In the Enterprise series it’s shown that T'Pol can refuse to marry her betrothed, Koss,
despite them being bonded earlier in life (around 14). She initially refuses to marry him, then relents because of her dying mother, and later divorces Koss when her mother dies.
The Enterprise series is also a prequel to TOS meaning that, conceivably, Vulcan culture would have gotten more progressive by the time Spock was born.
So… T'Pring could have just said no. Or divorced him.
Ri nam-tor etek rifainusular na’ashaya Fai-tor du to-golar heh nash-veh isha Nam-tor bosh-kugaya t’ra nah-tor nash-veh Ri’prah tu nash s’fan vath sasu Aitlu var-tor nash-veh du uf olau nash-veh Wa’bolau tor nash-veh ken-tor du ~~~ Raravamet: Ri dungi-nav tan-tor nash-veh du abu Ri dungi-nav vravshau nash-veh du Ri dungi-nav sasahrat heh ek’trasha nash-veh du Ri dungi-nav tor nash-veh maf-tor du Ri dungi-nav tar-tor nash-veh rom-halan Ri dungi-nav riyeht-var-tor heh dash-tor nash-veh du ~~~ Ki’pufai-tor etek tik vath na’dom wu Ki’suh khaf-spol t’du hi Nam-tor du nuh’fusik tar-tor Svi’fai-tor etek on ki’fihal-tor ra Fai-tor etek zhagra heh dungi-mavau Heh kuv deshkau tu uf olau nash-veh Ri var-tor du nash-veh nuh’glan-famau tu gla-tor ~~~ Dah raravamet ~~~ Tan-tor nash-veh du abu Tan-tor nash-veh du abu Ri dungi-nav tan-tor nash-veh Ri dungi-nav tan-tor nash-veh Tan-tor nash-veh du abu Ri dungi-nav tan-tor nash-veh Ri dungi-nav tan-tor nash-veh Tan-tor nash-veh du abu Ki’pufai-tor etek tik vath na’dom wu Ki’suh khaf-spol t’du hi Nam-tor du nuh’fusik tar-tor Svi’fai-tor etek on ki’fihal-tor ra Fai-tor etek zhagra heh dungi-mavau Aitlu var-tor nash-veh du uf olau nash-veh Wa’bolau tor nash-veh ken-tor du ~~~ Reh raravamet ~~~
so i’ve been looking at vulcan clothing and none of it seems really comfortable or anything right? and so i got to thinking like okay but what if spock found out that human clothes are 1000% more comfortable and easier to wear than vulcan clothes
just imagine a spock who slowly hoards human clothing because it’s the “logical” thing to wear when not on duty
just imagine a sleepy spock with nothing but boxers and a t-shirt
spock in a sweater vest because it’s chilly
spock not understanding the difference or point in gender-norm assigned clothing and wearing skirts and stuff
spock wearing human clothes
So I watched The Devil in the Dark again today and I ended
up with five … FIVE PAGES of how slashy the first twenty minutes of this
episode is. Are you hot for it yet? Jesus knows I am. Read on, because this shit is juicy.
Earlier in the episode they discuss the possibility that if
life exists that is silicon instead of carbon based, their phasers might be
ineffective against it. After confronting the creature and using their phasers
against it, that theory is confirmed. Even with the two of them using their
phasers on the highest setting, they couldn’t kill the creature – it is phaser
resistant. Spock knows this.
Kirk instructs his men to attack on sight and throughout the
episode, Spock is consumed with the idea that this creature is a life form that
should be spared. He can’t stop thinking about it, and he goes to great lengths
to argue his case. He forms his theory, asks questions of the miners, sets his
tricorder to detect silicone based life, debates Jim on the subject – it is
clear that Spock feels very passionate about this issue as a Science Officer. This
is important to him on a professional and scientific level, as well as moral.
He still maintains his stance, even after one of Jim’s men is killed, and many
other miners. He believes it is even worth risking lives, in the event that it is the
last of its kind. Jim disagrees.
Spock suggests it may be the last of a race of creatures. As
he says: “If so, if it is the only survivor of it’s race, to kill it would be a
crime against science.”
Kirk reminds him it is their duty to protect the colony, and
Spock is clearly reluctant. Even though Kirk tells him it must die, when they
are organizing the search party, Spock actually rebels against Kirk’s orders a
little – he suggests to the men that they should try to capture it, at which
Kirk gives him a very irate look and says: “Your orders are shoot to kill.” Spock
feels so strongly about preserving the horta that he actually dared to change
the orders after Kirk had told him privately that the creature had to die!
