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ENxPs: The Most Introverted Extroverts

“Why are ENFPs and ENTPs considered to be the most introverted extroverts? They always have so much energy!” It’s a question, and an observation, that I’ve seen echoed throughout the MBTI community over and over again. In fact, I decided to write out this post explaining this phenomenon today because, on this lovely day, I have now answered this particular question three times in three different MBTI-related Facebook groups. So, here is an explanation for why ENFPs and ENTPs have been labeled as the most introverted extroverts.


ENFP: Ne Fi Te Si

ENTP: Ne Ti Fe Si

Even though Ne is an extroverted function, it’s not capturing raw information from the environment as is, like Se is doing. Ne is continually searching for nuance, patterns, the subtextual meaning behind everything it sees. Constantly connecting the dots - trying to peek behind the metaphorical curtain of everything and everybody that they encounter - requires a lot of energy and brain power for ENxPs.

For ENFPs, their auxiliary function, Fi, is a very introverted function - it requires complete stillness and silence to work properly. So in that sense, ENFPs need a lot of time to both process what they’ve seen and experienced in the world around them, and to introspect and reflect about themselves.

ENTPs, like ENFPs, possess Ne as their dominant function; and so, like ENFPs, they require more downtime than your average extrovert to process and unfold and theorize about all of their perceived patterns, theories, and ideas. Unlike ENFPs, however, ENTPs do not use Fi. Instead, their second function is Ti, introverted thinking. Like Fi and any other introverted function, Ti has a preference for silence in order to work properly, so that it can internally fit each piece of the puzzle into the correct slot in a way that makes sense to the ENTP. 

Moving down the stack, the difference in the third cognitive function between ENFPs and ENTPs is what I believe dictates that ENTPs may be, perhaps, a smidgen more introverted than ENFPs are. The third function for an ENTP, Fe - extroverted feeling - does not require action or data on the part of the ENTP. It works by absorbing information from its social environment, by reading and observing the nuances of social interaction in order to do what Fe does best: managing impressions and manipulating social interactions. It does not necessarily require action on the part of the ENTP: just passive input (although the ENTP can, of course, use their social skills to manipulate a conversation in the direction they want it to go in order to gather more information - and, of course, an older ENTP who has more information is going to be more astute and adept at navigating the social terrain than a younger and less experienced ENTP is). 

On the other hand, the ENFP’s third cognitive function, Te (extroverted thinking), does require action. Te is task-oriented, and works by determining which steps need to be taken in order to accomplish a pre-established goal: it is primarily concerned with efficiency, organization, and objectively getting things done in the real world. It has a desire to control and shape its environment. And so unlike Fe, which requires only passive input, Te actually requires action on the part of its user: Fe can still operate properly while being perfectly idle, but Te can’t. 

Additionally, when you zoom out and look at the big picture of how ENFPs and ENTPs operate (as opposed to examining the intricacies of their cognitive functions), although both types have a strong affinity for being the center of attention, ENFPs are primed for wanting to experience authentic emotional connections with other people. And so while ENFPs and ENTPs are both considered to be the most introverted extroverts, I do believe that, because of the differences between Fe and Te - as well as taking the type types into account as a whole - it is probably the case that ENTPs are a little bit more introverted than ENFPs are. 

Those first world intellectuals engaged in repopularizing communism tend to make movementist strategies and tactics their default practice. Placing their faith in disorganized rebellions, they argue either explicitly or implicitly that we must tail every unfocused mass protest that erupts in response to global capitalism. The argument, though not always stated, is that these protests will, through some inexplicable mechanism of combination, produce a revolutionary critical mass, at some point on the distant horizon, that will finally resolve the communist hypothesis- this is precisely what is now called movementism.
There was a time, in the late 1990s and early 2000s, where most of us believed this movementist strategy was synonymous with revolutionary praxis. We went to Seattle to protest the World Trade Organization; we assembled in Quebec City to challenge the Free Trade Agreement of the Americas; we proclaimed that we were part of a beautiful and fragmented chaos of affinity groups, conflicted organizations, disorganized rebels, all of whom were somehow part of the same social movement that was greater than the sum of its parts. We believed ourselves to be raindrops that would produce a flood capable of sweeping away capitalism, unwilling to recognize that this was perhaps a false analogy and that we were more accurately, in very concrete terms, a disorganized mob of enraged plebeians shaking our fists as a disciplined imperial army. Years ago we spoke of “social movementism” but now it only makes sense to drop the “social” since this phase of confusion was incapable of understanding the social terrain.
So while we should endorse every rebellion against capitalism and imperialism, no matter how desperate (as Frantz Fanon once put it), we should also realize that the unfocused nature of these rebellions is intrinsically incapable of responding to the problem of necessity … 


[Movementism] goes nowhere because, due to its very nature, it cannot approach the point of unity- the point of theoretical and practical totality that post-modernists warned us to avoid- that should emanate from the understanding that communism is a necessity. For when we speak of necessities we also have to speak of building a unified movement that, due to this unity, will possess the intention of making what is necessary a reality.

—  J. Moufawad-Paul | The Communist Necessity (2014)

ptw30  asked:

Hihi! Thank you again! Do you have any fluff with Keith and Shiro from Duality? I love their friendship/bro-ship in that story (and all your stories, really). Thank you!!!

[I’m writing Dualityverse fluff ficlets! (Because the latest chapters have been pure angst.)] [Read them all here.]

This one got a little out of hand because Keith and Shiro. Don’t expect all of these to be so long. XD

(Set vaguely after chapter 5 of Someplace Like Home.)


Shiro found Keith on the training deck.

This was not, in and of itself, a surprise. Keith didn’t exactly live on the training deck, but he came closer than any of the other paladins. Keith claimed it was stress relief, Allura suspected it was a habit left over from a childhood shaped by the rigors of the Galra army, Lance called it an unhealthy level of pent-up purple-furred fury, and Shiro? Shiro thought Keith just found it easier to deal with the clear-cut win-conditions of the castle’s gladiator than the rockier terrain of social interaction.

So Shiro wasn’t surprised to find Keith already warming up against a level two gladiator when he arrived for their daily spar.

He was surprised to find Matt there with Keith, sitting against the wall with Pidge’s laptop balanced on his knees.

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Why Tumblr should do something about app tag leak issues, and why until then perhaps one shouldn’t browse Swan Queen tag on it during/after episode where the main two characters godforbid interact (and their perrty boy ain’t getting a two-hour movie) because—who the hell can stand all this whining?

In related news—this reminds me to avoid any fandom in future with whiney man-pain idiocy. In defence of CS’ers, An’E did sort of (really a lot) encourage their entitlement. And entitlement, by the way, is the flawed personality characteristic common to all or most serial killers, of which the United States has an abundance. Coincidence? That their media system encourages rampant misogyny while their social terrain is full of…well, misogynist acts? That’s a chicken/egg question that should be part of mainstream curriculum at some point. And in the meantime, we still have to deal with these arsewipes. If nothing, then because ultimately these are the very same people who get aggressively spiteful and malicious when their (whiney manpain-ey) ship loses polls–so they have power hours for voting against other ships?