so many moments I could have giffed from last night's episode and I chose this one


The Many Faces of Victor Nikiforov - Episode 3

And we’re back with episode 3! There’s actually a lot to be said about Victor here even though the focus isn’t on him most of the time. We get to see the choreo for Eros and Agape for the first time, get some more insight in how Victor acts around people other than Yuuri, and truly get introduced to Victor the Coach for the first time.

Again, I’d like to delve into this set and look at the specific scenes chosen. I hope everyone enjoys!

We start off with the intro choreo to Agape. When I chose this gif, I found myself stuck between three different options: the intro, the close-up of him skating with his fingers steepled, and the ending. In the end, I realized it didn’t matter because I had the same thing to talk about for all of them. With the intro, we see Victor reaching out with open hands as if to bring something into himself, in the middle it seems as if he is thankful and holding something gently, and at the end he presses back out from his chest with his hands firmly clasped. If we combine this with the concept of agape – unconditional love – we can see a possible interpretation of bringing love into oneself, holding it gently, then, with a firm grasp on it, giving back. I’ll talk a bit more about the meaning of the Eros and Agape routines in respect to Victor in a few, but I still felt the choreo was interesting in the respect that it also tells a story – a story of the acceptance of outside love, of cherishing that love, and of giving it back.

The second and third gifs I’d like to first talk about as a pair. Both are from the Eros choreo, but if you look at Victor’s expressions, are almost complete opposites on the emotional spectrum. The first looks to be confident and suave, and the second looks so vulnerable and sad that I couldn’t help but wonder at the contrast. Then I thought about the story of Eros, how it tells a story of a playboy who goes after “the most beautiful woman” (I say that in quotations because there’s actually no woman in this tale, it’s actually a man stealing the heart of another man then disappearing from his sight). Then I started to question the choreo in this program, whose perspective is it being told from? In the end, I came to the conclusion that it’s both. We see the playboy at the start (the first of these two gifs) and at the end when there’s a pushing away gesture. As for the jilted man, we see him in that second of the two gifs. Victor undoubtedly gets lost in his skating and his expressions become very telling as to the emotional meaning behind the programs he’s skating.

On that note, let’s look at these two individually. The suave, seductive look at the beginning of the program to me always looks so empty. After you get past the initial heart-eyed reaction of Victor looking that way in your direction, you start to see how devoid of emotions that expression really is. What we’re actually watching is Victor’s media face in action. I feel there are a couple of reasons for this but the primary one is simply that Victor is not a playboy. He tells this story with two parts within Eros’ program, but he at heart is not and has never been a playboy. So the only way he knows how to portray something like that is through his carefully crafted image that relies entirely on the watchers being too smitten with him to catch the fact that there’s nothing of him actually in it. In most cases, it takes multiple watches of this particular Victor smile to catch it but when you see it, it’s really difficult to unsee.

On the other hand, we get the third gif of this set, where he looks so incredibly sad during the Eros choreo. If you check out Yuuri skating the exact same clip, you can see that his face is completely different (confident even), which says to me that Victor’s expression here is intentional on the side of the creative team. The reason for that? This is Victor emulating the man who was seduced and then abandoned, left with his own thoughts for three months and attempting to figure out what exactly happened the night he was (quite literally) swept off his feet. We don’t know if this expression existed at this point in the program before Victor came to Hasetsu, but the fact that this is not the face of the playboy within the story is undeniable. And the sadness we can see painted on Victor’s face is a clear indicator of how he feels in this position at this point in time. Unlike when he tries to play the part of the playboy, this role is much truer to him. We are looking at the true Victor Nikiforov, unshielded and wearing his heart on his sleeve. Truly, something that one can only see on the ice.

This fourth gif… well, I could say a lot of things, but they would mostly be stating the obvious. He’s gunning really hard for Yuuri in this moment, both (I think) because he wants Yuuri as well as because he knows Yuuri wants him. Victor isn’t as oblivious to Yuuri’s interest as Yuuri thinks (or rather, hopes) he is, even if Yuuri keeps trying to run away from it. That said, if you compare this Victor, who is actively trying to seduce Yuuri and show him “what Eros is to him” to the suave look at the start of Victor’s rendition of Eros, it brings to light just how false the look in the Eros choreo is. Because if this look here is genuine, then there’s no way that the look in the program is too.

