Hey, I know it's been a while since you reblogged/commented on that old thehumon post about medieval understandings of sexuality (the comic with the monk), but they don't seem to have an open askbox, and I'm interested in doing some further reading on the subject- your comment made it sound like you might have heard some stuff before. Any suggestions?
It’s been a really long time since I’ve looked at queer history stuff…
But basically this comes from classes I’ve taken or discussions I’ve had with people about their religion/history classes.
Cloister-marriages were definitely a thing among monks in Europe. Which makes sense considering that they were people who chose to go into a life without marriage to women. Yes, there are other reasons for people to become monks, but the situation is one that would likely attract queer men.
Also, from a homosexuality in the bible course that someone I know took, a lot of the anti-homosexuality lines are translated wrong specifically to be anti-homosexual (they more went along the lines of misogyny usually) or have liberties taken as to what sexual immorality means specifically (which usually means anything that isn’t specifically for procreation, within the confines of marriage). Also, marriage without sex was considered a sin as well, because christian marriage was for the sake of allowing sex to happen and to have a family (with children). That’s part of the reason why infertility was grounds for divorce or annulment.
Most of the homosexuality in the bible class actually ended up focusing on homosexual undertones between characters (up to and including Jesus).
Also notable is in Greece and Rome sexuality was considered more about top vs. bottom than gay or straight, most if not all male classical heroes and gods would be considered bisexual or pansexual, and were usually portrayed as the more dominant person. Unfortunately this also overlaps with a lot of sexual assault in mythology. Contrast that the affairs of goddesses and female heroes with women is not usually as explicit, and “virgin” goddesses were really more “unwed” than virginal in many cases, many of them would be considered lesbians (Artemis basically had a harem when interpreted this way), some asexual (Hestia had no romantic or sexual prospects in almost any aspect), some aromantic (Demeter, had multiple children by male gods, never married or seemed to have a long-term relationship).
Interestingly Greeks considered women to be more lustful than men.