatical errors!

Asking the Wrong Questions

Get to know a Sugar Daddy. Interest is often lost on women who ask about allowances before the first date even takes place. This aspect of an arrangement takes time, so take things slow and don’t expecting too much upfront. Its also advisable to avoid asking about gifts on first meetings and generally behaving like a “Prima Donna.”

The first meeting is meant to be fun and light-hearted. If the introduction feels like tireless effort, most Sugar Daddies will walk away.

You Lied

Avoid sharing photos of you taken 10 plus years ago. This is something older Sugar Babies do quite often. There is no point in coming clean about it after meeting or after chatting. You have obviously lied, and the damage is done. The same applies to your age or any other details.

Be consistent and truthful about what you are sharing. Although we all embellish a little to make ourselves look closer to our idealized best, there are some embellishments that cross the line.

No Wow Factor

Looks will only get a Sugar Baby so far. Are you engaging the Sugar Daddy with conversation? Are you asking about his interests and sharing fun aspects of yourself? Are you responding often and not making him wait too long? Sugar Daddies will browse many women on Seeking Arrangement and the Sugar Babies who are not engaging will likely be overlooked.

Don’t Be A Drama Queen

Often a Drama Queen can be detected via skimming a profile alone. Sometimes, this personality trait can be picked up on from direct messaging.

A friendly follow-up message asking how we are doing is fine. Constantly messaging when it is obvious that the Sugar Daddy is busy, or simply no longer interested is not cool. Constant complaining and bringing up problems will likely drive Sugar Daddies away.

The First Date: 10 Tips to Help You Master the Art of the Sugar Date



The first sugar date is crucial. He’ll size you up. You’ll size him up. And you’ll both come to a decision as to whether you want an arrangement with each other.

There’s a lot going on. But that’s no reason not to have fun.

In fact, your most important priority on a first sugar date is to have fun. After all – what’s the worst that’s going to happen? He’ll decide you’re not what he’s looking for? So what? – you get a chance to try out your sugar baby charm on him while being wined and dined.

Just concentrate on having fun – that is the best impression you can make. And if it doesn’t “work out” – hey, at least you had a fantastic time.


Conversation is crucial to a successful sugar relationship. Most sugar daddies tend to appreciate sugar babies they can have good conversations with.

Brush up on your potential sugar daddy’s interests before meeting. From your emails and chats, you’ll already know what they’re into – are they history buffs? Crazy about technology? Love traveling?

Use what you know about them to get to know more before the first date. You don’t have to be an expert in anything they’re interested in – just get a general understanding so you can be an interested and attentive listener as well as ask relevant questions to keep the conversation flowing.


The first sugar date should always be at a public place. If you can – make it a place of your choice, somewhere you feel comfortable.

This should be easy since a sugar daddy will most likely let you choose the restaurant or recommend a few for you to choose from. If he doesn’t, suggest it with a “I’ve been dying to go to ___. Want to meet there?”

If he offers to pick you up, politely decline and ask for cab fare. Actually, even if he doesn’t offer to pick you up, you should ask for cab fare.


Some sugar daddies love eye-catching arm candy. But most are low-key and prefer understated elegance or casual classy to outright flashy.

Choose your outfit according to the potential sugar daddy’s preferences, if you already know them.

If you don’t – for first sugar dates, we love understated, well-put-together outfits with a hint of fun. For ideas, check out some first date sugar baby looks we love.


You might be suffering a case of nerves over the first date, but guess what? You’re probably not the only one.

Quite a few sugar daddies are nervous the first time meeting. He might be feeling self-conscious about the fact that you’re much younger than he is (and appear obviously so) or he might be downright intimidated because of your looks.

Your job is to make him feel at ease. And the easiest way to help him feel at ease is to be at ease yourself. People play off each other’s energies and your body language speaks volumes so take the time to relax yourself before meeting your potential sugar daddy.


There is nothing more lethal to a first date – especially a first sugar date – than bland small talk.

Instead of pre-prepared questions, approach the potential sugar daddy as you would an old friend.

Greet him like you already know each other: “Hey! It’s awesome to see you! How was your day?”

And launch straight into normal conversation, just as you would with a friend: “So…tell me ’bout your day…anything exciting? I, for one, would love a glass of wine. Anything you recommend?”

Smile often. Laugh more often. Maintain eye contact. And keep the conversation flowing easily, naturally simply by expressing genuine interest in his day, his life, and his interests – just like you would with a friend.


A person’s appearance and demeanor speaks volumes about them. Take advantage of the first date to suss out whether this POT is sugar daddy material.

Observe not their wallet, their cufflinks, or their shoes, but their mannerisms, their eloquence, their overall conduct.

Many good sugar daddies may not look the part, but they will act it.

Does he ask you first what you want to eat? Is he interested in what you’re saying? Is he asking questions? How does he talk about his family, his employees, i.e. the people most important to him? Does he like taking care of them and knowing they’re happy? Is he nice to the waitstaff? How much is he tipping?

These little details matter. A lot. A sugar daddy who expresses interest in taking care of those important to him makes a great sugar daddy. A sugar daddy who cares that you’re happy with dinner is going to care that you’re happy in an arrangement.

Take note of the important details.


One of the best first sugar date tips we can give is: leave the allowance talk for later.

Find out why here.


There might be a lot of things running through your mind on your first sugar date. Am I dressed appropriately? Does he like me? How am I going to pay my tuition if he doesn’t? OMG…do I know those people at that table?

Whatever it is that’s on your mind, you can come back to it later. For the duration of the sugar date, the present is the only thing that matters.

The best way to guarantee a great first sugar date is to stay totally and completely in the moment. Show interest in your date. Appreciate the yummy foods you’re eating. Laugh about things happening around you. Relish how beautiful you feel.

Everything else can wait. Don’t bother yourself – or your potential sugar daddy – with pressing worries or concerns. Stay in the moment and share only what’s positive.


An hour or two is perfect for a first sugar date – even if it’s a leisurely dinner.

Even if you’ve had a fabulous time and the dynamic is amazing – avoid staying too long. He might want to keep you out longer, he might suggest all sorts of fun and inviting things to do.

But don’t be tempted – whatever he suggests, politely decline and leave him wanting more.

A good sugar baby knows her time is precious. Don’t be giving it away before the arrangement is finalized.

Sugar Tip #854

If you’re using an online website to find your sugar daddy, there will usually be a ‘budget’ listed.

Don’t be afraid to ask him to clarify what this means to him.

For example on seeking arrangement ‘moderate’ is between £1800 - £3000 per month. So you need to find out:

1) Is he happy giving you this amount as an allowance? Not including expenses.

2) Is it the amount he’s happy to spend on you in general; including allowance, expenses, travel, gifts etc?

3) Or is it roughly his own monthly expenses? (In which case you’ll be a small fraction of that sum)

This will give you a better idea if your expectations are the same and will avoid disappointment.

Don't Give Out Your Real Phone Number

Never give out your real phone number to a potential sugar daddy or you might be hearing from him for a looooong while….. Instead, get yourself another phone number from Google Voice. It’s free. They give you a phone number for calling, text messaging, and voicemail. You can use the web interface or download an app on your mobile phone to use it.