Even though the face in this fifth gif is meant to be comedic, I can’t help but think deeply about this scene. This is the face Victor wears immediately after Yurio calls him out for saying that Agape isn’t a program where one shows off their confidence, and yet still skates it so confidently. Victor then gets asked what Agape is to him and he deflects the question back onto Yurio with an overly bright smile and a flimsy answer – “you just feel it, how am I supposed to tell you?”. What this says to me isn’t that Victor is some sort of genius, as others in-show continue to say he is, but quite the opposite (in terms of his own emotional awareness and how that comes out in his skating, anyway). Victor skates out his feelings, the same way that Yuuri does, and that always reflects into his programs. But, as we can see if we look at Stammi in episode 1 and combine it with the knowledge that he was lonely but didn’t know it, he isn’t always fully aware of the full emotional depth to these programs in regards to himself. So, if we assume that Victor’s confusion and obvious diversion mean that he doesn’t know what Agape the program means to him, then can we figure it out? I think so. There are many things that agape as a base concept could mean for Victor – it could mean Makkachin, his skating family, or his fans, among others. What I think it means, when you take in the entirety of the program’s meaning and how he skates it, is that it’s a love letter to his audience. It’s always looked to me like a complete story. Going back up to the first gif, where I described Agape as an acceptance of love and a giving back, I feel that we can apply that here. The program also feels like an all-encompassing gesture, almost like a goodbye of sorts. We can look at Eros and Agape as programs that are 2 sides of the same coin. If Eros is Victor’s struggles to move on to a new part of his life (a beginning), then Agape is his struggles to move on from his past and present (an end). So, even if Victor doesn’t realize it, I think that Agape was meant to be a goodbye to his skating career. He knew his time was coming, and while he didn’t want to let it go, he also knew it was almost time. And so, Agape was born as a way to say to his audience, “thank you for the love and support you have given me all this time”. Truly “Agape” indeed.

Returning to the comedy, this sixth gif is pretty much a clip of Victor’s suffering in action. Just earlier that week he shoved his face right up in Yuuri’s, got the guy all flustered, and asked him what Eros meant to him. And the answer that Yuuri came to was food. FOOD. Not only does Victor know that this isn’t what Yuuri’s Eros actually is (he knows it’s him), it doesn’t even make sense to the story of the program. From a more outside perspective, sure, food can make sense if you only look at the written definition for desire, but on a conceptual level, what Eros as a program truly embodies, katsudon couldn’t make any less sense. Unfortunately, there’s not much more Victor can do other than scream internally about Yuuri’s obtuseness to the entire concept of sexuality that seems to only exist when he’s sober.

Or he can go drown his frustrations in alcohol, which is what he ends up doing. Throwing his responsibilities for the night out the window, he decides that drinking until dawn is the best way to come to terms with his current situation. As comedic as this scene is initially played out to be, it actually brings up a serious underlying issue. When Victor doesn’t know what to do with his emotions, or he feels lost, he drowns his sorrows in alcohol. Whether he even realizes he’s doing this, we can’t know for sure because he’s never mentioned it himself but I worry both for his kidney and his mental health that this seems to not just be a one-off occurrence but a habit. Even if you factor in the possible use of the Russians being heavy drinkers stereotype, the fact that Victor is shown drinking every night since he arrives in Hasetsu and then goes off to get smashed after getting ignored (yet again) by Yuuri before proceeding to coach with a hangover in the middle of an intense training week doesn’t speak well to how he processes his unpleasant emotions and situations.

