The reason why some of us are pissed at the idea of iKON using TVXQ’s
red colour as their fan colour is because red is almost synonymous with
TVXQ (in the Kpop industry etc).
red ocean signifies their hard work over the years. The red ocean
signifies their struggles and eventual breakthroughs over the course of
their hard work. The red ocean was a result of TVXQ’s continuous
efforts, and certainly not overnight.
most certainly think you cannot overlook the meaning of red for us TVXQ
fans. Red is not just a colour to us, or at least me.
thing about iKON using red as a fan colour is that it feels as though
you are snatching our identity away. It sure is easy to use a colour of
an established fandom but that surely entails lots of problems. How are
we going to tell our fandoms apart during large concerts? Red and red. How do we know whether some fans from the newer fandom will claim TVXQ’s red ocean as theirs? Again, red and red.
you realise, this isn’t the first time fans from older fandoms are
complaining that newer groups are using their fan colours. I shall not
quote examples here, but do a search on Google and I’m pretty sure you
will find a good number of examples. What I’m trying to say here is that
fan colours are not just colours to fans in that particular fandom. It
embodies them. It represents them. That’s their pride and soul.
before people start hurling attacks saying “fan colour is but just a
colour”, maybe you could put yourself into our shoes and think… For an
established fandom of close to 12 years, using their fan colour as
yours, do you think it is acceptable?
My answer is no.
a million colours out there. Go pick something and build your own fan
ocean out of it. While iKON (or YG for that fact) might have chosen red to aspire to be as
widely sucessful as TVXQ, I think it is basic courtesy you create your
own unique fan ocean instead of replicating it.
fan colour issue of iKON at one go has outraged both Shinhwa and TVXQ
fans. Both have established fandoms, Shinhwa’s fandom existed even
longer than TVXQ’s. And if fans from both fandoms are making noise
already, maybe its time you think twice about your colour selection.
“Junior-nims, orange is a color that has belonged to Shinhwa Changjo
since 1998. If possible, please avoid using the color orange. See you
when we promote next year. From Shinhwa’s Eric.”
Source: 10asia via Daum
Even Shinhwa’s Eric has responded in line with this issue.
You don’t even have to be a fan of TVXQ or Shinhwa to know that the colours red and orange belong to their fandom (respectively)!
Bottom line: Red is TVXQ. Orange is Shinhwa.
(And the only other group allowed to use red, in my opinion, is JYJ. Isn’t that why the font on the JYJ logo is red? I see no problem for that one.)
during their debut days i can laugh at how playful they were but watching this in Running Man recently brought tears to my eyes with that heart of a SHINHWA CHANGJO full or respect and love for these men..
Eric Oppa being the base carrying all their weight, Hyesung Oppa steady as he elevated, Dongwan Oppa persevering until the end, Minwoo Oppa climbing on a fast speed, Andy Oppa aiding Junjin Oppa as he climbs and there goes Jinnie Oppa giving all his strength to get the victory for his Hyungs and Dongsaeng..
One of the most precious moments in Shinhwa career. The 1st ever Daesang they get. And what makes it even more precious is its timing. It was Shinhwa’s 1st comeback, under a new agency, which they moved to, to remain & continue as a group, after their previous agency, SM, wanted to disband the group & offered a solo career to only some of the members. People around Shinhwa expected them to already disband like what was the norm back then, & even some reporters tried to bring the group down. But Shinhwa insisted on their dream & determination to continue as six. The first comeback after leaving SM in 2003 & moving to Good Int in 2004, was with the “Brand New” album .. an album of their own creation, the album that made them sweep awards, chart high, & prove to everyone the power of Shinhwa. It’s the first time in Kpop that a group gets the Daesang award after moving to a new agency.
“Until now, everyone had hoped & anticipated, but every time you linked arms over the loss of the Daesang. Today, we finally got it. Since long ago, I’ve thought of the "Daesang”, not because of Shinhwa..But because all of you, Shinhwa Changjo. “We’ve to get it for all of you”, was what I thought. I’m really happy that this wish finally came true today. I want to thank all of my beloved Shinhwa members & all our lovely fans. Thank you.“ -ERIC
“We’ll continue to keep our promise in the future 18th, 19th, 20th years..” - Junjin “The reason why we were able to have the title as the longest-running idols is because of our fans, Shinhwa Changjo.” - Minwoo
It’s almost that time of the year again where Shinhwa will be on music shows promoting their new album. Let’s be ready to do all that we can to support them.
Here is a list of things that we can do. Most of the information is word of mouthdata collected from other fans and various websites; they are not all officially confirmed. This page is just meant to describe all the possible things that we can do to support Shinhwa during their promotional activities. Corrections and additional information are welcome.
