sierra madre mountains of western mexico

anonymous asked:

What do you think of so many vegans on YouTube and also just in general adding more whole plant fats into their diet and all saying they feel/look better?? It's so confusing!!!

I think vegans with large audiences should be encouraged to take classes in Plant Based Nutrition and go to plant based nutrition conferences to really help their audience vs spreading confusion, misinformation and making the vegan diet look ridiculous by being so full of ever shifting nonsense and pseudoscience.  The actual science and reputable & esteemed experts are clicks or emails away from helping, there is no excuse when they all readily lend themselves to help the community.  My 1st stop for most of the difficult stuff is Jeff Novick RD.  You can see his CV here

Jeff has also taught nutrition classes at Indiana State University, Indiana University Medical School, the University of Miami Medical School and for the Florida Academy of Family Physicians and has lectured at medical conference around the country. While in Indiana, he created and taught the Nutrition Education Initiative, a preventive medicine curriculum for medical doctors, residents, and medical students. In recognition of this groundbreaking project, Indiana’s governor awarded him the Indiana State Public Health Excellence in Health Science Award, and Indiana State University awarded him the Graduate-of-the-Last-Decade Award.

Esteemed public educator on nutrition in one corner vs youtuber able to harness millions of views…  why can’t people with the largest audiences put aside themselves and plug in these experts?

I shared this Video below from Jeff in our WSLF group today when the topic of nuts came up.  I think the most overlooked part in this video is the Narcissism of Small Differences.  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissism_of_small_differences

The narcissism of small differences (German: der Narzissmus der kleinen Differenzen) is the thesis that it is precisely communities with adjoining territories and close relationships that engage in constant feuds and mutual ridicule because of hypersensitivity to details of differentiation.[1] The term was coined by Sigmund Freud in 1917

Remind anyone of veganism?  

American psychiatrist Glen O. Gabbard has suggested that Freud’s narcissism of small differences provides a framework to understand that in a loving relationship, there can be a need to find, and even exaggerate, differences in order to preserve a feeling of separateness and self.

With all that in mind, does adding more nuts, avocado & olives to a diet have any basis for improving a vegan diet?  It depends, if it was a vegetable based or fruit based diet then perhaps the added calories helped with people who were starving themselves unknowingly on poorly planned diets.  Did they need the fat for nutrient absorption?  That can be summarily debunked because tubers have higher bioavailability of fat soluble vitamin A & a plant based diet is already going to be very high in those vitamins, but don’t take my word for it, here is the science -> https://www.nap.edu/read/9810/chapter/10#356 You are talking about people turning ORANGE from eating sweet potatoes saying they need fat to absorb more carotenoids?  WTF….  

I do not see the obsession in this culture with “added” fats. As I pointed out, everything we eat has naturally occurring fat in it, and some plant foods much more than you think. I gave 3 examples. Oatmeal is 16% fat.

The Okinawans, back in the 50s before they got westernized (who are now the longest lived population with more people over 100 then anywhere else) ate a diet that was around 9% fat with no added oils. So do the Taramhumara and Pima Indians in the Sierra Madre mountains of Mexico as did the original Hawaiians. All these diets were less than 10% fat and they were all known for their health. This info is published in mainstream medical journals. And, when we re-create these diets and put people on them today, they experience dramatic improvements in their health, very quickly.

In Health
Jeff Novick, MS, RD

So my own takeaway is if adding richer foods is helping you I’d look into other reasons, like low caloric intake from a raw vegan diet.  I personally think all whole plant foods are healthful & as long as the focus of the meal is starch, they can be incorporated as condiments provided saturated fat is kept under 5% of total cals with coconut, for example.  That is what we share in WSLF.  You don’t need to pour fat on your food, you need to put food in your mouth & chew & use the richer plant foods to impart their unique flavors.  

“In summary, only a small amount of dietary fat (2.4 g/meal, or 21 g/d) is needed for optimal utilization of plant provitamin A carotenoids. The poor or marginal vitamin A status observed in the study participants at baseline cannot be attributed to insufficient fat intakes, but rather to insufficient intakes of food sources of vitamin A.”

Carotene-rich plant foods ingested with minimal dietary fat enhance the total-body vitamin A pool size in Filipino schoolchildren as assessed by stable-isotope-dilution methodology. Randomized controlled trial. Ribaya-Mercado JD, et al. Am J Clin Nutr. 2007 Apr;85(4):1041-9.

I’ve posted before on fat & hormones & the same conclusion, its starving people who have problems and more calorically dense foods help them meet their caloric requirements & get adequate protein for hormone formation. 

https://www.forksoverknives.com/hormones-matter-three-ways-mess/

https://www.forksoverknives.com/3-strategies-keep-sex-hormones-balanced/

https://www.drmcdougall.com/health/education/health-science/common-health-problems/hormone-dependent-diseases-male-female/

If you have another perspective and a scientific article you’d like me to discuss with the top MD’s, RD’s & researchers let me know.  I reach out for help all the time.  

How much fat do you need?  <– this topic comes up all the time.  Remember not to fall into the fallacy of “listening to my body” you need to look at your results and actual evidence based medicine to determine what is really going on.  I will repost this in a new post, but its a letter to a 10 year old from a scientist dad on the importance of evidence. https://www.brainpickings.org/2012/12/28/richard-dawkins-letter-to-daughter/