Back when I wrote this post, I went completely ballistic on
Jonsa disproving every single scene except Littlefinger’s choke because that
was the only scene which made me question seriously as to why it had happened
from a logical perspective. Because LF wouldn’t have said a really stupid thing
like “I love Sansa” to Jon and not expect consequences.
However I still had my doubts.
You see if Littlefinger did in fact wanted to confirm whether
Jon had “intense feelings” for Sansa, I want to know when he realized that
there was something like this going on between them. Yes it might be possible he
might have had that epiphany off screen. But in show evidence was a bit weak in
my opinion. Was it during the talk in Godswood? Or was it at the Great hall (KITN!!,
Pardon, North is Yours)?
Now the assumption that Littlefinger could ask such a stupid
question without planning for consequences is extremely weak, but given the
nature of this season’s writing and my nature of being humongously cynical put
me off and so I went ahead and imagined all the possibilities that Littlefinger
might have thought of when he made the declaration to Jon. I believe only these 3 possibilities exist.
Littlefinger was being an innocent cat making a simple
proposition to Jon because he had helped him in war. Jon’s reaction took him
completely by surprise. (Extremely weak assumption but possible)
LF knew about Jonsa and wanted to confirm. Jon’s reaction
vindicated his theory.(Good assumption)
LF did not know about Jonsa. He just showed his ballsiness
by declaring his love forSansa, unaware of what Jon might do. (This was
possible and there was a good chance, but were there any precedents?)
Now let us consider the 2 parallels that the insp. post
discussed. Ned’s choke and Cersei’s reaction. Both of them describe and answer
the first 2 questions completely ( and to some extent the third question as
well) on how Jon might have reacted to Littlefinger’s question.
But still something was missing. Something which could
complete this theory. Answer all those questions completely in a way in which there would be no doubt that this scene was no coincidence at all.
And then it hit me.
I may have been extremely careful in regarding and
disregarding every other parallel but somehow I had missed the single most
important parallel that the show gave us in that scene.
You see the truth did not lie within the subtext, it lied
within the fucking text.
suddenly remembered how the dialogue of that scene began.
delivered his bones myself………”
And then, right there, I had found the final puzzle piece.
I then remembered the scene where LF delivered Ned’s bones
to Catelyn Stark. I remembered that he in fact had ballsily re-declared his
love for her and Cat rebuffed him in a similar strikingly threatening way.
In more ways than one Jon’s reaction to Littlefinger(
initial anger to final threat) is very similar to Catelyn’s reaction.
Both the scenes played somewhat similarly.
Cat: LF finds that the man between him and his woman is dead.
Tries to reassert his position with the woman. Woman angrily rebuffs him and
tells him he is wrong
Jon: LF believes there is no man between him and his woman.
Jon angrily rebuffs him saying that he is wrong and there is still one man
So here we have the ultimate trifecta of a Ned parallel, a
Cat parallel and apparently a Cersei parallel as well. All in the same scene. I
will also go ahead and say that the reactions given by Cat, Cersei and Jon are
the only ones in the entire show ( I believe, I don’t know about the books
however since I haven’t read them) where LF prods a little bit too much and
gets put in his proper place in a similar manner. These 3 parallels completely
answer those 3 questions irrespective of what Littlefinger thought and knew and
how Jon reacted. Irrespective of whether Jonsa exists or not. That “pointless”
scene not only mirrors Ned Stark, but Catelyn Stark and Cersei Lannister as
Now let me reiterate
We have to believe that a scene existed that had no
narrative significance whatsoever, had been given over 9000 Ned/Cat Parallels in
dialogue, environment, and allusions to previously similar scenes and also
included a weird bit of incest parallel to another pair. For some reason the
producers actually green lit this after showing over 9000 Ned/Cat parallels
previously and incidentally this happened in the scene where Jon leaves Sansa.
And that this is a coincidence.
There is one interesting Ned/Cat parallel which I am hoping might
be shown next season. It is Jon’s goodbye to Bran while leaving for Castle
Black and Cat’s insistence for him to leave immediately. Also in that scene Cat
pleads with Ned to stay back. Now in season 8 Jon will have to go to battle. So
will Sansa show a reaction that acts as an anti-parallel to Cat’s reaction to
him and a parallel to Cat’s reaction to Ned?
I’ve written some stuff recently about how the Journal hasn’t really been John’s journal for a long time. Since s1, it’s been referred to as “John’s journal,” but really, Dean has taken over conservatorship of the journal. He’s the official curator, and we’ve been led to believe that he’s, for the most part, the one who has continued keeping it current.
When we first saw it in the pilot, this is what it looked like:
Only a day or two later, in 1.02, the journal has already been transformed. All the photos, all the other loose bits of paper and clippings and things just stuffed in there have been reorganized, removed, refiled. It’s been pared down substantially.
Dean’s spent the last 11 years slowly transforming John’s original journal into something entirely different. We know he’s been continuously adding to it, especially after 7.11 when a lack of the most updated information on Vetalas nearly cost Sam his life. I’m pretty sure if nothing else, THAT would’ve inspired Dean to update the journal and keep it current, you know?