Kirk even had to reprimand him after as Spock blatantly
admitted to trying to go over Kirk’s head on the matter of killing the horta.
Jim tries to get Spock to return to the ship as this is
protocol. If the Captain has left the ship, the First Officer should naturally
be in charge, and as both are the least expendable crew members, there is no
reason the First Officer should needlessly risk their lives as well as the
Captain’s on a mission.
Spock’s reaction: I … I beg your pardon sir. (CLEARLY
Kirk dishes it exactly as Spock needs it: the reactor is
vital to keep going. It is only logical to ensure the First Officer is safe and
also his expertise is being put to good use.
Spock is legitimately confrontational about this. He is
Kirk: Your scientific knowledge—
Spock: Is not needed there, sir. (Oh ain’t that cute. It’s
like he’s allowed to fight with his Captain about this instead of, you know. Following
orders. Like a good little First Officer.)
Oh, but it doesn’t stop there. Kirk gets real for a minute
and lays it out.
Kirk: Mr. Spock, you are second in command. This will be a dangerous hunt.
Either one of us by himself is expendable. Both of us are not.
And then Spock just goes to town on his ass with stats.
Spock: Captain. There are approximately one hundred of us
engaged in this search against one creature. The odds against you and I both
being killed are 2,228.7 to 1.
Sooo … I love how Jim just flat out said this is going
to be dangerous, I don’t want to risk you. And Spock just flings it out. Bitch,
I ain’t bein’ left behind if your ass is on the line here.
And might I add after that debate they even take the time
out of this bloodthirsty, risky manhunt to flirt with each other:
Kirk: Please, try to stay out of trouble.
Spock: That is always my intention, Captain.
*Smug grinning/eye sex*
These two are ridiculous.
So anyway, against typical protocol, Spock (in his own way)
fights with Jim so that he can stay. And WINS. This is not the last time that
Spock rebels against typical Starfleet protocol in this episode, never mind how
he is also bucking Vulcan tradition and logic in doing so.
This is the second time, one right after the other, that Spock
pushes back against Kirk’s orders. It’s almost like he considers him and Kirk
equals or something. You know, not a Captain and First Officer (who has no
choice but to take direct orders from the Captain) but equals … like you
might be in a relationship and you’re bantering with each other instead of
working together. Am I crazy?
Literally seconds after this happens the reactor gives out
and everyone who isn’t essential has to be beamed aboard the Enterprise because
they need all the oxygen they can spare and only have enough supplied for an
HOUR. BUT YOU KNOW. Spock gets to stay, because he threw a little tantrum and Spock ALWAYS gets his way. I am
cackling as I’m writing this.
So now that the both of them have gotten over freaking out
over each other’s safety and who should or should not be allowed to go on this
mission, not even missing a beat here, the two head off to look for the horta. Kirk
suggests they split up.
Guess who disagrees with the captain. Again. This time Jim
gets his way, but Spock literally just stands there watching Jim go down his
separate tunnel like a dog that got told to stay. He doesn’t even budge until
Jim disappears from his line of vision.
Then Kirk contacts Spock via communicator and the pair keep
this going because you know.
Ok bae, we staying on the phone the whole time because I
Then the horta starts knocking shit over and then there is
that hysterical moment:
Spock: Captain. *Gettin’ worried* Are you alright? *Panicking*
JIM! *Starts marching* JIM!!
I’m sorry. Is a Vulcan bawling at the top of his lungs right
now and starting to run? Because that’s a pretty … human thing to do. When
you care about somebody that you think might be hurt. Just a thought.
Kirk: Yes, Mr. Spock, alright.
THAT LOOK. Oh my God, the look on Spock’s face. He visibly
reels. It’s like he’s consumed with relief and stricken at the same time. It
like he just realized it: Oh fuck. I’m so totally in love with Jim Kirk that I
just did a Vulcan equivalent to flailing and having a panic attack. Shit.
“I find it extremely disquieting that your roof chose that
particular moment to collapse. Please proceed with extreme caution. I shall
quicken my pace.”
I’m sorry. SORRY SORRY SORRY.
Did a Vulcan just confess out loud to feeling “extremely
Extreme is a pretty um … extreme word to use, for Vulcan
emotions. Am I right or am I right or am I right.
