SOCRATES TRIES TO TEACH MY SEMINAR
SOCRATES: In the magnificent oration which you have just uttered, I think that you were right, my dear Agathon, in proposing to speak of the nature of Love first and afterwards of his works–that is a way of beginning which I very much approve. And as you have spoken so eloquently of his nature, may I ask you further, Whether love is the love of something or of nothing? And here I … yes, Glaucon?
Is it of something?
SOCRATES: Yes, Glaucon, that’s what we’re getting to, but first I must explain myself… did you have a question, Aristophanes?
ARISTOPHANES: Going off of what Glaucon said, I was going to say that it’s probably something, too.
SOCRATES: …Right. But I must explain myself: I do not want you to say that love is the love of a father or the love of a mother–that would be ridiculous; but to answer as you would, if I asked is a father a father of something? to which you would … What is it, Phaedrus?
PHAEDRUS: This might not be right, but I think it’s that love is the love of a father or a mother?
ARISTOPHANES: Yeah, going off of what Phaedrus said, I think people love their fathers and mothers.
AGATHON: I agree.
SOCRATES: …Right, but – Okay, let me try something else. Is not a brother to be regarded essentially as a brother of something?
PHAEDRUS: Could you repeat the question?
SOCRATES: What I said was, is not a brother … Yes, Glaucon?
GLAUCON: This isn’t actually about this, but I was wondering if you could tell me what you mean by “justice.”
AGATHON: Wait, what page are we on?