The third to last choice is a gif, even if it’s not moving. I chose this still image shot specifically because it presents us a view of Victor with a very uniquely complicated expression and none of the other shots of him during this scene really portray how far into his own head he is in this moment. I feel that this is Victor when he realizes he’s at a crossroads in his life and there’s nothing more he can do to affect the outcome. He’s taking a moment before he needs to go out and judge both Yuris’ skating to consider what either result will mean for him. On one hand, if Yurio outperforms Yuuri, which Victor at this point know is the most probable given what he’s seen over the last week, then he will need to give up on the spark of hope he felt from the banquet, the viral Stammi video, and saw in Yuuri himself when he accepted Eros. Victor would return to Russia, to the place that he felt was suffocating him, as a coach and not even a skater. He knows that his heart doesn’t want this, even if his logical mind knows that if Yuuri can’t perform to his potential then it’s what he’s promised to both of them. For Yuuri, the only way he could outperform Yurio would be to show Victor that spark that was shown within the viral video, to reawaken the side of himself that he showed Victor at the banquet, and to channel the confidence he had when he was first assigned Eros and demanded Victor stay if he won. For Victor to get the outcome he wants, Yuuri is going to need to pull out all the stops and show to the world (or at least those watching this ice show) the potential that Victor has seen only in small spurts so far. Looking forward from there, Victor knows that working with Yuuri isn’t going to be straightforward, but it’s still what his heart desires. He knows he has a bias, but as much as Yurio yells about Victor breaking a promise by coming to Japan (he didn’t, he still choreographed a debut program for him), he is still a man of his word and will go back to Russia if Yuuri can’t show Victor right here and now that that spark still exists. In light of all that, it’s no wonder Victor foregoes the pep talks during the warm-ups!

This second to last gif was the moment that spawned a world of controversy when this episode first aired. There were many people who initially found it hard to believe that Victor could take a situation involving Yuuri this seriously, but now that we’ve learned so much more about him, we can look at this scene a lot more critically. The thing that stands out to me the most is Victor’s honesty. Yuuri confides to Victor, through his actions more than his words, that he’s anxious but is swallowing down that emotion for the sake of showing Victor that he is all that Victor has seen in him. That he can perform up to Victor’s standards. And Victor takes this seriously and honestly. Victor does care about Yuuri, on every level that this question could imply. Yuuri wasn’t looking for a response when he admitted his worries to Victor through seeking out a comfort hug but he got one anyway. Victor reassured Yuuri on a deeper level than just “I’m looking forward to your skating”. He was assured that Victor is there for more than that, as well as for more than flirting, but for Yuuri as an entire individual. And Victor wants nothing more in this moment than to see Yuuri succeed. Victor does still want to stay in Japan, and he lets Yuuri know this through the exact words he uses – a direct response to Yuuri’s wish for if he wins, to continue eating katsudon with Victor. As tough as Victor has had it since he got to Japan, he still doesn’t want to leave. And I think this is exactly what Yuuri needed in that moment; honesty, and the reassurance that his feelings were reciprocated.

This last gif is one of the first real glimpses we get of Victor the Coach. Even at this early point, we can attribute his pat on the back then instant critique way of greeting Yuuri as he came off the ice as an emulation of the coaching style that he has had used with himself for years. Victor would have definitely seen how other coach and skater pairs interacted, but the only real long-lasting experience he’s had with a coach has been with Yakov. We know from watching the show that Victor’s coaching style evolves (and quite rapidly) to suit Yuuri’s needs but it’s fascinating to see where he begins, and how confused he is when it very obviously doesn’t work with his student.

That ended up becoming a lot longer than I initially planned but it turns out I had a lot of thoughts, especially concerning Victor’s portrayal and interpretations of Eros and Agape. If you got this far then I hope you enjoyed and if the wall of text was too much then I still hope you liked the gifset regardless! Thanks for reading! :)

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Bonus because I can never get enough of Victor skating:

Star Trek: DS9 Notes - S7, Vol. 4

Slightly delayed, greatly enjoyed.

7x15 ‘Badda-Bing Badda-Bang’
- holy heck did I black out or something is that why I had not remembered reading “HEIST EPISODE” in @rainbowritesprimer?? AKA MY DREAM. not even this taking place in the Vic-world can bring me down!
- Vic: “I don’t look good in buckskin.”
  Miles: [chuckles way more than anticipated]

well 100% is there an inside joke here

- damn Vic’s just got a whole lot more interesting
- aww, Nog’s loyalty has been ACTIVATED. always one of his strongest traits.
- Frankie Eyes is what’s called a jack-in-the-box. Felix designed it. well I’ll be.
- Julian: “Vic Fontaine’s hotel has just been bought by…gangsters.”
  Sisko: “I see. When do you plan on going back to work?”


- omg, now Kasidy’s fretting about Vic’s too! Ben cannot believe these dweebs he lives with

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Why I think Mizumono (02x13) made Hannigram without doubt canon

I’ve been quite hesitant to admit to the fact that I ship Will and Hannibal. 