I know that this may seem like a lot of things to do, but it shouldn’t be too hard to take some time out of your day here and there to do a couple of these things. Shinhwa has continuously kept their promises and worked hard for us for the last 15 years, let’s do as much as we can to show them our appreciation. Heck, even if they don’t care about winning awards, let’s just do it out of our sheer pride of being Shinhwa Changjo. If it all seems too overwhelming, the one thing that I would recommend you do is the “Shinhwa Project” as that will be most effective in trying to improve Shinhwa’s chances of getting 1st place on music shows.
The information found in this post can also be found on this side blog I made, “Supporting Shinhwa,” for those who don’t like reading long lists and prefer an easier-to-read format.
SHCJ in Korea have set up a way to help fans from all around the world contribute to digital music scores (our contribution is usually limited without having a Korean social security number). What we can do:
They will use the accounts we make to download and purchase music. We do not have to worry about anything besides making the accounts (and it is okay if our accounts aren’t validated with a Korean SSN).
Monetary Contributions for the Purchase of Songs - Deposit funds to Shinhwa-Project’s paypal account, firstname.lastname@example.org to help them purchase the digital downloads.
- Purchasing Music through Soribada’s Global Website
Soribada is the one site that fans from around the world can easily purchase Kpop music from as the website is in English and easy to navigate. However, Soribada’s weight in the digital music scores is minimal at best compared to the other large music portal sites. K-SHCJ have told me that it would be much more effective if we transfer funds to them so that they can purchase music from Melon, Bugs, and Mnet directly since they carry much more weight in the digital music scores. It is up to you whether or not you want to purchase and download music from Soribada.But if you want to legally download Shinhwa’s album, you can do so through Soribada instead of iTunes if you want it to contribute to the digital music scores.
★★ 2. Purchasing Albums ★★
Physical music album sales are a relatively small factor on music show charts, but they are still very important and a way for fans to support Shinhwa that can be done by fans from anywhere.
- Where to purchase from (pending the actual release of the album):
There will probably be many more sites out there where you can purchase their 11th album from, just make sure that they are trustworthy before buying from them, and that they reflect in Korea’s CD sales charts (Hanteo, GaOn, etc.). It is up to you to find out the site with the best deal for you to purchase from, and try to purchase the album while they are promoting if you can.
I just want to add one more thing. As fans, we should be LEGALLY supporting our artists.I understand that not everyone has the access or luxury to spend the money to purchase albums, but if it is possible, please find a way to legally purchase their music if you can.Please don’t post or spread links of illegal downloads of their music and please help flag down those kinds of links so that they aren’t widely propagated around the internet. Please, please legally support them if you can.
★★ 3. Voting Polls ★★
Fans can participate in polls that contribute to music show rankings:
Mnet M Countdown Global Fan voting - You can register an account with a valid email address, facebook, or twitter account. Voting is from Friday 11 AM to Monday 9AM KST. You can vote once per day for each account, and up to 10 times for each IP address. (If you make more than one account, I suggest making an excel spreadsheet of your accounts and passwords for future use).
SBS Inkigayo & MBC Show Champion - Further information and tutorials will be updated pending on whether or not Shinhwa will promote on those shows.
Fans can participate in general polls that may indirectly contribute to music show rankings (pending if Shinhwa is included in the polls):
Melon Chart Battle - Melon account required. Mark the box under Shinhwa’s number and click on the blue box at the end of the row.
GomTV - Mark the box next to Shinhwa’s number and click the last box on the row.
Sports Chosun - Click the yellow box with the smiley face under Shinhwa’s section.
There will probably be other general polls floating around with Shinhwa in it as they promote. Do spread them around when you see them :).
★★ 4. SNS Votes during Music Shows ★★
Mnet M Countdown SMS Voting - If Shinhwa is in the Top 3 for that week of M Countdown, fans can vote for them during the live broadcast by sending a text message from their phones. Voting must be done during the time frame that the show announces to vote. You can only vote ONCE per phone number. To vote, send ’신화’ to +822566 (or +00822566 if that doesn’t work). It must be ’신화’ in Hangul. The text costs 200 won ($0.20) on the Korean website and whatever your telephone provider will charge you for an international text. If you cannot do international texts, try smartphone apps or websites that allow you to text internationally (like Yahoo Messenger, Textfree Web, and Slide SMS).
