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The Borgias + Queen: Cesare and Seven Seas of Rhye (½)

(aka remaking old terrible gifs)

anonymous asked:

because we anons are a greedy lot, how do you think the whole "cesare never leaves the priesthood" would have gone?

It interests me because of the ways in which Cesare manages to make his position work for him, not just in terms of wealth or influence, but actively invoking God, Christ, religious imagery in a way that … it’s not devout love like Rodrigo’s or Lucrezia’s, but it doesn’t come off as empty, either, a sort of cool respect for the divine. I FIND THAT SUPER INTERESTING.

(Sadly, Cesare’s position wrt religion is completely erratic in S3. I could come up with headcanons and whatnot and undoubtedly will, but I prefer the gradual arc from 18-y-o Cesare all “I have corrupted my soul with bribery” to twenty-something Cesare in full Cardinal of Valencia mode: I CHALLENGE YOU IN THIS TEMPLE OF GOD)

I sadly can’t go on as much as I’d like (*glowers at hands*), so concise version:

- Juan has to linger around, which itself alters everything

- No French marriage, but the marriage is tbh a fairly minor event in the negotiations, so we’ve still got Cesare there–as cardinal.

- Cesare’s flirtation with atheism, much more loaded!

- So, warrior-priests weren’t actually entirely unknown (della Rovere perhaps most famously, but there were def some prominent warlords who were bishops or archbishops or cardinals). Of course the show has only a passing acquaintance with history, but I think it’d be interesting to see Cesare carving a place out for himself in that mould rather than the purely political/diplomatic path assigned by Rodrigo.

- But the thing that really interests me: while Cesare obviously gains a ton of his authority and influence as cardinal from his father, he remains a cardinal in his own right, he holds his benefices personally, exercises clerical authority personally, that sort of thing. And apart from very extreme circumstances it can’t be taken from him. So when Rodrigo dies, Cesare’s position will be relatively secure as long as he doesn’t get himself murdered or excommunicated. On top of that, the cadre of Spanish and Catalan cardinals routinely fell into lock-step behind him–even after he was imprisoned they kept protesting and badgering Julius over him. So Cesare who emerges from near death as leader of the Spanish cardinals and a critical person to win over … SO MANY POLITICAL SHENANIGANS. :D :D :D