Because despite all the clues and hints we’ve been getting for this second season, despite the script and the creator of the show giving us full reason to believe there’s something between them; I’ve been afraid of getting disappointed. I’m used to getting disappointed. I think all other shippers can agree with me here. We’re so damn used to getting disappointed, I didn’t want to fully embrace WillxHannibal as a ship.
After the finale, however, I have no problem doing just that. 
Because last night came the final proof, the big bang, the thing we’ve all been waiting for yet weren’t entirely ready or hoping for- the final proof that whatever was between Hannibal Lecter and Will Graham was far from just friendship. 
This is what we know for sure:

 Hannibal was genuinely hurt. Hannibal smells Freddie on Will and realizes he’s being lured into a trap, and what does he do? During their next dinner, he says (strongly suggests/implies) that he will forgive Will if he only admits what he’s done. Hannibal, the cannibalistic monster, will forgive the man that he just realized has been playing him. And this is Hannibal we’re talking about- despite all cannibal, sadistic and unjustified murders he has done as the monster, he suddenly is reminded that he’s very, very human. He’s giving someone an out, an opportunity to come clean last minute. And he’s hurt. He’s feeling betrayed, hurt, angry, agony… He’s feeling things many of us were not even sure he could feel- and all because of Will Graham. And for what other reason than love? Hannibal’s impulse for years has been to murder. To satisfy his needs, his curiosity. At times he has been a monster, but in this moment he’s not. He’s so unbelievable human and fuck, it hurts. Will’s seduction left Hannibal wounded, Bryan Fuller even said so himself.  

 (gif) Hannibal’s endgame was to be with Will. You can interpret how Hannibal wants to “be with” Will any way you want, but there’s no denying that Hannibal wanted Will to come with him- he wanted a future with him. He wanted a new life, a better one, with Will. And that right there, is amazing. Because Hannibal has not let himself come this close to anyone ever, his sisters death assured him of that. But then came Will Graham and everything changed. Will is the only person Hannibal could consider an equal, enough that he would go through all the trouble that he did to create an escape plan. He could have left without him, could have gone before he got caught. He could have run and never looked back. Jack would still be alive. Alana would still be alive. Abigail would still be alive. But he didn’t, because he couldn’t leave Will. He chose the small opportunity of a life with Will over himself. And I think that is the most Hannibal have been able to do for a person since his sister died.  


Will couldn’t see it coming. Now that’s the part that completely shatters my heart. Because Will, despite all of his preparation, despite his game and despite his lure, could not foresee Hannibal’s plan coming. Will had done so cleverly, setting Hannibal up like that, but there was one thing he did wrong; He underestimated Hannibal’s feelings towards him. He knew the other cared, obsessed, and he used it against him, and yet he had no idea Hannibal would go as far as he did. Because Will still saw Hannibal as a monster, unable of feeling anything for him other than a need to control and obsess and manipulate. He knew Hannibal had a weak spot for him, but he didn’t know just how far he was willing to go. He never thought he’d see Abigail, he could have never imagined Hannibal cared enough to keep her for him;

so he could be happy. 



Hannibal fucking cried.


Now where does this leave us? I don’t know about you, but this moment right here is what made me (and Will Graham) go “shit, this is love”. 

(gif) Look at him. Just look at him. It’s a face of desperation, of regret, of hope and exhaustion. Because Will saw Hannibal, he saw him and he betrayed him and it isn’t until now that he fully realizes just how much of a power he had to hurt Hannibal- how much Hannibal needed him. Loved him. The way he clutches to Hannibal after he’s killed, the way he lets himself be held like that. There’s no confusion anymore, Will has finally figured Hannibal out- and it’s the most heartbreaking thing in the world. 
(gif) But he’s glad, he’s glad because he finally did it. He seduced Hannibal, he hurt him, and he changed him. He changed the man that couldn’t be changed, hurt the man that always hurt. And Hannibal let him do it. 

Keep in mind that I’m not saying Hannibal’s someone he isn’t. He’s cruel, he’s twisted, he’s a murderer and a cannibal. He’s done the most terrible things to the least deserving people. I’m not ignoring that. I’m certainly not defending it. However, despite the monster he’s been, this episode showed us that Hannibal could indeed love, and he did, with all that was left of his heart. I don’t think the love Hannibal had for Will, and the love Will came to have for Hannibal, was normal- It was dark and strange and selfish. Nevertheless, it was love. 

