Recently, I’ve been rummaging through early chapters of Naruto to see if I could find anything interesting and I actually did.
So, right after Naruto and Sasuke kiss in chapter 3, there’s this panel:
Sakura calls Naruto “annoying” because it seems like she doesn’t know that the kiss was an accident.
Later on, in the same chapter, this scene takes place where Sakura tells Sasuke that Naruto doesn’t have any parents so he does a lot of bad things. Sasuke, being in the same situation as Naruto, feels angry about the way she describes an orphans life and tells Sakura that she is “annoying”
I’m sure that Sasuke heard Sakura calling Naruto annoying and now she was insulting him (as well as Sasuke, unintentionally.)
It makes me think that Sasuke wanted Sakura to feel the way Naruto felt, when she called him annoying, because Sasuke understands Naruto’s pain. Sasuke hurts when Naruto hurts. It’s a small but important scene because we know that during all this time, Sasuke always had his eyes on Naruto and in this scene he was standing up to Naruto. Even if it was subconscious.
I will always be in love with Naruto. I will always be a SNS shipper and stand strong. I am anti ending but I’ve grown up and I don’t bother with antis anymore. I want to spend my time loving my boys and loving this family and not waste my time on people who just want to bring me down, I refuse. I’m a warrior and a fighter, but I will enforce peace and stand taller when someone tries to belittle me or my family. So don’t waste your time on me.
honestly why do u even ship sns its so bad & abusive im glad ur pointing out its flaws for this illiterate fandom but. Why do u ship it
hmm lets stick to my meta habit and break this down.
Is SNS abusive?
No, abuse is:
treat with cruelty or violence, especially regularly or repeatedly. To exploit for personal gain.
Sasuke never abused Naruto and vice versa. They got in fights, they argued, insulted each other, were ridiculously petty with each other and had catastrophically different ideologies that almost caused both their deaths. It’s unhealthy and toxic but it is not abuse.
What’s bad, and should be acknowledged as bad about SNS?
-They both never understood each other and tried to violently enforce their ideas on one another.
-Sasuke almost killing Naruto (in their mutual fight, thus not abuse) left some very serious trauma on his psyche.
-Naruto’s complete and frankly assholic insensitivity to the Uchiha clan massacre and where Sasuke is coming from. The fact that he knew of the truth yet regarded Sasuke’s mettle for avenging his family as ‘loving too much and being sad’ and that he tried making Sasuke’s want for justice #relatable by playing the ‘i was lonely too!!’ card. He even hid it, people try to pin this on the overall shitty ending but tbh it’s always been that way.
-Naruto had a certain selfishness when it came to Sasuke where the feelings he had towards him (canonic platonic,,in the sns fandom usually considered romantic) made him almost disregard Sasuke and his wishes.
-Their fights..aren’t really that romantic. Nobody wants their ship to cut off each other’s arm.
-The pettiness they share towards each other is almost..overbearing lmao
Why do people, including ruby, ship SNS despite all of this (or bc their cognitive dissonance lets them believe all of the above is none existent)?
- Naruto at the end of the day is truly just the story of how two lonely boys who on the surface seem totally different on the surface but actually have a lot in common who’ve come to see the world in very different ways due to their different experiences come to a mutual understanding. It’s the journey of one constantly trying to understand the other, constantly learning to take all what he’s learned and teach it to the other. No matter what he just wants to reach him with the message he’s learned ‘Pain is less when we share it between us.’ ‘Even with our differences we always have something in common. It’s better to unite based on that than to separate because of our differences.’. No matter how many times he is shut down, or trampled by some obstacle he wants that message to reach the person who saved him first. There’s a moral behind their story, if not just the whole unite part then learn to avoid what Naruto’s ass does when trying to unite with a person bc it’s annoying as shit.
- They literally grew up watching each other! They gave each other hope! I cry. Literally look at this???