“So Jim I might have just shit my pants because I almost
lost you there and don’t move a fucking finger because I’m coming, bb.”
Now Spock is good and worked up. He’s breathing hard and he’s
got to get to Jim because for a minute there, he thought something terrible had
happened to Jim, and clearly that had fucked him up. I think it’s one of the
first moments he realizes what it would feel like if something bad did happen
to Jim, and he’s surprised by how poorly he would have handled it. It’s
as if in that moment, he realizes that he might not be able to keep it together
if something were to happen to Jim because he’s allowed himself to feel too
much for him. That’s it, Spock. You went and fell in love with Jim Kirk, now
here are the consequences.
Oh, but it doesn’t end there.
No my friends, my favourite part of this episode hasn’t even
I mean, this shit is ALL ONE MOMENT AFTER THE OTHER, but we’re still not
done here. Because as if Spock never suffered enough emotional exposure/embarrassment
this episode, the best is yet to come.
Spock: Captain. I’ve just read some fresh signs. The
creature is in this area. Take a life form reading.
Kirk: It’s not necessary Mr. Spock I know exactly where the
Spock: Where, Captain?
Kirk: Ten feet away from me.
Spock: Kill it, Captain! Quickly!
Kirk: It’s not making any threatening moves, Spock.
Spock: You don’t dare take the chance, Captain! Kill it!
Kirk: I thought you were the one who wanted it kept alive.
Captured, if possible.
Spock: Jim. Your life is in danger. You can’t take the risk.
(Oh we’ve switched over to Jim now. Shit’s getting personal.)
Kirk: It seems to be waiting.
Spock: I remind you it is a proven killer. I’m on my way.
OK OK OK.
So … this WHOLE FUCKING EPISODE, Spock has walked the border
of insubordination just to keep this horta alive. He has made it clear that
although unfortunate, he feels that preserving the last of a species is vital
enough to risk the lives of everyone on the colony PLUS Jim’s men. He thinks it
is worth the risk for every life but one.
He is throwing away something he feels intensely passionate
about for something that he clearly has more passion for.
He tries to convince Jim to kill it THREE TIMES. He is
pretty much yelling at him over the communicator.
WHAT THE FUCK JIM YOU COULD DIE KILL IT
KILL IT KILL IT
And Jim is all Oh, about a half hour ago this thing was
important enough for my men to risk their lives for and now you be tellin’ me
to squat this thing like a fly?
AND I mean, Kirk was set on killing this thing from the
get-go. What happened? Just as a cherry on top of this syrupy slash sundae, Jim
is going against his own beliefs – risking his own life – and disregarding his
OWN FUCKING ORDERS – because he thought it would upset Spock and knows it is
important to him.
BOTH OF THEM LET GO OF THEIR STUBBORN BELIEFS AND
STANDPOINTS FOR EACH OTHER.
If that isn’t love, then … well, fuck you, you’re wrong.
It’s Goddamn love.
Just ask Gene Roddenberry. There was sufficient enough love
for that, he said.
NO FUCKING JOKE. Sufficient? How about every orifice on my
body is choked to the brim and smothering in the love from JUST THIS EPISODE?
These two are ridiculous and this is just twenty minutes of
a fucking episode, oh for fuck’s sake *throws papers* I’m done. I’m done. If
you don’t believe me you haven’t been watching Star Trek TOS, you’ve put
something else on by accident. Is your TV backwards? Are you blindfolded while
wearing earplugs? JESUS. This shit was WRITTEN BY SOMEBODY, it didn’t just come
out of thin air.
Ok, some people like to insult her and say things like “how she dare?” “she’s a *insert all kind of slurs here*”
Let’s look at this from another perspective. You are forced to be betrothed since you were a kid, you have nothing in common with the boy that will be your husband, you two barely know each other, you two follow different paths… but one day you know you’ll have to submit to him in his Pon farr. We are talking about violent sex, no more, no less. Having sex with someone who is like a stranger to you. How it sounds to you?
Ugh, yeah, T’Pring is horrible for not wanting to mate with Spock, right? She saw the opportunity to use Kirk as her champion because in case he won he wouldn’t want her as her wife and if Spock won he would free her because she had dared to challenge (in case he wouldn’t free her, it would be the same because he would be gone to face the consequences to have killed his captain). This was the only way to get the divorce by vulcan laws. So, if you want to blame someone, blame vulcan traditions, not T’Pring for wanting to be free and for not wanting to submit herself to Spock.