Riarkle vs Rucas in GM The Truth

(I haven’t slept in over 24 hours so this won’t be as…composed as I’d like it to be, but I’ve wanted to rant about this since the episode literally aired so w/e)

Okay, to begin: Fuck Romeo and Juliet.

I mean, it’s one of my favorite plays if I’m being honest, but fuck, do tv shows over use it so much. Like I can think of so many shows from when I was a kid, that when they wanted to have the main character freak out over their first kiss, they were cast as a lead in Romeo and Juliet opposite their crush. And theeeeen, something whacky happens to prevent it from happening anyway, and maybe if you were lucky, you’d get a cute scene between the two of them at the end of the episode laughing about it. It’s so overdone and tired.

And that’s why I really like how gmw did it.

Okay, so I’m going to start this with three questions. 1) Does everyone remember Romeo and Juliet being mentioned in bmw?, and 2) Why hadn’t Riley and Lucas kissed in rehearsal?, and 3) Why did they use that specific scene?

BMW referenced Shakespeare plays…like, a lot. But they only ever brought up Romeo and Juliet when they wanted to emphasize that it was a tragedy. Like, there are literally scenes where Cory is using it because he hadn’t finished the play so all he knew was “big epic love story” and it made him think of him and Topanga. He was using Romeo and Juliet to describe their relationship and Feeny had him skip ahead to the end to get him to stop. They never painted Romeo and Juliet as a beautiful love story, the epitome of romance, like so many other shows/movies/books have. So it makes you wonder why, even so early on, they’d have Lucas and Riley playing the parts? When they were still being presented to the audience as the Next Corpanga. And of course this brings me to wonder what their rehearsals were like? How had Riley and Lucas never kissed before the night of the performance. No director would be chill with that unless they were going to cut the kiss altogether, or had ultimately agreed upon a stage kiss (which seems more likely with 12 year olds in a school play). But also…Romeo and Juliet kiss earlier in the play. Which brings me to:

The scene they chose was very important. Every time, and I mean every time, people try to use Romeo and Juliet to emphasize romance, they use the balcony scene. It’s where they first profess their love and share their first kiss. It’s an important scene. Every time someone wants to have the show’s main “to-be” couple deal with their feelings/first kiss/overall chemistry, and they’re in Romeo and Juliet, you always see them sweating over the balcony scene. Because it’s always meant to symbolize the beginning. The balcony scene is the beginning of Romeo and Juliet’s relationship, and it’s so sweet to watch that when they don’t focus on the rest of the show, you never seem to remember that the plays a tragedy. So we’re what, 5 episodes into this brand new show, and they’ve shoved Lucas and Riley as the OTP in our face, and we’re about to see them have their first kiss Romeo and Juliet style. So what scene do they decide to use?

The Death Scene

For anyone who doesn’t know, Juliet is drugged but Romeo thinks she’s dead. He kisses her lips one last time, then kills himself. She wakes up, realizes what’s happened, and stabs herself in the stomach with his dagger. How fucking romantic, amirite? Eyes look your last/ Arms they take your last embrace/ And lips, oh you the doors of death/ Seal with a righteous kiss. That is the stuff of true, lasting soul mates right there, guys. That’s the line Lucas was reciting right before his big “moment” was supposed to happen. No comparing her to the sun or the moon or a summers day. Lucas’s “moment” as he called it was literally kissing her before they die. Doesn’t anyone find it a little funny looking back now, seeing as from the moment they kiss in ‘First Date’, Riley and Lucas have literally only gone downhill? In GM Truth, of all the potential scenes they could have gone with, they decide to have Riley and Lucas act out a kiss before a tragic end to a very short relationship. Can anyone tell me what foreshadowing is?

But, even more important: they never get to the kiss. Lucas doesn’t finish his lines and die, and Riley’s not so despaired she ends her life, And you know why we don’t see it getting that far?

Farkle swoops in. 

