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Severus: “Thought we were supposed to be friends? Best friends?”
Lily: “We are, Sev.” 

This is one of my favorite parts of this book, because it’s so apparent from how the rest of the staff is talking that they’ve ranted mercilessly about every bullshit thing Lockhart has ever said/done behind his back. It makes me really sad that Hogwarts professors will never have iPhones, because their group messages would be fucking hilarious. Can you imagine them sitting in the Great Hall for dinner and just ranting to each other via text about every stupid thing Lockhart is saying immediately after he says it?

YOU KNOW WHAT WE NEED? A MARAUDERS TV SHOW. STARTING MARAUDERS’ FIRST YEAR AND FINALE WOULD BE HALLOWEEN 1981. THE SHOW WOULD TAKE FOCUS ON JILY, WOLFSTAR, LILY’S FRIENDSHIP WITH SNAPE, PREJUDICE ABOUT MUGGLEBORNS, THE FIRST WIZARDING WAR, ORDER OF THE PHOENIX, AND SO ON. THAT WOULD BE AWESOME AND THAT’S WHAT WE NEED.

What I say: I love this villain because he feels real. Not every villain is nuanced enough to be so, but certainly most heroes are limited to choices of little weight, since anything too drastically afar from the moral standard might lead him to fall from the viewer’s grace. No big mistakes, no big character development. Not far from what is expected from us by decency, not far from a God or a perfect robot. I like to see villains that pull a string in people, that inch we are not suppose to have, but do. Villains who make huge mistakes while thinking they are justified, while wanting to love and be loved in return, villains that sabotage themselves with their destructive attitudes, bad guys who act according to their values and believes, not just for the LOLs of evil. This character is reliable and interesting, even if he never finds a better road.

What antis hear:

I’d like to point out to all the Billy Hargrove sympathizers, that Billy is almost strangely like Jonathan Byers. Abusive dad, misunderstood, repressed. He has a lot of responsibility put on his shoulders, he’s supposed to take care of his younger sibling… 

But here’s the catch, Jonathan Byers does not take out his problems on an innocent child or people who don’t deserve it. Jonathan Byers loves his little brother, Jonathan Byers does what he can to help his family despite it all. 

Jonathan and Billy are both products of their environment, yes, but in the same way of the Harry vs. Snape debacle… Your past does not define you, you make your own damn choices and you can decide to lash out at people or grow from everything and be a good person despite everyone going against you.

Do not sympathize with Billy Hargrove. I don’t care if he’s gay and lashing out because his dad caught him with some guy. I don’t care if he’s being abused, it gives him absolutely no right to abuse a little girl and go after her friends. 

Being abused does not give you the right to become an abuser. 

End of story.

honestly snape’s poverty is part of the reason why i don’t really believe the idea that snape thinks he’s entitled to lily. lily is a well-to-do girl from the “right” side of town, middle-class and prosperous. her family is a “good” family - and snape is as aware of this as petunia is, though for wildly different reasons. 

i would argue that snape KNOWS lily’s “too good” for him (or, in reality, just from a different background). that snape uses his knowledge of magic to befriend her because it’s the only thing he really has to offer for someone with lily’s life - and when they go to hogwarts, he doesn’t have that any more, so why would she stay his friend? 

idk a lot of snape’s interactions with lily read a little desperate to me, not entitled. he doesn’t want her to abandon him because, i think, he’s so very aware that she can - and that a lot of people think she should. and that gets driven home during their fifth year (when she tells him as much) but i’m not sure that it was always a blood issue or even an issue of death eaters vs the order - class differences can be hugely difficult barriers to friendships and romance and are usually actively discouraged by parents and friends alike. there’s a REASON petunia doesn’t want to hang out with snape and it’s not because he calls her a muggle - she doesn’t want to BEFORE that. she knows he’s from the “wrong” side of town, she knows he’s poor, and she’s either learned or seen that she, being from middle-class background, shouldn’t be hanging out with him. that lily decides to do so is almost entirely because of what snape can offer her and lily’s own kindness. 

so i don’t think snape feels “entitled” to lily. i think snape, more than anyone, is aware how easily lily can leave him. i’ve said this before, but i very much read teenage!snape as always waiting for the other shoe to drop with lily - and that’s why he clings that much harder. healthy? well no. lily is (as far as we know) snape’s only real friend however - i’d be pretty desperate and unhealthy too if i thought that the slightest thing would break that. 

also that’s probably why it galls even more to think lily would go out with james - not only is this guy snape’s bully and tormentor, but he’s also the guy with everything snape doesn’t have, the kind of guy lily “should” be hanging out with. when snape hears that it’s probably like a warning bell: if she has sjames, how long until she drops you? not even just because james would probably try to stop her from hanging out with snape - but james would also give her the kinds of things snape just never really can (in terms of material goods, traveling, etc not necessarily emotional needs). 

idk. it’s really really rough for me to see snape as “entitled” to lily when there’s so obviously a kind of power differential between them - and lily’s the one holding the cards, not snape. lily’s always the one who can leave and i think snape is more aware of that than anyone.