Years later T’Ping decided to divorce Stonn because she wanted to be a vulcan priestess (sorry, I can’t find the comic in which they talk about this). So T’Pring is a woman who should be admired for defend her principles and not insulted for something she did to be free.
vulcans observing the ancient human ritual referred to as a “gender reveal party”, are at first incredibly impressed that
1) human infants are advanced enough to understand such an abstract concept and apply it to themselves
2) parents and offspring have a strong enough telepathic bond for this information to be relayed despite being essentially psi-null
3) wait,, WAIT DEAR S U R A K
The moment in which Spock become aware that Jim would do anything for him
We know this moment. Jim has the command to kill Harrison with the torpedos. He has the command from Marcus an Admiral of Starfleet and this is the only chance to show that he is a Captian who do like they asks.
But it’s exacly this moment in which he’s thinking about what Spock was saying. If he uses the torpedos he wouldn’t be any better than Nero. Jim would kill thousends just for one man. He would destroy a whole planet. But it could be the only / last chance to get the respect of Starfleet. He could be getting the Enterprise back. We see all this in his face.
And while Jim is a fucking perfect Command, he cannot make commands alone. We see it in the first minutes of this films - when he ask Bones about his mind. And now again. But this is different and at the same time it’s the same. Because it’s involves Spock. Maybe not his life. But his opinion.
We could practically see him weighting all up in his mind.
What Spock would do - what he want’s - what would he think, if Jim uses the torpedos VS The Enterprise and his Command.
And while Jim is desperate to make the right decision, all we can see from Spock one verry clear emotion. Trust. It’s in the first picture and doesn’t fall. Clear he’s stiff, but he trust’s Jim. Because he knows deep down, Jim wouldn’t do this to him or any other beeing. Jim is maybe young and not good in holding on to rules. But he isn’t a killer. He is not Nero.
If I doesn’t know it better, I would say just in this moment they have a bond. Because the way Spock looks at Jim. It’s like he want to say: I trust you, that you do the right thing. So don’t do this, Jim. If you do this, you don’t want to be Captain any more. You would hate your self for this. For killing people. We see, that deep down he knows Jim.
So when Jim dosn’t uses the torpedos we see more. Not very clear, but we doesn’t need a clearer picture, because it’s there. It’s practically in Spocks face. Finality. Spock doesn’t show trust. He’s closing himself off, while Jim’s sad. Because he knows this is the last command he has just given. It would be the last time he would sit in this chair. Because he would do anything for Spock. More than he would do for Starfleet. And it’s the first time Spock see it. It’s the first time he see’s Jim making a decision for him. If not for the first time. But the first time he’s there. The first time he see’s Jim in thinking about all consequences.
And that is the moment in which he feels more trust in Jim. Not only trust in his person. But trust in his whole decision. He knows now, Jim would anything do for him. And it makes him feeling …
Feeling like he should do anything for Jim. Because he know just like Jim, that this is the last time, Jim would have command. And while he holds now so much respect for his Captain. It’s not enough. It’s not something he can really say. But he can let Jim see it.
Because now he see’s him in a new light. We see this so clearly in his expression. This - on the Captain Stool - it’s not anymore the brash Cadet who would cheat to get what he wants. This is the person - maybe - the only person Spock can trust. That it would make anything for him. But not without thinking about the consequences.
This is the first time since his last command, we see Jims full expression. And maybe it’s since Pikes death the first real emotion on his face. He’s not looking like 26. He’s looking like a young boy who has got told, his dream would never get come true. And all this can Spock see. All pure sadness.
So Spock do the one thing - maybe the only thing he could do in this moment. He stand by his side. He told him, he has done the right decision. But we doesn’t need to hear the words: Even if it does not feel so. Because we see it in Jims face. More than clearly.
But all the sadness goes when he looks up in Spocks face …
… because he knows now, that his first officer would be by his side. And this is more from worth than any Command he can get’s from killing people.
So this is the first real smile we see on his face since his last moment with Spock. (The - I miss you - Moment) But this time he smiles not hopefully but flirty because Spock say something about feeling happy to accompany him by the mission.
This Moment is not very long in this movie, but it show’s so much. Trust, hope, sadness … real emotion from both of them. Since we know both are experts if it’s about to hide emotions.
Jim fake them and Spock hide them. But in this moment they show the other what they hide. It’s a new step in their realationship on this ship. And for me a very important scene.