Tiny little Farkle, with his bowl cut and tooth gap and plastic spear, swoops in to “save” his “woman” from Lucas. And I mean, put yourself in Riley’s shoes for a second here. You’re a 12 year old girl, you’ve got the starring role in your school play and your ~hunky~ crush is just about to kiss you. Then all of the sudden, your friend bursts in and ruins the whole show. The whole finale- you don’t get your kiss, you don’t get to deliver the big ending monologue you spent so much time practicing, your best friend who you always feel you’re in the shadow of is brought on stage to lay next to you. The show’s a mess and everyone is there to see it happen, and the boy who ruined the whole thing for you isn’t even sorry/doesn’t seem to realize he’s done anything wrong. Wouldn’t you be pissed? Even a little bit? Wouldn’t you maybe yell at him, or try to get him off the stage, or give him a cold shoulder when you see him later? At the very least scowl at him or something.

But Riley’s not mad at Farkle. Just look at her face when he comes on and interrupts the scene- Lucas looks startled and annoyed the longer it goes on, but Riley just rolls her eyes and smiles fondly- her special Farkle Smile- as if she had totally expected this to happen. It really makes me think of the look of sheer Exasperated Fondness that Topanga gives Cory, like, all the time. And Riley gets it on her face whenever Farkle does anything extra Farkly. But this specific moment, when he’s making a fool out of himself onstage, has always immediately put me in mind of the episode where Cory and Shawn made a fake band. Cory made a complete idiot of himself in front of the whole school, but Topanga was there, all smiles and tender eyes because “I don’t care that you can’t play the guitar, you just looked so cute up there!” Like…it’s literally the exact expression Riley has on her face in this scene. Someone please gif it for me or something. She doesn’t care that he’s essentially ruining what could be a big moment for her. You can see her giving him this look at least once an episode. She’s exasperated, yes, but you bet your ass she probably thinks it’s the sweetest thing in the world that Farkle feels the need to “defend” her. Riley is the one who has never really seemed to mind Farkle’s feelings for her. There might be a few instances of her being embarrassed by one of his proclamations, but she never really seems annoyed by him or his feelings. She has a completely different way of responding to them than Maya does. So, yeah, she really wanted to kiss Lucas and have her 15 minutes of fame. But despite that, she clearly thinks it’s sweet Farkle felt the need to go to the lengths that he did to make sure Lucas doesn’t 'steal’ her from him or something.

“But I’m supposed to kiss the girl, Shakespeare said!” Yeah, Lucas, sweetie. He did. But then he also said that you lead to her downfall. We didn’t get to see you comparing Riley the Sun for a reason, bucko. We got you reciting the lines that literally end up ruining Juliet. But, oh wait, didn’t Farkle already compare her to the Sun four episodes before this…? Yikes.

And every time so far we’ve seen Riley being upset over Lucas drama, who’s the guy that swoops in, reads her like a book, and does everything he can to make her feel better? Oh, yeah, Farkle. What a coincidence.

And then, Riley spends the rest of the episode protecting Farkle. Like, what, a week, trying to make sure he doesn’t find out people have been making fun of him and talking about what a bad actor he is and how he ruined the show. Her big starring moment was ruined, Riley, the girl who only wants to find a thing she’s good at so she can feel like she fits in somewhere. Her big moment was taken from her, and instead of being upset, she dedicates her time and effort to make sure the guy that ruined it doesn’t get upset. She knows he loves acting and thought he did a good job, and doesn’t want to break his heart. Like, seriously, look at her face when she sees him laying on the stage because the director banned him and he figured out how bad he was. She almost looks more upset than he does! This girl literally says “I’m sorry that I could never bring myself to hurt you!”. Oh my God. And the fact that her internal dilemma wasn’t even that she was lying, just that she was lying to Farkle. She was lying to him to protect him and keep him happy, but she was being torn up about keeping something from him.

“We don’t lie to each other, Riley!”

And then, even though Shakespeare said Romeo/Lucas was “supposed to kiss the girl”…We don’t get that. We get Farkle kissing Riley in their very own Corpanga Parallel. (Didn’t Cory eventually say he and Topanga were better than Romeo and Juliet once he read the end?) Does no one else find it funny that just like we’re told Romeo has to kiss Juliet, we were told Lucas was Riley’s Topanga, that they were supposed to be, but the very first Big-In-Your-Face-Corpanga parallel we get is between Riley and Mr. Farkle Changing the Storyline Spear Carrier Minkus?

And then Lucas says “I just can’t believe that little guy stole my moment!” Which of course, brings to mind “She ends up with Farkle…How did we not see that coming?”

I’m about to fall asleep at my desk so…I rest my case.