A Study On Patronuses

Ok so I’ve seen a lot of posts lately about James Potter’s patronus vs Snape’s patronus. People have been talking about how since James’s is a stag, he complements Lily, and it means he loves her, while Snape’s doe shows his obsession with her. (Obviously since Lily’s patronus is a doe) And there’s been talk about how “love is different than obsession and this is why Snape didn’t *really* love her, and that’s why she would always have chosen James blah blah.”

I’m not arguing the fact that she would’ve always chosen James. James and Lily have complementary patronuses. Lily is a doe, and James is a stag. Their patronuses were not influenced by each other, but they are a pair because they themselves fit as a pair. Their personalities and experiences make them alike and compatible.

But Snape having the same patronus as Lily doesn’t make him obsessed with her.

Expecto Patronum literally translates to “I await a guardian.”

A patronus takes the form of an animal, and the charm becomes semi-sentient, seemingly with a mind of its own.

The Patronus is a protector against dementors, which take good memories and leave only bad ones.

What form a person’s patronus takes is dependent on their personality, their experiences, and their good and bad memories.

Harry’s patronus is a stag, like his father’s. THAT IS PIVOTAL BECAUSE IT IS STRESSED THAT HARRY’S PATRONUS IS **THE SAME AS HIS FATHER’S.**

Throughout his years at Hogwarts, Harry uses the idea of his father as a shield and almost like a security blanket. He decides to die on his feet, *like his father.*

He plays Quidditch, *like his father.*

He looks like his father. He “struts” like his father.

The idea of his father as a hero he can emulate gives him strength.

And Harry is very like his father. But he is also an individual, with a very different personality, and very different experiences.

Harry’s patronus isn’t a stag.

Harry’s patronus is his father.

His father is the guardian that he holds and the ideal and role model that he expects to see him through dark times.

When saving Sirius from the dementor’s kiss, his intention is to protect an innocent man, and his godfather, but more importantly his dad’s best friend. He draws on James and what he knows of him, and his patronus takes the form of a stag…

Not because he’s so like his father that they have the same patronus, but because James is Harry’s patronus.

That established, Snape’s patronus is a doe for similar reasons. Snape loved Lily. He was influenced by her. She was his happy memory. In dark times, Snape held on to the thought of Lily, as is apparent from his years of bitterness risking his life and protecting her son.

When Snape casts a patronus in the astronomy tower, Dumbledore asks, “Lily? After all this time?”

Snape’s patronus isn’t a doe because he’s obsessed with Lily.

His patronus *is* Lily. Lily is his unwitting guardian against the dark, just as James is for Harry.

Snape’s patronus may take the form of a doe, just as Harry’s patronus takes the form of a stag, but their patronuses are Lily and James.

And I don’t mean that the souls of Lily and James are chilling out around town to pop up and save Snape and Harry from dementors when the need arises, but the essence of Lily and James, the memory of them, the idea of them, the comfort they bring, are the patronuses. Snape’s patronus looks like a doe because Lily’s patronus is a doe and Snape’s patronus is Lily redeeming him. Harry’s patronus looks like a stag because James’s patronus was a stag and Harry’s patronus is his father protecting him.

Snape’s patronus being a doe doesn’t mean he’s obsessed with her. He loves her. His patronus is a doe because he sees Lily as his protector and his guardian, as he did in school, and as he “always” will.

These have been my feelings. Thank you very much.

Originally posted by jecamartinez

Originally posted by theglass-ballerina

Do you realize that James Potter was literally the arrogant, popular, rich guy, who’s part of the school team of everyone’s favorite sport and goes around with his mates bullying other students just because he can? We all know one of those guys. Basically every book, movie and tv show about high school ever have one of those. His one redeeming quality is being loyal to his “bros” (which those guys usually are, you know, constantly covering up each other’s shit). He’s the typical douchebag.

Severus Snape is living proof that even if you aren’t a villain, you can still be a “bad guy.”