An out-of-body experience.

mymusingsfromtheheart  asked:

I felt a difference in Rs attitude towards D and the expression of their love (overall less warm and playful, more miscommunication, bickering etc) comparing season 1 to season 2. Love changes in the course of a relationship, and reality and storylines have influence, but I was wondering (not having read the books yet...) whether this difference is also so apparent in the books, or is there less contrast there? Was it a script choice to accentuate their negative sides, more than in the books?

No, this is absolutely in the books. More so, if anything. The broken trust over Verity, and how that lead to the destruction of Carnmore, marks the very beginning of it, but the real distance begins with Julia’s death - nine months later, just before Ross’s trial in Bodmin, Demelza can scarcely mention Julia’s name for fear of sending Ross back into a black mood. And when they return and have (as they do in the show) the conversation about her wanting another child…that really sets something between them. When he finds out about her pregnancy (later than he does in the show), he exclaims in exasperation that she seized on ‘one thing’ he said and worked it up into a reason to be unhappy all autumn. There are other facets to it, but essentially yes, they have more miscommunications, continuing on particularly after Francis’s death, but also at things like the event at Trenwith (harvest festival in the show, Christmas in the book).

The bickering is much less in the book, and I imagine was a script choice, as you say, to accentuate the discord and miscommunication between them - because obviously their thoughts can’t come across, on screen, except by being spoken. Some of what’s said, and what then leads to bickering, is unspoken in the books.

But certainly that playfulness fades away, throughout ‘Jeremy’ and ‘Warleggan’. But it’s back in ‘The Black Moon’! And in later life they’re playful and warm and teasing and lovely. They get back to it in the end :D

Hamliza is really the only ship that I can accept love-at-first-sight aus for, tbh.

I typically don’t care for them because it feels like lazy writing, but when it comes to these two it’s just so pure and sweet, idk man I just love them.

mymusingsfromtheheart  asked:

Next to Demelza and Ross,I grew to love Francis,despite his many flaws.I so well understood his sense of inferiority and the huge mistakes he made because of it. He became a better,less insecure man after his 2nd chance in life. So loved the scene with D at Nampara S2E5.I felt he so well recognized in D the same poisonous feelings of inferiority and unhappiness he had struggled with and he so wanted to help her overcome these unnecessary feelings. To me he loved her like a sister. Thoughts?

I adore Francis. I love him to pieces. You’re right, he has an awful sense of inferiority - thank you, Charles Poldark, for doing such a good job with your son - and it’s a sense that’s cultivated beyond Charles’ death, by his ever-increasing worry that Elizabeth is constantly comparing him to Ross - and indeed to Charles.

He had such a rough time in s1. Don’t get me wrong, I think he’s an arse half the time, especially over Carnmore and Verity, but I look at where he is in the beginning of 1.01, so happy at the celebration dinner to confirm his engagement to Elizabeth, and I look at him in 1.04 after Charles has died, on the clifftop looking so bleak and forlorn, and then up to 1.08…and yeah, I can see why it all happened, and I feel so sorry for him.

Because firstly there’s his father, and then the legacy of his father. Charles makes it perfectly plain that he doesn’t think Francis is up to scratch, and that he wishes Francis was more like Ross, and he never gives Francis a real chance. He never shows Francis how things are done at Grambler and never gives him the opportunity to strike his own path. The constant comparisons to Ross, and Ross’s mine, only chip away at any confidence Francis had left. And then when Grambler goes (and, in fairness, it would have gone regardless of whether Francis had lost his shares or not - in the show he gambles away his shares and the Warleggans close it, in the book it’s simply no longer possible to keep going), Francis has nothing but being a country gentleman, a local squire. He has no business prospects, nothing to keep him engaged in life, nothing with which to build up any self-confidence whatsoever.

Then there’s Elizabeth. And oh, Elizabeth, you are not a woman who is suited to being married to a passionate man. And yes, Francis is passionate. Look how it comes out in s2! He throws himself headlong into situations, often to his own detriment, often making himself look foolish, but Ross does precisely the same thing, frequently. The difference is that Ross got most of his gambling and whoring out of his system early, and three years in the army made him grow up a lot. Francis never had that, and though he wouldn’t have coped in the army, he clearly did need space to flourish that he never got in s1. So yes, Francis is passionate - and physically passionate. He clearly adores his wife. He clearly desires her. And Elizabeth…is not a woman to whom sexual passion seems to come often. When she turns him down, physically, Francis believes (possibly not unreasonably) that she turns him down because she still prefers Ross. And to a man whose self-confidence is non-existent, that’s a hard blow to take. Again and again he sees evidence that Elizabeth wishes she’d waited for Ross, that she still loves him, that she is disappointed in Francis - whether this is real or just what he sees is irrelevant. That’s how he perceives it and so it adds to his disillusionment with his marriage, and his general dissatisfaction.

What changes for Francis is, as you say, his second chance at life - but more than that, it’s Demelza’s selflessness, and how it leads Francis to recognise that he’s done her, and Ross, a disservice. She comes to tend them in their illness, saves Francis’s son, and loses her daughter as a result. And Francis couldn’t let that pass without allowing it to change him, and to change his relationship with his Nampara cousins. His time in Bodmin with Dwight, too - his failed suicide attempt - almost gives him a new way to approach life. A renewed ability to face his life and to go on. When Ross offers him the chance to join with him in Wheal Grace, as an equal partner (something Francis could never have been, and never felt himself to be, in Grambler or Wheal Leisure), Francis seizes upon it and you can see clearly how that drives him forward and how much he blossoms with it. He gains confidence, he gains happiness, he settles into his position in the county, and he’s quite clearly determined to share that with Demelza, who was part of the reason for the change in him. That conversation he has with Demelza, which is in the book too (I’m soooo glad they kept it in, it’s so important) is so loving, so full of care and affection and a desire for her to see herself as he and many others see her, and it’s so tragic that he then dies so uselessly.