MBC Show! Music Core SMS Voting - If Shinhwa is up for 1st place on Music Core, fans can vote for them during the live broadcast. Voting must be done during the time frame that the show announces to vote. You can only vote ONCE per hone and you must vote for TWO artists. Separate the group names with a comma like: 신화, 틴탑. To vote send a text to +820505 (or 00820505) with just the two submissions. You must only vote for 2 artists, must include a comma, and only send one vote or your votes will be invalid. You will also probably be charged for this text.
★★ 5. Searching ’신화’★★
Searching 신화 on music portals may help digital scores. Fans are still unsure about this, but it does not hurt to try (and it doesn’t take much time to do so).
So please search for 신화 or (the promoted song name) on each site a few times a day (try to coordinate with others to all search at once so that it can be more effective).
Whenever possible, log in to the site, and use Internet Explorer. Please wait at least 2 minutes before searching again.
Shinhwa conveying the message in the cleverest way ever! Orange Is Shinhwa. And our Bodyguard, aka Leader Eric, will protect Shinhwa, Shinhwa Changjo, & Orange with all his might, heart & soul. SHCJ Forever ♥♥♥♥
SHCJ:Oppa, last time when we did an age survey on the Shinhwa info Twitter the results said most of the fans are in their early and mid 20s. How about giving those in their 20s, including me, some advice as a senior in life?
Eric:Everyone thinks differently, live in different environments, and are fundamentally different, but I want to recommend just one thing that applies in all general situations: “knowledge is power.” I’m not just talking about academic knowledge. You’re afraid of the dark because you don’t know what’s there, but a few minutes later when you learn what is there your fear goes away. If you don’t want to be afraid, don’t go there. Basically, knowledge really is power. Even if you’re in a woman’s body, you can fight and win against Tyson in his heyday. Since you know how he’ll attack, if you just keep avoiding his punches and keep punching him back even Tyson won’t be able to stand it. I believe it’s the same in life. It’s important to first decide on a goal and specify it. Then if you really! want it to come true you should always draw it in your mind and always think about it. That method will unconsciously change your attitude, and it’s the easiest way to heighten the odds it will come true. Next, divide it into segments and specify it. Draw up a schedule willingly and “know” what will result from following it, live your day according to the schedule, and at the end of the day evaluate yourself on how well you followed it. Whether it’s a goal or something you want or anything you have to do, clear and well-formed “knowledge” of it is power. To my juniors in life, it may seem like such a basic thing to say but it is difficult to actually put it into practice. I hope you live a life in which every day you win against yourself and your hardships.
fans only had dial-up internet. It took hours to download anything if fans were able to find files to download. And then the world ended if anyone picked up the phone.
^ this was considered HIGH QUALITY
Youtube was nonexistent until 2005 but wasn’t useful for Kpop until way later.
Subtitles? No such thing.
But this existed.
There was no such thing as online ticketing. Fans had to line up to buy tickets in front of a bank for hours and then beg the banker for the best seats. Or if you were a fan living abroad, you had to wait for the concert to come out on VHS and be exported to wherever you were to watch a concert.
Idols didn’t have SNS, so fans staked out in front of their dorms to catch a glimpse of them on their way home.
Some idols communicated with fans via group emails.
If fans wanted to rewatch a show, fans had to record them on things called VHS, or in the mid-2000’s, burn them on CDs after downloading them for hours. Or if you were a fan who lived abroad, you had to borrow the shows from the video store, located conveniently at your local Korean market.
Fans called a special voice mail from entertainment companies to check on group promotion schedules.
Fans called in to cast their votes for music programs.
You listened to the fanclub presidents even if you didn’t listen to the idol managers.
This was basically the only source for pictures (and individual group pictures sold at convenience/school supply stores). Luckily, scanners became a household item and fans were able to view pictures online, although patience ran dry, waiting for them to all load.
Fans read about idols through the real newspaper before internet was speedy. It obviously required scrapbooking.
There was no pre-ordering anything. You had to stand in line for everything. And if something sold out, you scurried to the next CD store and hoped they were still in stock.
Fan wars didn’t happen online. It happened in person.
Back then, fans wore raincoats and held balloons, which you only got if you were part of the official fanclub.
…and so much more.
While there are many fans who lived through this analog fandom era, only one fanclub managed to stay alive to this day to support its idols.
On March 24, 2013, not only do we celebrate the 15th birthday of Shinhwa, but we also acknowledge the SHCJs starting from 1998, who helped Shinhwa to continue until now so that fans in 2013 can also fall in love with them.
Because Shinhwa exists, SHCJ exists. Because SHCJ exists, Shinhwa exists.
Happiest 15th anniversary to Shinhwa, the longest running idol group in the history of Kpop, and to SHCJ, the longest running idol group fanclub in the history of fandoms.