This is what it looks like today:
All the loose newspaper clippings have been tidied up. From what I remember in the early days of the show, those were mostly John’s unsolved cases. Things that had been left hanging that he was using as a distraction to keep Sam and Dean busy enough to stay out of trouble while he hunted for Azazel on his own.
The Woman in White had been a long-term open case. The Wendigo, too, was a generational case that John distracted Sam and Dean with, which they’d found IN THE JOURNAL.
Strangely enough, the first case that Sam and Dean found on their own, independent of John’s journal, was 1.03 Dead in the Water. With a little boy named Lucas (just like the little boy in 12.03). Dean found them that case. On his own. Lest we forget the gift that is Dean circling potential cases in the paper:
It was the first time they went literally off book. They’d already ditched all the research and extraneous notes from the two unsolved cases John had sent them on. Dean had already begun the process of making that journal his own. Beginning with THIS CASE in 1.03. With a boy named Lucas, a mysterious reference to a “bike” (which I think is another reference to the black motorcycle that Dean commented on in passing in 12.03. And rather than make yet another post about that bike, it was also a reminder of 1.03, and another case that revolved around parents and children and lies and secrets and untold truths and “the story became the story” until the dam broke and the lake drained and all those hidden things from the past suddenly returned to the surface…) I mean really. PARALLELS TO THE PAST! But in a decidedly more mature fashion. The bicycle in 1.03 and the motorcycle in 12.03. Things are similar, but not the same now.
Sam and Dean spent the next little run of episodes finding their own cases again, adding things to the journal, updating it, making it more relevant to THEM (I say Sam and Dean but it’s usually Dean we see with the journal, and attached to it more personally than Sam).
It becomes painfully and personally relevant again in 1.09 Home. And then again in 1.10 Asylum (yet another of John’s old cases he sends them to solve for him). Same in 1.11 Scarecrow. At this rate they’re really beginning to tidy that thing up. 1.12 Faith brings the journal up in a new way. Sam was using it as a resource to help him find a way to heal and save Dean. We have no idea of knowing if the hunt for the rawhead that injured Dean had been another of John’s cases, but considering their previous run, it’s not unlikely.
Sam and Dean, toward the end of s1, then began learning more about demons, predominantly from Bobby. Which leads me to assume that there hadn’t been much in the journal about demons at all. Which is kind of odd knowing how much of John’s search for the thing that killed Mary had been focused specifically on the fact that he KNEW it was a demon. Yet Sam and Dean had been sidelined with all the cases in the journal that John had conveniently left lying around a motel room for them. Almost like he’d specifically left out a lot of crucial data.
He didn’t want them involved in the hunt for Yellow Eyes. He wanted to protected them by sending them out on hunts he knew they could handle. But the demons came after THEM, and when they needed fast help to learn wtf they were doing dealing with demons at all, they turned to Bobby.
I’m SURE that Dean has added pages and pages of useful info on demons. Because I’m equally sure that JOHN never included it.
What I’m getting at here is that it fundamentally irks me every time we call it “John’s journal.” It hasn’t been Johns since he left it behind for Dean in 1.01. After 11+ years, Sam and Dean (but especially Dean) have made it their own.
What Mary’s reading isn’t so much about John as it is about Sam and Dean. Yes, there seems to be a portion of it at the beginning where he recorded everything he went through after Mary’s death and his first forays into the supernatural, what life was like for him and the boys over the intervening years, but I think it’s been a LONG time since it was used as a journal in that sense, of recording a single person’s personal thoughts and feelings and observations.
When we think of the journal now, how it’s evolved over the course of the series, it’s become more of a handbook on the supernatural than a reflection on John.
I almost said “its original owner” there in the previous sentence, but changed it to John. Because John wasn’t even the original intended owner of that journal. It’s Henry’s initials inscribed inside the cover, and he’d ordered it to be his journal as a Man of Letters. Strange, though, how over the years it’s finally evolved to serve its original purpose. John may have used it as a means of recording more personal events in the beginning (taking Dean shooting, and eventually taking him out drinking…), but that’s not what the journal is today. Dean’s accepted his legacy, and made it a repository of knowledge.
No wonder Mary’s having such a hard time reconciling its contents with the husband she lost.
Okay Listen I know I said I was going to post something in this LAST NIGHT but I am complete garbage and spent my off day journaling instead of actually writing. I’m still working on chapter one of Werewolf Dex (Title TBA), and because I said I’d publish yesterday I’ll do my damnedest to get that up tonight. However, IN THE MEANTIME, I present to you these thoughts on House alignments and ages of our boys.
Sorry…excuse me….Haus alignments.
Under the cut because this is getting long and starting to include ramblings on the background of the AU. This is something. @itsybittle I am so sorry and you so did not ask for this but your headcanon post will not leave me alone and it got me started on Actually Writing this au that my dear friend @actualhockeyrobot and I have been talking about since like, April, so it only felt right to tag you both in the MESS that is to follow. Without further ado….