- While no one except kagehina can pull off orange/yellow and blue aesthetics (even tho their complimentary they are ugly together lets not fool ourselves, what are you? A mikasa volleyball??)
They manage to make the combo look aesthetically pleasing.
-The bond they share is literally representative of the yin yang energy elements
-Naruto always strove to understand Sasuke
-Naruto always had a profound impact on Sasuke and the way he sees things
-Being apart hurt both of them like hell
-Naruto had a panic attack at the thought of Sasuke dying
-The personality types of these two always work in shipping!!! Specially for me. Some of my similar troped otps:
*My favourite ship ever is Kagehina from haikyuu. They do the trope of energetic ball of sunshine and angsty boy the best imo. So sweet they give me a toothache, but when it’s angsty I cry my ass to sleep. They have tropes like ‘save me from my loneliness’, ‘rivals help you develop’ and ‘friends that give the feeling of romantic subtext’
*RinHaru is another popular ship in fandom culture, also very similar tropes such as sunny boy w angsty boy
*Tododeku. One of my absolute favourite ships atm. They are like a kagehina 2.0 and its the same damn trope. Innocent energetic boy saves angsty boy and makes him reconsider the way he looks at life.
*Klance. Always arguing, clearly care for each other. Keith is angsty and angry, Lance is a ball of life.
*Zutara. Motherly loud girl and angsty boy in need of getting his shit together.
The list could go on but roughly speaking some of my fav ships and the respective fandom’s fav ships have these dynamics and tropes that are similar to what Kishimoto was trying to do. I personally can’t say SNS is the best ship out of these. Naruto telling Sasuke ‘you’re my friend’ doesn’t hit me as hard as Hinata’s ‘I’m here!’. Sasuke’s ‘I trained to escape that weakness’ never shocked me as hard as ‘Rin, I know who i’m swimming for!’. Sasuke’s revelation of tears cannot touch the intensity of the second Izuku got to Todoroki with a single line after breaking his bones to get through to him. SNS had an arm but it wasn’t as dynamic, it wasn’t as well done.
When they fight it’s hardly as cute as klance having their daily banter and Naruto is not as understanding as Katara. So I will always stand by what I say, SNS is the weakest mxm ship in all of shonen. In an entire genre based on strong bonds between dudes, they manage to become a joke within the fandom. But Naruto in itself is a series with a lot of flaws that is considered a joke, even among its fans. I love SNS for the same reason I am trapped in Naruto hell, anon. The god damn potential of it all.
Rarely any anti content regarding any team 7 ship on this blog. I am pro SS NS and SNS. I don’t ship Kakasaku but i’m also pro that. The only ship I hate in Naruto is Naruhina, the rest have strong bases and are highly compatible so,,they all get a yes from me. It’s no secret that I otp Sasusaku the most tho.
Thanks for the ask, mate. Hope this cleared shit up.
HC where Sasuke has an unconscious habit of preening Naruto, especially when they go out to eat since he’s such a messy eater. Naruto will be caught mid-sentence when Sasuke reaches over to wipe the corner of his lip with his thumb.
Honestly people who keep on messaging me saying that “read Sakura hiden, everything makes more sense after it” needs to understand that shitty argument is the reason why SNS fans can’t stand SasuSaku and/or Naruhina (not due to hiden however).
1) Hiden was made by a FRIEND, not Kishimoto. So he has no clue on how the characters are SUPPOSED to feel, not just some OCC bullshit.
2) You could make an entire series showing sasusaku love, but it’s still pointless because if they were truly good it would be shown THROUGHOUT the entire series
3) If you’re telling me to read a fanfic in order to justify your ship as you need to literally pick pocket and scrape any possible scenes such as Sakura and Sasuke standing beside one another (yes some people count that as proof) then that is just sad and pathetic (just like SasuSaku 😂)
I’m not a fan of fanservice. I tolerate it as a necessary evil. It appeals to a demographic that helps sustain the industry, so at least there’s a positive side. Sometimes it feels out of place and can ruin my immersion, but it’s usually something easily ignored.
But in the latest episode of Shokugeki, they actually managed to use fanservice to undermine the plot.
I cannot understand this choice. When Erina reaches the supposed safehaven of Polar Star, she is sexualized and objectified. As opposed to her imprisonment under Azami where she is treated cruelly, but as a person.
I know SnS is an ecchi shounen, but there are times when lewdness is appropriate and times when it should never be used. It’s disappointing me so much because SnS, if the fanservice were removed, would actually be one of the best shounen series out there. It has it’s own legs to stand on, it doesn’t need Erina’s.
SNS stands for Sasuke/Naruto, right? Not Sasuke/Naruto/Sakura? sorry I don't understand it. And why is necessary to repeat the S?
SNS stands for ‘SasuNaruSasu.’ The reason SNS has itself established as the name is first off because of the ship wars between NaruSasu and SasuNaru shippers in the past. People basically decided to repeat Sasuke’s name so it doesn’t represent the common Dominance/submission dynamic that is assumed in regular heterosexual relationships due to our societal background and the fact we live in a patriarchy, meaning that by using SNS, people want to avoid others to apply their heteronormative understanding of relationship dynamics to Naruto and Sasuke’s relationship. I hope that wasn’t confusing; I tried to keep it simple.
I actually used to ship it lol. But I wasn’t in the fandom for YEARS. I can’t stand Naruto anymore, and narusasu fandom being insufferable these days doesn’t really help either. They can’t deal with criticism at all, and all they care about is their ship. All they care about is that Sasuke’s life revolves around Naruto.
Like jesus just. shut the fuck up about your ship for one fucking second.
…. but then again, that’s pretty much everyone lol. IS, SS, even some
The only thing I like about it currently is that Naruto seems so lifeless and unhappy around his family but when he is around Sasuke he is all smile and life again, and the contrast is really big. And I will admit fully that is all about my hate for nh fandom, not because sns itself. I just love seeing this ship get shat on because I can’t stand it and I can’t stand their cringe-worthy fandom either.
My “dream ending” for Sasuke would be him divorcing Sakura, “leaving” Naruto (lol I guess people get what I mean), and realising what Itachi really did. He doesn’t even see Itachi in a realistic light, just through rose-tinted glasses. Like boy do I care about Sasuke but he hasn’t always been rational. He’s not stupid, but he’s really messed up, easy to manipulate, and just… broken. Like, I agree it does make sense for Sasuke to forgive, because he’s…well his life revolved around Itachi, of course he would want to latch on his last family member one more time. But I also agree with fuckishimoto saying it’s unrealistic for Sasuke to just forgive like that, and also really destructive for his character. Mostly because he just reset. I won’t say Sasuke should “get over” Itachi because you can’t get over your own brother. You can hate them or cut them out of your life but after all that suffering it’s literally impossible for Sasuke to just forget and “get over” it. I don’t know what’s the word I should use. I just want Sasuke’s life to stop revolving around Itachi and Naruto and him to stop caring about their opinions. Live for himself, make his own decisions. I want him to be able to leave Sakura too.
But it’s not like any of this is gonna happen because both Naruto and Itachi are free of criticism from Kishi and his editors. :| I don’t care about Kishi shitting on Sakura anymore either, I wish he would just leave her alone. If you hate Sakura so much then just divorce them and let Sakura move on you moron…
Lol why did this turn into a huge fandom rant… I guess I just have my feelings bottled up since I haven’t been able to complain to my best friend who lives in another city (because I can’t use fucking skype now, yay :D).
Anyway, in short, I don’t support SNS, I can’t stand their fandom anymore and don’t defend them. I always hesitate to talk shit about it because I don’t want asshole homophobe SS and NH reblog my stuff. But whatever, maybe that will change, idk. If I care enough. I don’t follow any naruto news or series or fandom anymore.